Scott Hogan - retired

[andyh]

Is Hogan the one who told the world how he couldn’t wait to get away from his villa nightmare?.............that’s awks !

[Risso]

He can fuck right off.  I'd honestly rather play any other play we have up front than Hogan.

[john e]

the club he plays for who are 3 points of the bottom of the championship want to send him back which gives you a good idea of what standard he is at the moment

he must have had ability at some stage yet he’s now surplus wherever he goes at whatever level,
he can only have himself to blame for that

although he’s probably not that bothered once he had the big money contract he’s secured for life without having to worry to much

[Legion]

Cue the ‘couldn’t wait to leave Stoke’ line.  No thanks.

I’d rather promote Archer.

Same here. Hogan cannot get in to a struggling Stoke team.

[eamonn]

Is Hogan the one who told the world how he couldn’t wait to get away from his villa nightmare?.............that’s awks !

Totes.

Do Stoke have to keep him til May as part of the deal or can they send him back and not pay any salary contributions (probably what...£10k of £40k a week?)?

[PeterWithesShin]

Depends on the contract, any clauses can be added. I'd guess that they can't send him back without our say so. Tough shit, me ducks.

[TheMalandro]

More chance of the shoe shop taking back Tony's shoes, if it's a season long loan.

[Ad@m]

he must have had ability at some stage yet he’s now surplus wherever he goes at whatever level,
he can only have himself to blame for that

Not necessarily.

He did very well for one season in a system that suited him. It's not his fault Bruce signed him with no clue how to get the best out of him.

I don't think he's as bad as Jordan Bowery for example, he's just incredibly one-dimensional and not Prem standard. But he's 27 now and needs to be playing regularly, which won't be for us.

[Risso]

He’s not even lower Championship standard any more by the looks of it.

[LukeJames]

I completely forgot he existed.

[john e]

he must have had ability at some stage yet he’s now surplus wherever he goes at whatever level,
he can only have himself to blame for that

Not necessarily.

He did very well for one season in a system that suited him. It's not his fault Bruce signed him with no clue how to get the best out of him.

I don't think he's as bad as Jordan Bowery for example, he's just incredibly one-dimensional and not Prem standard. But he's 27 now and needs to be playing regularly, which won't be for us.

Forgive me but I actually laughed out loud when you said ‘ I don’t think he’s as bad as Jordan Bowery for example’

[VILLA MOLE]

Bloody hell he should be in his prime now !

[Ad@m]

he must have had ability at some stage yet he’s now surplus wherever he goes at whatever level,
he can only have himself to blame for that

Not necessarily.

He did very well for one season in a system that suited him. It's not his fault Bruce signed him with no clue how to get the best out of him.

I don't think he's as bad as Jordan Bowery for example, he's just incredibly one-dimensional and not Prem standard. But he's 27 now and needs to be playing regularly, which won't be for us.

Forgive me but I actually laughed out loud when you said ‘ I don’t think he’s as bad as Jordan Bowery for example’

I know. That's setting a low bar but it just shows how terrible some of those lucky enough to pull on a Villa shirt have been over the past decade. Hogan isn't close to being the worst. He was lucky to get picked up by us and unlucky Bruce was the manager at the time.

[john e]

he must have had ability at some stage yet he’s now surplus wherever he goes at whatever level,
he can only have himself to blame for that

Not necessarily.

He did very well for one season in a system that suited him. It's not his fault Bruce signed him with no clue how to get the best out of him.

I don't think he's as bad as Jordan Bowery for example, he's just incredibly one-dimensional and not Prem standard. But he's 27 now and needs to be playing regularly, which won't be for us.

Forgive me but I actually laughed out loud when you said ‘ I don’t think he’s as bad as Jordan Bowery for example’

I know. That's setting a low bar but it just shows how terrible some of those lucky enough to pull on a Villa shirt have been over the past decade. Hogan isn't close to being the worst. He was lucky to get picked up by us and unlucky Bruce was the manager at the time.

i don't disagree with you
but i still think he has to take some responsibility for the way his career has gone
actually maybe more than just some

[Ad@m]

To be fair, he has.

He's on record as saying it went to his head when he signed for us and in combination with being played in a system which didn't play to his strengths he let things slip.