Forest v Villa Post-Match Thread

[Rudy Can't Fail]

We created plenty of chances and we're easily the better side, which makes it all the more frustrating.

I am pleased we created opportunities throughout the game, which isn't something we've done away from home, so there's hope to be had.

Stats show they had 17 shots to our 11, 6 on target to our 8. 6 each on corners. Yes, it was an improvement on the previous away game but how you can say we're easily the better side is beyond me when they were controlling the game for large parts.

[aj2k77]

10 minutes before Grealish got himself sent off we looked the only team likely to win to be fair.

[Ads]

I can say it because I watched it. They created fuck all until the very death. I can't recall a meaningful effort they had before or after Johnstone's blunder.

We should have stuck 3 or 4 past them. Hogan and Elphick's two efforts were sitters.

They controlled nothing. Territory is equally as important. They had all the possession they wanted in areas where they couldn't hurt us. They put Westwood to shame with their relentless square balls.

[Simon Page]

What bothers me most now, 24 hours on, was Bruce's refusal to write off promotion. I hope he said it because you have to be positive. It was only one game - and we can go back to being abysmal with ease - but there was a lot to be optimistic in that defeat. Forest did have loads of possession, did well to follow up in the hope of the keeper spilling it, and were smart in how they played against 10 men. But we could have been miles in front by the time Grealish committed a particularly stupid foul.

Bree looked good, Thor was the complete opposite of the headless chicken we saw at Griffin Park, Chester is too good for this league, Angela and WhoHeAgain are a marked improvement in the middle, Hogan and Kodjia are both very talented at this level and possibly higher. We need to give them time to work as a unit. Forest kept possession well because they were familiar with each other. We can only get that by keeping a relatively settled line-up. If we do that, we'll have far more up front than a pretty but toothless Forest side.

Sod the play-offs Bruce, we'll win enough to be safe with room to spare so try a few things out and build the understanding between the players. We have balance and a decent squad for the first time this decade. Use it wisely.

[kipeye]

What bothers me most now, 24 hours on, was Bruce's refusal to write off promotion. I hope he said it because you have to be positive. It was only one game - and we can go back to being abysmal with ease - but there was a lot to be optimistic in that defeat. Forest did have loads of possession, did well to follow up in the hope of the keeper spilling it, and were smart in how they played against 10 men. But we could have been miles in front by the time Grealish committed a particularly stupid foul.

Bree looked good, Thor was the complete opposite of the headless chicken we saw at Griffin Park, Chester is too good for this league, Angela and WhoHeAgain are a marked improvement in the middle, Hogan and Kodjia are both very talented at this level and possibly higher. We need to give them time to work as a unit. Forest kept possession well because they were familiar with each other. We can only get that by keeping a relatively settled line-up. If we do that, we'll have far more up front than a pretty but toothless Forest side.

Sod the play-offs Bruce, we'll win enough to be safe with room to spare so try a few things out and build the understanding between the players. We have balance and a decent squad for the first time this decade. Use it wisely.

This.

[ChicagoLion]

80% possession? That's how much pointless, square ball possession Forest had?

Who won the game.

[Ads]

We lost it.

[ChicagoLion]

We lost it.

yep and despite that we smashed them.

[Tony Erdington]

What bothers me most now, 24 hours on, was Bruce's refusal to write off promotion. I hope he said it because you have to be positive. It was only one game - and we can go back to being abysmal with ease - but there was a lot to be optimistic in that defeat. Forest did have loads of possession, did well to follow up in the hope of the keeper spilling it, and were smart in how they played against 10 men. But we could have been miles in front by the time Grealish committed a particularly stupid foul.

Bree looked good, Thor was the complete opposite of the headless chicken we saw at Griffin Park, Chester is too good for this league, Angela and WhoHeAgain are a marked improvement in the middle, Hogan and Kodjia are both very talented at this level and possibly higher. We need to give them time to work as a unit. Forest kept possession well because they were familiar with each other. We can only get that by keeping a relatively settled line-up. If we do that, we'll have far more up front than a pretty but toothless Forest side.

Sod the play-offs Bruce, we'll win enough to be safe with room to spare so try a few things out and build the understanding between the players. We have balance and a decent squad for the first time this decade. Use it wisely.

This.

AND IF your manager comes on and says yes weve given up on the play offs. That sends out such a positive prospective.

[JUAN PABLO]

I don't think luck is running for us at the moment. Shouldn't have lost that game. What happened to Taylor? Not even on the bench??

moved to the same apartment where  RMC was living and could not open the gate

[JUAN PABLO]

10 minutes before Grealish got himself sent off we looked the only team likely to win to be fair.

we did and I thought he was useless second half and should have been replaced, replacing him with Albert or green we probably would have.

[paul_e]

Not really sure what you're on about.

I said I was livid we didn't win the game. We created plenty of chances and we're easily the better side, which makes it all the more frustrating.

I am pleased we created opportunities throughout the game, which isn't something we've done away from home, so there's hope to be had.

What I'm on about is the amount of shit you and 1 or 2 other people were giving me when I said that whilst the results were good we needed to play far better  and you were insistent that the results were what mattered.  Now we can't win games under the same manager you're picking out bits of the performance and acting like Forest didn't deserve the 3 points, do you not see why that's slightly hypocritical?  Either results are all that matters and no wins since boxing day is a car crash record that has been enough for calls for managers to be sacked for the last few years or performances are important in which case the shit displays in November and December were just a precursor for the shit results that came afterwards.

There were a few small positives from yesterday but we still didn't look like a team willing to let the midfield join the strikers and make things happen and there were still big gaps all over the field.  Yes they played it around in their own half and we left them too it but when they did attack they found gaps and created chances.

on the 6 match form table we're bottom with 2 points and you still seem determined to not say anything mean about Bruce.  At some point his record elsewhere has to become irrelevant and we have to judge him on what he's doing with us and other than his first 5-6 games what he's done with us is repeat the same mistakes that saw RDM, Sherwood, Garde and Lambert all get sacked.  I honestly don't care if he talks about seeing the problems at the end of games, his job is to fix them and I haven't seen anything to suggest he's capable of doing it.

[Clampy]

Well unless we nosedive down the division or Dr Tony has a change of heart during the summer, it looks like he'll be here for a while. That's best all round as far as i'm concerned.

[Legion]

We could do with some semblance of stability.

[West Derby Villan]

Yep