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Malandro

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Re: Bruce staying
« Reply #17040 on: August 03, 2018, 08:38:09 PM »
It speaks volumes about his mentality, complacency, lack of planning and strategy.
For him thereabouts is good enough and the fact that he continues in a job paying beyond his worth and ability is how it’s turned out.

He'll be gone by October. The football, clichés and excuses will end fist face.


Not if we are in the top 6 or T or TA

I'd be surprised if we have a good start. Not because of last year, more his new formation.


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Re: Bruce staying
« Reply #17041 on: August 03, 2018, 08:40:41 PM »
It speaks volumes about his mentality, complacency, lack of planning and strategy.
For him thereabouts is good enough and the fact that he continues in a job paying beyond his worth and ability is how it’s turned out.

He'll be gone by October. The football, clichés and excuses will end fist face.


Not if we are in the top 6 or T or TA

I'd be surprised if we have a good start. Not because of last year, more his new formation.



your forgetting how poor this league is though

Malandro

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Re: Bruce staying
« Reply #17042 on: August 03, 2018, 08:45:09 PM »
It speaks volumes about his mentality, complacency, lack of planning and strategy.
For him thereabouts is good enough and the fact that he continues in a job paying beyond his worth and ability is how it’s turned out.

He'll be gone by October. The football, clichés and excuses will end fist face.


Not if we are in the top 6 or T or TA

I'd be surprised if we have a good start. Not because of last year, more his new formation.



your forgetting how poor this league is though

It's a brutal league. We'll be there or thereabouts.

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Re: Bruce staying
« Reply #17043 on: August 03, 2018, 08:49:35 PM »
I'm looking forward to it again personally. We need a few more players in obviously but let's see how it goes.

Offline ajmant

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Re: Bruce staying
« Reply #17044 on: August 03, 2018, 09:19:13 PM »
Bruce out. We’ve just dropped to second in the
Table.

Offline SoccerHQ

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Re: Bruce staying
« Reply #17045 on: August 03, 2018, 10:11:06 PM »
Ironically I do think we'll be there or thereabouts for the play offs, 6th one week, 8th the next and so on. How long that keeps SB in the league remains to be seen.

We do have a kind start to the season as Hull, Wigan, Ipswich, Blackburn, Reading and Rotherham all likely to be bottom half teams and we play them all in the first 10 games so I would be massively disappointment if we're below 10th after those fixtures and so would the owners I suspect.

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Re: Bruce staying
« Reply #17046 on: August 03, 2018, 10:12:32 PM »
Bruce out. We’ve just dropped to second in the
Table.

Point behind with a game in hand. It's in our own hands. What could go wrong?

Edit: Shit, just seen they got a late winner. Sack him NOW
« Last Edit: August 03, 2018, 10:14:39 PM by LeeB »

Offline GarTomas

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Re: Bruce staying
« Reply #17047 on: August 04, 2018, 09:15:01 AM »
It speaks volumes about his mentality, complacency, lack of planning and strategy.
For him thereabouts is good enough and the fact that he continues in a job paying beyond his worth and ability is how it’s turned out.

He'll be gone by October. The football, clichés and excuses will end fist face.


Not if we are in the top 6 or T or TA

I'd be surprised if we have a good start. Not because of last year, more his new formation.



your forgetting how poor this league is though

It's a brutal league. We'll be there or thereabouts.

That’s the Championship

Malandro

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Re: Bruce staying
« Reply #17048 on: August 04, 2018, 09:25:11 AM »
It speaks volumes about his mentality, complacency, lack of planning and strategy.
For him thereabouts is good enough and the fact that he continues in a job paying beyond his worth and ability is how it’s turned out.

He'll be gone by October. The football, clichés and excuses will end fist face.


Not if we are in the top 6 or T or TA

I'd be surprised if we have a good start. Not because of last year, more his new formation.



your forgetting how poor this league is though

It's a brutal league. We'll be there or thereabouts.

That’s the Championship

"A lot of teams have spent big money"

Like you did, fist face.

Offline mr underhill

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Re: Bruce staying
« Reply #17049 on: August 04, 2018, 09:30:26 AM »
wasn't the real suicidal spending done by RDM though?

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Re: Bruce staying
« Reply #17050 on: August 04, 2018, 09:38:45 AM »
wasn't the real suicidal spending done by RDM though?

Mostly yes, which is sometimes forgotten.

Offline GarTomas

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Re: Bruce staying
« Reply #17051 on: August 04, 2018, 09:45:24 AM »
wasn't the real suicidal spending done by RDM though?

Struggling to remember all the names but RDM seemed 50/50 with his strikers with Kodjia largely successful and McCormack not. Kodjia injury we will see this year how he gets on. McCormack is dead to Bruce so unsure whether another coach would of got him contributing

Adomah has been solid as had Jedinak and they were signings very much viewed as ones to get us promoted and then sell back to the Championship for me as their value was never going to increase other than to keep pace with the market.

Elphick and Gollini were meh but I didn’t think Gollini was that horrible and that when Johnstone initially joined wasn’t much of an upgrade. Chester was good business.

A lot of the dead wood in the squad are players Bruce himself sighed which is a major gripe of mine with him. His first window he bought Bjarnsson, Lansbury and Hourihane. This throw players and see what sticks approach isn’t sustainable at all now not just for Villa but other clubs now transfer fees have escalated so much coupled with FFP.

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Re: Bruce staying
« Reply #17052 on: August 04, 2018, 09:54:26 AM »
McCormack, Tishbola and Gollini came to over £20m. In fairness, his other signings (apart from Elphick and RDL, so far anyway) have worked out reasonably well.

Offline dekko

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Re: Bruce staying
« Reply #17053 on: August 04, 2018, 09:56:56 AM »
wasn't the real suicidal spending done by RDM though?

Struggling to remember all the names but RDM seemed 50/50 with his strikers with Kodjia largely successful and McCormack not. Kodjia injury we will see this year how he gets on. McCormack is dead to Bruce so unsure whether another coach would of got him contributing

Adomah has been solid as had Jedinak and they were signings very much viewed as ones to get us promoted and then sell back to the Championship for me as their value was never going to increase other than to keep pace with the market.

Elphick and Gollini were meh but I didn’t think Gollini was that horrible and that when Johnstone initially joined wasn’t much of an upgrade. Chester was good business.

A lot of the dead wood in the squad are players Bruce himself sighed which is a major gripe of mine with him. His first window he bought Bjarnsson, Lansbury and Hourihane. This throw players and see what sticks approach isn’t sustainable at all now not just for Villa but other clubs now transfer fees have escalated so much coupled with FFP.

I'd add Tshibola to the RDM failures column.

Bruce also brought in Terry, and on the whole the loanees performed very well.  I'd say Bruce has done well on the 'bringing decent players into the club' metric.  Getting the most out of those players and putting us in a position where we'd be able to keep them though?  Not so much.

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Re: Bruce staying
« Reply #17054 on: August 04, 2018, 10:32:36 AM »
If you go through the permanent signings they made:

RDM
Keep: De Laet, Chester, Jedi, Adomah and Kodjia - Not bad for 1 window, I'll admit we've not seen much of RDL but, for me, he's the best full back in the club.
Sell: Gollini, McCormack, Elphick, Tish - Gollini never settled, fat Ross was always one that worried me and Tish was a gamble on him improving and it didn't work out, Tommy just isn't good enough.

Bruce
Keep: Hourihane, Bree, Elmo, Terry - Adding Terry is a bit odd bu he was a good signing, I'm giving Bree a bit of a free pass because of his age.
Sell: Taylor, Whelan, Lansbury, Bjarnason, Hogan - Taylor is fucking shit, Whelan is past it, Lansbury is a showpony, Bjarnason is ok but just doesn't fit (for me) and Hogan is the biggest waste of money of the lot.

More importantly RDM signed players who are still the backbone of the team 2 years later.

 


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