Bruce Sacked at last (now official)

[hipkiss92]

Is Marco Silva out of our league?

[Monty]

Is Marco Silva out of our league?

Almost certainly.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

Is Marco Silva out of our league?

Almost certainly.

Signing for Everton later this week according to reports.

[sirlordbaltimore]

Dean Smith does seem the safest bet as he's well established in the league and ticks the most boxes.  But the thought of unearthing the next Wagner, Nuno or Jokanović is very appealing.

Dean Smith will be hounded out as the next Steve Bruce by those clamouring for him to be the next manager. 100% guaranteed. He'll come in, do alright and we'll be nowhere near the promotion spot and they'll turn on him quicker than they did Bruce.

Apparently his teams play lovely football (although i'm pretty sure Brentford had that style of play in place before he went there) but his win ratio is still less than 40% at both of his clubs so far and he also has absolutely zero experience of the HUGE pressure managing a club the size of ours would bring on his shoulders.

So, Bruce a manager with a wealth of experience in this league including numerous actual promotions and with a win percentage of 47% isn't the right man but this man could be. The same Bruce who's just got us to the play off final, and only lost 1-0 to a team that are apparently considered the next Barcelona despite only making the exact same play off final we did.

I honestly don't get it

[luke95]

Dean Smith does seem the safest bet as he's well established in the league and ticks the most boxes.  But the thought of unearthing the next Wagner, Nuno or Jokanović is very appealing.

Dean Smith will be hounded out as the next Steve Bruce by those clamouring for him to be the next manager. 100% guaranteed. He'll come in, do alright and we'll be nowhere near the promotion spot and they'll turn on him quicker than they did Bruce.

Apparently his teams play lovely football (although i'm pretty sure Brentford had that style of play in place before he went there) but his win ratio is still less than 40% at both of his clubs so far and he also has absolutely zero experience of the HUGE pressure managing a club the size of ours would bring on his shoulders.

So, Bruce a manager with a wealth of experience in this league including numerous actual promotions and with a win percentage of 47% isn't the right man but this man could be. The same Bruce who's just got us to the play off final, and only lost 1-0 to a team that are apparently considered the next Barcelona despite only making the exact same play off final we did.

I honestly don't get it

We got to the play off final despite Bruce not becouse of Bruce, Bruce is holding both the club & the current bunch of players back .

[tomd2103]

Dean Smith does seem the safest bet as he's well established in the league and ticks the most boxes.  But the thought of unearthing the next Wagner, Nuno or Jokanović is very appealing.

Dean Smith will be hounded out as the next Steve Bruce by those clamouring for him to be the next manager. 100% guaranteed. He'll come in, do alright and we'll be nowhere near the promotion spot and they'll turn on him quicker than they did Bruce.

Apparently his teams play lovely football (although i'm pretty sure Brentford had that style of play in place before he went there) but his win ratio is still less than 40% at both of his clubs so far and he also has absolutely zero experience of the HUGE pressure managing a club the size of ours would bring on his shoulders.

So, Bruce a manager with a wealth of experience in this league including numerous actual promotions and with a win percentage of 47% isn't the right man but this man could be. The same Bruce who's just got us to the play off final, and only lost 1-0 to a team that are apparently considered the next Barcelona despite only making the exact same play off final we did.

I honestly don't get it

I'm not saying he is the right man for the job, but when considering his win ratio, you have to take into account the clubs he has managed at and the resources they have compared to other teams in the league. 

[Chris Jameson]

We got to the play off final despite Bruce not becouse of Bruce, Bruce is holding both the club & the current bunch of players back .

I can't tell if you are being serious with that post.

[Monty]

We got to the play off final despite Bruce not becouse of Bruce, Bruce is holding both the club & the current bunch of players back .

I think this is simplistic. He did OK to finish fourth, did well to get us to the final of the playoffs, but lost that match showing all his faults and leaving it hard to argue that he got the club particularly close to achieving its potential.

[VinnieChase84]

Gareth Ainsworth being mentioned on twitter via HolteTweets

[chrisw1]

Dean Smith does seem the safest bet as he's well established in the league and ticks the most boxes.  But the thought of unearthing the next Wagner, Nuno or Jokanović is very appealing.

Dean Smith will be hounded out as the next Steve Bruce by those clamouring for him to be the next manager. 100% guaranteed. He'll come in, do alright and we'll be nowhere near the promotion spot and they'll turn on him quicker than they did Bruce.

Apparently his teams play lovely football (although i'm pretty sure Brentford had that style of play in place before he went there) but his win ratio is still less than 40% at both of his clubs so far and he also has absolutely zero experience of the HUGE pressure managing a club the size of ours would bring on his shoulders.

So, Bruce a manager with a wealth of experience in this league including numerous actual promotions and with a win percentage of 47% isn't the right man but this man could be. The same Bruce who's just got us to the play off final, and only lost 1-0 to a team that are apparently considered the next Barcelona despite only making the exact same play off final we did.

I honestly don't get it

I've been an advocate of Bruce and have argued on here vociferously that he did a good job turning us round in very difficult circumstance - not everyone agrees but that was my view.

However, he ultimately came up short and we now need to cut our cloth accordingly.  I think Smith would be far better suited to working under the financial restraints we will have next year. 

[Chris Jameson]

Gareth Ainsworth being mentioned on twitter via HolteTweets

I'm going to go on Twitter and mention Mel Sykes.

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What about if Smith came in and played O'Hare, Grealish and Albert behind Kodjia and we passed the fuck out of everybody at the start of the season and sat top?

Why does it have to be he comes in and does poorly?

[paul_e]

I think bruce's style will, at any club that has serious promotion ambitions, get them there or thereabout because the extra quality in the team coupled with his defensive mentality will see you win more than you lose.  The problems come when you have must win games because sometimes you need to play on the front foot in those and by not doing that he gives away the momentum too readily.  I think the 'despite Bruce' bit is going too far but I do think that any manager from the top half of the championship would've got us into the playoffs as a minimum and many of them are just as average as he is.  He almost did the job he was employed to do, I think that's something plenty of people could achieve.

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The key is away from home.

Too many games we set up not to lose when instead we have the ability to impose ourselves onto others.

[Richard E]

What about if Smith came in and played O'Hare, Grealish and Albert behind Kodjia and we passed the fuck out of everybody at the start of the season and sat top?

Why does it have to be he comes in and does poorly?

Because this is Villa and we can’t have nice things.