Manager suggestions - Now with added poll

[Three Spires Villa]

Dyche would have taken the job but wanted a guaranteed 3 year contract regardless of his performance. Wagner would have taken it as long as our promotion clause was not immediate but kicked in this season. Why didn't Bruce get appointed for 3 weeks after the vacancy became available? Despite being available and begging for the chance on that Sky Sunday morning shit? Because 3 others were in the frame and preferred choices. Now he has Wyness in his pocket we are bollocksed.

If that's true re Dyche ( no reason to think it's not by the way) it has made me very, very depressed. Dyche would have been and is exactly what we need

[cheltenhamlion]

Dyche would have taken the job but wanted a guaranteed 3 year contract regardless of his performance. Wagner would have taken it as long as our promotion clause was not immediate but kicked in this season. Why didn't Bruce get appointed for 3 weeks after the vacancy became available? Despite being available and begging for the chance on that Sky Sunday morning shit? Because 3 others were in the frame and preferred choices. Now he has Wyness in his pocket we are bollocksed.

If that's true re Dyche ( no reason to think it's not by the way) it has made me very, very depressed. Dyche would have been and is exactly what we need

It is. At the time I took it as a sign of a more savvy board making achievement a requirement for reward.  Then we got Bruce on a contract we could fuck him off for pennies on come the end of last season and still didn't do it. Pointing that out is why Wyness and I don't get on.

[dave shelley]

Dyche would have taken the job but wanted a guaranteed 3 year contract regardless of his performance. Wagner would have taken it as long as our promotion clause was not immediate but kicked in this season. Why didn't Bruce get appointed for 3 weeks after the vacancy became available? Despite being available and begging for the chance on that Sky Sunday morning shit? Because 3 others were in the frame and preferred choices. Now he has Wyness in his pocket we are bollocksed.

That is so depressing. 

[Three Spires Villa]

Blimey, what a screw up 

[Villa in Denmark]

All that also makes a mockery of the Bruce was no 1 target, farmed the stats analysis out to some out of house experts to verify he was top performer for every metric that Round has been quoted as saying a few times.

[cheltenhamlion]

All that also makes a mockery of the Bruce was no 1 target, farmed the stats analysis out to some out of house experts to verify he was top performer for every metric that Round has been quoted as saying a few times.

Round apparently did "do the numbers" but they backed up Wyness position that Works Spud was the best man for the job.

[paul_e]

I discounted that one because they were shit (they also add nothing to my Wagner and Dyche point).

If it's not a problem I'd like to know who that was because I'm really interested in what sort of shortlist they managed to put together last time.

[SoccerHQ]

Dyche would have taken the job but wanted a guaranteed 3 year contract regardless of his performance. Wagner would have taken it as long as our promotion clause was not immediate but kicked in this season. Why didn't Bruce get appointed for 3 weeks after the vacancy became available? Despite being available and begging for the chance on that Sky Sunday morning shit? Because 3 others were in the frame and preferred choices. Now he has Wyness in his pocket we are bollocksed.

Very interesting Chelts.

RDM however was sacked on Mon 3rd October. Can't remember when SB was appointed but he was in place for the next league game v Wolves so likely it was only 7-9 days between sacking and appointing.

I was ready to criticise the club but then how often have we lamented in the past giving 3 year deals to the likes of Sherwood and Garde, sacking them after 6 months and having to pay out a decent amount in compensation. McLeish got a 3 year deal aswell didn't he.

That said there worryingly seems to be a lack of joined up thinking from the top that engulfed the Lerner era when key decisions have to be made.

Identifiying Wagner and Dyche as managers to take us forward. Good. Being awkward with them in contract negotations when they'd already be debating long and hard whether to leave their present club. Bad.

Getting knocked back and then giving SB any deal he fancied as we were starting to panic. Very bad.

After the start we made last season I never really considered promotion a serious possibility and nor did I think the club was in a fit state to go straight back up given our numerous issues so quite surprised the club still were peddling that to the prospective managers which seemingly turned them off.

[cheltenhamlion]

I discounted that one because they were shit (they also add nothing to my Wagner and Dyche point).

If it's not a problem I'd like to know who that was because I'm really interested in what sort of shortlist they managed to put together last time.

Fuck it. Pearson.

[PeterWithesShin]

RDM was sacked the 3rd and Bruce was appointed the 12th.

[PeterWithesShin]

I discounted that one because they were shit (they also add nothing to my Wagner and Dyche point).

If it's not a problem I'd like to know who that was because I'm really interested in what sort of shortlist they managed to put together last time.

Fuck it. Pearson.

One of the few names that even now could make me glad we have Bruce.

[Marlon From Bearwood]

Dyche would have taken the job but wanted a guaranteed 3 year contract regardless of his performance. Wagner would have taken it as long as our promotion clause was not immediate but kicked in this season. Why didn't Bruce get appointed for 3 weeks after the vacancy became available? Despite being available and begging for the chance on that Sky Sunday morning shit? Because 3 others were in the frame and preferred choices. Now he has Wyness in his pocket we are bollocksed.

If that's true re Dyche ( no reason to think it's not by the way) it has made me very, very depressed. Dyche would have been and is exactly what we need

I'm more gutted about Wagner. He was my first choice. I work with a Huddersfield fan so knew plenty about him. What a ridiculous clause to insist upon promotion within what, 7 months.

It feels like we're still run as incompetently as the Lerner years.

[curiousorange]

I discounted that one because they were shit (they also add nothing to my Wagner and Dyche point).

If it's not a problem I'd like to know who that was because I'm really interested in what sort of shortlist they managed to put together last time.

Fuck it. Pearson.

Two out of three ain't bad, if you're inclined to be charitable. Which I'm not. Jesus wept.

[SoccerHQ]

Dyche would have taken the job but wanted a guaranteed 3 year contract regardless of his performance. Wagner would have taken it as long as our promotion clause was not immediate but kicked in this season. Why didn't Bruce get appointed for 3 weeks after the vacancy became available? Despite being available and begging for the chance on that Sky Sunday morning shit? Because 3 others were in the frame and preferred choices. Now he has Wyness in his pocket we are bollocksed.

If that's true re Dyche ( no reason to think it's not by the way) it has made me very, very depressed. Dyche would have been and is exactly what we need

I'm more gutted about Wagner. He was my first choice. I work with a Huddersfield fan so knew plenty about him. What a ridiculous clause to insist upon promotion within what, 7 months.

It feels like we're still run as incompetently as the Lerner years.

Only thing I'd say on Wagner was his methods would've been difficult to integrate two months into a season. If ever a manager "needed a pre season." (Copyright SoccerHQ on Steve Bruce March-May 2017) it would be him.

Look at the high press game he plays at Huddersfield and also team building things like taking them to a remote Swedish village without mobiles etc and I just chuckle at him coming in and attempting to do that with likes of Bacuna, Gestede, Gabby, Hutton and Richards.

It would've been very much a case of having to wait six months for methods to come into effect so I don't think he'd have secured promotion with us last year.

Dyche would've been a much better fit so disappointed given he seemed open to the idea of leaving Burnley we couldn't get that done but I was also reasonably satisfied with Steve Bruce.

This season is really crucial though. If we don't go up this year next season will be much more difficult as likes of Kodjia and Chester will want to move and the rest will be a year older so would be yet another major squad rebuild on a very reduced budget.

I don't even think we can afford to give SB as much time as RDM as there are 6 games in September so very quickly we'd have played a quarter of the season already by October.

SB really needs to get his finger out and starting winning some games if only to help with our points tally as long term he's a lost cause in his job now.

[paul_e]

I discounted that one because they were shit (they also add nothing to my Wagner and Dyche point).

If it's not a problem I'd like to know who that was because I'm really interested in what sort of shortlist they managed to put together last time.

Fuck it. Pearson.

I thought as much.  What that tells me is that the 4 names which regularly appeared on here the day RDM was sacked are the 4 they spoke to.  Add to that some of the recruitment where people on here talked about Lansbury and Hourihane and then we signed them makes me think that sometimes the club just looks to see what the fans want and goes along with it when it comes to signings, McCormack felt like it last summer as well.