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Offline OCD

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Re: Scott Hogan - confirmed
« Reply #1380 on: January 06, 2019, 02:29:58 AM »
Bruce is on record saying he signed Hogan because "his stats were good".

Bruce was signing players as if he was playing Championship Manager.

I doubt Bruce would do well on Championship Manager.

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Re: Scott Hogan - confirmed
« Reply #1381 on: January 06, 2019, 02:39:38 AM »
Bruce is on record saying he signed Hogan because "his stats were good".

Bruce was signing players as if he was playing Championship Manager.

I doubt Bruce would do well on Championship Manager.

Dads promotion record is second to none.

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Re: Scott Hogan - confirmed
« Reply #1382 on: January 06, 2019, 09:11:55 AM »
I get the Bowery comparison but we paid peanuts for him and took a bit of a punt.  We paid about £8-10m for Hogan and he’s absolutely terrible. Like really really bad. You’d think if he thought himself he was struggling a bit he’d put himself about but he doesn’t even do that.  This exactly the reason why Dean Smith needs a summer to mould his own side, nothwithstanding (and I do keep saying this I know ) I still think we can finish in the top 6.

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Re: Scott Hogan - confirmed
« Reply #1383 on: January 06, 2019, 09:21:52 AM »
Exactly. You pay peanuts for a premier league punt and you take it on the chin. He also played well at stoke away (the Lowton game) iirc.

We paid top dollar as a championship club for Hogan and you expect a much better return.

I don’t buy the theory that all he fed on was long balls as we have said the same for 2 years now. We have to accept he’s had his chance and not took it, time and time again. Let’s move him on in the summer as doing it now will leave us with 2 strikers (assuming Abraham goes)

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Re: Scott Hogan - confirmed
« Reply #1384 on: January 06, 2019, 09:36:37 AM »
I don’t want to get on any of our players’ backs but he’s been dreadful. I’m sure he’s better than he’s showing at the minute but for whatever reason it’s not working.

During our only decent passage yesterday, just after Davis and Lansbury came on I genuinely forgot Hogan was playing. He’s miles off the action and looks unfit. I know he’s Smith’s man but if he gets the nod when Tammy goes I’ll be amazed.

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Re: Scott Hogan - confirmed
« Reply #1385 on: January 06, 2019, 09:40:20 AM »
I don’t want to get on any of our players’ backs but he’s been dreadful. I’m sure he’s better than he’s showing at the minute but for whatever reason it’s not working.

During our only decent passage yesterday, just after Davis and Lansbury came on I genuinely forgot Hogan was playing. He’s miles off the action and looks unfit. I know he’s Smith’s man but if he gets the nod when Tammy goes I’ll be amazed.

Probably because he made way for Davis.

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Re: Scott Hogan - confirmed
« Reply #1386 on: January 06, 2019, 11:14:13 AM »
Ha, into the realms of making up reasons why he's shit.
I'm quite patient with players especially if they're at least trying. He was unlucky not to score yesterday and we played awful as a team. He can't be sharp from training sessions alone, I'd have given him more game time from the bench in recent weeks when we've been drawing too many games but unfortunately for him, up-front is where we've been very strong since his old gaffer came in.

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Re: Scott Hogan - confirmed
« Reply #1387 on: January 06, 2019, 11:50:05 AM »
Smith must know him pretty well, I should think. He should also know when he's at his most effective. There's a reason why he doesn't start him in league games when previously he'd have been his first name on the team sheet, and it's because he's not the player he last saw at Brentford.

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Re: Scott Hogan - confirmed
« Reply #1388 on: January 06, 2019, 11:52:34 AM »
Smith must know him pretty well, I should think. He should also know when he's at his most effective. There's a reason why he doesn't start him in league games when previously he'd have been his first name on the team sheet, and it's because he's not the player he last saw at Brentford.

It's also because Abraham has been knocking goals in every week. Even Kodjia doesn't start every game.

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Re: Scott Hogan - confirmed
« Reply #1389 on: January 06, 2019, 12:58:41 PM »
I get the Bowery comparison but we paid peanuts for him and took a bit of a punt.  We paid about £8-10m for Hogan and he’s absolutely terrible. Like really really bad. You’d think if he thought himself he was struggling a bit he’d put himself about but he doesn’t even do that.  This exactly the reason why Dean Smith needs a summer to mould his own side, nothwithstanding (and I do keep saying this I know ) I still think we can finish in the top 6.

That's what frustrates me most about him.  He may not be suited to the style of play, but he has literally no impact on the game at all.  He isn't a pest to defenders and just gets brushed out of the way so easily.  I remember a game last season where the defence had been so comfortable against Hogan throughout, only for Hepburn-Murphy to come on in the final stages and cause them all kind of problems.  It's no just us either, as he has been exactly the same on the occasions I have seen him play for Ireland.

It just hasn't worked for him and it would probably suit both parties if he were to leave.  I would definitely be looking at giving Davis opportunities before him for the rest of the season.

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Re: Scott Hogan - confirmed
« Reply #1390 on: January 06, 2019, 08:32:04 PM »
I'm a big sceptic

But if anyone can get a tune out of him Smith can. We may as well see what he can do for the rest of the season

Although I'd start Kodjia next game with a plan to bring davis on if Kodjia is doing his frustrating act

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Re: Scott Hogan - confirmed
« Reply #1391 on: January 07, 2019, 08:48:49 AM »
You can't polish a turd. Ever.

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Re: Scott Hogan - confirmed
« Reply #1392 on: January 07, 2019, 09:03:37 AM »
We may as well see what he can do for the rest of the season

Nah, you're alright.

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Re: Scott Hogan - confirmed
« Reply #1393 on: January 07, 2019, 09:17:13 AM »
We may as well see what he can do for the rest of the season

Nah, you're alright.

I think if that happens, we're going to need to start switching our attemtions to the other end of the table.

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Re: Scott Hogan - confirmed
« Reply #1394 on: January 07, 2019, 10:59:33 AM »
At least we didn't hump high balls up to him Saturday which is pointless and was pointless under Bruce. On Saturday's showing balls played to his feet are equally pointless.  His touch is shocking.

 


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