Bruce Sacked at last (now official)

[VinnieChase84]

He has done it before.

That's the championship.............

[Des Little]

I agree with the previous poster that I can see Bruce walking away in the summer, regardless of the outcome.  Given the size of the ongoing 'project',and his personal circumstances, I get the impression that he's had his fill now.  His demeanour in recent weeks certainly points that way.

[Hookeysmith]

He has done it before.

That's the championship.............

yes and he has relegated teams also and played shite football at either end of the tables. I gave him some leeway when we went on our run as he seemingly "fell on" the right formation and stuck with it from there until they ran out of gas. But lets not kid ourselves, even through the good run there were some god awful games of football.

Of all this seasons games so far only around 7 or 8 games spring to mind where the game was convincingly controlled and won - that is not a lot for a team expected to be challenging for 1st of 2nd. 

[Gareth]

As much as I don’t want to see Bruce as manager come June 1st whatever the outcome of play offs I can’t see any logic in binning him now, the time to sack him was around Christmas, when the results turned we had to stick with him for the rest of the season.

Bruce does seem to be a streaky manager, at this point we just have to hope a new winning streak starts soon and keeps going to the final whistle at Wembley.

We need to get mathematically safe in play offs then rotate the squad to give the likes of Chester, Terry a break before play offs.

[Drummond]

He has done it before.

Dirty

[Rudy Can't Fail]

He has done it before.

That's the final straw we have to cling to. Everything else just seems so predictable.

Top posts from Boozey & Brassneck.

[David_Nab]

My issue is that we never look like being a consistent machine that wins matches. We seem to make hardwork of most games. The lack of energy and drive (especially after Cardiff's defeat the night before) is worrying as is Adomah and Snoddys lack of spark.

I think we're very easy to play against. Our tactics are not complicated; get it out wide to the wingers, who will cut inside and cross. Or give it Jack and hope he does something. So you crowd Jack, and force the wingers outside. Meanwhile you run at pace at our defence and try draw one of the centre backs out of position. I think most of us would have been able to come up with that plan months ago so it's not surprising other teams have caught on, and Bruce doesn't seem to be able to have an answer for it.

Agree with this and the fact he doesn't know is the most concerning aspect .Its like he looks at the players thinks they are better on paper than rivals and just sends them out ''go on lads do your stuff '' and off they go ..In all his time here I still can't recall any effective use of subs .As mentioned above we are pedestrian at the back and midfield is not much better so any bit of pace and we are found wanting.His use of players is frustrating as well ..Lansbury and Bree both have performed at this level both had one game back in side and promptly dropped , you can't bring in someone for one game then drop them just because the team loses as if they are soley responsible.

After the recent results at least 2 things should be clear
1) The formation /tactics have been worked out and need adjusting
2) Throwing on up to 4 strikers DOES NOT WORK !!!

[TonyD]

Anybody who has even a half decent understanding of the game can see his tactics and team selection / subs are truly wrong.  The team look flat.  Can’t see it changing for the play offs.   I hope I’m wrong. 

[stuart445]

We've lost 10 games. Last season Newcastle also lost 10, Brighton 9 and Huddesfield 13 (with a minus goal difference). I wonder if any if their fans would have advocated sacking their managers 5 games before the end of the season.

Whilst you were checking that did you not see how many games Newcastle and Brighton won?

I did, but if I mentioned that it would have ruined my argument. Still don't think Bruce should be sacked though, not even at the end of the season.

Honest question: why not?

Isn't he on a 1 year rolling contract?

If so he won't be sacked it'll just be his contract won't be renewed if we don't get promoted.  Even as a Bruce sympathiser I can't see him keeping his job if we fail to gain promotion this season as there will be no doubt that he'd have failed to hit the target he was set.

[LeeS]

We've lost 10 games. Last season Newcastle also lost 10, Brighton 9 and Huddesfield 13 (with a minus goal difference). I wonder if any if their fans would have advocated sacking their managers 5 games before the end of the season.

Whilst you were checking that did you not see how many games Newcastle and Brighton won?

I did, but if I mentioned that it would have ruined my argument. Still don't think Bruce should be sacked though, not even at the end of the season.

Honest question: why not?

Isn't he on a 1 year rolling contract?

If so he won't be sacked it'll just be his contract won't be renewed if we don't get promoted.  Even as a Bruce sympathiser I can't see him keeping his job if we fail to gain promotion this season as there will be no doubt that he'd have failed to hit the target he was set.

Doesn't 1 year-rolling mean that you always have one year on your contract?

[Brend'Watkins]

My issue is that we never look like being a consistent machine that wins matches. We seem to make hardwork of most games. The lack of energy and drive (especially after Cardiff's defeat the night before) is worrying as is Adomah and Snoddys lack of spark.

I think we're very easy to play against. Our tactics are not complicated; get it out wide to the wingers, who will cut inside and cross. Or give it Jack and hope he does something. So you crowd Jack, and force the wingers outside. Meanwhile you run at pace at our defence and try draw one of the centre backs out of position. I think most of us would have been able to come up with that plan months ago so it's not surprising other teams have caught on, and Bruce doesn't seem to be able to have an answer for it.

Spot on.

My issue is that we never look like being a consistent machine that wins matches. We seem to make hardwork of most games. The lack of energy and drive (especially after Cardiff's defeat the night before) is worrying as is Adomah and Snoddys lack of spark.

I think we're very easy to play against. Our tactics are not complicated; get it out wide to the wingers, who will cut inside and cross. Or give it Jack and hope he does something. So you crowd Jack, and force the wingers outside. Meanwhile you run at pace at our defence and try draw one of the centre backs out of position. I think most of us would have been able to come up with that plan months ago so it's not surprising other teams have caught on, and Bruce doesn't seem to be able to have an answer for it.

Which stood out like the proverbial sore thumb at the weekend. It could all be rectified by moving the ball a bit more quickly and some interchanging by the forwards in the process. Kodja should start tomorrow night as he offers pace and a bit of something different rather than the largely ineffective Hogan.

[stuart445]

We've lost 10 games. Last season Newcastle also lost 10, Brighton 9 and Huddesfield 13 (with a minus goal difference). I wonder if any if their fans would have advocated sacking their managers 5 games before the end of the season.

Whilst you were checking that did you not see how many games Newcastle and Brighton won?

I did, but if I mentioned that it would have ruined my argument. Still don't think Bruce should be sacked though, not even at the end of the season.

Honest question: why not?

Isn't he on a 1 year rolling contract?

If so he won't be sacked it'll just be his contract won't be renewed if we don't get promoted.  Even as a Bruce sympathiser I can't see him keeping his job if we fail to gain promotion this season as there will be no doubt that he'd have failed to hit the target he was set.

Doesn't 1 year-rolling mean that you always have one year on your contract?

I'd imagine there'd be a clause in the contract where either side can opt to not have it renewed.  For example a clause where it states a minimum notice time of the contract not being renewed or if a set target isn't reached (Promotion) it's at our discretion to renew or not.

it's either that or he'll be sacked.

[Allan C]

There is the princely sum of ten managers who have been in position longer than Pochettino has at spuds. Mick Mccarthy is one of them.

Constantly changing managers isn't the problem, it's constantly failing to pick the right manager.

Correct answer

[AsTallAsLions]

We've lost 10 games. Last season Newcastle also lost 10, Brighton 9 and Huddesfield 13 (with a minus goal difference). I wonder if any if their fans would have advocated sacking their managers 5 games before the end of the season.

Whilst you were checking that did you not see how many games Newcastle and Brighton won?

I did, but if I mentioned that it would have ruined my argument. Still don't think Bruce should be sacked though, not even at the end of the season.

Honest question: why not?

Isn't he on a 1 year rolling contract?

If so he won't be sacked it'll just be his contract won't be renewed if we don't get promoted.  Even as a Bruce sympathiser I can't see him keeping his job if we fail to gain promotion this season as there will be no doubt that he'd have failed to hit the target he was set.

Doesn't 1 year-rolling mean that you always have one year on your contract?

I'd imagine there'd be a clause in the contract where either side can opt to not have it renewed.  For example a clause where it states a minimum notice time of the contract not being renewed or if a set target isn't reached (Promotion) it's at our discretion to renew or not.

it's either that or he'll be sacked.

Didn't O'Neill have a rolling contract? He had no problem walking out on the eve of a season and still managed to claim handsome compensation for his (our) troubles.

[Drummond]

Kodjia has done nothing of note in his brief appearances back, he's definitely not the droid we're looking for.