Bruce Sacked at last (now official)

[AV82EC]

I’m as fucked off as everyone else, thank fuck I decided not to go today, but I voted back at Christmas that he gets the season including the play offs and that’s where my vote stays.

He needs to get a grip of this lot though. He got Adomah fired up by dropping him at the start of the season, he needs to do that again. The same with Hourihane. He also needs to work out how to stop our 2 wide players being marked out of the game and stopping all our creativity.

Sort it out Bruce you potato faced dinosaur.

[Chinchilla Bathhouse]

This league isn't half as tough as Bruce is making it look.

(Edit. Just noticed PWS beat me to it...)

[ChicagoLion]

It's probably better to think of the Wolves game as an exception.The reality is that we are 5 points behind third place,7 points behind and played a game extra compared to Cardiff and a mere 16 points off Wolves.One offs are not important in the league,consistency is and that's why it's nearly 800 pages in just over a year on this thread.
The best case scenario for Bruce is to win the play offs.Would the board have the nerve or intelligence to sack him then ?As some people suggest in that scenario,give him to Oct /Nov to see if he can handle the Prem.And then we would be scrabbling around for second choices or the revolving door managers...Pardew,Hughes etc.
Sacking him now might not leave us with many choices as I've just mentioned,however I would bite the bullet and see if a Terry/Agnew partnership works in the short term.In the short term under Bruce we have got 4 points from playing 5 bottom half sides.

Great post. I agree with every word.

Just get rid now, I'd take a gamble with Agnew/Terry - they know the squad. They are not Bruce.

Agree, Bruce is a spent force.

[David_Nab]

So I wonder to the 3 coaches we have in Clemance , Agnew and Calderwood sit there thinking this throw on all the attackers is a a shit idea and say nothing ..

We are not winning now as we still don't control the flow of a game , the 2 midfielders generally play sideways or backwards passes. The thrust of our attacks is get it to Grealish / Snoddgrass and Adomah and let them create so whats happened is teams are getting tighter to those three.Norwich today got tight and fouled alot and we couldn't stand up to it.
We are quite a small team too so rarely profit from high balls and yet we play them constantly or punt up the line for Hogan etc to chase .

For me we have to stop playing 4-2-3-1 , we need another man in midfield and the front 3 should be a mixture of Snoddgrass/Adomah/Grealish/Kodji/Grabben/Hogan .At t his point I don't think the defence is good enough to only have 2 men in front and none of the CM's we have work as a 2 man midfield.

[Risso]

He looked a broken man in the post-match interviews.  Hopefully he's now had a flash of self awareness that he's really not up to the job. 

[Taylor]

Our incompetence is making it a tough league. It's actually quite an easy league as the majority of sides are shite, which is why most seasons the decent ones go up pretty comfortably and don't fall back on "well that's the Championship".

All good points, despite flying in the face of just about every ex player, pundit and journalist (but what do they know) So you think Bruce should be sacked now?

[mike]

It's probably better to think of the Wolves game as an exception.The reality is that we are 5 points behind third place,7 points behind and played a game extra compared to Cardiff and a mere 16 points off Wolves.One offs are not important in the league,consistency is and that's why it's nearly 800 pages in just over a year on this thread.
The best case scenario for Bruce is to win the play offs.Would the board have the nerve or intelligence to sack him then ?As some people suggest in that scenario,give him to Oct /Nov to see if he can handle the Prem.And then we would be scrabbling around for second choices or the revolving door managers...Pardew,Hughes etc.
Sacking him now might not leave us with many choices as I've just mentioned,however I would bite the bullet and see if a Terry/Agnew partnership works in the short term.In the short term under Bruce we have got 4 points from playing 5 bottom half sides.

You’re absolutely right. People over complicate things. If it looks like an elephant and smells like an elephant, it’s probably an elephant. We’re just not very good.

[PeterWithesShin]

The ones that say it is a hard league are generally the ones that aren't good enough to get out of it, or at least make a struggle of it. Newcastle's last 2 visits saw them stroll to promotion with 102 points and 94 points. Didn't seem hard for them either time. Doesn't seem hard for Wolves.

And I haven't mentioned sacking him right now at all.

[TonyD]

If we get tonked on Tuesday,  he might go.

[Steve67]

Our incompetence is making it a tough league. It's actually quite an easy league as the majority of sides are shite, which is why most seasons the decent ones go up pretty comfortably and don't fall back on "well that's the Championship".

All good points, despite flying in the face of just about every ex player, pundit and journalist (but what do they know) So you think Bruce should be sacked now?

It would be perceived as classless and bad form to talk about sacking Bruce when on the telly, especially when we are in 4th spot. Many of the pundits are in the old boys network and don't really have a clue about the day to day Villa that we see.

[Allan C]

It's probably better to think of the Wolves game as an exception.The reality is that we are 5 points behind third place,7 points behind and played a game extra compared to Cardiff and a mere 16 points off Wolves.One offs are not important in the league,consistency is and that's why it's nearly 800 pages in just over a year on this thread.
The best case scenario for Bruce is to win the play offs.Would the board have the nerve or intelligence to sack him then ?As some people suggest in that scenario,give him to Oct /Nov to see if he can handle the Prem.And then we would be scrabbling around for second choices or the revolving door managers...Pardew,Hughes etc.
Sacking him now might not leave us with many choices as I've just mentioned,however I would bite the bullet and see if a Terry/Agnew partnership works in the short term.In the short term under Bruce we have got 4 points from playing 5 bottom half sides.

Or alternatively we do go up via the play offs, buy a couple of decent players to compliment Kodija, Grealish, Snograss, and end up in the top half of the Premiership. FFS we are fourth in an extremely tough league, just look at the current Prem table, none of last years promoted teams are in the bottom three. There is no way that Xia will sack Bruce now, and neither should he. Please get a grip.

It will take a lot more than a few decent players for us to end up in the top half of the premier league and I think you are overestimating this league, the vast majority of the teams are very poor indeed.

[ColinMac]

Said it before and will say it again. Whatever division we are in next season we will do a lot better with a change of manager. Thanks Steve, decent bloke, but the job is too much for you and your limitations are more exposed with each defeat.

[Malandro]

He looked a broken man in the post-match interviews.  Hopefully he's now had a flash of self awareness that he's really not up to the job. 

Doubt it, he'll be bitching about the fans when he gets mashed.

[ChicagoLion]

It's probably better to think of the Wolves game as an exception.The reality is that we are 5 points behind third place,7 points behind and played a game extra compared to Cardiff and a mere 16 points off Wolves.One offs are not important in the league,consistency is and that's why it's nearly 800 pages in just over a year on this thread.
The best case scenario for Bruce is to win the play offs.Would the board have the nerve or intelligence to sack him then ?As some people suggest in that scenario,give him to Oct /Nov to see if he can handle the Prem.And then we would be scrabbling around for second choices or the revolving door managers...Pardew,Hughes etc.
Sacking him now might not leave us with many choices as I've just mentioned,however I would bite the bullet and see if a Terry/Agnew partnership works in the short term.In the short term under Bruce we have got 4 points from playing 5 bottom half sides.

Or alternatively we do go up via the play offs, buy a couple of decent players to compliment Kodija, Grealish, Snograss, and end up in the top half of the Premiership. FFS we are fourth in an extremely tough league, just look at the current Prem table, none of last years promoted teams are in the bottom three. There is no way that Xia will sack Bruce now, and neither should he. Please get a grip.

It will take a lot more than a few decent players for us to end up in the top half of the premier league and I think you are overestimating this league, the vast majority of the teams are very poor indeed.

We have managed to get down to the leagues level.
Tough league with our squad is nonsense.

[Chinchilla Bathhouse]

He looked a broken man in the post-match interviews.  Hopefully he's now had a flash of self awareness that he's really not up to the job. 

Doubt it, he'll be bitching about the fans when he gets mashed.

That's a point. Has he blamed us yet? It can't be long until it's our fault.