Manager suggestions - Now with added poll

[WarszaVillan]

I want someone who's miffed to be here, who looks around and thinks what a shambles. Someone for whom the job is not the pinnacle of their career, who is not proud to be managing such a 'famous old club', and who couldn't give a shite about 1982. Someone who just sorts the mess out. The problem is he'll start with a crap squad full of 'stars' who think they're better than they are and no chance to change it anytime soon.

[KRS]

More money, bigger club, more ambitious...and above all else, any football manager worthy of the job title knows and respects what a big job and name Aston Villa is in English football regardless of the current position we're in even if some of our fans and media would like to think otherwise.

[Merses Left Foot]

I've resigned myself that nothing will happen until after the Bristol City game so giving any new manager 41 games to salvage something of this shambles, any points picked up in the next 2 games will be a bonus, but hopefully not detract from the outcome that is required from the Dr.

Oh and Dean Smith or Karanka for me.

[Jimbo]

Are we talking about the likes of Smith and Little because they are 'Villa men'? Maybe we need someone with no connection to the club, but a dispassionate and incisive view of what the club really is, and why it's really failing again and again. I doubt any of us can see its true place in the world, and what it really needs to function properly, through our claret and blue spectacles.

My fears, as ever, are that long-term our problems go beyond formations, selections, tactics, etc. We need a manager that understands all aspects of the game, both the club and the team. It's going to be a tough task finding him.

I really don't think we need to think that deeply. We just need someone who can coach some players to play in an effective system. Benitez didn't need to change the culture of the club at Newcastle to get them promoted. Just need to get them conceding fewer goals and scoring more. By the looks of it Grayson is making a decent fist of doing the same at Sunderland. Bruce's ineptitude shouldn't be blamed on anything other than him.

I hope you're right. But Newcastle weren't in as big a mess as we were / are. Not by a long chalk. We seem to be getting through a lot of managers and players, and two owners, and we keep on failing. There is only one constant in all of this. My fear is that, long term, something more fundamental needs fixing than what's on the pitch. Short term, we might be able to find what's needed to get promotion.   

[ROBBO]

I want someone who's miffed to be here, who looks around and thinks what a shambles. Someone for whom the job is not the pinnacle of their career, who is not proud to be managing such a 'famous old club', and who couldn't give a shite about 1982. Someone who just sorts the mess out. The problem is he'll start with a crap squad full of 'stars' who think they're better than they are and no chance to change it anytime soon.

You mean a modern day David O'Leary.
 

[WarszaVillan]

I want someone who's miffed to be here, who looks around and thinks what a shambles. Someone for whom the job is not the pinnacle of their career, who is not proud to be managing such a 'famous old club', and who couldn't give a shite about 1982. Someone who just sorts the mess out. The problem is he'll start with a crap squad full of 'stars' who think they're better than they are and no chance to change it anytime soon.

You mean a modern day David O'Leary.
 

Got me there. And that's the problem. We've tried every type of manager and it never seems to make a difference. I'm in a small minority I know, but I'd love O'Neill back.

[ASHTONVILLA]

I want someone who's miffed to be here, who looks around and thinks what a shambles. Someone for whom the job is not the pinnacle of their career, who is not proud to be managing such a 'famous old club', and who couldn't give a shite about 1982. Someone who just sorts the mess out. The problem is he'll start with a crap squad full of 'stars' who think they're better than they are and no chance to change it anytime soon.

You mean a modern day David O'Leary.
 

Got me there. And that's the problem. We've tried every type of manager and it never seems to make a difference. I'm in a small minority I know, but I'd love O'Neill back.

I'd take O'Neill back too. Him or Allardyce both have the ego and confidence in themselves that you need to be a success at the Villa.

[Monty]

Small minority indeed! The things we're complaining about on here - not kicking on, despite being high spenders not playing progressive football, fitness issues, inexplicable selections - they're all very very familiar to me. Still, I guess his trademark league position would be enough for the playoffs.

[gpbarr]

Brendan Rodgers is the man. Yes he loves Celtic and all that, but he has unfinished business south of the border, knows the potential here, did a good job at Swansea and (IMO) at 'The Mighty Reds YNWA', has done a fine job up in Scotland, and would I believe come if the money and the conditions were appropriate.

No more dinosaurs - please! Learn from past mistakes for christ sake.
A foreign manager with no experience in UK (at this stage given the precipice this club is on) is too much of a gamble.
I like Smith, Warburton, etc but again, can they manage a truly 'big' club with 'big' expectations.

Rodgers ticks most of the boxes for me. 

[chrisw1]

Houghton wouldn't be an option but Rowett may be as per my previous post...and I guess we'd see if those Villa fan rumours about him were true despite his comments about us last season.

Why would he leave Derby??

Oh that old chestnut...why would any employed manager leave their position to come to Villa? If we don't go headhunting an employed manager and only go for someone out of work then we're going to be looking at a very limited number of disappointing options. We may as well stick with Bruce and accept our fate if that is also the defeatist attitude of the club.

There's a massive difference between poaching a manager in the summer and two weeks into a season.  To get someone now means a manager willing to absolutely shite on his existing club and that said club rolling over and allowing it to happen.  I really can't see many managers being prepared to do this or clubs likely to bend over for us.

[Holte L2]

I want someone who's miffed to be here, who looks around and thinks what a shambles. Someone for whom the job is not the pinnacle of their career, who is not proud to be managing such a 'famous old club', and who couldn't give a shite about 1982. Someone who just sorts the mess out. The problem is he'll start with a crap squad full of 'stars' who think they're better than they are and no chance to change it anytime soon.

So you want David O'Leary back?

[AV5nobs]

Houghton wouldn't be an option but Rowett may be as per my previous post...and I guess we'd see if those Villa fan rumours about him were true despite his comments about us last season.

Why would he leave Derby??

Oh that old chestnut...why would any employed manager leave their position to come to Villa? If we don't go headhunting an employed manager and only go for someone out of work then we're going to be looking at a very limited number of disappointing options. We may as well stick with Bruce and accept our fate if that is also the defeatist attitude of the club.

There's a massive difference between poaching a manager in the summer and two weeks into a season.  To get someone now means a manager willing to absolutely shite on his existing club and that said club rolling over and allowing it to happen.  I really can't see many managers being prepared to do this or clubs likely to bend over for us.

You mean like Brian Little in 1994?

[Sexual Ealing]

Rodgers could walk into a job in the top half of the PL.

Warburton did relatively good job at Sevco, which is a sort of big job. Not sure I'd want him here (rather him than Bruce though, obvs.)

[KRS]

Fair enough.

@ everyone - please stop with your ridiculous suggestions of any manager that is currently employed...that includes Bielsa, Smith, Rodgers, Warburton, etc;

Please only post suggestions of currently unemployed managers.

Could we edit the thread topic to "Unemployed Manager suggestions" please.

[cdbearsfan]

Just because you consider it "ridiculous" to approach a manager currently in employment, doesn't make it so.

Especially as we contacted Wagner and Dyche last time.

Anyone who thinks we couldn't poach the Brentford manager probably needs a trip to the GP to acquire some Prozac.