Aston Villa v Ipswich Town Post-Match Thread

[passport1]

to have taken over the club appointed two managers in the first season and presided over the club sinking to the bottom of the Championship is  hardly an auspicious start.

[Billy Walker]

I really want to do the sensible thing and back Bruce. But the football, and the bollock-kicking losses we seem to have made our new favourite habit, are making it very difficult not to look enviously at those teams who seem to waltz to victory with nowhere near the talent we have spent millions on.

Yes but how long have those clubs had to work on getting things right?  None of it was overnight stuff.  I'd wager they've all had hammerings and spells of horrible form along the way.

[PeterWithesShin]

We have a new owner, new board, new manager, new coaches, and nearly a completely new team. The last 5 years of shite has little, if anything, to do with how crap we currently are.

Horse shit. You don't turn around 6 years of sabotage overnight. The club is still a mess and it'll take time to turn it around.

Apart from everything I said is true. Hardly anyone of note still at the club was involved in the shit of the last 5 years, we're spending massive money, and we're still shit. For everything he fucked up, it's not Lerner's fault Brentford schooled us or we just lost at home to Ipswich playing 5 at the back. It's his fault we're playing them, not his fault we're losing to them.

[saunders_heroes]

Those 3 new midfielders don't work together in those positions, Elphick is a disaster, the system is too defensive.

Change those 3 things for a start.

I think we just threw too many new players in at the same time, both recently and the start of last season. Then again what choice did we have considering the shit we were left in last summer?
Whatever it is it isn't pretty.

[passport1]

For the new owner and new board to have taken over the club appointed two managers in the first season and presided over the club sinking to the bottom of the Championship is  hardly an auspicious start.

[QuintonVilla]

The football is as bad as under McLeish and Lambert. Against lesser opposition in a lower league.

[saunders_heroes]

We have a new owner, new board, new manager, new coaches, and nearly a completely new team. The last 5 years of shite has little, if anything, to do with how crap we currently are.

Horse shit. You don't turn around 6 years of sabotage overnight. The club is still a mess and it'll take time to turn it around.

Apart from everything I said is true. Hardly anyone of note still at the club was involved in the shit of the last 5 years, we're spending massive money, and we're still shit. For everything he fucked up, it's not Lerner's fault Brentford schooled us, we just lost at home to Ipswich playing 5 at the back. It's his fault we're playing them, not his fault we're losing to them.

It's Lerner's fault we're playing Brentford though isn't it, and the state of this club is all his doing? His legacy is there for everyone to see, and we're desperately trying to rid the club of it, but it still stinks.

[PeterWithesShin]

It is, which is why I said "It's his fault we're playing them, not his fault we're losing to them."

[kippaxvilla2]

Same old Villa. The club is an absolute mess, and all self inflicted as well.
Personally I'd stick with Bruce. Give him a pre-season with the squad and let him have a crack next season, only because of his track record.

At League 1?

[Boz]

We have a new owner, new board, new manager, new coaches, and nearly a completely new team. The last 5 years of shite has little, if anything, to do with how crap we currently are.

Correct, there are no doubt background problems to resolve, but performances on the pitch given the personnel changes should not be impacted by the recent history. Keep Bruce until the end of season unless we're in the bottom three and if performances haven't improved, I'm afraid it's time for another manager

[PaulWinch again]

Bored.

[saunders_heroes]

Same old Villa. The club is an absolute mess, and all self inflicted as well.
Personally I'd stick with Bruce. Give him a pre-season with the squad and let him have a crack next season, only because of his track record.

At League 1?

Well I don't think we'll go down for a start.

[SteveN]

FFS  I've said before I don't rate Bruce and I see little point in continuing with him until the end of the season.  Let someone have the rest of this season and pre-season to get the best out of the players we have. Someone who has not passed their sell by date, Rowett, Alexander for example.

[pipe]

I realy think we need to stick with Bruce just to give some form of stability and continuity. We need to let him have time to get the team to gel. This  is not a one season fix after all the stuff that has gone before

[KevinGage]

The football is as bad as under McLeish and Lambert. Against lesser opposition in a lower league.

It really is quite something.

If it was happening to any other club it would be hilarious.