The Much Awaited Return of Promotion Maths

[Risso]

I'd take finishing third and playing whomever finishes sixth, which won't be Fulham.

You realise there's then a final to play though?

[themossman]

Don't think we'll win both upcoming away games.

I can see us reducing the 7 point gap certainly get it down to 4 again or even 1 if we then beat Cardiff at VP.

The trouble is if we somehow get second we need to then keep on winning (unless it's last minute at Millwall of course!)

We saw the problem with that after SHA. Got into second then we stopped winning for the next 2 games and fell 4 points behind again.

Well if you can't see us beating bolton and hull away then it doesn't bode well for the play-offs i'd say. Win both of them and hoping cardiff don't beat Derby away and we could be 5 points off them come the 1st April. I'd be very disappointed and would concede defeat if the points total is more than 7 by then

Hull are starting to pick up now and have Abel Hernandez back so thay have a cutting edge upfront.

Can see us grinding out a 0-1 at Bolton but look at their recent results v top 6 teams, drew with Fulham a few weeks ago, beat Bristol 1-0 and also beat Cardiff before xmas. They are a tough team to beat at home.

4 points from our next two would've been fine in my book if we'd won last night.

well its swings and roundabouts really. I had us down for a draw with wolves so the loss against QPR wasn't such a body blow imo. If cardiff take 6 points from the next 2 games and we don't, i'd agree automatic promotion is over. Actually if they just take more points than us it's over.

The last 2 games have show nicely that we are bizarrely capable of thrashing the best teams in this division and being dominated by rubbish teams. Good luck to all of you estimating points totals with that in mind.

For me it’s as simple as we’re probably in the playoffs now and how we do depends on which villa turns up for those games.

[Brassneck]

I'd take finishing third and playing whomever finishes sixth, which won't be Fulham.

You realise there's then a final to play though?

And also that finishing 4th would avoid Fulham as well.

Personally, if we don't get auto, I'd prefer to finish 4th so that I won't beat myself up as much over dropping the points we did at the start of the season and in December.

[Tony Erdington]

I'd take finishing third and playing whomever finishes sixth, which won't be Fulham.

You realise there's then a final to play though?

And also that finishing 4th would avoid Fulham as well.

Personally, if we don't get auto, I'd prefer to finish 4th so that I won't beat myself up as much over dropping the points we did at the start of the season and in December.

So now we are scared of fuckin Fulham, what a load of bolox,  yes they beat us (a resounding victory I grant you) But fresh (the team that beat wolves) not jaded (the team QPR spanked) We can do any one in this league, come on "if were in the play offs" as opposed to the automatics bring on Fulham, Middlesboro and whoever else they can fit on the pitch. UTV.

[Brassneck]

I'd take finishing third and playing whomever finishes sixth, which won't be Fulham.

You realise there's then a final to play though?

And also that finishing 4th would avoid Fulham as well.

Personally, if we don't get auto, I'd prefer to finish 4th so that I won't beat myself up as much over dropping the points we did at the start of the season and in December.

So now we are scared of fuckin Fulham, what a load of bolox,  yes they beat us (a resounding victory I grant you) But fresh (the team that beat wolves) not jaded (the team QPR spanked) We can do any one in this league, come on "if were in the play offs" as opposed to the automatics bring on Fulham, Middlesboro and whoever else they can fit on the pitch. UTV.

I'm not scared of Fulham. However, I would prefer to avoid them if given the choice. Why would you possibly want to play the best of the 3 teams, especially when it involves an away leg at a ground we traditionally under perform on?

[Richard E]

We beat Fulham fairly comfortably at Villa Park earlier in the season.

[Tony Erdington]

I'd take finishing third and playing whomever finishes sixth, which won't be Fulham.

You realise there's then a final to play though?

And also that finishing 4th would avoid Fulham as well.

Personally, if we don't get auto, I'd prefer to finish 4th so that I won't beat myself up as much over dropping the points we did at the start of the season and in December.

So now we are scared of fuckin Fulham, what a load of bolox,  yes they beat us (a resounding victory I grant you) But fresh (the team that beat wolves) not jaded (the team QPR spanked) We can do any one in this league, come on "if were in the play offs" as opposed to the automatics bring on Fulham, Middlesboro and whoever else they can fit on the pitch. UTV.

I'm not scared of Fulham. However, I would prefer to avoid them if given the choice. Why would you possibly want to play the best of the 3 teams, especially when it involves an away leg at a ground we traditionally under perform on?

exasperated , ok all hail the mighty Fulham, we are not worthy.

[Brassneck]

I'd take finishing third and playing whomever finishes sixth, which won't be Fulham.

You realise there's then a final to play though?

And also that finishing 4th would avoid Fulham as well.

Personally, if we don't get auto, I'd prefer to finish 4th so that I won't beat myself up as much over dropping the points we did at the start of the season and in December.

So now we are scared of fuckin Fulham, what a load of bolox,  yes they beat us (a resounding victory I grant you) But fresh (the team that beat wolves) not jaded (the team QPR spanked) We can do any one in this league, come on "if were in the play offs" as opposed to the automatics bring on Fulham, Middlesboro and whoever else they can fit on the pitch. UTV.

I'm not scared of Fulham. However, I would prefer to avoid them if given the choice. Why would you possibly want to play the best of the 3 teams, especially when it involves an away leg at a ground we traditionally under perform on?

exasperated , ok all hail the mighty Fulham, we are not worthy.

Why are you adding value to such an innocuous statement? Nobody has said "all hail the mighty Fulham"

If we were in an FA Cup semi final draw with Man City, Everton and Hull City to chose from, I would prefer to draw Hull. Likewise, I would prefer to draw the weakest of the 3 teams in the play offs.

That does not mean I "hail" anyone else, it just means I want to give us the best chance of reaching the final.

If you want to go all gung ho and take on all comers then good luck to you. I find that silliness exasperating.

[andyaston]

We beat Fulham fairly comfortably at Villa Park earlier in the season.

Im not so sure, Johnstone made a worldy to keep it 2-1 in the Second half and they got behind us a few times.

[Ads]

We beat Fulham fairly comfortably at Villa Park earlier in the season.

What season we talking about here? With maybe one or two exceptions, it could be any time they've visited Villa Park.

They were worse than Rotherham in Bruce's first season.

[Tony Erdington]

I'd take finishing third and playing whomever finishes sixth, which won't be Fulham.

You realise there's then a final to play though?

And also that finishing 4th would avoid Fulham as well.

Personally, if we don't get auto, I'd prefer to finish 4th so that I won't beat myself up as much over dropping the points we did at the start of the season and in December.

So now we are scared of fuckin Fulham, what a load of bolox,  yes they beat us (a resounding victory I grant you) But fresh (the team that beat wolves) not jaded (the team QPR spanked) We can do any one in this league, come on "if were in the play offs" as opposed to the automatics bring on Fulham, Middlesboro and whoever else they can fit on the pitch. UTV.

I'm not scared of Fulham. However, I would prefer to avoid them if given the choice. Why would you possibly want to play the best of the 3 teams, especially when it involves an away leg at a ground we traditionally under perform on?

exasperated , ok all hail the mighty Fulham, we are not worthy.

Why are you adding value to such an innocuous statement? Nobody has said "all hail the mighty Fulham"

If we were in an FA Cup semi final draw with Man City, Everton and Hull City to chose from, I would prefer to draw Hull. Likewise, I would prefer to draw the weakest of the 3 teams in the play offs.

That does not mean I "hail" anyone else, it just means I want to give us the best chance of reaching the final.

If you want to go all gung ho and take on all comers then good luck to you. I find that silliness exasperating.

Brassneck I appreciate , this means a lot to you, that's why you feel you have to exert your im not saying stance, me myself as a Villa fan think to win the play offs we will have to beat 2 of 3 teams, now the chances are Fulham may well be one of them teams, and we will have to beat them to get up. to state "avoid Fulham" (to me any way implies some trepidation of the contest)

Now when we played Arsenal in the cup final, I thought we had a chance (hindsight and all that) we were embarrassed somehow I don't see Fulham 2018 as Arsenal 2015.

[SoccerHQ]

I'd take finishing third and playing whomever finishes sixth, which won't be Fulham.

You realise there's then a final to play though?

Maybe gamble that Boro would knock them out before a final like Reading did last season.

[Brassneck]

I'd take finishing third and playing whomever finishes sixth, which won't be Fulham.

You realise there's then a final to play though?

And also that finishing 4th would avoid Fulham as well.

Personally, if we don't get auto, I'd prefer to finish 4th so that I won't beat myself up as much over dropping the points we did at the start of the season and in December.

So now we are scared of fuckin Fulham, what a load of bolox,  yes they beat us (a resounding victory I grant you) But fresh (the team that beat wolves) not jaded (the team QPR spanked) We can do any one in this league, come on "if were in the play offs" as opposed to the automatics bring on Fulham, Middlesboro and whoever else they can fit on the pitch. UTV.

I'm not scared of Fulham. However, I would prefer to avoid them if given the choice. Why would you possibly want to play the best of the 3 teams, especially when it involves an away leg at a ground we traditionally under perform on?

exasperated , ok all hail the mighty Fulham, we are not worthy.

Why are you adding value to such an innocuous statement? Nobody has said "all hail the mighty Fulham"

If we were in an FA Cup semi final draw with Man City, Everton and Hull City to chose from, I would prefer to draw Hull. Likewise, I would prefer to draw the weakest of the 3 teams in the play offs.

That does not mean I "hail" anyone else, it just means I want to give us the best chance of reaching the final.

If you want to go all gung ho and take on all comers then good luck to you. I find that silliness exasperating.

Brassneck I appreciate , this means a lot to you, that's why you feel you have to exert your im not saying stance, me myself as a Villa fan think to win the play offs we will have to beat 2 of 3 teams, now the chances are Fulham may well be one of them teams, and we will have to beat them to get up. to state "avoid Fulham" (to me any way implies some trepidation of the contest)

Now when we played Arsenal in the cup final, I thought we had a chance (hindsight and all that) we were embarrassed somehow I don't see Fulham 2018 as Arsenal 2015.

Mate - I have just spent the past 24 hours arguing that we can make autos. Surely you comprehend that this would mean that I am not in awe of Fulham? I'm not even thinking of the play offs at this stage.

I too thought we "could" beat Arsenal. However, I would have been more confident if we were playing Accrington Stanley.

Now please go and annoy someone else.

[Marlon From Bearwood]

I think Brassneck is right. I too would rather avoid Fulham in the Semi as they may not then make the final, just like last season despite them being the form team going into the play offs.

In the other 2015 FA Cup Semi final, Arsenal only scraped past Reading. If Reading had won that then we'd have won the FA Cup.

[Tony Erdington]

I'd take finishing third and playing whomever finishes sixth, which won't be Fulham.

You realise there's then a final to play though?

And also that finishing 4th would avoid Fulham as well.

Personally, if we don't get auto, I'd prefer to finish 4th so that I won't beat myself up as much over dropping the points we did at the start of the season and in December.

So now we are scared of fuckin Fulham, what a load of bolox,  yes they beat us (a resounding victory I grant you) But fresh (the team that beat wolves) not jaded (the team QPR spanked) We can do any one in this league, come on "if were in the play offs" as opposed to the automatics bring on Fulham, Middlesboro and whoever else they can fit on the pitch. UTV.

I'm not scared of Fulham. However, I would prefer to avoid them if given the choice. Why would you possibly want to play the best of the 3 teams, especially when it involves an away leg at a ground we traditionally under perform on?

exasperated , ok all hail the mighty Fulham, we are not worthy.

Why are you adding value to such an innocuous statement? Nobody has said "all hail the mighty Fulham"

If we were in an FA Cup semi final draw with Man City, Everton and Hull City to chose from, I would prefer to draw Hull. Likewise, I would prefer to draw the weakest of the 3 teams in the play offs.

That does not mean I "hail" anyone else, it just means I want to give us the best chance of reaching the final.

If you want to go all gung ho and take on all comers then good luck to you. I find that silliness exasperating.

Brassneck I appreciate , this means a lot to you, that's why you feel you have to exert your im not saying stance, me myself as a Villa fan think to win the play offs we will have to beat 2 of 3 teams, now the chances are Fulham may well be one of them teams, and we will have to beat them to get up. to state "avoid Fulham" (to me any way implies some trepidation of the contest)

Now when we played Arsenal in the cup final, I thought we had a chance (hindsight and all that) we were embarrassed somehow I don't see Fulham 2018 as Arsenal 2015.

Mate - I have just spent the past 24 hours arguing that we can make autos. Surely you comprehend that this would mean that I am not in awe of Fulham? I'm not even thinking of the play offs at this stage.

I too thought we "could" beat Arsenal. However, I would have been more confident if we were playing Accrington Stanley.

Now please go and annoy someone else.

I'm sorry you see it as annoying, but I just have a different evaluation of Fulham than you. btw we couldn't of played Accrington in the 2015 final because they didn't make the semi's lol. enjoy your day.