Bruce Sacked at last (now official)

[olaftab]

Our incompetence is making it a tough league. It's actually quite an easy league as the majority of sides are shite, which is why most seasons the decent ones go up pretty comfortably and don't fall back on "well that's the Championship".

All good points, despite flying in the face of just about every ex player, pundit and journalist (but what do they know) So you think Bruce should be sacked now?

Mate it's just a League nothing more. It's not tougher/harder than any other League.  Better teams stand out as Wolves this season and Newcastle and Brighton last season. Teams  with momentum and clever coaching continue such as Cardiff and Fulham. Inadequately coached teams only make it so far and then fall away such as us. It's not rocket science. I really don't know why pundits etc make it into such an ogre. It's just a League.

[Taylor]

If we get tonked on Tuesday,  he might go.

No he won't. And nor will we. Why has everyone given up?

[David_Nab]

He looked a broken man in the post-match interviews.  Hopefully he's now had a flash of self awareness that he's really not up to the job. 

Doubt it, he'll be bitching about the fans when he gets mashed.

That's a point. Has he blamed us yet? It can't be long until it's our fault.

He is currently in the ''I'm on the fans side we were shit '' stage which is just as annoying ..

[Des Little]

Let’s see where we are come 27th May. Only then can we make a call either way. Until then, let’s just find some bloody form.

[Malandro]

If we get tonked on Tuesday,  he might go.

No he won't. And nor will we. Why has everyone given up?

B r u c e.

[walsall villain]

If we get tonked on Tuesday,  he might go.

No he won't. And nor will we. Why has everyone given up?

I’ll never stop going but having watched them for a very long time I don’t feel this team has played well enough to get promoted.

[robleflaneur]

I see 4th with this squad as underachievement.As others have said,there seems no coherent style unless as one memorable poster put it you see Hogan as a Benteke.He doesn't appear to know how to set up a team that operates with 1 striker.The team needs a midfielder player who consistently gets in the box or one who gets goals from the edge of the box.If it's the latter then crosses need to be pulled back to that area.Do you ever see that under Bruce ? Do youngsters get a chance to freshen up the team ?Mitch Clark and Bree deserve a chance more than the hapless Taylor.Why not let RHM loose against Championship defenders or let O'Hare have the chance to play alongside Grealish.More energy,more pace ,qualities we so often lack.
Yes,Bruce could get us up via the play offs but the evidence over the last 2 seasons is not convincing.A combination of Terry/Agnew should provide more intelligence and inspiration.

[Chinchilla Bathhouse]

If we get tonked on Tuesday,  he might go.

No he won't. And nor will we. Why has everyone given up?

They've seen us play.

[ChicagoLion]

I see 4th with this squad as underachievement.As others have said,there seems no coherent style unless as one memorable poster put it you see Hogan as a Benteke.He doesn't appear to know how to set up a team that operates with 1 striker.The team needs a midfielder player who consistently gets in the box or one who gets goals from the edge of the box.If it's the latter then crosses need to be pulled back to that area.Do you ever see that under Bruce ? Do youngsters get a chance to freshen up the team ?Mitch Clark and Bree deserve a chance more than the hapless Taylor.Why not let RHM loose against Championship defenders or let O'Hare have the chance to play alongside Grealish.More energy,more pace ,qualities we so often lack.
Yes,Bruce could get us up via the play offs but the evidence over the last 2 seasons is not convincing.A combination of Terry/Agnew should provide more intelligence and inspiration.

Great post.

[Lastfootstamper]

It's probably better to think of the Wolves game as an exception.The reality is that we are 5 points behind third place,7 points behind and played a game extra compared to Cardiff and a mere 16 points off Wolves.One offs are not important in the league,consistency is and that's why it's nearly 800 pages in just over a year on this thread.
The best case scenario for Bruce is to win the play offs.Would the board have the nerve or intelligence to sack him then ?As some people suggest in that scenario,give him to Oct /Nov to see if he can handle the Prem.And then we would be scrabbling around for second choices or the revolving door managers...Pardew,Hughes etc.
Sacking him now might not leave us with many choices as I've just mentioned,however I would bite the bullet and see if a Terry/Agnew partnership works in the short term.In the short term under Bruce we have got 4 points from playing 5 bottom half sides.

Or alternatively we do go up via the play offs, buy a couple of decent players to compliment Kodija, Grealish, Snograss, and end up in the top half of the Premiership. FFS we are fourth in an extremely tough league, just look at the current Prem table, none of last years promoted teams are in the bottom three. There is no way that Xia will sack Bruce now, and neither should he. Please get a grip.

Unless that's Ronaldo and Messi, I think your maths is out by a factor of about five. We've had no players that have instilled a season's-long terror upon this division. Had we remained a top division side, and then proceeded to buy any of them, I'd have suspected something along the lines of our owner losing interest and running us on the serious cheap whilst playing fast and loose with our PL status.

[stuart445]

What  people fail to note is that Steve Bruce in the 18 months he has been at the club has had to turn the whole mentality around, has  had to recruit probably players given his own ideas he would not have gone for and has had to endure an  awful high expectation. 

There is not the calibre of manager around like in the days of Ron Saunders, Shankly, Bertie Mee etc. 

Lets not become a Leeds and sack manger after manager just because we cannot reach Mecca in a season.

You won't survive in this thread long with that attitude.

There are only 2 rules to this thread.

1.  We win a game it's all down to Steve Agnew ***
2.  We Lose A Game Steve Bruce is shit it's all down to him.

*** Rule 1 was amended after the appointment of Steve Agnew,  Original rule was We Win a game Bruce got lucky.

[Malandro]

What  people fail to note is that Steve Bruce in the 18 months he has been at the club has had to turn the whole mentality around, has  had to recruit probably players given his own ideas he would not have gone for and has had to endure an  awful high expectation. 

There is not the calibre of manager around like in the days of Ron Saunders, Shankly, Bertie Mee etc. 

Lets not become a Leeds and sack manger after manager just because we cannot reach Mecca in a season.

You won't survive in this thread long with that attitude.

There are only 2 rules to this thread.

1.  We win a game it's all down to Steve Agnew ***
2.  We Lose A Game Steve Bruce is shit it's all down to him.

*** Rule 1 was amended after the appointment of Steve Agnew,  Original rule was We Win a game Bruce got lucky.

Bruce in, he's been let down. Fans fault..

[Smirker]

In.

I'm backing Big Steve.

[auntiesledd]

What  people fail to note is that Steve Bruce in the 18 months he has been at the club has had to turn the whole mentality around, has  had to recruit probably players given his own ideas he would not have gone for and has had to endure an  awful high expectation. 

There is not the calibre of manager around like in the days of Ron Saunders, Shankly, Bertie Mee etc. 

Lets not become a Leeds and sack manger after manager just because we cannot reach Mecca in a season.

You won't survive in this thread long with that attitude.

There are only 2 rules to this thread.

1.  We win a game it's all down to Steve Agnew ***
2.  We Lose A Game Steve Bruce is shit it's all down to him.

*** Rule 1 was amended after the appointment of Steve Agnew,  Original rule was We Win a game Bruce got lucky.

But that's just not true. When they have played well, by-&-large the team & the Manager get the credit they deserve. When they put in the kind of gutless, pathetically inadequate display that we've seen of late: they get called out. And rightly so.

[Risso]

Don't feed the troll.