John Terry - Gone

[ColinMac]

He might be a massive racist, but he's our massive racist now.

So that's alright then ?

It was only a joke.

yeh right ...racism is hilarious

I hear you're a racist now Villa.

I have been going to Villa Park for over 30 years and can honestly only ever recall being in earshot of two racist incidents involving our fans.  The first was when one of our own supporters shouted "come on you black bastard" at Dion Dublin and the other was when.someone went into a rant at Swansea fans and included "f*cking pakis and blacks " in it for some reason.  Both times they were individuals who came out with it and both times our own fans around them confronted them about it.   The latter situation turned a bit nasty and the club got involved after some complaints. 

So to suggest there is a large extreme right wing element is a little wide if the mark in my experience.

I don't know how old you are Tom but, I can assure you that in my time at the Villa racism was at times particularly nasty.  A couple of examples:

'N****r,N****r, lick my boots'.

'We believe in de Villa, whoa yea'.  Sung whilst raising the arms and shaking the hands a la minstrel style.

As for the bananas, well we won't bother going there.

No one around in those days to put a stop to it.  For someone like me and to be fair, many other people, it was disgusting, shameful and just so unnecessary.

I didn't want John Terry at the club and it's a waste of energy banging on about it but, if Terry gives credence to even thinking like that even though it was in the past, it leaves a sour taste in my mouth.

Also have memories of Justin Fashanu getting monkey chants at Villa Park at the start of the 80-81 season when he played for Norwich.

[class-of-82]

See my earlier post about the 10,00 villa fans at west brom when Regis Batson and Cunningham got pelted wth bananas and everyone in hysterics but none will own up being there and laughng

[eamonn]

Incidentially, there's a new film out about the tragic life of Justin Fashanu, documentary in the main - though it would make a worthwhile full biopic.

[PeterWithesShin]

See my earlier post about the 10,00 villa fans at west brom when Regis Batson and Cunningham got pelted wth bananas and everyone in hysterics but none will own up being there and laughng

Well for starters it won't have been all of them that were doing it, unless you were joining in there's one that wasn't. And secondly this isn't the site where folks like that tend to last long.

[class-of-82]

But. Bet it's the site where quite a few people had the Ron Atkinson book for Xmas

[class-of-82]

Remind me again why he lost his job on tv

[PeterWithesShin]

So were you joining in or not?

You were asking about something entirely different. And how am I meant to know what people got for Xmas? I'm pointing out what I do know that people with racist and bigoted views rarely last long on here.

[Damo70]

Incidentially, there's a new film out about the tragic life of Justin Fashanu, documentary in the main - though it would make a worthwhile full biopic.

Isn't it his neice, John Fashanu's daughter who is behind it?

[class-of-82]

No I didn't throw bananas which happened to be a mob down by the corner flag I'm not a racist or a bigot
But did you get the Ron Atkinson book for Xmas ??
Did anyone on here ever laugh at the Alf garnett sitcom

[Matt Collins]

I went to Leicester away in about 1995 and a very large proportion of the away fans were singing "you're the pride of Pakistan"

Not as bad as throwing bananas but pretty shameful

[PeterWithesShin]

So we're agreed then, not everyone joined in, in fact it was probably a small minority of twats as most would have thought the same as you.

No. I didn't. Although even if I had read a book about him i'm not sure it proves anything. Unless you don't think we should read about anyone with unpleasant views?

[Clampy]

No I didn't throw bananas which happened to be a mob down by the corner flag I'm not a racist or a bigot
But did you get the Ron Atkinson book for Xmas ??
Did anyone on here ever laugh at the Alf garnett sitcom

I've got Big Ron's book. Now what's your point?

[PeterWithesShin]

I have no zero doubt there have been some right racist wankers in our support in the past, and may well still be. I've said before about how back in the 70s a good friend of mine got the shit kicked out of him in the Holte for being Asian. He wrote about it in an old issue of H&V.

[paul_e]

No I didn't throw bananas which happened to be a mob down by the corner flag I'm not a racist or a bigot
But did you get the Ron Atkinson book for Xmas ??
Did anyone on here ever laugh at the Alf garnett sitcom

Firstly, I've fixed the last line.


Moving on, surely this discussion, and the apologist one yesterday and a few others on this thread, show that Whatever else Terry brings he does, by his previous actions, divide opinion and create arguments, I just hope those disagreements run their course soon and don't come back if he has a bad run, it makes for a fairly unpleasant feel to the forum.

[class-of-82]

Paul_e
Thanks for fixing the last line
PWS
Sorry if this got a bit heated but I am sick and tired of the stick jt is getting on here, I am proud he chose the club I Love over the stripey shite, Stoke Bournemouth  and scum etc and be honest who else would you want in your box when your 1-0 up and need a win for automatic promotion and your getting bombarded.
 
Also be honest guys Wayne bridges ex missus you would of wouldn't you