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Offline Risso

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Re: Bruce out?
« Reply #17700 on: August 25, 2018, 05:49:38 PM »
Two points from two games against the bottom two teams is dire. He really should have gone before the season started.

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Re: Bruce out?
« Reply #17701 on: August 25, 2018, 05:49:54 PM »
I must admit I find him a bit of an enigma.  Sometimes we look like our old selves (very old selves as the we were crap long before he arrived) by giving the best in the league a beating, other times we just can't seem to even do the basics.  He claims his style has been down to the players he has had available, and I was inclined to believe him after the Brentford game now he has a bit more pace, but quite honestly I really don't think he gets the best out of what he has.  Just look at Bielsa, I don't recall Leeds changing too many players but he is getting a tune out of them.

I am prepared to give him one last chance assuming he gets 2 or 3 more in to suit what he wants to do as I do have a bit of sympathy in that he has a very short window in which to build a side again, but I really think he has got to change fast or he will be out. 

Didn't see the game today but it sounded like we came out of the blocks pretty quickly again and then faded, so it could be the players are just not doing what he asking them to do

In a nutshell Biesla assessed what he had and coached them how to play , Bruce just goes to the cheque book be it buys or loans and just adds and adds hoping to find something that works .I can't imagine that any team has changed as many players as us in the time he has been here ,he is just like Redknapp in that regard .Even look at his recent comments when asked about getting in players his comment was he was still hoping to work his magic to get more players in ..i'd rather see some magic on the bloody training ground that then is evident in a match !!!!

Also I don't care how good the wingers are in the modern game you need wide players supplemented with fbs who can both attack and defend .AT is not a RB and Hutton slowing down play to come back inside is slowing down attacks on the left side


Offline mcgrath_85

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Re: Bruce out?
« Reply #17702 on: August 25, 2018, 05:50:58 PM »
This won’t stop until he’s gone.
Nice chap but extremely limited football manager. How he is still in charge after the last 2 seasons is ridiculous. The luckiest manager in football.

Offline GarTomas

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Re: Bruce out?
« Reply #17703 on: August 25, 2018, 05:52:03 PM »
The Sky report on the game says “before the game Villa manager Steve Bruce was in an animated conversation on the pitch with the clubs new owners “.  Wonder what that wasn’t about?

Their programme notes mention that progress needs to be sustainable. That does not fit with the Bruce mound of signing 6/7/8 players a year, putting their names in a hat and picking a side until something clicks.

Offline PeterWithesShin

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Re: Bruce out?
« Reply #17704 on: August 25, 2018, 05:52:44 PM »
Decent managers that have a plan tend to buy players that they think will fit in and compliment the system the team plays, I often get the feeling Bruce brings players in that he thinks are good, and then tries to work out what to do with them.

Offline mr underhill

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Re: Bruce out?
« Reply #17705 on: August 25, 2018, 05:53:23 PM »
no owner is going to sack a guy after four games . However, the more the draws go on, the more we are off the pace and that won't be tolerated beyond mid October.

Offline Risso

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Re: Bruce out?
« Reply #17706 on: August 25, 2018, 05:54:28 PM »
no owner is going to sack a guy after four games . However, the more the draws go on, the more we are off the pace and that won't be tolerated beyond mid October.

Tell that to Cheltenham Town.

Offline GarTomas

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Re: Bruce out?
« Reply #17707 on: August 25, 2018, 05:55:16 PM »
Decent managers that have a plan tend to buy players that they think will fit in and compliment the system the team plays, I often get the feeling Bruce brings players in that he thinks are good, and then tries to work out what to do with them.

PWS you’ve managed to articulate what I’ve been unable to very well.  Really gets to the heart of the issue and explains the scatter gun signing approach.

Offline Monty

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Re: Bruce out?
« Reply #17708 on: August 25, 2018, 05:55:44 PM »
This won’t stop until he’s gone.
Nice chap but extremely limited football manager. How he is still in charge after the last 2 seasons is ridiculous. The luckiest manager in football.

It's really not ridiculous that he's still in charge. I just don't think he'll ever be good enough to take us up.

Offline Fred Crump

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Re: Bruce out?
« Reply #17709 on: August 25, 2018, 06:04:16 PM »
no owner is going to sack a guy after four games . However, the more the draws go on, the more we are off the pace and that won't be tolerated beyond mid October.

Tell that to Cheltenham Town.
Or Nick Daws/ Scunthorpe

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Re: Bruce out?
« Reply #17710 on: August 25, 2018, 06:17:52 PM »
Well at least we're still unbeaten this season...

Offline jwarry

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Re: Bruce out?
« Reply #17711 on: August 25, 2018, 06:21:25 PM »
He looked gutted in that aftermatch interview. He was definitely more chipper after the Brentford game. But yes the excuses came out ie 7 games in 21 days blah blah blah

Offline QuintonVilla

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Re: Bruce out?
« Reply #17712 on: August 25, 2018, 06:23:06 PM »
7 games in 21 days and the only team who are even remotely decent are Brentford. The rest are shite and we've struggled.

We're going to find ourselves 7-10 points off the top by October and we'll be playing catch up again like last season.

Offline Damo70

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Re: Bruce out?
« Reply #17713 on: August 25, 2018, 06:24:04 PM »
Decent managers that have a plan tend to buy players that they think will fit in and compliment the system the team plays, I often get the feeling Bruce brings players in that he thinks are good, and then tries to work out what to do with them.

It is hard to disagree with that assessment. MON fell into that trap a few times too. I think we can forgive Ron Saunders for playing Swain and Evans as defenders however.

Offline mr underhill

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Re: Bruce out?
« Reply #17714 on: August 25, 2018, 06:27:21 PM »
Brentford were toothless without that cheating midget who was rightly banned for three games - not that it benefits us.

 


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