The Much Awaited Return of Promotion Maths

[sickbeggar]

Winning at home and picking up draws away at the better teams is very good form.

Isn't that what we have been doing apart from Cardiff and Wolves?

yes it is. Still it's not the standard we need at the moment. Burnley have our sort of form at the moment but it's not going to win them the league or get into Europe

[Clampy]

Winning at home and picking up draws away at the better teams is very good form.

Isn't that what we have been doing apart from Cardiff and Wolves?

yes it is. Still it's not the standard we need at the moment. Burnley have our sort of form at the moment but it's not going to win them the league or get into Europe

But you said it was very good form. So it's not? Oh and comparing Burnley with all those teams above them is a bit silly really.

[sickbeggar]

Winning at home and picking up draws away at the better teams is very good form.

Isn't that what we have been doing apart from Cardiff and Wolves?

yes it is. Still it's not the standard we need at the moment. Burnley have our sort of form at the moment but it's not going to win them the league or get into Europe

But you said it was very good form. So it's not? Oh and comparing Burnley with all those teams above them is a bit silly really.

It is, just not the form we need unless our competition gets worse or we get better.  Simple maths really. If you're getting 10 points every 5 games and the opposition are getting 12 or 15 you are not gonna catch them.

[Clampy]

Winning at home and picking up draws away at the better teams is very good form.

Isn't that what we have been doing apart from Cardiff and Wolves?

yes it is. Still it's not the standard we need at the moment. Burnley have our sort of form at the moment but it's not going to win them the league or get into Europe

But you said it was very good form. So it's not? Oh and comparing Burnley with all those teams above them is a bit silly really.

It is, just not the form we need unless our competition gets worse or we get better.  Simple maths really. If you're getting 10 points every 5 games and the opposition are getting 12 or 15 you are not gonna catch them.

But if you're getting 10 points from 12 which we have done in the last 4 games, isn't that good as well?

[sickbeggar]

Winning at home and picking up draws away at the better teams is very good form.

Isn't that what we have been doing apart from Cardiff and Wolves?

yes it is. Still it's not the standard we need at the moment. Burnley have our sort of form at the moment but it's not going to win them the league or get into Europe

But you said it was very good form. So it's not? Oh and comparing Burnley with all those teams above them is a bit silly really.

It is, just not the form we need unless our competition gets worse or we get better.  Simple maths really. If you're getting 10 points every 5 games and the opposition are getting 12 or 15 you are not gonna catch them.

But if you're getting 10 points from 12 which we have done in the last 4 games, isn't that good as well?

yes it is, and i never said it wasn't to be fair

[Clampy]

Winning at home and picking up draws away at the better teams is very good form.

Isn't that what we have been doing apart from Cardiff and Wolves?

yes it is. Still it's not the standard we need at the moment. Burnley have our sort of form at the moment but it's not going to win them the league or get into Europe

But you said it was very good form. So it's not? Oh and comparing Burnley with all those teams above them is a bit silly really.

It is, just not the form we need unless our competition gets worse or we get better.  Simple maths really. If you're getting 10 points every 5 games and the opposition are getting 12 or 15 you are not gonna catch them.

But if you're getting 10 points from 12 which we have done in the last 4 games, isn't that good as well?

yes it is, and i never said it wasn't to be fair

Well you have, you said it 'wasn't the standard' where let's be honest, 10 points out of 12 whoever you are is very good.

[sickbeggar]

I actually state it's very good form in my original post but as i said Burnley's form is very good as well, but if the opposition's form is excellent then it remains not good enough currently. I really don't know why you can't see this other than you just want a pedantic argument because you're bored.

[Clampy]

I actually state it's very good form in my original post but as i said Burnley's form is very good as well, but if the opposition's form is excellent then it remains not good enough currently. I really don't know why you can't see this other than you just want a pedantic argument because you're bored.

But we can only do what we can do. If the teams above us win, then what can we do other than get results ourselves? I'm not being pedantic and suggesting a fellow fan is bored because they're disagreeing with you is quite amusing.

[class-of-82]

my wifes watching x factor so I am bored can I disagree to

[sickbeggar]

I actually state it's very good form in my original post but as i said Burnley's form is very good as well, but if the opposition's form is excellent then it remains not good enough currently. I really don't know why you can't see this other than you just want a pedantic argument because you're bored.

But we can only do what we can do. If the teams above us win, then what can we do other than get results ourselves? I'm not being pedantic and suggesting a fellow fan is bored because they're disagreeing with you is quite amusing.

well  now you've finally come to your point, i'll answer. In the leeds game, maybe say a more adventurous outlook from Bruce from the beginning would have helped? There was no doubt as soon as we were forced to chase the game after being behind we were easily the better side, so worrying less about the opposition and more about what we can do attacking wise would maybe make up those points and  and change draws to wins?

[Villa75]

10 points from 12 is good form but, go back another match, and it's actually 10 from 15. Still not bad, but doesn't have us making a dent on the deficit above.

That's part of the problem. We're playing catch up on teams who are, by recent form, doing even better than we are. Go back 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9 matches and the two above have outperformed us.

Clampy is saying that we are doing 'well', and we are. We just need to do better than the teams above us, and we're not.

Perhaps Cardiff or Wolves will implode, we can carry on doing what we're doing, and no one close behind starts to outperform us. We'll have to live in hope, I suppose.

[Clampy]

I actually state it's very good form in my original post but as i said Burnley's form is very good as well, but if the opposition's form is excellent then it remains not good enough currently. I really don't know why you can't see this other than you just want a pedantic argument because you're bored.

But we can only do what we can do. If the teams above us win, then what can we do other than get results ourselves? I'm not being pedantic and suggesting a fellow fan is bored because they're disagreeing with you is quite amusing.

well  now you've finally come to your point, i'll answer. In the leeds game, maybe say a more adventurous outlook from Bruce from the beginning would have helped? There was no doubt as soon as we were forced to chase the game after being behind we were easily the better side, so worrying less about the opposition and more about what we can do attacking wise would maybe make up those points and  and change draws to wins?

9 times out of 10, the home side always start the best. It's then up to the away side the quieten the home crowd down. We got a point which I think the majority of fans would have taken before the game, I know would have.

[sickbeggar]

yeah and Bruce. He came for the draw

[Clampy]

yeah and Bruce. He came for the draw

And there we have it. You make it so obvious.

[sickbeggar]

Make what obvious? that is his style -safety first. i think many people would view Mourinho's defensive tactics as sensible against equivalent teams ability-wise away as valid. The fact that they're off the pace by 8 points and relied on a world class performance from their 'keeper to win on saturday doesn't really say they are going to catch Man City.