John Terry - Gone

[AV82EC]

I wouldn't. I wanted him out at the end of the second season.

His second season was his best. He took us from 12th (his first season) to 6th and hadn't really spent that dramatically in the summer before. He actually did really well that season. It started to go south towards the end of the third season when the points made in previous posts about lack of plan B, tactics working away but not at home, playing people out of position and predictable (bad) substitutions started to take their toll. He rallied with some changes in personnel for season 4 but by the end he'd well and truly run out of ideas. Lerner putting the brakes on more changes meant he was only going to go backwards with us so he walked. I think it showed he hadn't got what it took to manage a team near the very top.

Yep I think it was best summarised by someone saying after he stomped off that none of the 5 clubs above us would have employed him and in English football he'd hit his glass ceiling with his philosophy. for the money spent no cups and no CL qualification was a massive failure however you try and dress it up.

[peter w]

I wouldn't. I wanted him out at the end of the second season.

His second season was his best. He took us from 12th (his first season) to 6th and hadn't really spent that dramatically in the summer before. He actually did really well that season. It started to go south towards the end of the third season when the points made in previous posts about lack of plan B, tactics working away but not at home, playing people out of position and predictable (bad) substitutions started to take their toll. He rallied with some changes in personnel for season 4 but by the end he'd well and truly run out of ideas. Lerner putting the brakes on more changes meant he was only going to go backwards with us so he walked. I think it showed he hadn't got what it took to manage a team near the very top.

Sorry I meant the third season. i forgot about the first season - I wanted him gone after a second 6th finish.

[Nelly]

The clubs that we were rivalling for the last Champions League spot under MoN have cemented themselves as contenders. With a better philosophy I think we could have done the same, considering we were outspending them. We had good days then but there was no attempt to build something lasting. We ran out of ideas and then steam and then just gave up.

[KevinGage]

Aye. 

We had a two year jump on Man Citeh, for example.  But we wasted it signing the likes of Marlon Harewood. 

In isolation -and as back up to Carew and Agbonlahor- he wasn't a terrible signing. But it was indicative of a side that never truly believed it belonged near the top of the pile.

[Matt Collins]

The Man City thing was unfortunate - we were never going to be able to compete

But Spurs . . .

[murfee]

WTF has all this got to do with John Terry?

[Toronto Villa]

Can we not turn this into another MON thread. It's enough that this is about John Terry.

[AV5nobs]

It's become the none JT thread, I think it should get back to being about JT.

[WarszaVillan]

It would be fitting of such a signing that this thread evolved into being about anything except Terry.

[murfee]

It would be fitting of such a signing that this thread evolved into being about anything except Terry.

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[Chris Jameson]

I like the idea of a thread about him turning into a discussion about anything but him.

What music do people think should be played as the team walks out?
Is Cat Deeley a Villa fan?
Why didn't Barry take the penalty?
Where's Ryu?

[Chinchilla Bathhouse]

It's become the none JT thread, I think it should get back to being about JT.

What's John Thaw got to do with it? He died years ago!

[AV5nobs]

His memory being revived. God bless JT indeed.

[AV5nobs]

It would be fitting of such a signing that this thread evolved into being about anything except Terry.

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[murfee]

How many people on here who proffess to hate John Terry have actually met him?