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Online PaulWinch again

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Re: Bruce staying
« Reply #16920 on: July 30, 2018, 01:35:23 PM »
Sorry Footy, but based on current evidence it makes zero sense to be so anti Henry getting the job and at the same time promote the virtues of Frank Lampard.

Lampard might end up being brilliant, but as it stands he is less experienced than Henry.

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Re: Bruce staying
« Reply #16921 on: July 30, 2018, 01:37:02 PM »

As a player and pundit he's very good . Plus he has experience of being coached well by great managers in the game.


The same goes for Henry.  Not that I would want him necessarily, but it's very strange to be apoplectic over appointing Henry, then suggesting Frank Lampard instead.

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Re: Bruce staying
« Reply #16922 on: July 30, 2018, 01:42:10 PM »
Is it possible that this "Bruce staying" can be locked and a new one for this season ie "Bruce Staying Again"?

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Re: Bruce staying
« Reply #16923 on: July 30, 2018, 01:42:42 PM »
A manager who deserves longer doesn't have a list of possible sacking dates like that so I don't think it's fair to call people moronic if they wanted a change in manager because they expect him to fail again.
But the alternative offered was Thierry Henry. If it had been, say, Dean Smith or Chris Houghton then it would have made the decision less clear.

Let someone else take the punt on Henry. We don't need to visit the casino again.

I touted lampard as he's an understanding wise modern football coach .

Would have liked him on board after play off finals and think he will be a great uk manager.

Fair play to derby I like to think Villa would make such a move for him say we we're promoted 2018 /19 season , but Bruce is failing in season 2018/20 and derby lost in those 2018/19 play offs after a great season under lampard then reasonable to suggest him as an option.

Bizarre.  You spent most of the last week railing against Henry, but then suggest Lampard, who has even less practical experience than Henry.

What on earth are you basing the "wise modern football coach" on.  At least Henry has his Pro Licence, something Lampard hasn't.

No last week was against fake news ! There was no Henry deal ! Don't we get that . And that what I was whittering on about.

I am all for a progressive coach like lampard who has fresh ideas and thinking .
However I have now said maybe it's early to call him a wise coach as this is his first managerial role.

However I am not the only who rates him more than Bruce to get promotion as odds , all be it tight , suggest people are backing derby because of lampard.

What will be bizarre as I think Bruce would beat him in the matches v each other as he's less experience than Bruce.

However my point stands I think he is or will be a great coach/ manager 
And great means his team will play good football and he LL get opportunity to manage big clubs .

Villa could be one of them .
Let's re visit this if Bruce leaves and see how many will be saying let's get Lampard
JT could come in to assist too.

Anyway hope make more sense.
I like a dynamic forward thinking modern manager to replace Bruce when he leaves.
Lampard could be that guy

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Re: Bruce staying
« Reply #16924 on: July 30, 2018, 01:48:25 PM »
Sorry Footy, but based on current evidence it makes zero sense to be so anti Henry getting the job and at the same time promote the virtues of Frank Lampard.

Lampard might end up being brilliant, but as it stands he is less experienced than Henry.

Wasn't anti as there was no deal for Henry I was  campaign against and anti the daily star Dave woods exclusives story of a verbal agreement . And anti everyone believed it .

Is it really that complex!

Henry could have been Laurent Blanc or zidane to me it was just a non sense

Okay I won't be following the daily star and Henry argument and accept people choose what they like to believe 

So that's it no more bringing that story up or mentioning them involved. 

My opinion though is in
potential of lampard as someone who if Villa took derby route would bring some good brand of football that is lacking under Bruce.

I hold that view.
And we can see if
1. How well derby will play good football
2. How well the season they do in the league and promotion push

We can only then draw comparison with valid reason to suggest that
1. Bruce is outdated and lampard would have been better choice
2. A manager with no experience can do well ( or not) as case to be seen.


« Last Edit: July 30, 2018, 02:00:13 PM by footyskillz »

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Re: Bruce staying
« Reply #16925 on: July 30, 2018, 01:58:45 PM »
Sorry Footy, but based on current evidence it makes zero sense to be so anti Henry getting the job and at the same time promote the virtues of Frank Lampard.

Lampard might end up being brilliant, but as it stands he is less experienced than Henry.

Wasn't anti as there was no deal for Henry I was  campaign against and anti the daily star Dave woods exclusives story of a verbal agreement . And anti everyone believed it .

Is it really that complex!

Henry could have been Laurent Blanc or zidane it was just a non sense


It's so kind of you to stop mentioning that you were right and the rest of the world was wrong :o)

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Re: Bruce staying
« Reply #16926 on: July 30, 2018, 02:05:11 PM »
Sorry Footy, but based on current evidence it makes zero sense to be so anti Henry getting the job and at the same time promote the virtues of Frank Lampard.

Lampard might end up being brilliant, but as it stands he is less experienced than Henry.

Wasn't anti as there was no deal for Henry I was  campaign against and anti the daily star Dave woods exclusives story of a verbal agreement . And anti everyone believed it .

Is it really that complex!

Henry could have been Laurent Blanc or zidane it was just a non sense


It's so kind of you to stop mentioning that you were right and the rest of the world was wrong :o)

Let's see how Well we could have done with Lampard but I won't gloat after he's seen as a fresh thinking good coach who have got Derby playing great attacking football pressing and scoring goals. When we are left with Bruce!

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Re: Bruce staying
« Reply #16927 on: July 30, 2018, 02:30:39 PM »
who knows Skillz, he might be ours by October!

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Re: Bruce staying
« Reply #16928 on: July 30, 2018, 04:34:24 PM »
Maybe we should give Gary Neville a go?

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Re: Bruce staying
« Reply #16929 on: July 30, 2018, 04:35:24 PM »
I'm holding out for the shock appointment of Arsene Wenger.

Offline Allan C

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Re: Bruce staying
« Reply #16930 on: July 30, 2018, 04:54:47 PM »
And what Bruce has also proven at other clubs is that he can get them promoted. He's done it more than any other manager.
That’s not my point. It’s not his promotion history but his style of football that I have always had issue with. It’s ok at this level ( that’s debatable in the modern game) but totally out of place where we want to be. Which ever way you spin it, Bruce’s football is out of date.

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Re: Bruce staying
« Reply #16931 on: July 30, 2018, 05:01:39 PM »
And what Bruce has also proven at other clubs is that he can get them promoted. He's done it more than any other manager.
That’s not my point. It’s not his promotion history but his style of football that I have always had issue with. It’s ok at this level ( that’s debatable in the modern game) but totally out of place where we want to be. Which ever way you spin it, Bruce’s football is out of date.

You could argue so is Colin Wanker’s but I’d rather be where Cardiff are now

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Re: Bruce staying
« Reply #16932 on: July 30, 2018, 05:10:57 PM »
And what Bruce has also proven at other clubs is that he can get them promoted. He's done it more than any other manager.
That’s not my point. It’s not his promotion history but his style of football that I have always had issue with. It’s ok at this level ( that’s debatable in the modern game) but totally out of place where we want to be. Which ever way you spin it, Bruce’s football is out of date.

You could argue so is Colin Wanker’s but I’d rather be where Cardiff are now

Or Man Utd.


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Re: Bruce staying
« Reply #16933 on: July 30, 2018, 05:52:08 PM »
I'm holding out for the shock appointment of Arsene Wenger.

DoF with Henry as Head Coach?

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Re: Bruce staying
« Reply #16934 on: July 30, 2018, 06:28:03 PM »
And what Bruce has also proven at other clubs is that he can get them promoted. He's done it more than any other manager.
That’s not my point. It’s not his promotion history but his style of football that I have always had issue with. It’s ok at this level ( that’s debatable in the modern game) but totally out of place where we want to be. Which ever way you spin it, Bruce’s football is out of date.

You could argue so is Colin Wanker’s but I’d rather be where Cardiff are now

Or Man Utd.



Oh yeah. The miserable bugger play the worst stryle of football when you consider the talent at his disposal

 


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