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Re: Conor Hourihane
« Reply #150 on: January 20, 2017, 02:40:27 PM »
We had the option to sign him in Jan, same as Manure had the option to recall him in Jan. Both were part of his loan agreement when he joined us. He was shit so he just remained on loan to us for the rest of the season.

We only had the option to buy if he would have agreed to signing, why else was the initial transfer changed to a loan AFTER he spoke with Everton?

I thought it was for a loan until the end of his contract anyway, then he just chose where to go and he chose Everton. Us or Everton wouldn't have paid £7m for a player who was out of contract a few months later.

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« Reply #151 on: January 20, 2017, 02:49:57 PM »
We had the option to sign him in Jan, same as Manure had the option to recall him in Jan. Both were part of his loan agreement when he joined us. He was shit so he just remained on loan to us for the rest of the season.

We only had the option to buy if he would have agreed to signing, why else was the initial transfer changed to a loan AFTER he spoke with Everton?

I thought it was for a loan until the end of his contract anyway, then he just chose where to go and he chose Everton. Us or Everton wouldn't have paid £7m for a player who was out of contract a few months later.

No.  A £7 million bid was accepted and Clevely agreed.  Then Everton came in, spoke with him and our permanent deal was changed to a loan deal.  The rest is history.

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Re: Conor Hourihane
« Reply #152 on: January 20, 2017, 02:51:55 PM »
Obviously we could only sign him if he wanted to sign permanently for us. The stuff in the summer had nothing to do with them making an agreement behind Manure's back. They couldn't afford the fee so he joined us on loan after messing us around. We didn't try and sign him in Jan, ultimately the messing about in the summer was to our favour as it turned out anyway.

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Re: Conor Hourihane
« Reply #153 on: January 20, 2017, 02:53:46 PM »
Would be good if Hourihan could get him signed on a pre nuptual agreement to come in the summer, then that would force Barnsleys hand a bit & reduce them playing hardball games

I don't see a problem with them trying to get as much money as they can. They don't have to agree to the deal we want.

We are going in all Theresa May on this one..

We are working hard for the best possible deal for the club, this will be a claret and blue Hourihanexit.

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Re: Conor Hourihane
« Reply #154 on: January 20, 2017, 02:54:34 PM »
Notwithstanding the ins and outs of the Cleverley deal, Kodj is right he could sign a pre-contract agreement with us.  That would leave Barnsley under no illusions of what will happen in the summer.  But to be honest I'm not sure how much it would assist and being based on a free transfer may make the agent greedier than the deal to move now.  Also, we want him now not in the summer.

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Re: Conor Hourihane
« Reply #155 on: January 20, 2017, 02:55:28 PM »
Would be good if Hourihan could get him signed on a pre nuptual agreement to come in the summer, then that would force Barnsleys hand a bit & reduce them playing hardball games

Well we'd be breaching all sorts of rules if we did that.

Not least the one about not getting married to another team's player.

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Re: Conor Hourihane
« Reply #156 on: January 20, 2017, 02:58:36 PM »
Notwithstanding the ins and outs of the Cleverley deal, Kodj is right he could sign a pre-contract agreement with us.  That would leave Barnsley under no illusions of what will happen in the summer.  But to be honest I'm not sure how much it would assist and being based on a free transfer may make the agent greedier than the deal to move now.  Also, we want him now not in the summer.

I agree with what someone else said earlier. £1m is nothing nowadays, they might as well keep him until his contract runs out (if that fee is correct).

My point was, if Barnsley are asking for a couple of million-ish, then I don't blame them.

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Re: Conor Hourihane
« Reply #157 on: January 20, 2017, 03:01:58 PM »
Bruce seems pretty sure this is a done deal. The boy wants to come so its just haggling over a fee, I presume.

If Bruce is saying that then I hope they've given us permission to speak to him.

O'Leary's idiocy over Beattie was bad enough, it would be ridiculous if we ended up getting done for that twice.
« Last Edit: January 20, 2017, 03:18:26 PM by Dave »

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Re: Conor Hourihane
« Reply #158 on: January 20, 2017, 03:04:50 PM »
I don't blame Barnsley for trying to get as much as they can, i'd expect any club to do that. I also expect them to sell as a million or two will be a notable amount for them.

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« Reply #159 on: January 20, 2017, 03:08:14 PM »
Notwithstanding the ins and outs of the Cleverley deal, Kodj is right he could sign a pre-contract agreement with us.  That would leave Barnsley under no illusions of what will happen in the summer.  But to be honest I'm not sure how much it would assist and being based on a free transfer may make the agent greedier than the deal to move now.  Also, we want him now not in the summer.

I agree with what someone else said earlier. £1m is nothing nowadays, they might as well keep him until his contract runs out (if that fee is correct).

My point was, if Barnsley are asking for a couple of million-ish, then I don't blame them.

Winnall went for 500k to local rivals sheff Wed. Heswas there  top striker and goal getter . However himself , houraine, Watkins and the youngster bree all have contract expiring in summer case of get what they can. But also poor to let several  have contracts run down . Bree may hold out till summer and none of them would command a big fee because of circumstance. 

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« Reply #160 on: January 20, 2017, 03:11:36 PM »
They'll also see us as a club who have already splashed out £50m. They'll try and squeeze as much out of us as they can.

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Re: Conor Hourihane
« Reply #161 on: January 20, 2017, 03:24:07 PM »
Notwithstanding the ins and outs of the Cleverley deal, Kodj is right he could sign a pre-contract agreement with us.  That would leave Barnsley under no illusions of what will happen in the summer.  But to be honest I'm not sure how much it would assist and being based on a free transfer may make the agent greedier than the deal to move now.  Also, we want him now not in the summer.

The danger there is that if he has a second half of the season that mirrors the first, the likes of Bournemouth or Newcastle (lets face it, they'll be back) might decide he is worth a gamble in the top flight.

Get this one over the line as soon as.

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« Reply #162 on: January 20, 2017, 03:29:11 PM »
They'll also see us as a club who have already splashed out £50m. They'll try and squeeze as much out of us as they can.

Barnsley are quite frankly a small time club out of depth and lucky to be even in championship.  I can name heaps of other clubs in league one bigger than them  milwall ,charlton ,sheff utd , bolton even coventry despite plight  and league 2 Portsmouth. Bradford are bigger too.

Likes of walsall crewe luton Doncaster Swindon Peterborough  are on par or bigger than them. And these clubs would welcome 1 to 3 million. 

Barnsley  A plucky cup team -Johnstone paint trophy winner merely a club who have to step on . Come on now Barnsley you're playing with the big boys just let the lad go!!!

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Re: Conor Hourihane
« Reply #163 on: January 20, 2017, 03:29:56 PM »
Notwithstanding the ins and outs of the Cleverley deal, Kodj is right he could sign a pre-contract agreement with us.  That would leave Barnsley under no illusions of what will happen in the summer.  But to be honest I'm not sure how much it would assist and being based on a free transfer may make the agent greedier than the deal to move now.  Also, we want him now not in the summer.

The danger there is that if he has a second half of the season that mirrors the first, the likes of Bournemouth or Newcastle (lets face it, they'll be back) might decide he is worth a gamble in the top flight.

Get this one over the line as soon as.

This.

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Re: Conor Hourihane
« Reply #164 on: January 20, 2017, 03:37:54 PM »
They'll also see us as a club who have already splashed out £50m. They'll try and squeeze as much out of us as they can.

Barnsley are quite frankly a small time club out of depth and lucky to be even in championship.  I can name heaps of other clubs in league one bigger than them  milwall ,charlton ,sheff utd , bolton even coventry despite plight  and league 2 Portsmouth. Bradford are bigger too.

Likes of walsall crewe luton Doncaster Swindon Peterborough  are on par or bigger than them. And these clubs would welcome 1 to 3 million. 

Barnsley  A plucky cup team -Johnstone paint trophy winner merely a club who have to step on . Come on now Barnsley you're playing with the big boys just let the lad go!!!

How would you feel if you read a Man U fan saying something similar when they were trying to sign our best player?

When we have paid £750k for a kid Orient let go last year and has only played 6 games since, I really hope we are not haggling over the odd few hundred k here.  Would have been nice to have him in the squad tomorrow.

 


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