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Author Topic: Bruce Sacked at last (now official)  (Read 2405840 times)

Offline Allan C

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Re: Bruce staying
« Reply #16935 on: July 30, 2018, 07:12:51 PM »
And what Bruce has also proven at other clubs is that he can get them promoted. He's done it more than any other manager.
That’s not my point. It’s not his promotion history but his style of football that I have always had issue with. It’s ok at this level ( that’s debatable in the modern game) but totally out of place where we want to be. Which ever way you spin it, Bruce’s football is out of date.

You could argue so is Colin Wanker’s but I’d rather be where Cardiff are now
Unless there is a total change in Colin’s coaching and footballing philosophy and a change of at least three quarters of Cardiff’s squad then they’ll be back where we are again in a years time which again is my point about Bruce.

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Re: Bruce staying
« Reply #16936 on: July 30, 2018, 07:16:34 PM »
And what Bruce has also proven at other clubs is that he can get them promoted. He's done it more than any other manager.
That’s not my point. It’s not his promotion history but his style of football that I have always had issue with. It’s ok at this level ( that’s debatable in the modern game) but totally out of place where we want to be. Which ever way you spin it, Bruce’s football is out of date.

You could argue so is Colin Wanker’s but I’d rather be where Cardiff are now
Unless there is a total change in Colin’s coaching and footballing philosophy and a change of at least three quarters of Cardiff’s squad then they’ll be back where we are again in a years time which again is my point about Bruce.

I agree. Warnock is no way a PL quality manager. This is where our board should be strong if Bruce gets us up next season, thanks but we need stay up.

Offline Allan C

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Re: Bruce staying
« Reply #16937 on: July 30, 2018, 08:19:50 PM »
And what Bruce has also proven at other clubs is that he can get them promoted. He's done it more than any other manager.
That’s not my point. It’s not his promotion history but his style of football that I have always had issue with. It’s ok at this level ( that’s debatable in the modern game) but totally out of place where we want to be. Which ever way you spin it, Bruce’s football is out of date.

You could argue so is Colin Wanker’s but I’d rather be where Cardiff are now
Unless there is a total change in Colin’s coaching and footballing philosophy and a change of at least three quarters of Cardiff’s squad then they’ll be back where we are again in a years time which again is my point about Bruce.

I agree. Warnock is no way a PL quality manager. This is where our board should be strong if Bruce gets us up next season, thanks but we need stay up.
I don’t think he’ll get us up which is why a change of manager now could have begun to put together a philosophy and playing style that would see us competitive in the Premier League rather than wait in hope to be “there or there abouts” and a total rebuild of the squad and a new coach required

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Re: Bruce staying
« Reply #16938 on: July 30, 2018, 09:41:55 PM »
Warnock has a history of promotion and relegation. Bruce at least stayed up a number of times.

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Re: Bruce staying
« Reply #16939 on: July 30, 2018, 09:49:12 PM »
I'm more optimistic than I have been for a long time, I think we finally have owners who know what they're doing. Bruce is a stop gap even I could see it was impossible to replace him so close to the start of the season, while results go our way they will give him support but these guys do not mess around.

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Re: Bruce staying
« Reply #16940 on: July 30, 2018, 09:50:07 PM »
I am all for a progressive coach like lampard who has fresh ideas and thinking .
However I have now said maybe it's early to call him a wise coach as this is his first managerial role.

If it's too early to call him a good coach in his first job (seeing as he hasn't managed for a single competitive game yet, I would agree), how on earth are you deciding he's a 'progressive' coach who has 'fresh ideas and thinking'?


Offline KevinGage

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Re: Bruce staying
« Reply #16941 on: July 30, 2018, 10:49:37 PM »
He's got really lovely hair.

Unlike Henry.

Online Rudy Can't Fail

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Re: Bruce staying
« Reply #16942 on: July 30, 2018, 11:19:51 PM »
One minor thing that may explain a thing or two to our wonderful management team is Bruce trusts more Calderwood on the bench than the more progressive and attacking Agnew.

You can lead a donkey to water..

Offline adrenachrome

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Re: Bruce staying
« Reply #16943 on: July 31, 2018, 12:17:19 AM »
One minor thing that may explain a thing or two to our wonderful management team is Bruce trusts more Calderwood on the bench than the more progressive and attacking Agnew.

You can lead a donkey to water..

That is an interesting point. Calderwood might be the new Steve Harrison.

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Re: Bruce staying
« Reply #16944 on: July 31, 2018, 12:52:09 AM »
One minor thing that may explain a thing or two to our wonderful management team is Bruce trusts more Calderwood on the bench than the more progressive and attacking Agnew.

You can lead a donkey to water..

That is an interesting point. Calderwood might be the new Steve Harrison.

Harrison's greatest talent was making the players laugh.

Offline adrenachrome

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Re: Bruce staying
« Reply #16945 on: July 31, 2018, 01:00:25 AM »
One minor thing that may explain a thing or two to our wonderful management team is Bruce trusts more Calderwood on the bench than the more progressive and attacking Agnew.

You can lead a donkey to water..

That is an interesting point. Calderwood might be the new Steve Harrison.

Harrison's greatest talent was making the players laugh.

True dat.

But he was known to be ultra  defensively inclined which was further proven when Southgate took him to Boro.  They were even more boring than we were.

Ghastly.

Offline footyskillz

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Re: Bruce staying
« Reply #16946 on: July 31, 2018, 08:56:54 AM »
I am all for a progressive coach like lampard who has fresh ideas and thinking .
However I have now said maybe it's early to call him a wise coach as this is his first managerial role.

If it's too early to call him a good coach in his first job (seeing as he hasn't managed for a single competitive game yet, I would agree), how on earth are you deciding he's a 'progressive' coach who has 'fresh ideas and thinking'?

From how he talks and on the way Derby will play and by the fact he is young and new by definition means it's progressive and freshr rather than the same old names churning out same old football.

Of course it remains to be seen but its the case Lampard understands the modern day dressing room more than say kick mcarthy - in a relatable sense.

Also he's learnt from managers and playing top level so would be implement these ideas .

Though I can see why one would challenge the idea he is forward thinking due to lack of evidence .

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Re: Bruce staying
« Reply #16947 on: July 31, 2018, 09:25:22 AM »
One minor thing that may explain a thing or two to our wonderful management team is Bruce trusts more Calderwood on the bench than the more progressive and attacking Agnew.

Has Agnew gone?
I've never rated Calderwood; not sure what he brings over and above the SB philosophy*.




* the SB philosophy being: I don't do tactics and let's make sure we don't concede.

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Re: Bruce staying
« Reply #16948 on: July 31, 2018, 09:30:10 AM »
One minor thing that may explain a thing or two to our wonderful management team is Bruce trusts more Calderwood on the bench than the more progressive and attacking Agnew.

You can lead a donkey to water..

That is an interesting point. Calderwood might be the new Steve Harrison.

Harrison's greatest talent was making the players laugh.

That and shitting into a cup whist atop a wardrobe.

As listeners to the very funny Top Flight Time Machine will have been reminded recently.

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Re: Bruce staying
« Reply #16949 on: July 31, 2018, 10:30:12 AM »
I knew about the shitting into a cup, but wasn't aware of the involvement of a wardrobe. Are you saying he shat into a cup on the floor, from atop a wardrobe? Pretty impressive aiming, if so. Disgustingly impressive.

 


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