Quote from: john e on July 05, 2018, 06:03:39 PMthe manager and financial situation are two different things imoi honestly believe that even if we had gone up the premiership money would have just masked over the troubles for a later date with Xia, we would have had to spend most of it on new players, maybe buying some of the loan players, and players wagesthe cash flow/money problems would have come again at some time as i don't think Xia is anything like the man he would have us believe he isBruce is a different case, he certainly hasn't helped with the financial meltdown buying a load of old plodders and putting them on massive wages with virtually no chance of selling any of them to ease the cash flow because they arn't good enough to old or payed to much money that alone is unforgivable but not the main reason we are in this hell hole personally hate his football, his tactics, the players he's bought in are mostly poor there is not one thing i can think of that makes me think he is any good with or without backingnow the squad has been stripped bare of the loan players and in time the expected sale of our saleable assets what we have left is no where near worthy of the money Bruce has spentwe will start the season with every last one of Bruce's boys as literally not a single one could you get your money back because they are not good enough, to old or on to bigger wagesthat's where we are, the blokes build nothing, has nothing of worth to sell and has no idea what to do in footballing terms to get us out of this messwhatever else Bruce has done while at Villa the one thing he has not done is given us any stability, i laugh my bollocks of when i see the word stability linked with Bruce, you couldn't get any further from the truth to suggest it franklywe are in the least stable position we have ever been in certainly in my lifetime on and off the pitch if we want to give ourselves a chance to improve, move forward create some stability try and manoeuvre our way out of the shit trough it will not be with Bruce he just doesn't and cant do it, you don't even need to be a genius to see it , its right there in front of our eyesthere is not a single good reason to keep him no matter what happens off the pitch..........imo*wild applause* *slightly teary clutching of heart*Excellent points. Well said, John.
the manager and financial situation are two different things imoi honestly believe that even if we had gone up the premiership money would have just masked over the troubles for a later date with Xia, we would have had to spend most of it on new players, maybe buying some of the loan players, and players wagesthe cash flow/money problems would have come again at some time as i don't think Xia is anything like the man he would have us believe he isBruce is a different case, he certainly hasn't helped with the financial meltdown buying a load of old plodders and putting them on massive wages with virtually no chance of selling any of them to ease the cash flow because they arn't good enough to old or payed to much money that alone is unforgivable but not the main reason we are in this hell hole personally hate his football, his tactics, the players he's bought in are mostly poor there is not one thing i can think of that makes me think he is any good with or without backingnow the squad has been stripped bare of the loan players and in time the expected sale of our saleable assets what we have left is no where near worthy of the money Bruce has spentwe will start the season with every last one of Bruce's boys as literally not a single one could you get your money back because they are not good enough, to old or on to bigger wagesthat's where we are, the blokes build nothing, has nothing of worth to sell and has no idea what to do in footballing terms to get us out of this messwhatever else Bruce has done while at Villa the one thing he has not done is given us any stability, i laugh my bollocks of when i see the word stability linked with Bruce, you couldn't get any further from the truth to suggest it franklywe are in the least stable position we have ever been in certainly in my lifetime on and off the pitch if we want to give ourselves a chance to improve, move forward create some stability try and manoeuvre our way out of the shit trough it will not be with Bruce he just doesn't and cant do it, you don't even need to be a genius to see it , its right there in front of our eyesthere is not a single good reason to keep him no matter what happens off the pitch..........imo
Surely the stability came about because we had professionals playing for us such as Terry and Snoddy who would not have put up with any slackers. They have gone and I hope we can find a new owner so we can dispose of Bruce as well.
Quote from: frankmosswasmyuncle on July 05, 2018, 09:20:43 PMQuote from: TheMalandro on July 05, 2018, 07:37:42 PMI agree with every word.Manager and owner out. Sooner rather than later.Spot on!As a Moss myself I'm intrigued what relation Amos was to you if Frank was your uncle - cheers buddy VCTM
Quote from: TheMalandro on July 05, 2018, 07:37:42 PMI agree with every word.Manager and owner out. Sooner rather than later.Spot on!
I agree with every word.Manager and owner out. Sooner rather than later.
The last 5 clubs Bruce has managed since 2001Small HeathWiganSunderlandHullVillaNone of them become stable and looked into the future.
Quote from: JUAN PABLO on July 06, 2018, 10:51:20 AMThe last 5 clubs Bruce has managed since 2001Small HeathWiganSunderlandHullVillaNone of them become stable and looked into the future.That's a tad harsh and pointless in some respects especially as you said it's been 17 years since he managed one of those. Bruce is hardly to blame for Carson Yeung for example.
Quote from: Clampy on July 06, 2018, 11:11:33 AMQuote from: JUAN PABLO on July 06, 2018, 10:51:20 AMThe last 5 clubs Bruce has managed since 2001Small HeathWiganSunderlandHullVillaNone of them become stable and looked into the future.That's a tad harsh and pointless in some respects especially as you said it's been 17 years since he managed one of those. Bruce is hardly to blame for Carson Yeung for example. True but the discussion is about the effect he has on club stability and the evidence suggests the answer is 'not much', in part that's because he's walked away when the jobs started to require him to use the players he had rather than constantly adding to it. Given that appears to be exactly where we are now I'd say it's far from pointless.
Quote from: villa `cross the mersey on July 05, 2018, 09:32:01 PMQuote from: frankmosswasmyuncle on July 05, 2018, 09:20:43 PMQuote from: TheMalandro on July 05, 2018, 07:37:42 PMI agree with every word.Manager and owner out. Sooner rather than later.Spot on!As a Moss myself I'm intrigued what relation Amos was to you if Frank was your uncle - cheers buddy VCTMHi VCTM....I have tried to send you a PM but without luck as it can't find you! Frank snr married my dad's sister, so the Moss boys - Frank jnr, Amos and Dennis were my cousins. I am still in touch with a few of their children.
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