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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Toronto Villa on January 19, 2017, 07:18:06 PM

Title: Conor Hourihane - good luck abroad
Post by: Toronto Villa on January 19, 2017, 07:18:06 PM
Seems like the Barnsley skipper is also set for a medical.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Can Gana Be Bettered!?!? on January 19, 2017, 07:23:23 PM
Who he?

Defender, midfielder or forward? Left, right, centre?
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: cheltenhamlion on January 19, 2017, 07:23:41 PM
Midfield.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Can Gana Be Bettered!?!? on January 19, 2017, 07:25:18 PM
Midfield.

That'll do for me!

Next question, what type? (Other than "good"). Defensive, attacking, bit of both?
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: frank black on January 19, 2017, 07:26:08 PM
Just the daily mail rumour so far, hold fire I guess.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Toronto Villa on January 19, 2017, 07:26:29 PM
In Lansbury and Hourihane we will have two midfielders who run a lot and like to get into the box and score goals. That sounds really quite foreign as a concept.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: cheltenhamlion on January 19, 2017, 07:27:41 PM
Midfield.

That'll do for me!

Next question, what type? (Other than "good"). Defensive, attacking, bit of both?

Playmaker with an eye for goal. Can take a set piece as well.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: russon on January 19, 2017, 07:28:43 PM
Forgive me if I curb my enthusiasm. We could train Messi at Bodymoor Heath for one week and turn him into Warren Aspinall.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Chris87 on January 19, 2017, 07:29:18 PM
Blimey, we might actually score a goal in January!
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Villan For Life on January 19, 2017, 07:30:26 PM
In Lansbury and Hourihane we will have two midfielders who run a lot and like to get into the box and score goals. That sounds really quite foreign as a concept.

I'm getting giddy with excitement at the prospect of bodies in the box! But what are these goals that you speak of?
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: footyskillz on January 19, 2017, 07:38:07 PM
Absolute cracking player!  Steal at 1 million !
Really good middle man plays well with aggression and offensive play.
Pros gets goals . Great footballing age . Creative.  Captain and versatile in middle.
Negative - aggression leads to yellow cards !

Really hope he signs and we 'll enjoy his play.
Think Fabian Delph/ Charlie Adam hybrid
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: KevinGage on January 19, 2017, 07:39:36 PM
Midfield.

That'll do for me!

Next question, what type? (Other than "good"). Defensive, attacking, bit of both?

Plays deep midfield -closer to defensive midfield, usually. But has more assists and goals than most attacking midfielders in this league.

Left footed, but I am sure I have seen him cutting in from the right to score some of his goals for Barnsley this season. Would be happier with this deal than the Lansbury one. But happy with both. Gardwood RIP.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: SirSteveUK on January 19, 2017, 07:40:03 PM
Absolute cracking player!  Steal at 1 million !
Really good middle man plays well with aggression and offensive play.
Pros gets goals . Great footballing age . Creative.  Captain and versatile in middle.
Negative - aggression leads to yellow cards !

Really hope he signs and we 'll enjoy his play.
Think Fabian Delph/ Charlie Adam hybrid

So we are signing an overweight snake ??
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Louzie0 on January 19, 2017, 07:40:57 PM
Absolute cracking player!  Steal at 1 million !
Really good middle man plays well with aggression and offensive play.
Pros gets goals . Great footballing age . Creative.  Captain and versatile in middle.
Negative - aggression leads to yellow cards !

Really hope he signs and we 'll enjoy his play.
Think Fabian Delph/ Charlie Adam hybrid

Looking forward to seeing him, you've sold me!
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Brend'Watkins on January 19, 2017, 07:41:43 PM
In Lansbury and Hourihane we will have two midfielders who run a lot and like to get into the box and score goals. That sounds really quite foreign as a concept.

What is this sorcery you speak of?
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: footyskillz on January 19, 2017, 07:42:41 PM
Absolute cracking player!  Steal at 1 million !
Really good middle man plays well with aggression and offensive play.
Pros gets goals . Great footballing age . Creative.  Captain and versatile in middle.
Negative - aggression leads to yellow cards !

Really hope he signs and we 'll enjoy his play.
Think Fabian Delph/ Charlie Adam hybrid

Looking forward to seeing him, you've sold me!
Faster than Adam- aren't we all ! Slower than Delphi! (When he's not injured )
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: russon on January 19, 2017, 07:42:43 PM
Absolute cracking player!  Steal at 1 million !
Really good middle man plays well with aggression and offensive play.
Pros gets goals . Great footballing age . Creative.  Captain and versatile in middle.
Negative - aggression leads to yellow cards !

Really hope he signs and we 'll enjoy his play.
Think Fabian Delph/ Charlie Adam hybrid
Is he as good as the last half dozen 'steals' that we've achieved? Will he be an improvement on the midfield general combo Gardner and Westwood or is that asking a bit much?
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Can Gana Be Bettered!?!? on January 19, 2017, 07:44:27 PM
Forgive me if I curb my enthusiasm. We could train Messi at Bodymoor Heath for one week and turn him into Warren Aspinall.

Ha! Yeah, we turned McCormack from (one of) the best players in the last 5 years in the Championship to somebody who looks like he wouldn't get in a Sunday league side. And all in a few months.

Say what you like about us, but we can ruin a player better and faster than any other team!
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: cdbullyweefan on January 19, 2017, 07:45:12 PM
Get him in. Sounds good to me.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: footyskillz on January 19, 2017, 07:47:20 PM
I say he's an upgrade. For sure. Needs again to be deployed in correct position despite versatile not a touch line wide player effective centrally
However I hold out hope for Gardner. I always like a local/come up thru the ranks. It's annoying even if they aren't the best. I perhaps romaticallly feel players are inclined to feel a bit more. Hmm gabby!
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: russon on January 19, 2017, 07:50:23 PM
I always like a local/come up thru the ranks. It's annoying even if they aren't the best. I perhaps romaticallly feel players are inclined to feel a bit more. Hmm gabby!
That's where Gabby went wrong, he thought you said feed not feel.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: KevinGage on January 19, 2017, 07:57:27 PM
Romantically nourished by KFC instead of AVFC.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: cdbullyweefan on January 19, 2017, 07:58:55 PM
Hopefully we can get Angela and Hot Lips in before the next game.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Risso on January 19, 2017, 08:02:01 PM
Blimey, we might actually score a goal in January!

Steady!  I find it's overblown optimism like that that leads to the biggest disappointments.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: andyh on January 19, 2017, 08:03:44 PM
What we need in the middle if the park players who have a big of arrogance, a bit of swagger.

I don't mean they need to be bad people, but we need players who believe they are better than the opposition, who KNOW, they are better than the opposition and want to show it.

Houlihane and Landsbury look like they fit the bill.

Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Nelly on January 19, 2017, 08:04:18 PM
A couple of goals, maybe the odd assist and some solid performances and he'll be next favourite Villa player. Sign up and be a hero, sir!
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: The Edge on January 19, 2017, 08:07:11 PM
Absolute cracking player!  Steal at 1 million !
Really good middle man plays well with aggression and offensive play.
Pros gets goals . Great footballing age . Creative.  Captain and versatile in middle.
Negative - aggression leads to yellow cards !

Really hope he signs and we 'll enjoy his play.
Think Fabian Delph/ Charlie Adam hybrid

So we are signing an overweight snake ??
Lol that made me chuckle!
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: oswald funkletrumpet on January 19, 2017, 08:13:28 PM
For the money looks a bargain

fuck me roll on saturday and a proper midfield
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: UK Redsox on January 19, 2017, 08:13:43 PM
Hopefully we can get Angela and Hot Lips in before the next game.

What other potential signings are on the Radar ?
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: oswald funkletrumpet on January 19, 2017, 08:16:26 PM
Hopefully we can get Angela and Hot Lips in before the next game.

What other potential signings are on the Radar ?

Ill keep a hawkeye out
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: four fornicholl on January 19, 2017, 08:17:20 PM
For the money looks a bargain

fuck me roll on saturday and a proper midfield
The proper midfield will, unfortunately, all be in suits, and about thirty years too old.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: sirlordbaltimore on January 19, 2017, 08:18:13 PM


He, along with Bree (or any other right back) are the ones i really want. So until i see them in the shirt i'm not believing any tittle tattle on twatter
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Yossarian on January 19, 2017, 08:18:26 PM
How do you say his surname?
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: frank black on January 19, 2017, 08:19:50 PM
Who rah haine
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: ozzjim on January 19, 2017, 08:21:53 PM
Hourihane is the one I really wanted us to get.  Clips I have seen he looks a really good player.  Really hope it's true.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: andyh on January 19, 2017, 08:23:05 PM
Hopefully we can get Angela and Hot Lips in before the next game.

What other potential signings are on the Radar ?

Ill keep a hawkeye out
Once they are in we'll start to sMASH teams.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: BOB MANSFIELD on January 19, 2017, 08:24:10 PM
Good Morning Villa Park !
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: BOB MANSFIELD on January 19, 2017, 08:25:52 PM
Hourihane is the one I really wanted us to get.  Clips I have seen he looks a really good player.  Really hope it's true.
I really hope we haven't mis-spelled his name and gone after (Wes) Houlihan again, again, again........
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: VancouverLion on January 19, 2017, 08:29:14 PM
Notched 26 goals in two seasons at Barnsley, I' ll have some of that!

if we can get him & Lansbury signed tomorrow, thinks its too early to throw them both in Saturday without having trained with the team?

Think I would!

Tremendous signings that will massively improve us.

Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: oswald funkletrumpet on January 19, 2017, 08:29:37 PM
Hopefully we can get Angela and Hot Lips in before the next game.

What other potential signings are on the Radar ?

Ill keep a hawkeye out
Once they are in we'll start to sMASH teams.

Im going to clinger on to that thought
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: pauliewalnuts on January 19, 2017, 08:33:24 PM
#You are like a Hourihane, there's calm in your eye#
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: eamonn on January 19, 2017, 08:34:39 PM
Who rah haine

Hoo-ra-han. 

Similar to Wes from Norwich we nearly signed (swap the la for ra).

His first name in Irish is a doozy.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Percy McCarthy on January 19, 2017, 08:34:48 PM
Notched 26 goals in two seasons at Barnsley, I' ll have some of that!

if we can get him & Lansbury signed tomorrow, thinks its too early to throw them both in Saturday without having trained with the team?



Yeah, two in side is painless.

(Sorry, I didn't watch it much and felt left out).
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: john e on January 19, 2017, 08:38:03 PM
Notched 26 goals in two seasons at Barnsley, I' ll have some of that!

if we can get him & Lansbury signed tomorrow, thinks its too early to throw them both in Saturday without having trained with the team?

Think I would!

Tremendous signings that will massively improve us.



the only drawback I can see is that it might disrupt the delicate balance of of strength, skills and energy that we have going on at the moment
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: olaftab on January 19, 2017, 08:42:33 PM
Notched 26 goals in two seasons at Barnsley, I' ll have some of that!

if we can get him & Lansbury signed tomorrow, thinks its too early to throw them both in Saturday without having trained with the team?

Think I would!

Tremendous signings that will massively improve us.
the only drawback I can see is that it might disrupt the delicate balance of of strength, skills and energy that we have going on at the moment
Thats my worry as well. It's like signing Gerrard when you already have Xavi , Iniesta and Lampard in your midfield.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Richard E on January 19, 2017, 08:43:01 PM
Notched 26 goals in two seasons at Barnsley, I' ll have some of that!

if we can get him & Lansbury signed tomorrow, thinks its too early to throw them both in Saturday without having trained with the team?

Think I would!

Tremendous signings that will massively improve us.



the only drawback I can see is that it might disrupt the delicate balance of of strength, skills and energy that we have going on at the moment
Quite. And can he point?
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: olaftab on January 19, 2017, 08:45:10 PM
Midfield.

That'll do for me!

Next question, what type? (Other than "good"). Defensive, attacking, bit of both?
In future CGBB can you write down all your questions and ask them in one post please.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: remy on January 19, 2017, 08:45:51 PM
If he manages to dribble forward a few yards, look up and cross, even pop a corner into the box - I will suck him off.

Because years of shite midfields.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: BOB MANSFIELD on January 19, 2017, 08:48:43 PM
Don't hold your breath ( or anything else )......that's what he does for Barnsley, it is yet to be proven if he would lose that ability during the signing-on process, like the rest of 'em.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: oswald funkletrumpet on January 19, 2017, 08:49:31 PM
If he manages to dribble forward a few yards, look up and cross, even pop a corner into the box - I will suck him off.

Because years of shite midfields.

Jesus its the cock lollipop all over again
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: olaftab on January 19, 2017, 08:50:52 PM
I think we should make him aware of that offer from remy. We need all the help we can get.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Dave on January 19, 2017, 08:51:35 PM
#You are like a Hourihane, there's calm in your eye#

"This is the story of Hourihane. Replacing the man who everyone blames..."
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: PeterWithe on January 19, 2017, 08:52:59 PM
Never heard of him. Good luck.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: BOB MANSFIELD on January 19, 2017, 08:53:12 PM
Westwood Ho...........get on yer horse and get out of town !
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Can Gana Be Bettered!?!? on January 19, 2017, 08:55:09 PM
Midfield.

That'll do for me!

Next question, what type? (Other than "good"). Defensive, attacking, bit of both?
In future CGBB can you write down all your questions and ask them in one post please.
Why?
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: supertom on January 19, 2017, 08:55:13 PM
Jedinak sitting, with Hourinane and Angela either side. That's a proper midfield.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Can Gana Be Bettered!?!? on January 19, 2017, 08:55:34 PM
Midfield.

That'll do for me!

Next question, what type? (Other than "good"). Defensive, attacking, bit of both?
In future CGBB can you write down all your questions and ask them in one post please.

Does it matter?
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Can Gana Be Bettered!?!? on January 19, 2017, 08:56:57 PM
Midfield.

That'll do for me!

Next question, what type? (Other than "good"). Defensive, attacking, bit of both?
In future CGBB can you write down all your questions and ask them in one post please.

I was hoping for a little more info from my first question. Is that ok?
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: olaftab on January 19, 2017, 08:57:22 PM
It was just a light hearted remark mate.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Louzie0 on January 19, 2017, 08:57:44 PM
Midfield.

That'll do for me!

Next question, what type? (Other than "good"). Defensive, attacking, bit of both?
In future CGBB can you write down all your questions and ask them in one post please.
Why?
Olaftab has an app.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Can Gana Be Bettered!?!? on January 19, 2017, 08:57:55 PM
Midfield.

That'll do for me!

Next question, what type? (Other than "good"). Defensive, attacking, bit of both?
In future CGBB can you write down all your questions and ask them in one post please.

I apologise for wanting to find out more. Will you accept my apology?
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Ger Regan on January 19, 2017, 08:58:51 PM
Ok we get the joke, you might stop now, please.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: olaftab on January 19, 2017, 08:59:18 PM
Oh I see what you done there CGBB. Nice!
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: BOB MANSFIELD on January 19, 2017, 09:00:33 PM
Jedinak sitting, with Hourinane and Angela either side. That's a proper midfield.
Jedi-nak will really know the Force is with him then.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: villabear on January 19, 2017, 09:03:05 PM
If he manages to dribble forward a few yards, look up and cross, even pop a corner into the box - I will suck him off.

Because years of shite midfields.

Years of shite midfields - I have to agree.

The sucking him off bit - it'll have to be a no from me. A firm handshake perhaps? (fnar fnar)
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: olaftab on January 19, 2017, 09:05:27 PM
Jedinak sitting, with Hourinane and Angela either side. That's a proper midfield.
Jedi-nak will really know the Force is with him then.
I am hoping Jedinak will never play for us again.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: BOB MANSFIELD on January 19, 2017, 09:13:27 PM
I am sure his pace and speed of reaction - and maybe even his heading - would be improved if he got that stupid beard shaved off. It must weigh him down......and doesn't help with his pointing ability either.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: ozzjim on January 19, 2017, 09:15:53 PM
We will need Jedinak to sit in but he will look a different player with Hourihane and Lansbury with him.  Just watched a YouTube of Hourihane this season.  He's got a bloody brilliant left foot and is a really good size. Barnsley have scored some cracking goals.  Oh and he destroyed the Blues. Takes a corner too.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: BOB MANSFIELD on January 19, 2017, 09:26:54 PM
Not one of them floaty, pointy ones, then ? Sounds all too good to be true.

Let's hope none of these not-yet-signed signings suffers a deLaet...or we will be disappointed, won't we ?
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: JUAN PABLO on January 19, 2017, 09:27:45 PM
We will need Jedinak to sit in but he will look a different player with Hourihane and Lansbury with him.  Just watched a YouTube of Hourihane this season.  He's got a bloody brilliant left foot and is a really good size. Barnsley have scored some cracking goals.  Oh and he destroyed the Blues. Takes a corner too.

Jedinak looked good along the likes of Cabaye and the average Ledley/mcarthy and zaha , these players are  better than pointy and GG .

So jedi will improve with these new players.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: BOB MANSFIELD on January 19, 2017, 09:30:53 PM
Are we getting Ledley, McArfa and Wilf as well then? Wowser!
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: SashasGrandad on January 19, 2017, 09:35:20 PM
Hopefully we can get Angela and Hot Lips in before the next game.

What other potential signings are on the Radar ?

Ill keep a hawkeye out
Once they are in we'll start to sMASH teams.

Im going to clinger on to that thought

We'll have so much pace it will give us major Burns

If it doesn't work out - at least Suicide is painless!
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Mister E on January 19, 2017, 09:50:11 PM
Jedinak sitting, with Hourinane and Angela either side. That's a proper midfield.
I'd prefer the Jedi to be standing up, if you don't mind.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: footyskillz on January 19, 2017, 09:51:08 PM
If he manages to dribble forward a few yards, look up and cross, even pop a corner into the box - I will suck him off.

Because years of shite midfields.

Years of shite midfields - I have to agree.

The sucking him off bit - it'll have to be a no from me. A firm handshake perhaps? (fnar fnar)

How about a little .Just the tip  A nice tease ! Presuming he brings us pleasure he can have same. I know we are all holding our hearts to make sweet love to Dr Tony
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Mister E on January 19, 2017, 09:52:24 PM
If he manages to dribble forward a few yards, look up and cross, even pop a corner into the box - I will suck him off.

Because years of shite midfields.

Years of shite midfields - I have to agree.

The sucking him off bit - it'll have to be a no from me. A firm handshake perhaps? (fnar fnar)
You're no Hotlips, then?
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: john e on January 19, 2017, 09:57:41 PM
We will need Jedinak to sit in but he will look a different player with Hourihane and Lansbury with him.  Just watched a YouTube of Hourihane this season.  He's got a bloody brilliant left foot and is a really good size. Barnsley have scored some cracking goals.  Oh and he destroyed the Blues. Takes a corner too.

I saw a clip on Tv of some of the goals Gestede scored for us when we sold him to Boro
if I hadn't have known anything about him and that was all I was going on I'd have thought he was the new Marco Van Basten

Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: bobdylan on January 19, 2017, 09:58:38 PM
Surely Tish is more mobile than Jedi and would be better in there.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Axl Rose on January 19, 2017, 10:17:15 PM
If he manages to dribble forward a few yards, look up and cross, even pop a corner into the box - I will suck him off.

Because years of shite midfields.

Years of shite midfields - I have to agree.

The sucking him off bit - it'll have to be a no from me. A firm handshake perhaps? (fnar fnar)

How about a little .Just the tip  A nice tease ! Presuming he brings us pleasure he can have same. I know we are all holding our hearts to make sweet love to Dr Tony

Haha. You've made me chuckle there, footy
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: TheMalandro on January 19, 2017, 10:28:11 PM
If he manages to dribble forward a few yards, look up and cross, even pop a corner into the box - I will suck him off.

Because years of shite midfields.

Years of shite midfields - I have to agree.

The sucking him off bit - it'll have to be a no from me. A firm handshake perhaps? (fnar fnar)

How about a little .Just the tip  A nice tease ! Presuming he brings us pleasure he can have same. I know we are all holding our hearts to make sweet love to Dr Tony

Where do you live footyskillz?
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: olaftab on January 19, 2017, 11:00:20 PM
THIS IS NOT A CRUISING SITE FOLKS.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: footyskillz on January 19, 2017, 11:05:45 PM
Sorry !
Ok no more.   Well one more
North London

Man crush-
But would you rather Henri or Conor??
I'm lansbury he's like a male gemma lucy without the essentials
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: footyskillz on January 19, 2017, 11:10:27 PM
Midfield.

That'll do for me!

Next question, what type? (Other than "good"). Defensive, attacking, bit of both?
In future CGBB can you write down all your questions and ask them in one post please.

Does it matter?

Do what you like i say pal!
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Axl Rose on January 19, 2017, 11:17:52 PM
Midfield.

That'll do for me!

Next question, what type? (Other than "good"). Defensive, attacking, bit of both?
In future CGBB can you write down all your questions and ask them in one post please.

Does it matter?

Do what you like i say pal!

Does that extend to rare flavoured lollipop jokes, too?
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: OCD on January 19, 2017, 11:27:28 PM
I wonder what the chances are of Westwood going to Wolves if we get these 2 deals over the line.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: remy on January 19, 2017, 11:40:34 PM
I wonder what the chances are of Westwood going to Wolves if we get these 2 deals over the line.

It's a Yay! When we make a new signing. When this waster Westwood leaves it will give me the same feeling. And when Dracula goes...oh and flabby too!
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: ozzjim on January 20, 2017, 12:08:07 AM
I really would not be suprised if once we have signed a couple of midfielders a couple leave and another arrives before the deadline.  I wouldnt be shocked if a bid came to take Jedinak back to Palace either.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Dave on January 20, 2017, 12:08:20 AM
he's like a male gemma lucy without the essentials

There is literally no part of this sentence that I understand.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: cdbullyweefan on January 20, 2017, 12:09:30 AM
It would help if I knew who Gemma Lucy was. Or perhaps it wouldn't.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: FatSam on January 20, 2017, 12:36:37 AM
It would help if I knew who Gemma Lucy was. Or perhaps it wouldn't.

I had never heard of her, but thanks to Google, I'm enchanted.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: DeKuip on January 20, 2017, 01:06:51 AM
So we're adding the Barnsley and Forest captains to the Fulham, Bournemouth and Palace captains we signed in the summer.
Time to use Skip Hire to get rid of some rubbish now.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: ozzjim on January 20, 2017, 06:57:46 AM
Is there anything concrete on Hourihane?
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Villafirst on January 20, 2017, 07:24:51 AM
Is there anything concrete on Hourihane?

Villa are trying to cement the deal....
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: VILLA MOLE on January 20, 2017, 07:30:09 AM
THIS IS NOT A CRUISING SITE FOLKS.

oh bye then  :(
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: TheMalandro on January 20, 2017, 07:41:46 AM
THIS IS NOT A CRUISING SITE FOLKS.

oh bye then  :(

Sail away
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: oswald funkletrumpet on January 20, 2017, 07:51:40 AM
Is there anything concrete on Hourihane?

Villa are trying to cement the deal....

It will be plastered everywhere
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: PeterWithe on January 20, 2017, 08:10:59 AM
So we're adding the Barnsley and Forest captains to the Fulham, Bournemouth and Palace captains we signed in the summer.

Well it's worked well so far.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: mattjpa on January 20, 2017, 08:43:12 AM
Sorry !
Ok no more.   Well one more
North London

Man crush-
But would you rather Henri or Conor??
I'm lansbury he's like a male gemma lucy without the essentials

Making fun of gay people is not cool footy. You need to remember there are people on here who may fancy Lansbury with all of his essentials who could be offended by that ;) arf.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: mattjpa on January 20, 2017, 08:45:03 AM
Only jesting. I love a good dick joke...
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: eamonn on January 20, 2017, 08:49:27 AM
It was a bold  move to author double-threads on speculative signings but TV is trustworthy.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: SashasGrandad on January 20, 2017, 09:35:38 AM
Is there anything concrete on Hourihane?

Villa are trying to cement the deal....

It will be plastered everywhere

all over the cracks
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Richard E on January 20, 2017, 09:49:25 AM
He is a sweet and tender Hourihane
Houirhane
And he's gonna score for Villa again
And of course he will
And again the next time
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: in exile on January 20, 2017, 10:03:10 AM
He is a sweet and tender Hourihane
Houirhane
And he's gonna score for Villa again
And of course he will
And again the next time

WTF?
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: footyskillz on January 20, 2017, 10:05:00 AM
Is there anything concrete on Hourihane?

Villa are trying to cement the deal....

It will be plastered everywhere

all over the cracks

Gets up in between cracks ready to explode with a shot
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: UK Redsox on January 20, 2017, 10:08:09 AM
How do we pronounce Hourihane anyway ?

Is it "Hour" or "Who" and is it "Han" or "Haine" ?
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: mr underhill on January 20, 2017, 10:08:21 AM
Skills can the overt references to homo erotica stop please? It's putting me off my sausage batch
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Hookeysmith on January 20, 2017, 10:08:41 AM
Only jesting. I love a good dick joke

edited
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: chrisw1 on January 20, 2017, 10:11:55 AM
It would help if I knew who Gemma Lucy was. Or perhaps it wouldn't.

I had never heard of her, but thanks to Google, I'm enchanted.
I think the panther on her chest was a mistake.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: PaulTheVillan on January 20, 2017, 10:53:44 AM
I'm glad we're signing a couple of other clubs captains.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: eamonn on January 20, 2017, 11:00:32 AM
How do we pronounce Hourihane anyway ?

Is it "Hour" or "Who" and is it "Han" or "Haine" ?

The latter and the former respectively. No links to Luke that we know of.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Brend'Watkins on January 20, 2017, 11:06:17 AM
How do we pronounce Hourihane anyway ?

Is it "Hour" or "Who" and is it "Han" or "Haine" ?

The latter and the former respectively. No links to Luke that we know of.

So basically we drop the 'i' and in Brummie speak it becomes How-erh-ain
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Toronto Villa on January 20, 2017, 11:09:11 AM
Pat Murphy claiming that this is done for £2.75m and we hope to see Hourihane deal close to being agreed with Barnsley later today.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: oswald funkletrumpet on January 20, 2017, 11:11:33 AM
I wonder what the chances are of Westwood going to Wolves if we get these 2 deals over the line.

That happening would be worthy of a daisy chain of epic proportions
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Small Rodent on January 20, 2017, 11:24:54 AM
I wonder what the chances are of Westwood going to Wolves if we get these 2 deals over the line.

That happening would be worthy of a daisy chain of epic proportions

Ha ha!
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: UK Redsox on January 20, 2017, 11:33:13 AM
How do we pronounce Hourihane anyway ?

Is it "Hour" or "Who" and is it "Han" or "Haine" ?

The latter and the former respectively. No links to Luke that we know of.

I was thinking more in terms of a Scorpions "Rock You Like a Hourihane" song.

I doubt that even the Holte End could could cope with a Luke based chant.


....... having said that "Unsolved Mid-Fielder" could work ;)
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: DB on January 20, 2017, 11:54:29 AM
Oh balls. Thanks UK Redsox, got it stuck in my head now.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on January 20, 2017, 12:08:38 PM
How do we pronounce Hourihane anyway ?

Is it "Hour" or "Who" and is it "Han" or "Haine" ?

I've been pronouncing it "Hoo-ree-han".

Still hoping we can sign Wes Hoolahan, so that we can have an Irish midfield pairing or Hoolahan and Hourihane.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: cdbullyweefan on January 20, 2017, 12:21:27 PM
How do we pronounce Hourihane anyway ?

CO-NOR.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: footyskillz on January 20, 2017, 12:23:44 PM
How do we pronounce Hourihane anyway ?

CO-NOR.
Epic ! Hahaha !!
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: cdbullyweefan on January 20, 2017, 12:24:20 PM
Worryingly, I see his first name causing Kieran Clarke-style problems.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Sexual Ealing on January 20, 2017, 12:25:32 PM
Worryingly, I see his first name causing Kieran Clarke-style problems.

Nah, we've turned a corner.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: el leůn Benidorm on January 20, 2017, 12:25:37 PM
How do we pronounce Hourihane anyway ?

CO-NOR.

Spelt Wrong -CONNOR!

Just ask my boy
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: footyskillz on January 20, 2017, 12:29:07 PM
Thinking about it Jemma lucy lansbury and Conor Hooray Hollywood  houraine when combined together in a melting pot at dr Tony lab you would have this ufc combo-
Jemma Lucy lansbury -tatto and beard
Hooray Hollywood Houraine- Irish accent and breed
Both tough aggression!
Equals=Connor McGregor!
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: CT on January 20, 2017, 12:49:13 PM
Thinking about it Jemma lucy lansbury and Conor Hooray Hollywood  houraine when combined together in a melting pot at dr Tony lab you would have this ufc combo-
Jemma Lucy lansbury -tatto and beard
Hooray Hollywood Houraine- Irish accent and breed
Both tough aggression!
Equals=Connor McGregor!

You are Ted Rogers. 3-2-1!
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Joshua Fineman on January 20, 2017, 12:50:43 PM
https://twitter.com/playmaker_EN/status/822405853097508864

This is quite fun...
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: UK Redsox on January 20, 2017, 12:52:06 PM
https://twitter.com/playmaker_EN/status/822405853097508864

This is quite fun...

Have Villa as a club been involved in 8 goals in the last two months ?
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Marlon From Bearwood on January 20, 2017, 12:58:55 PM
Pat Murphy saying we haven't actually bid yet. We're in for him but there's work to do yet.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: cdbullyweefan on January 20, 2017, 12:59:36 PM
https://twitter.com/playmaker_EN/status/822405853097508864

This is quite fun...

Have Villa as a club been involved in 8 goals in the last two months ?

Our defence have been involved in loads of goals.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Bad English on January 20, 2017, 01:02:13 PM
Arf!
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: chrisw1 on January 20, 2017, 01:04:30 PM
Pat Murphy saying we haven't actually bid yet. We're in for him but there's work to do yet.
FFS!
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Phil from the upper holte on January 20, 2017, 01:06:17 PM
Pat Murphy saying we haven't actually bid yet. We're in for him but there's work to do yet.
FFS!

Barnsley playing hardball but he wants to come apparently
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Clampy on January 20, 2017, 01:14:41 PM
The way Bruce was talking earlier, they were waiting for Barnsley to come back to them so i'd be surprised if a bid hasn't gone in.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: KevinGage on January 20, 2017, 01:22:42 PM
Pat Murphy claiming that this is done for £2.75m and we hope to see Hourihane deal close to being agreed with Barnsley later today.

Hourihah!

The big knobs have gone round the table and yanked the iron out of the fire.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: VILLA MOLE on January 20, 2017, 01:23:17 PM
Pat Murphy claiming that this is done for £2.75m and we hope to see Hourihane deal close to being agreed with Barnsley later today.

Hourihah!

The big knobs have gone round the table and yanked the iron out of the fire.

Blackadder ?
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Bottom Right 89 on January 20, 2017, 01:27:08 PM
Pat Murphy saying we haven't actually bid yet. We're in for him but there's work to do yet.
FFS!

Barnsley playing hardball but he wants to come apparently
FFS just despatch a squad of troops and burn their village.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Confusious says on January 20, 2017, 01:43:09 PM
Would be good if Hourihan could get him signed on a pre nuptual agreement to come in the summer, then that would force Barnsleys hand a bit & reduce them playing hardball games
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: PaulWinch again on January 20, 2017, 01:44:10 PM
Would be good if Hourihan could get him signed on a pre nuptual agreement to come in the summer, then that would force Barnsleys hand a bit & reduce them playing hardball games

Well we'd be breaching all sorts of rules if we did that.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Old Kodjia on January 20, 2017, 01:46:58 PM
Would be good if Hourihan could get him signed on a pre nuptual agreement to come in the summer, then that would force Barnsleys hand a bit & reduce them playing hardball games

Well we'd be breaching all sorts of rules if we did that.

I'd be heartbroken
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Tony Daleys Shorts on January 20, 2017, 01:47:20 PM
Pat Murphy claiming that this is done for £2.75m and we hope to see Hourihane deal close to being agreed with Barnsley later today.

Hourihah!

The big knobs have gone round the table and yanked the iron out of the fire.

Blackadder ?

'Oh we've survived it! The Great War 1914 to 1917...'
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Clampy on January 20, 2017, 02:01:42 PM
Would be good if Hourihan could get him signed on a pre nuptual agreement to come in the summer, then that would force Barnsleys hand a bit & reduce them playing hardball games

I don't see a problem with them trying to get as much money as they can. They don't have to agree to the deal we want.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Old Kodjia on January 20, 2017, 02:04:35 PM
Would be good if Hourihan could get him signed on a pre nuptual agreement to come in the summer, then that would force Barnsleys hand a bit & reduce them playing hardball games

I don't see a problem with them trying to get as much money as they can. They don't have to agree to the deal we want.

Likewise, I don't see a problem with us agreeing something with the player.  Nobody raised any questions when Everton did it to us over Cleverly.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: PeterWithesShin on January 20, 2017, 02:06:25 PM
Would be good if Hourihan could get him signed on a pre nuptual agreement to come in the summer, then that would force Barnsleys hand a bit & reduce them playing hardball games

I don't see a problem with them trying to get as much money as they can. They don't have to agree to the deal we want.

Likewise, I don't see a problem with us agreeing something with the player.  Nobody raised any questions when Everton did it to us over Cleverly.

And with good reason, otherwise we may have been stuck with him.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Clampy on January 20, 2017, 02:09:37 PM
Would be good if Hourihan could get him signed on a pre nuptual agreement to come in the summer, then that would force Barnsleys hand a bit & reduce them playing hardball games

I don't see a problem with them trying to get as much money as they can. They don't have to agree to the deal we want.

Likewise, I don't see a problem with us agreeing something with the player.  Nobody raised any questions when Everton did it to us over Cleverly.

Cleverley wasn't our player though.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Old Kodjia on January 20, 2017, 02:14:46 PM
Would be good if Hourihan could get him signed on a pre nuptual agreement to come in the summer, then that would force Barnsleys hand a bit & reduce them playing hardball games

I don't see a problem with them trying to get as much money as they can. They don't have to agree to the deal we want.

Likewise, I don't see a problem with us agreeing something with the player.  Nobody raised any questions when Everton did it to us over Cleverly.

Cleverley wasn't our player though.

OK they did it to MU then,
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: chrisw1 on January 20, 2017, 02:16:27 PM
Would be good if Hourihan could get him signed on a pre nuptual agreement to come in the summer, then that would force Barnsleys hand a bit & reduce them playing hardball games

I don't see a problem with them trying to get as much money as they can. They don't have to agree to the deal we want.
And if we've paid £3m for Forrest's captain I can understand why Barnsley may think £1m for theirs is a bit derisory (if the numbers being mentioned are true)
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Clampy on January 20, 2017, 02:17:27 PM
Would be good if Hourihan could get him signed on a pre nuptual agreement to come in the summer, then that would force Barnsleys hand a bit & reduce them playing hardball games

I don't see a problem with them trying to get as much money as they can. They don't have to agree to the deal we want.

Likewise, I don't see a problem with us agreeing something with the player.  Nobody raised any questions when Everton did it to us over Cleverly.

Cleverley wasn't our player though.

OK they did it to MU then,

I'm not sure what you mean.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Old Kodjia on January 20, 2017, 02:20:52 PM
Would be good if Hourihan could get him signed on a pre nuptual agreement to come in the summer, then that would force Barnsleys hand a bit & reduce them playing hardball games

I don't see a problem with them trying to get as much money as they can. They don't have to agree to the deal we want.
And if we've paid £3m for Forrest's captain I can understand why Barnsley may think £1m for theirs is a bit derisory (if the numbers being mentioned are true)

There are all sorts of figures being bandied about.  Last week it was 1 million, accepted from Sheffield Wednesday.  If this is true, why should we be held to ransom just because of what we paid for someone else?

There was also the interesting comment from the Dr last week that clubs are stalling, to enable them to play the players for as long as possible.  This has to refer to Barnsley as Lansbury didn't play, likewise Rhodes.  It will be interesting to see Barnsleys team tomorrow.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Old Kodjia on January 20, 2017, 02:25:58 PM
Would be good if Hourihan could get him signed on a pre nuptual agreement to come in the summer, then that would force Barnsleys hand a bit & reduce them playing hardball games

I don't see a problem with them trying to get as much money as they can. They don't have to agree to the deal we want.

Likewise, I don't see a problem with us agreeing something with the player.  Nobody raised any questions when Everton did it to us over Cleverly.

Cleverley wasn't our player though.

OK they did it to MU then,

I'm not sure what you mean.

Cleverly agreed to join us for £7 million.  Everton came in and they agreed to sign him at the end of his contract.  We ended up loaning him for £1 million or something and he left for free 9 months later.  MU lost out on the fee because Everton tapped  him.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: PeterWithesShin on January 20, 2017, 02:31:03 PM
We had the option to sign him in Jan, same as Manure had the option to recall him in Jan. Both were part of his loan agreement when he joined us. He was shit so he just remained on loan to us for the rest of the season.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: mr underhill on January 20, 2017, 02:35:59 PM
Bruce seems pretty sure this is a done deal. The boy wants to come so its just haggling over a fee, I presume.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Old Kodjia on January 20, 2017, 02:37:10 PM
We had the option to sign him in Jan, same as Manure had the option to recall him in Jan. Both were part of his loan agreement when he joined us. He was shit so he just remained on loan to us for the rest of the season.

We only had the option to buy if he would have agreed to signing, why else was the initial transfer changed to a loan AFTER he spoke with Everton?
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Clampy on January 20, 2017, 02:40:27 PM
We had the option to sign him in Jan, same as Manure had the option to recall him in Jan. Both were part of his loan agreement when he joined us. He was shit so he just remained on loan to us for the rest of the season.

We only had the option to buy if he would have agreed to signing, why else was the initial transfer changed to a loan AFTER he spoke with Everton?

I thought it was for a loan until the end of his contract anyway, then he just chose where to go and he chose Everton. Us or Everton wouldn't have paid £7m for a player who was out of contract a few months later.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Old Kodjia on January 20, 2017, 02:49:57 PM
We had the option to sign him in Jan, same as Manure had the option to recall him in Jan. Both were part of his loan agreement when he joined us. He was shit so he just remained on loan to us for the rest of the season.

We only had the option to buy if he would have agreed to signing, why else was the initial transfer changed to a loan AFTER he spoke with Everton?

I thought it was for a loan until the end of his contract anyway, then he just chose where to go and he chose Everton. Us or Everton wouldn't have paid £7m for a player who was out of contract a few months later.

No.  A £7 million bid was accepted and Clevely agreed.  Then Everton came in, spoke with him and our permanent deal was changed to a loan deal.  The rest is history.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: PeterWithesShin on January 20, 2017, 02:51:55 PM
Obviously we could only sign him if he wanted to sign permanently for us. The stuff in the summer had nothing to do with them making an agreement behind Manure's back. They couldn't afford the fee so he joined us on loan after messing us around. We didn't try and sign him in Jan, ultimately the messing about in the summer was to our favour as it turned out anyway.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Brend'Watkins on January 20, 2017, 02:53:46 PM
Would be good if Hourihan could get him signed on a pre nuptual agreement to come in the summer, then that would force Barnsleys hand a bit & reduce them playing hardball games

I don't see a problem with them trying to get as much money as they can. They don't have to agree to the deal we want.

We are going in all Theresa May on this one..

We are working hard for the best possible deal for the club, this will be a claret and blue Hourihanexit.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: chrisw1 on January 20, 2017, 02:54:34 PM
Notwithstanding the ins and outs of the Cleverley deal, Kodj is right he could sign a pre-contract agreement with us.  That would leave Barnsley under no illusions of what will happen in the summer.  But to be honest I'm not sure how much it would assist and being based on a free transfer may make the agent greedier than the deal to move now.  Also, we want him now not in the summer.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Dave on January 20, 2017, 02:55:28 PM
Would be good if Hourihan could get him signed on a pre nuptual agreement to come in the summer, then that would force Barnsleys hand a bit & reduce them playing hardball games

Well we'd be breaching all sorts of rules if we did that.

Not least the one about not getting married to another team's player.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Clampy on January 20, 2017, 02:58:36 PM
Notwithstanding the ins and outs of the Cleverley deal, Kodj is right he could sign a pre-contract agreement with us.  That would leave Barnsley under no illusions of what will happen in the summer.  But to be honest I'm not sure how much it would assist and being based on a free transfer may make the agent greedier than the deal to move now.  Also, we want him now not in the summer.

I agree with what someone else said earlier. £1m is nothing nowadays, they might as well keep him until his contract runs out (if that fee is correct).

My point was, if Barnsley are asking for a couple of million-ish, then I don't blame them.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Dave on January 20, 2017, 03:01:58 PM
Bruce seems pretty sure this is a done deal. The boy wants to come so its just haggling over a fee, I presume.

If Bruce is saying that then I hope they've given us permission to speak to him.

O'Leary's idiocy over Beattie was bad enough, it would be ridiculous if we ended up getting done for that twice.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: PeterWithesShin on January 20, 2017, 03:04:50 PM
I don't blame Barnsley for trying to get as much as they can, i'd expect any club to do that. I also expect them to sell as a million or two will be a notable amount for them.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: footyskillz on January 20, 2017, 03:08:14 PM
Notwithstanding the ins and outs of the Cleverley deal, Kodj is right he could sign a pre-contract agreement with us.  That would leave Barnsley under no illusions of what will happen in the summer.  But to be honest I'm not sure how much it would assist and being based on a free transfer may make the agent greedier than the deal to move now.  Also, we want him now not in the summer.

I agree with what someone else said earlier. £1m is nothing nowadays, they might as well keep him until his contract runs out (if that fee is correct).

My point was, if Barnsley are asking for a couple of million-ish, then I don't blame them.

Winnall went for 500k to local rivals sheff Wed. Heswas there  top striker and goal getter . However himself , houraine, Watkins and the youngster bree all have contract expiring in summer case of get what they can. But also poor to let several  have contracts run down . Bree may hold out till summer and none of them would command a big fee because of circumstance. 
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Clampy on January 20, 2017, 03:11:36 PM
They'll also see us as a club who have already splashed out £50m. They'll try and squeeze as much out of us as they can.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: KevinGage on January 20, 2017, 03:24:07 PM
Notwithstanding the ins and outs of the Cleverley deal, Kodj is right he could sign a pre-contract agreement with us.  That would leave Barnsley under no illusions of what will happen in the summer.  But to be honest I'm not sure how much it would assist and being based on a free transfer may make the agent greedier than the deal to move now.  Also, we want him now not in the summer.

The danger there is that if he has a second half of the season that mirrors the first, the likes of Bournemouth or Newcastle (lets face it, they'll be back) might decide he is worth a gamble in the top flight.

Get this one over the line as soon as.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: footyskillz on January 20, 2017, 03:29:11 PM
They'll also see us as a club who have already splashed out £50m. They'll try and squeeze as much out of us as they can.

Barnsley are quite frankly a small time club out of depth and lucky to be even in championship.  I can name heaps of other clubs in league one bigger than them  milwall ,charlton ,sheff utd , bolton even coventry despite plight  and league 2 Portsmouth. Bradford are bigger too.

Likes of walsall crewe luton Doncaster Swindon Peterborough  are on par or bigger than them. And these clubs would welcome 1 to 3 million. 

Barnsley  A plucky cup team -Johnstone paint trophy winner merely a club who have to step on . Come on now Barnsley you're playing with the big boys just let the lad go!!!
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: darren woolley on January 20, 2017, 03:29:56 PM
Notwithstanding the ins and outs of the Cleverley deal, Kodj is right he could sign a pre-contract agreement with us.  That would leave Barnsley under no illusions of what will happen in the summer.  But to be honest I'm not sure how much it would assist and being based on a free transfer may make the agent greedier than the deal to move now.  Also, we want him now not in the summer.

The danger there is that if he has a second half of the season that mirrors the first, the likes of Bournemouth or Newcastle (lets face it, they'll be back) might decide he is worth a gamble in the top flight.

Get this one over the line as soon as.

This.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: chrisw1 on January 20, 2017, 03:37:54 PM
They'll also see us as a club who have already splashed out £50m. They'll try and squeeze as much out of us as they can.

Barnsley are quite frankly a small time club out of depth and lucky to be even in championship.  I can name heaps of other clubs in league one bigger than them  milwall ,charlton ,sheff utd , bolton even coventry despite plight  and league 2 Portsmouth. Bradford are bigger too.

Likes of walsall crewe luton Doncaster Swindon Peterborough  are on par or bigger than them. And these clubs would welcome 1 to 3 million. 

Barnsley  A plucky cup team -Johnstone paint trophy winner merely a club who have to step on . Come on now Barnsley you're playing with the big boys just let the lad go!!!

How would you feel if you read a Man U fan saying something similar when they were trying to sign our best player?

When we have paid £750k for a kid Orient let go last year and has only played 6 games since, I really hope we are not haggling over the odd few hundred k here.  Would have been nice to have him in the squad tomorrow.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Clampy on January 20, 2017, 03:40:13 PM
They'll also see us as a club who have already splashed out £50m. They'll try and squeeze as much out of us as they can.

Barnsley are quite frankly a small time club out of depth and lucky to be even in championship.  I can name heaps of other clubs in league one bigger than them  milwall ,charlton ,sheff utd , bolton even coventry despite plight  and league 2 Portsmouth. Bradford are bigger too.

Likes of walsall crewe luton Doncaster Swindon Peterborough  are on par or bigger than them. And these clubs would welcome 1 to 3 million. 

Barnsley  A plucky cup team -Johnstone paint trophy winner merely a club who have to step on . Come on now Barnsley you're playing with the big boys just let the lad go!!!


That's extremely patronising to be honest. We're buying one their best players. They want a fee for him, it's up to us to negotiate with them or pay it. 
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: PeterWithe on January 20, 2017, 03:44:04 PM
Notwithstanding the ins and outs of the Cleverley deal, Kodj is right he could sign a pre-contract agreement with us.  That would leave Barnsley under no illusions of what will happen in the summer.  But to be honest I'm not sure how much it would assist and being based on a free transfer may make the agent greedier than the deal to move now.  Also, we want him now not in the summer.

Cant you only sign a pre-contract agreement with a club another country?
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: PeterWithesShin on January 20, 2017, 03:47:58 PM
I hope we are haggling over a few hundred thousand. We'd be stupid not to.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: footyskillz on January 20, 2017, 03:49:03 PM
They'll also see us as a club who have already splashed out £50m. They'll try and squeeze as much out of us as they can.

Barnsley are quite frankly a small time club out of depth and lucky to be even in championship.  I can name heaps of other clubs in league one bigger than them  milwall ,charlton ,sheff utd , bolton even coventry despite plight  and league 2 Portsmouth. Bradford are bigger too.

Likes of walsall crewe luton Doncaster Swindon Peterborough  are on par or bigger than them. And these clubs would welcome 1 to 3 million. 

Barnsley  A plucky cup team -Johnstone paint trophy winner merely a club who have to step on . Come on now Barnsley you're playing with the big boys just let the lad go!!!


That's extremely patronising to be honest. We're buying one their best players. They want a fee for him, it's up to us to negotiate with them or pay it.

We 'll pay it no problems.  Just like  xia says clubs stalling and playing games fans get frustrated.  I saying how it is. Sky have villa on frequently and Barnsley are lower popularity and very regional so they are running a far smaller ambition and club than the villa project . Steeped in history and tradition.  Anyway I wish them luck for their cup final v Leeds on weekend.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Clampy on January 20, 2017, 03:53:35 PM
They'll also see us as a club who have already splashed out £50m. They'll try and squeeze as much out of us as they can.

Barnsley are quite frankly a small time club out of depth and lucky to be even in championship.  I can name heaps of other clubs in league one bigger than them  milwall ,charlton ,sheff utd , bolton even coventry despite plight  and league 2 Portsmouth. Bradford are bigger too.

Likes of walsall crewe luton Doncaster Swindon Peterborough  are on par or bigger than them. And these clubs would welcome 1 to 3 million. 

Barnsley  A plucky cup team -Johnstone paint trophy winner merely a club who have to step on . Come on now Barnsley you're playing with the big boys just let the lad go!!!


That's extremely patronising to be honest. We're buying one their best players. They want a fee for him, it's up to us to negotiate with them or pay it.

We 'll pay it no problems.  Just like  xia says clubs stalling and playing games fans get frustrated.  I saying how it is. Sky have villa on frequently and Barnsley are lower popularity and very regional so they are running a far smaller ambition and club than the villa project . Steeped in history and tradition.  Anyway I wish them luck for their cup final v Leeds on weekend.

Of course we'll pay it, and Barnsley have a right to ask for it. You're sounding like one of those cocky arrogant Man Utd fans and it doesn't suit you.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: footyskillz on January 20, 2017, 04:08:42 PM
It's the trump effect ! I try and tone it down. Wanted to make the point i guess. 1000 apologies. Would have liked hooray houraine In before Preston. 
Now have to wait for the 3 or 4 signings to play Brentford on 31st !
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: eamonn on January 20, 2017, 04:08:50 PM
It doesn't, not sure what's got into the 'skillz lately.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: ClaretAndBlueBlood on January 20, 2017, 04:14:43 PM
Notwithstanding the ins and outs of the Cleverley deal, Kodj is right he could sign a pre-contract agreement with us.  That would leave Barnsley under no illusions of what will happen in the summer.  But to be honest I'm not sure how much it would assist and being based on a free transfer may make the agent greedier than the deal to move now.  Also, we want him now not in the summer.

Cant you only sign a pre-contract agreement with a club another country?

yep I think you are correct
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Dave on January 20, 2017, 04:17:09 PM
Notwithstanding the ins and outs of the Cleverley deal, Kodj is right he could sign a pre-contract agreement with us.  That would leave Barnsley under no illusions of what will happen in the summer.  But to be honest I'm not sure how much it would assist and being based on a free transfer may make the agent greedier than the deal to move now.  Also, we want him now not in the summer.

Cant you only sign a pre-contract agreement with a club another country?

Yup.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Ads on January 20, 2017, 04:20:53 PM
Him and the Doc follow each other on Twitter as of this arvo.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Dave P on January 20, 2017, 04:21:03 PM
Dr Xia has followed Conor on Twitter and Conor has followed him back. Hmmmm.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Ads on January 20, 2017, 04:22:26 PM
Come on Dave P, that's old news.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: KevinGage on January 20, 2017, 04:24:34 PM
The lad himself has apparently 'liked' a link that says fee agreed.

Shirley even we can't balls this up now.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Pete3206 on January 20, 2017, 04:28:11 PM
They'll also see us as a club who have already splashed out £50m. They'll try and squeeze as much out of us as they can.

Barnsley are quite frankly a small time club out of depth and lucky to be even in championship.  I can name heaps of other clubs in league one bigger than them  milwall ,charlton ,sheff utd , bolton even coventry despite plight  and league 2 Portsmouth. Bradford are bigger too.

Likes of walsall crewe luton Doncaster Swindon Peterborough  are on par or bigger than them. And these clubs would welcome 1 to 3 million. 

Barnsley  A plucky cup team -Johnstone paint trophy winner merely a club who have to step on . Come on now Barnsley you're playing with the big boys just let the lad go!!!


Codswallop
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Tayls_7 on January 20, 2017, 04:33:33 PM
They'll also see us as a club who have already splashed out £50m. They'll try and squeeze as much out of us as they can.

Barnsley are quite frankly a small time club out of depth and lucky to be even in championship.  I can name heaps of other clubs in league one bigger than them  milwall ,charlton ,sheff utd , bolton even coventry despite plight  and league 2 Portsmouth. Bradford are bigger too.

Likes of walsall crewe luton Doncaster Swindon Peterborough  are on par or bigger than them. And these clubs would welcome 1 to 3 million. 

Barnsley  A plucky cup team -Johnstone paint trophy winner merely a club who have to step on . Come on now Barnsley you're playing with the big boys just let the lad go!!!


Codswallop

Is that near T'Barnsley?
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Clampy on January 20, 2017, 04:39:00 PM
They'll also see us as a club who have already splashed out £50m. They'll try and squeeze as much out of us as they can.

Barnsley are quite frankly a small time club out of depth and lucky to be even in championship.  I can name heaps of other clubs in league one bigger than them  milwall ,charlton ,sheff utd , bolton even coventry despite plight  and league 2 Portsmouth. Bradford are bigger too.

Likes of walsall crewe luton Doncaster Swindon Peterborough  are on par or bigger than them. And these clubs would welcome 1 to 3 million. 

Barnsley  A plucky cup team -Johnstone paint trophy winner merely a club who have to step on . Come on now Barnsley you're playing with the big boys just let the lad go!!!


Codswallop

Is that near T'Barnsley?

I think that's what they have oop north with chips.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Chris Jameson on January 20, 2017, 05:37:33 PM
footyskillz has hit a new low with that post.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: PeterWithesShin on January 20, 2017, 05:43:30 PM
He's already been pulled up for it and he's apologised so how about we leave it there.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Chris Jameson on January 20, 2017, 05:55:09 PM
He's already been pulled up for it and he's apologised so how about we leave it there.

Hadn't read previous posts, but glad to hear it.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: nigel on January 20, 2017, 06:03:18 PM
They'll also see us as a club who have already splashed out £50m. They'll try and squeeze as much out of us as they can.

Barnsley are quite frankly a small time club out of depth and lucky to be even in championship.  I can name heaps of other clubs in league one bigger than them  milwall ,charlton ,sheff utd , bolton even coventry despite plight  and league 2 Portsmouth. Bradford are bigger too.

Likes of walsall crewe luton Doncaster Swindon Peterborough  are on par or bigger than them. And these clubs would welcome 1 to 3 million. 

Barnsley  A plucky cup team -Johnstone paint trophy winner merely a club who have to step on . Come on now Barnsley you're playing with the big boys just let the lad go!!!


That's extremely patronising to be honest. We're buying one their best players. They want a fee for him, it's up to us to negotiate with them or pay it.

Agree, Clampy.
What a load of b'lox

Edit: as per Chris, didn't read back posts
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: DB on January 20, 2017, 06:27:24 PM
Is footyskillz more than 1 person looking at the variety if his posts recently?
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: KevinGage on January 20, 2017, 06:58:24 PM
Aye.  Terry Christian, Neil Tennant and John Inman.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: damon loves JT on January 20, 2017, 07:04:18 PM
I like footyskillz. He is man enough to take a rebuke.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: footyskillz on January 20, 2017, 07:30:32 PM
 Let's stick to football talk and Conor hooray than opinion on another or each other shall we!
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: eamonn on January 20, 2017, 07:31:30 PM
I like footyskillz. He is man enough to take a rebuke.

Rebukes rawk!
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: ozzjim on January 20, 2017, 07:39:52 PM
Is he actually coming?
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: footyskillz on January 20, 2017, 07:42:13 PM
I like footyskillz. He is man enough to take a rebuke.
Happy New year Damon! 
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: footyskillz on January 20, 2017, 07:44:12 PM
Is he actually coming?

We all certainly hope so that why was frustrated early as needs must and he can't play now till 31st against Brentford.  I hope we get a victory with lansbury and boys tomorrow and then have a run at things with New new players and afcon stars back!  utv!
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: footyskillz on January 20, 2017, 07:47:01 PM
Aye.  Terry Christian, Neil Tennant and John Inman.

Are they the next 3 to come in to Celebrity big brother house.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Percy McCarthy on January 20, 2017, 09:40:36 PM
Aye.  Terry Christian, Neil Tennant and John Inman.

Are they the next 3 to come in to Celebrity big brother house.

I very much doubt it. They are actually celebrities.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Exeter 77 on January 20, 2017, 09:42:31 PM
Aye.  Terry Christian, Neil Tennant and John Inman.

Are they the next 3 to come in to Celebrity big brother house.

I very much doubt it. They are actually celebrities.
And one's dead
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: dave shelley on January 20, 2017, 09:43:02 PM
And John Inman's dead.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: PeterWithesShin on January 20, 2017, 09:43:09 PM
Aye.  Terry Christian, Neil Tennant and John Inman.

Are they the next 3 to come in to Celebrity big brother house.

I very much doubt it. They are actually celebrities.

Terry Christian has already been on it.

And John Inman is dead. Which i'd imagine will prevent him making an appearance in the Big Brother house. Or anywhere else.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: PeterWithesShin on January 20, 2017, 09:44:15 PM
Unless Inman appears in Dead Set 2.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: BOB MANSFIELD on January 20, 2017, 09:45:24 PM
Couldn't he appear in Celebrity Little House of Horrors in some capacity or other ?
Just a cameo role or a ghost part.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Tayls_7 on January 20, 2017, 09:45:30 PM
Inman is dead! Was it the curse of 20 fucking 16?
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Percy McCarthy on January 20, 2017, 09:48:09 PM
And John Inman's dead.

Oh, so he's not free then.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Exeter 77 on January 20, 2017, 09:50:09 PM
Inman is dead! Was it the curse of 20 fucking 16?
2007 apparently.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: TheMalandro on January 21, 2017, 06:29:43 AM
Going from Westwood/Gardner in midfield to Hourihane/Lansbury, I don't think we can complain about this transfer window.

A right footer and a left footer too.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: brian green on January 21, 2017, 08:04:59 AM
Don't bring religion into this.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: PeterWithe on January 21, 2017, 09:15:11 AM
I pop in to see the latest news on if this lad has signed and immediately read a row about when John Inman died.

H&V in a nutshell.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: jwarry on January 21, 2017, 09:51:31 AM
Looking at the YouTube clips I quite like the look of this lad. Has a bit of the Cowans/Cropley about him
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: frank black on January 21, 2017, 09:57:00 AM
Looking at the YouTube clips I quite like the look of this lad. Has a bit of the Cowans/Cropley about him

I'd say he's more from the Frankie Howard school of comedy myself.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: ozzjim on January 21, 2017, 10:22:23 AM
Looking at the YouTube clips I quite like the look of this lad. Has a bit of the Cowans/Cropley about him

He looks very good.  Worried its all gone quiet on him though
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: LeeB on January 21, 2017, 10:32:32 AM
Looking at the YouTube clips I quite like the look of this lad. Has a bit of the Cowans/Cropley about him

He and Lansbury actually have compilations of goals they have scored. Imagine that for a minute, a midfielder that scores goals, what a fucking alien concept that seems.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Clampy on January 21, 2017, 10:33:39 AM
Looking at the YouTube clips I quite like the look of this lad. Has a bit of the Cowans/Cropley about him

He looks very good.  Worried its all gone quiet on him though

It'll be interesting to see if he plays for them today. I'm not too worried that's we've not heard anything though.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: footyskillz on January 21, 2017, 10:38:08 AM
Looking at the YouTube clips I quite like the look of this lad. Has a bit of the Cowans/Cropley about him

He looks very good.  Worried its all gone quiet on him though

It'll be interesting to see if he plays for them today. I'm not too worried that's we've not heard anything though.

As i said he's a hybrid of Delphi/ Adam.
He's actually far better flair technique and passing than Livermore who was 10 million though would have him  too as solid player .
Gets a tackle in too!
Glad you like him !
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Pete3206 on January 21, 2017, 11:35:37 AM
skillz, have you seen him play in the flesh?
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: LeeB on January 21, 2017, 11:58:30 AM
skillz, have you seen him play in the flesh?

This website is getting fruitier by the day.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: damon loves JT on January 21, 2017, 01:17:12 PM
I now can't stop singing 'You are like Conor Hourihane' in a peculiar Neil Young-type voice while doing the washing up.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: passitsideways on January 21, 2017, 01:26:36 PM
Looking at the YouTube clips I quite like the look of this lad. Has a bit of the Cowans/Cropley about him

He looks very good.  Worried its all gone quiet on him though

It'll be interesting to see if he plays for them today. I'm not too worried that's we've not heard anything though.

As i said he's a hybrid of Delphi/ Adam.
He's actually far better flair technique and passing than Livermore who was 10 million though would have him  too as solid player .
Gets a tackle in too!
Glad you like him !

You could even say he has the foresight to know when and where to pass the ball then
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: olaftab on January 21, 2017, 01:31:11 PM
As i said he's a hybrid of Delphi/ Adam.
So that's an Orangutan with the back bone missing?
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Steve67 on January 21, 2017, 01:55:28 PM
I now can't stop singing 'You are like Conor Hourihane' in a peculiar Neil Young-type voice while doing the washing up.

Be careful not to wash your phone/iPad!! 👍
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: footyskillz on January 21, 2017, 04:15:48 PM
skillz, have you seen him play in the flesh?

Yes but only once on the big stage ! Wembley final last season very impressive as was Fletcher. 
Looking forward on the Westwood upgrade! 
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: footyskillz on January 21, 2017, 04:45:39 PM
Captain Conor Hourahine starts today in Yorkshire derby . Its his last match as a swansong to  say bye to fans.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Nastylee on January 21, 2017, 05:18:54 PM
Or he gets injured and that's that!
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: aev on January 21, 2017, 05:19:41 PM
I am amazed that he is starting if the deal is pretty much done.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: BOB MANSFIELD on January 21, 2017, 05:21:08 PM
Heckingbottom just virtually confirmed that he is on his way.....
Just watch.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: BOB MANSFIELD on January 21, 2017, 05:23:26 PM
Hourihane getting LOADS of attention on the speculation he is on his way to B6 ( they just won't say that ) and bigging him up good style. Let's hope he isn't a wash-out.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on January 21, 2017, 05:53:03 PM
And Hourihane gets booked.  He's on 7 for the season.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: dave shelley on January 21, 2017, 06:44:50 PM
I hope to fuck this goes through after that.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Fasth56 on January 21, 2017, 06:44:56 PM
just scored an absolute corker from a free kick
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Flamingo Lane on January 21, 2017, 06:48:05 PM
Well that pretty much guarantees where he won't be going.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: dave shelley on January 21, 2017, 06:52:14 PM
Does anyone have the full sp on what the exact position with this lad is?  Have Barnsley accepted our bid?  If, as Pat Murphy has tweeted he wants Villa then I would like to think it must be pretty well nailed on, at least I hope so because he is just what we need.  He'd be guaranteed to go straight into the side whereas any move to the top division could see him making up the numbers for a while.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on January 21, 2017, 06:53:53 PM
Hourihane is apparently all but done.  Bree apparently has an offer from Southampton as well.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Rudy65 on January 21, 2017, 06:54:39 PM
Does anyone have the full sp on what the exact position with this lad is?  Have Barnsley accepted our bid?  If, as Pat Murphy has tweeted he wants Villa then I would like to think it must be pretty well nailed on, at least I hope so because he is just what we need.  He'd be guaranteed to go straight into the side whereas any move to the top division could see him making up the numbers for a while.

Other teams might take note after that free kick

Barnsley look a really good side
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Dazvillain on January 21, 2017, 07:05:58 PM
Does anyone have the full sp on what the exact position with this lad is?  Have Barnsley accepted our bid?  If, as Pat Murphy has tweeted he wants Villa then I would like to think it must be pretty well nailed on, at least I hope so because he is just what we need.  He'd be guaranteed to go straight into the side whereas any move to the top division could see him making up the numbers for a while.

Other teams might take note after that free kick

Barnsley look a really good side
He may have wanted to come to us a step up from where he is but there are top prem clubs there watching tonight so it could give doubt . With that in mind it all depends on how much he wants to play football week in week out
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Rudy65 on January 21, 2017, 07:07:42 PM
Does anyone have the full sp on what the exact position with this lad is?  Have Barnsley accepted our bid?  If, as Pat Murphy has tweeted he wants Villa then I would like to think it must be pretty well nailed on, at least I hope so because he is just what we need.  He'd be guaranteed to go straight into the side whereas any move to the top division could see him making up the numbers for a while.

Bar the free kick I think some of his team mates have played better tonight. Not to say he isn't decent overall

Other teams might take note after that free kick

Barnsley look a really good side
He may have wanted to come to us a step up from where he is but there are top prem clubs there watching tonight so it could give doubt . With that in mind it all depends on how much he wants to play football week in week out
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: ozzjim on January 21, 2017, 07:17:42 PM
I have a feeling we should have got this over the line last week
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: dave shelley on January 21, 2017, 07:20:14 PM
I suppose a good sign would have been to see him left out tonight.  Oh well, c'est la vie.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on January 21, 2017, 07:24:06 PM
Let's see if he waves goodbye to the crowd at the end.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on January 21, 2017, 07:30:05 PM
He's coming.  He Just said that when a big club with a manager like Steve Bruce comes looking for you it turns your head.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on January 21, 2017, 07:31:15 PM
He's coming.  He Just said that when a big club with a manager like Steve Bruce comes looking for you it turns your head added to the line 'we'll see what happens next week.'
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: KevinGage on January 21, 2017, 07:32:37 PM
I took it that there has been contact, but it is by no means done.

Based on tonight, there are seven or eight of that Barnsley side that would walk straight into ours. 
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Villafirst on January 21, 2017, 07:33:05 PM
Pretty much nailed on. He was clever with his choice of words. He didn't deny moving. Only doubt now could be other premier teams, although none of the top 6 or 7 will be interested.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: eamonn on January 21, 2017, 07:35:03 PM
He's a good-looking fella too, we've been an ugly lot since Lauren and Mellberg left.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: aev on January 21, 2017, 07:45:46 PM
Listening to that I don't think it is at all cut and dried that he will come to us.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: richtheholtender on January 21, 2017, 07:47:11 PM
What did he say?
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: aev on January 21, 2017, 07:53:03 PM
The manager was asked about all the speculation and he said that there will probably be loads more next week.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: saunders_heroes on January 21, 2017, 07:56:21 PM
What did he say?

He said something along the lines of, "clubs like Villa would always turn your head and we'll see what happens next week."
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: VinnieChase84 on January 21, 2017, 08:07:24 PM
Let's see if he waves goodbye to the crowd at the end.
He seemed to take his time clapping them all.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on January 21, 2017, 08:24:18 PM
He's exactly what we need.  Properly composed midfielder.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: QuintonVilla on January 21, 2017, 08:25:09 PM
Don't do it to yourself lad. We'll turn you to shit.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: LukeJames on January 21, 2017, 08:26:34 PM
I'm looking forward to seeing the creative ways in which we can fuck this guy up.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: mr underhill on January 21, 2017, 08:27:01 PM
He's going to end up somewhere other than VP after today
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Clampy on January 21, 2017, 08:40:11 PM
Don't do it to yourself lad. We'll turn you to shit.

Or fans like you will.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: QuintonVilla on January 21, 2017, 08:51:57 PM
Don't do it to yourself lad. We'll turn you to shit.

Or fans like you will.
LukeJames commented very similar to me under my post. Why not quote his?...
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Ads on January 21, 2017, 08:55:38 PM
He wants to come to us.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: LukeJames on January 21, 2017, 08:57:40 PM
Don't do it to yourself lad. We'll turn you to shit.

Or fans like you will.
LukeJames commented very similar to me under my post. Why not quote his?...

I'd love to have been in the trenches with you!
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: QuintonVilla on January 21, 2017, 08:59:41 PM
Don't do it to yourself lad. We'll turn you to shit.

Or fans like you will.
LukeJames commented very similar to me under my post. Why not quote his?...

I'd love to have been in the trenches with you!
Nothing against you, but Clampy and a few others on here comment on everything I post. I post about support after games as it's a big part of the game and the matchday and it's like crime of the century.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Ads on January 21, 2017, 09:00:56 PM
You might want to consider adjusting your profile settings on Twitter. I only need your inside leg measurement and I would be able to take out a mortgage in your name.

Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Clampy on January 21, 2017, 09:13:06 PM
Don't do it to yourself lad. We'll turn you to shit.

Or fans like you will.
LukeJames commented very similar to me under my post. Why not quote his?...

I'd love to have been in the trenches with you!
Nothing against you, but Clampy and a few others on here comment on everything I post. I post about support after games as it's a big part of the game and the matchday and it's like crime of the century.

Maybe if you wasn't so bloody repetitive, people wouldn't pick on your posts.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: QuintonVilla on January 21, 2017, 09:16:51 PM
Don't do it to yourself lad. We'll turn you to shit.

Or fans like you will.
LukeJames commented very similar to me under my post. Why not quote his?...

I'd love to have been in the trenches with you!
Nothing against you, but Clampy and a few others on here comment on everything I post. I post about support after games as it's a big part of the game and the matchday and it's like crime of the century.

Maybe if you wasn't so bloody repetitive, people wouldn't pick on your posts.
Sorry bab  :-*
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: BOB MANSFIELD on January 21, 2017, 09:50:47 PM
He's a good-looking fella too, we've been an ugly lot since Lauren and Mellberg left.
Ahah. So it is you who is the alter-ego of footyskillz then ! PS I think he is ugly and well suited to join ugly SB's C&B Army.
and neither his beard, nor his hair is anywhere near good enough now Lansbury has set the new standard.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: BOB MANSFIELD on January 21, 2017, 09:52:38 PM
He's coming.  He Just said that when a big club with a manager like Steve Bruce comes looking for you it turns your head.
Yes this was pretty much a " Steve Bruce likes me and now I have added £5k per week to my wage demands....so pay up "
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: chrisw1 on January 21, 2017, 11:15:06 PM
I hope we are haggling over a few hundred thousand. We'd be stupid not to.

Still feel the same?

He may still come but if we really wanted him I wish we had done it last week.  We may also have been two points better off.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Toronto Villa on January 21, 2017, 11:32:26 PM
I hope we are haggling over a few hundred thousand. We'd be stupid not to.

Still feel the same?

He may still come but if we really wanted him I wish we had done it last week.  We may also have been two points better off.

So you are suggesting that just because he scored today we should have just emptied our wallet? That's not really how it works is it. The fact that we are after him is because of stuff like today. It's not like he elevated himself that much higher than what our scouts would have already identified. And while he looks a very good prospect frankly most of us hadn't even heard of him 10 days ago.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: ozzjim on January 21, 2017, 11:37:07 PM
Dunno TV, he's been one of the best players in this division all season so think he's been on a lot of wanted lists for a while. I also think the prove went up 500k for anyone today.  With rumours Sheffield Wednesday have offered 2.5m, i think we may have to pay similar to what we did for Lansbury.  It wold be well worth it.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: TheMalandro on January 21, 2017, 11:48:21 PM
Dunno TV, he's been one of the best players in this division all season so think he's been on a lot of wanted lists for a while. I also think the prove went up 500k for anyone today.  With rumours Sheffield Wednesday have offered 2.5m, i think we may have to pay similar to what we did for Lansbury.  It wold be well worth it.

Fee was agreed according to Yorkshire Post - Double deal with their defender complicating matters. Should be done early next week.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: TheMalandro on January 21, 2017, 11:49:47 PM
Sorry quote fail too, didn't mean to quote at all, sorry ozzim
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: ozzjim on January 22, 2017, 12:03:17 AM
Their manager said no fee has been agreed after the game today though.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: PeterWithesShin on January 22, 2017, 12:56:49 AM
I hope we are haggling over a few hundred thousand. We'd be stupid not to.

Still feel the same?

He may still come but if we really wanted him I wish we had done it last week.  We may also have been two points better off.

Yes.

We may ave won. Or still drawn. Or we may have lost. We'll never know.

I do know though that we should try and save money on every transfer if possible, even if we're prepared to pay the asking price. It's just basic common sense, something we as a club have been lacking in for far too long.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Matt Collins on January 22, 2017, 08:04:49 AM
You do still get the sense on here that many villa fans' attitude is "pay whatever it takes" and "it's not my money"

Which after the Lerner years is fairly extraordinary
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: villabear on January 22, 2017, 08:27:54 AM
Some goal of his yesterday. We'll soon knock that out of him 😀
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Ads on January 22, 2017, 08:33:37 AM
The club should be looking to get the best deal it can. Sometimes the best deal might be paying a little bit more, sometimes not.

Hourihane is a good player going for a song in comparison to some of the fees swirling about. It's worth flexing your muscle to take Sheffield Wednesday put of the equation who cannot perhaps afford a 5 million four year deal.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Old Kodjia on January 22, 2017, 08:46:58 AM
Barnsley have a game next week-I wonder if they will try to string it out to allow him to play in that as well?
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: ozzjim on January 22, 2017, 09:21:58 AM
The club should be looking to get the best deal it can. Sometimes the best deal might be paying a little bit more, sometimes not.

Hourihane is a good player going for a song in comparison to some of the fees swirling about. It's worth flexing your muscle to take Sheffield Wednesday put of the equation who cannot perhaps afford a 5 million four year deal.

Agreed.  It depends on your market, but if it means paying the extra 500k on Hourihane when he's costing a small amount anyway you do it, if he continues his form he will be a snip. 
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Old Kodjia on January 22, 2017, 09:37:24 AM
The club should be looking to get the best deal it can. Sometimes the best deal might be paying a little bit more, sometimes not.

Hourihane is a good player going for a song in comparison to some of the fees swirling about. It's worth flexing your muscle to take Sheffield Wednesday put of the equation who cannot perhaps afford a 5 million four year deal.

Agreed.  It depends on your market, but if it means paying the extra 500k on Hourihane when he's costing a small amount anyway you do it, if he continues his form he will be a snip.

All the suggestions have been that the hold up is at Barnsley's end and not the haggling over the fee.  The Dr tweeted that clubs were dragging things out so as to enable the players to play as many games for them, before the inevitable transfer.  This is exactly what has happened with Hourihane.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: olaftab on January 22, 2017, 09:55:40 AM
A mate of mine is a Barnsley fan living down here but mind you gainfully employed so not claiming benefits has agreed with me that Hourihane should join the Villa. Please stop worrying  with this accord between me and the honest down to earth Tyke what can go wrong?
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: mr underhill on January 22, 2017, 10:15:55 AM
Many a slip twixt cup and lip
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: in exile on January 22, 2017, 10:47:12 AM
Mmmm...Twixt
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: wittonwarrior on January 22, 2017, 01:00:21 PM
I am 100% for this signing but removing myself from the bubble why would any non connected player want to sign for us right at the moment
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: cdbullyweefan on January 22, 2017, 01:03:29 PM
Because he plays for Barnsley, and we're Aston Villa.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: SheffieldVillain on January 22, 2017, 01:16:06 PM
I am 100% for this signing but removing myself from the bubble why would any non connected player want to sign for us right at the moment

Because it's what he does to make a living not his hobby, and we'd be offering a considerable wage rise and a move to an organisation that long term has much more potential than his current employers. He'd also be working for a manager widely respected in the game.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on January 22, 2017, 01:41:42 PM
I'd go and work for anyone who was prepared to quadruple my salary for doing the same job.  Plus he specifically referred to Bruce in his post match interview yesterday.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: wittonwarrior on January 22, 2017, 02:39:36 PM
I've been told!
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Pete3206 on January 22, 2017, 02:44:55 PM
I am 100% for this signing but removing myself from the bubble why would any non connected player want to sign for us right at the moment

More money
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on January 22, 2017, 03:35:23 PM
I've been told!

You're a very naughty boy.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: footyskillz on January 22, 2017, 03:54:35 PM
I am 100% for this signing but removing myself from the bubble why would any non connected player want to sign for us right at the moment
Come on now. Money. Is a factor. I don't want to break any romantic notions so add in the tradition and size of Aston villa.
My question now! 
Why would he follow Xia and xia follow him on Twitter if Conor wasn't coming its when not if!


Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: brian green on January 22, 2017, 03:58:27 PM
Who mentioned Twix?   
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: footyskillz on January 22, 2017, 03:59:51 PM
Who mentioned Twix?

Didn't hear was just a whisper ...

Here we go again!
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Old Kodjia on January 22, 2017, 04:01:42 PM
Who mentioned Twix?

Didn't hear was just a whisper ...

Here we go again!

Either way, he'd certainly give our midfield a boost.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Axl Rose on January 22, 2017, 04:10:20 PM
Who mentioned Twix?

Didn't hear was just a whisper ...

Here we go again!

Either way, he'd certainly give our midfield a boost.

It's a shame there's a bounty on McCormack's head. Hourihane would certainly link up well with him. The fee quoted is merely buttons, too. He'd be a revel ation for us. He's coming. Especially now he's changed his Twitter background to a lion.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: footyskillz on January 22, 2017, 04:16:22 PM
Who mentioned Twix?

Didn't hear was just a whisper ...

Here we go again!

Either way, he'd certainly give our midfield a boost.

It's a shame there's a bounty on McCormack's head. Hourihane would certainly link up well with him. The fee quoted is merely buttons, too. He'd be a revel ation for us. He's coming. Especially now he's changed his Twitter background to a lion.

I should coco
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: eamonn on January 22, 2017, 04:20:22 PM
I've been told!

Only fools rush in, only fools rush in.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: pauliewalnuts on January 22, 2017, 04:21:23 PM
I see he's recently started following a well known Chinese businessman on twitter, too.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Toronto Villa on January 22, 2017, 04:26:58 PM
I see he's recently started following a well known Chinese businessman on twitter, too.

Yep mentioned a couple of pages back that they began a mutual Twitter romance. And young Conor has already admitted publicly that the glances cast across the dance floor by the good looking Doc have "turned his head".
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: peter w on January 22, 2017, 04:28:03 PM
Right, boost, wispa, twix, mars, raider, turkish delight, chomp, crunchie, dairy milk, double decker, drifter, aero, fruit & nut, yorkie, curly wurly, toffee and all its manifestations, caramac,buttons, milky bar, lindt, lindor, ferrero rochet, milky way, galaxy, dime, bluebird, nougat, marshmallows, poppets, smarties, M&ms, after 8s, twirl, marathons, snickers, dido, maltesers, hersheys, bournville chocolate, revels, cadbury orange,  freddos, chocolate mice, fudge, coffee creams, strawberry chocolate, trio, penguin, blue riband, viscount, flake, picnic, star bar, lion bar, topic.


DONE.

That's it. We're all done. No more to mention. The pun fest is FINISHED. Kaput.

Back to Hourihane or rolo -poly McCormack.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: KRS on January 22, 2017, 04:32:41 PM
That's proper Quality Street PW...you deserve a tin of Roses.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: four fornicholl on January 22, 2017, 04:33:37 PM
Surely its McCaramac.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Old Kodjia on January 22, 2017, 04:35:43 PM
That's proper Quality Street PW...you deserve a tin of Roses.

I was going to mention that an ITK told me to expect some news tomorrow morning, he said any time after eight.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Tayls_7 on January 22, 2017, 04:38:25 PM
Right, boost, wispa, twix, mars, raider, turkish delight, chomp, crunchie, dairy milk, double decker, drifter, aero, fruit & nut, yorkie, curly wurly, toffee and all its manifestations, caramac,buttons, milky bar, lindt, lindor, ferrero rochet, milky way, galaxy, dime, bluebird, nougat, marshmallows, poppets, smarties, M&ms, after 8s, twirl, marathons, snickers, dido, maltesers, hersheys, bournville chocolate, revels, cadbury orange,  freddos, chocolate mice, fudge, coffee creams, strawberry chocolate, trio, penguin, blue riband, viscount, flake, picnic, star bar, lion bar, topic.


DONE.

That's it. We're all done. No more to mention. The pun fest is FINISHED. Kaput.

Back to Hourihane or rolo -poly McCormack.

Kit Kat. Fucking Kit Kat!
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Percy McCarthy on January 22, 2017, 04:38:31 PM
Right, boost, wispa, twix, mars, raider, turkish delight, chomp, crunchie, dairy milk, double decker, drifter, aero, fruit & nut, yorkie, curly wurly, toffee and all its manifestations, caramac,buttons, milky bar, lindt, lindor, ferrero rochet, milky way, galaxy, dime, bluebird, nougat, marshmallows, poppets, smarties, M&ms, after 8s, twirl, marathons, snickers, dido, maltesers, hersheys, bournville chocolate, revels, cadbury orange,  freddos, chocolate mice, fudge, coffee creams, strawberry chocolate, trio, penguin, blue riband, viscount, flake, picnic, star bar, lion bar, topic.


DONE.

That's it. We're all done. No more to mention. The pun fest is FINISHED. Kaput.

Back to Hourihane or rolo -poly McCormack.

Depends which one can Walnut whip a better ball in.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: VILLA MOLE on January 22, 2017, 04:42:15 PM
coasters surely
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: newryvillain on January 22, 2017, 04:50:10 PM
Not sure about coasters, but reminded me of a Tasters, like little balls of Dairy Milk.
I liked them.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: VILLA MOLE on January 22, 2017, 04:55:14 PM
Not sure about coasters, but reminded me of a Tasters, like little balls of Dairy Milk.
I liked them.

my bad ,  I think that was what I was thinking of . thanks
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on January 22, 2017, 05:34:57 PM
McCaramack is finished here.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: BOB MANSFIELD on January 22, 2017, 05:51:48 PM
Rock-on Rossy can rolo off to Blacpool with Natty Delfoneso. Tasty duo, eh?
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: peter w on January 22, 2017, 06:34:29 PM
Right, boost, wispa, twix, mars, raider, turkish delight, chomp, crunchie, dairy milk, double decker, drifter, aero, fruit & nut, yorkie, curly wurly, toffee and all its manifestations, caramac,buttons, milky bar, lindt, lindor, ferrero rochet, milky way, galaxy, dime, bluebird, nougat, marshmallows, poppets, smarties, M&ms, after 8s, twirl, marathons, snickers, dido, maltesers, hersheys, bournville chocolate, revels, cadbury orange,  freddos, chocolate mice, fudge, coffee creams, strawberry chocolate, trio, penguin, blue riband, viscount, flake, picnic, star bar, lion bar, topic.


DONE.

That's it. We're all done. No more to mention. The pun fest is FINISHED. Kaput.

Back to Hourihane or rolo -poly McCormack.

Kit Kat. Fucking Kit Kat!

Ah, balls.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: BOB MANSFIELD on January 22, 2017, 06:37:41 PM
Would those be Aero Mint flavoured ?
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: gnrpoison on January 22, 2017, 06:56:08 PM
I like that the thread topic puns have all 'fuse' together. A hell of a 'dream' combination. Celebrations all around.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Ads on January 22, 2017, 06:58:09 PM
Nixon suggesting that what we're paying him has put everybody else off.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: oldtimernow on January 22, 2017, 07:01:14 PM
Don't egg him on unless you wanted to be cremed
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Old Kodjia on January 22, 2017, 07:02:33 PM
Nixon suggesting that what we're paying him has put everybody else off.

Well it will be a damn sight more than £30k then, surely?

There are plenty in the division on more than that-I'd imagine a PL side would go in with at least £30k, probably a lot more.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: CJ on January 22, 2017, 07:03:47 PM
I think we should declare Time Out on this punathon - peter w's list is pretty comprehensive - he's Kinder got the lot
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: eamonn on January 22, 2017, 07:03:52 PM
Nixon suggesting that what we're paying him has put everybody else off.

Hmm, is our prestige and the thought of his mucker Bree joining him not enough? I guess if we were even six points better off we wouldn't have to be racking up the wage bill so much with the new signings.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Ads on January 22, 2017, 07:38:18 PM
I don't mind us paying good players good wages.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: BOB MANSFIELD on January 22, 2017, 08:32:08 PM
That would be like becoming Barnsleys Reserves on treble wages, wouldn't it ?
How sad that we see our way forward from buying up Barnsley..........OMG.
Whatever happened to Crewe and Sheffield Utd rezzers ?
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Steve67 on January 22, 2017, 10:28:07 PM
That would be like becoming Barnsleys Reserves on treble wages, wouldn't it ?
How sad that we see our way forward from buying up Barnsley..........OMG.
Whatever happened to Crewe and Sheffield Utd rezzers ?

I seem to recall Villa buying some bloke from Burnley way back, oh, and a journeyman centre forward and a couple of Scottish chaps from not Celtic or Rangers. You never know, it just might work again.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: SheffieldVillain on January 22, 2017, 10:45:55 PM
That would be like becoming Barnsleys Reserves on treble wages, wouldn't it ?
How sad that we see our way forward from buying up Barnsley..........OMG.
Whatever happened to Crewe and Sheffield Utd rezzers ?

No, because we're not buying reserve players, are we? We're buying two of their best players. Who gives a stuff where players come from as long as they are good players.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: ozzjim on January 23, 2017, 07:21:18 AM
Our best signings last summer were an Albion reserve, a Middlesbrough squad player and a Bristol City player.  2 lads from Barnsley could be inspired.  We need players that will perform in this division.  By that token if Hourihane signs, we are buying statistically the best midfielder in the league this season.  Just a shame there is not a similar forward.  Have West Ham bought Hogan yet from Brentford?
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Hookeysmith on January 23, 2017, 08:58:51 AM
Our best signings last summer were an Albion reserve, a Middlesbrough squad player and a Bristol City player.  2 lads from Barnsley could be inspired.  We need players that will perform in this division.  By that token if Hourihane signs, we are buying statistically the best midfielder in the league this season.  Just a shame there is not a similar forward.  Have West Ham bought Hogan yet from Brentford?

Hogan was left out at the weekend but I think he is out of our price range
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: peter w on January 23, 2017, 10:23:11 AM
Too cheap?
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: mr underhill on January 23, 2017, 12:23:47 PM
indeed, we only specialize in Grade A, top end bellends
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: sirlordbaltimore on January 23, 2017, 01:14:20 PM
That would be like becoming Barnsleys Reserves on treble wages, wouldn't it ?
How sad that we see our way forward from buying up Barnsley..........OMG.
Whatever happened to Crewe and Sheffield Utd rezzers ?

head in hands ... ::)
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Oscar Arce on January 23, 2017, 01:22:17 PM
Hourihane is a good player, gets forward and creates and scores from midfield, we haven't had anyone like that for years.
He's on an upward curve in his career and would be perfect for us.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Mostinho II on January 23, 2017, 01:25:46 PM
I hope we sign him. Purely for the fact that I would like to sing "here I am, rock you like a Hourihane!" a la 80's rock band 'The Scorpions'.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Singapore Villa on January 23, 2017, 01:25:46 PM
Stop talking out of your arce Oscar...

Slash... I agree with you mate!  Fingers crossed.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Clark W Griswold on January 23, 2017, 01:56:22 PM
That would be like becoming Barnsleys Reserves on treble wages, wouldn't it ?
How sad that we see our way forward from buying up Barnsley..........OMG.
Whatever happened to Crewe and Sheffield Utd rezzers ?

No, because we're not buying reserve players, are we? We're buying two of their best players. Who gives a stuff where players come from as long as they are good players.

Platt from Crewe, Yorke off the beach, more recently Benteke from wherever the hell that was and Kodjia from Bristol City.
Other clubs, Kante from Caen, Vardy from Fleetwood and Dele Ali from MK Dons. I could go on.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Dave P on January 23, 2017, 03:07:36 PM
Chester from Smethwick.  The list goes on!
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: ozzjim on January 23, 2017, 04:25:56 PM
Hourihane may be close to signing but he has been pictured go karting with the Barnsley squad this afternoon
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: VinnieChase84 on January 23, 2017, 04:29:25 PM
Hourihane may be close to signing but he has been pictured go karting with the Barnsley squad this afternoon
Medical tonight though so Karting in the day wouldn't be an issue
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: eamonn on January 23, 2017, 04:30:52 PM
Hourihane may be close to signing but he has been pictured go karting with the Barnsley squad this afternoon
Medical tonight though so Karting in the day wouldn't be an issue

It will be if he fucks himself coming around a hairpin bend.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: GordonCowansisthegreatest on January 23, 2017, 04:54:17 PM
Hourihane may be close to signing but he has been pictured go karting with the Barnsley squad this afternoon
Medical tonight though so Karting in the day wouldn't be an issue

It will be if he fucks himself coming around a hairpin bend.
That would be quite a feat;-)
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on January 23, 2017, 04:54:38 PM
It's his leaving do.  They are having chicken in a basket afterwards at the Go Karting track.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Ads on January 23, 2017, 04:59:06 PM
That Twitter bloke, Villa transfers, has said he is listed for a medical tonight and Bree tomorrow.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Richard E on January 23, 2017, 04:59:42 PM
That Twitter bloke, Villa transfers, has said he is listed for a medical tonight and Bree tomorrow.

And he has been 100% so far.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Ads on January 23, 2017, 05:03:16 PM
Yeah he has a good record. He seems to post independently of what the papers say and I would imagine knows somebody at the medical centre.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: footyskillz on January 23, 2017, 05:04:10 PM
Go karting??

Called a leaving do !!
He's coming already! 

This is the chant! 
"And here's to you Conor hourihane villa love you more than you know "

He follow Dr xia on Twitter and all the other hard pork evidence means it's just agreeing everything.  I have to say I'm very excited by this imminent move. 
I bet he wins at go karting too the guys a boss 

Can we change thread title "and here's to you Conor hourihane once it's official . "

He seduced us all
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: cdbullyweefan on January 23, 2017, 05:17:04 PM
We're going to need more lyrics than that, Footyskillz. Can you post a few verses?
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: pauliewalnuts on January 23, 2017, 05:18:14 PM
Quote from: Mark E. Smith
Go karting??

Called a leaving do !!
He's coming already! 

This is the chant! 
"And here's to you Conor hourihane villa love you more than you know "

He follow Dr xia on Twitter and all the other hard pork evidence means it's just agreeing everything.  I have to say I'm very excited by this imminent move. 
I bet he wins at go karting too the guys a boss 

Can we change thread title "and here's to you Conor hourihane once it's official . "

He seduced us all

Mark E Smith's lyrics are getting weirder and weirder as he ages.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Percy McCarthy on January 23, 2017, 05:36:03 PM
"Hard pork evidence".

I hate it when I'm out of the loop on new slang.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: brian green on January 23, 2017, 05:43:26 PM
He means the phone lines are crackling.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: TheMalandro on January 23, 2017, 05:45:37 PM
He means the phone lines are crackling.

Damn you Brian, just about to say crackling signing
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Mister E on January 23, 2017, 05:46:06 PM
He means the phone lines are crackling.
Let's hope it's not just another snout in the trough.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Mister E on January 23, 2017, 05:46:50 PM
 Can we now sign Rodney Trotter from Stoke?
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: TheMalandro on January 23, 2017, 05:46:56 PM
I'd be sow sad if we miss out
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: cheltenhamlion on January 23, 2017, 06:00:39 PM
The whole story is hogwash.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: UK Redsox on January 23, 2017, 06:01:28 PM
I hope we sign him. Purely for the fact that I would like to sing "here I am, rock you like a Hourihane!" a la 80's rock band 'The Scorpions'.

Ahem.......

How do we pronounce Hourihane anyway ?

Is it "Hour" or "Who" and is it "Han" or "Haine" ?

The latter and the former respectively. No links to Luke that we know of.

I was thinking more in terms of a Scorpions "Rock You Like a Hourihane" song.

I doubt that even the Holte End could could cope with a Luke based chant.


....... having said that "Unsolved Mid-Fielder" could work ;)

......and why are you calling The Scorpions an 80s band? They're still going strong.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: berneboy on January 23, 2017, 06:02:21 PM
That Twitter bloke, Villa transfers, has said he is listed for a medical tonight and Bree tomorrow.

He/she now tweets:

It's changed!! James Bree Tonight, Conor Hourihane tomorrow morning - both in next 36 hours - superb business either way! Welcome To #AVFC
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: cheltenhamlion on January 23, 2017, 06:07:04 PM
He gets stuck in. Can take a set piece. Act as a playmaker. Has a left foot. What's not to like?
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: ozzjim on January 23, 2017, 06:07:13 PM
Most excited i have been about a new signing in a long time this one. Something about midfielders with good left feet.  Bit like a left arm fast bowler, just good to watch. 

Barnsley fans on twitter were quoting footyskils yesterday about them being a small club.  They were not happy.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: brian green on January 23, 2017, 06:13:04 PM
I hope the Barnsley fans know he incurred our wrath and apologised.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: eamonn on January 23, 2017, 06:15:29 PM
Footyskillz is endlessly quotable in fairness. Glenn Peen has been usurped.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: cheltenhamlion on January 23, 2017, 06:33:25 PM
Footyskillz is endlessly quotable in fairness. Glenn Peen has been usurped.

I envisage him as the pastor from Coming to America.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Mister E on January 23, 2017, 06:33:25 PM
Most excited i have been about a new signing in a long time this one. Something about midfielders with good left feet.  Bit like a left arm fast bowler, just good to watch. 

Barnsley fans on twitter were quoting footyskils yesterday about them being a small club.  They were not happy.

Thanks for that, Yoda.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: footyskillz on January 23, 2017, 06:33:48 PM
You pronounce hourihaine  like the song misses Robin-saine !
And I have to stand by and say villa are bigger than barnsley and I do feel Bolton Sheff Utd milwall Charlton to name a few are bigger clubs. I apologise if I sounded belittling to Barnsley football club facts are players want to play for the villa Conor hooray said it himself .
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Mister E on January 23, 2017, 06:37:28 PM
Mrs Robinson was not from the Deep South of the USA, footy.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: cheltenhamlion on January 23, 2017, 06:39:08 PM
Connor Hooray loves the Lord. ....
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: brian green on January 23, 2017, 06:42:17 PM
My respectful image of footy is Griffin in Men in Black3.  A perpetually anxious clairvoyant.  Hard pork indeed.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: cheltenhamlion on January 23, 2017, 06:47:15 PM
My respectful image of footy is Griffin in Men in Black3.  A perpetually anxious clairvoyant.  Hard pork indeed.

I have deleted lots of jokes I was going to make about hard pork.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Tokyo Sexwhale on January 23, 2017, 08:59:11 PM
I hope neither of them are suede by last minute bids from other clubs.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: QuintonVilla on January 23, 2017, 09:04:33 PM
Bree nearly done but there's a hold up in the Hourihane deal apparantly. Hopefully not a last minute bid from a Premier League team.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: dave shelley on January 23, 2017, 09:08:58 PM
Bree nearly done but there's a hold up in the Hourihane deal apparantly. Hopefully not a last minute bid from a Premier League team.

Link please.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: QuintonVilla on January 23, 2017, 09:11:04 PM
Bree nearly done but there's a hold up in the Hourihane deal apparantly. Hopefully not a last minute bid from a Premier League team.

Link please.
The Twitter fella again, Villa Transfers. Says it shouldn't be a deal breaker but there is a hold up.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: dave shelley on January 23, 2017, 09:13:52 PM
Ta.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: olaftab on January 23, 2017, 09:14:41 PM
He gets stuck in. Can take a set piece. Act as a playmaker. Has a left foot. What's not to like?
Just checked and believe it or not I also have a left foot, I get stuck in if there is a free buffet, act as a good playmaker at charades and can take on a set piece of trifle no problem.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: dave shelley on January 23, 2017, 09:19:58 PM
I don't do Twitter but had a squint into this Villatransfers account and saw this:

Hourihane deal is not off, stop panicking villa fans......Bree just got over the line first, things change at times, I expect CH to come
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: ozzjim on January 23, 2017, 09:20:51 PM
Still reckon a prem team will nab him.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: BOB MANSFIELD on January 23, 2017, 09:21:24 PM
Maybe he's read all the fuss and wants assured HIS house will have manual gates?
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: BOB MANSFIELD on January 23, 2017, 09:22:14 PM
Maybe the Bree deal will go down to the wire...................
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Old Kodjia on January 23, 2017, 09:22:51 PM
Bree nearly done but there's a hold up in the Hourihane deal apparantly. Hopefully not a last minute bid from a Premier League team.

Link please.
The Twitter fella again, Villa Transfers. Says it shouldn't be a deal breaker but there is a hold up.

Hopefully, he/she is just being a drama queen.

I can't imagine an issue arising at this time of night, other than if it happened hours earlier and only just filtered through.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: QuintonVilla on January 23, 2017, 09:22:57 PM
I don't do Twitter but had a squint into this Villatransfers account and saw this:

Hourihane deal is not off, stop panicking villa fans......Bree just got over the line first, things change at times, I expect CH to come
Yeah he just tweeted that as after he put the other tweet he got bombarded by Villa fans asking him if the deal was off ;D

Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: cdward on January 23, 2017, 09:23:19 PM
Bree nearly done but there's a hold up in the Hourihane deal apparantly. Hopefully not a last minute bid from a Premier League team.

gate problem?
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Tokyo Sexwhale on January 23, 2017, 09:27:14 PM
Maybe the Bree deal will go down to the wire...................

Said on Twitter it was stilton.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: BOB MANSFIELD on January 23, 2017, 09:27:26 PM
There are electric gates around Barnsley ?????????
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: BOB MANSFIELD on January 23, 2017, 09:37:06 PM
Maybe the Bree deal will go down to the wire...................

Said on Twitter it was stilton.
Bree on the right, Camembert on the left, now all we need is a good Gorgonzolakeeper and the back 3's sorted.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Chris87 on January 23, 2017, 09:40:19 PM
Maybe the Bree deal will go down to the wire...................

Said on Twitter it was stilton.
Bree on the right, Camembert on the left, now all we need is a good Gorgonzolakeeper and the back 3's sorted.

We have a Baker. If all else fails we can make a nice cheese sandwich!
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: BOB MANSFIELD on January 23, 2017, 09:47:31 PM
....would go down well with a nice drop of Claret [& Blue of course]
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: QuintonVilla on January 23, 2017, 10:04:13 PM
Dan Donachie, our head of sports science, has just Tweeted a picture of BMH with the caption 'Late one tonight...'
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: UK Redsox on January 23, 2017, 10:13:35 PM
As someone mentioned on Twitter, this was probably the last time Villa signed two players from the same club

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C23S2CkXgAMkk68?format=jpg&name=large)
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Chris Jameson on January 23, 2017, 10:13:57 PM
You pronounce hourihaine  like the song misses Robin-saine !
And I have to stand by and say villa are bigger than barnsley and I do feel Bolton Sheff Utd milwall Charlton to name a few are bigger clubs. I apologise if I sounded belittling to Barnsley football club facts are players want to play for the villa Conor hooray said it himself .

Any Barnsley fans having a look on here, please note he isn't all Villa supporters. Any Millwall supporters, he definitely isn't.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Villafirst on January 23, 2017, 10:17:02 PM
How come on 'Deadline Day' bids are made at ten to midnight and the player is signed at 11.59pm?
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: olaftab on January 23, 2017, 10:17:23 PM
Thanks QV. Keep it up your posts are very encouraging.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: VILLA MOLE on January 23, 2017, 10:18:29 PM
As someone mentioned on Twitter, this was probably the last time Villa signed two players from the same club

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C23S2CkXgAMkk68?format=jpg&name=large)


well now I wont sleep :-\
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: dave shelley on January 23, 2017, 10:20:22 PM
I'm wondering which one this is.  I read villatransfers earlier tweet and took it to mean that the Bree deal was done and would be announced tomorrow.  I sincerley hope that this late one is Hourihane.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: QuintonVilla on January 23, 2017, 10:22:45 PM
I reckon this medical tonight is Bree, and the deal will be announced tomorrow morning/lunchtime. Hourihane will run into Wednesday (the day, not the team!) imo.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Dante Lavelli on January 23, 2017, 10:30:15 PM
Shouldn't there be a Bree thread (player, not cheeses)?  What position does he play etc?
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: dave.woodhall on January 23, 2017, 10:36:12 PM
How come on 'Deadline Day' bids are made at ten to midnight and the player is signed at 11.59pm?

They put yellow stickers on the players and their price is halved.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: peter w on January 24, 2017, 05:22:22 AM
Go karting??

Called a leaving do !!
He's coming already! 

This is the chant! 
"And here's to you Conor hourihane villa love you more than you know "

He follow Dr xia on Twitter and all the other hard pork evidence means it's just agreeing everything.  I have to say I'm very excited by this imminent move. 
I bet he wins at go karting too the guys a boss 

Can we change thread title "and here's to you Conor hourihane once it's official . "

He seduced us all

second line could go something like:

He came with Bree Conor hourihane and not the French cheese oh no no no no no no
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: KevinGage on January 24, 2017, 07:28:50 AM
You hum it...
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: mattjpa on January 24, 2017, 07:44:45 AM
Footy getting seduced by Hourihanes hard pork, ey?

Matron
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: LeeB on January 24, 2017, 07:56:38 AM
Footyskillz is endlessly quotable in fairness. Glenn Peen has been usurped.

I envisage him as the pastor from Coming to America.

Now I see him more as Randy Watson:

"I believe Jay Spearing is our future......"
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: lovejoy on January 24, 2017, 08:17:27 AM
Picture of him stretching the shirt when available please?
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Richard E on January 24, 2017, 08:31:03 AM
"I believe Jay Spearing is our future......"

"...teach him well and let him lead the way. Show him all the beauty we possess inside..."
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: themossman on January 24, 2017, 08:33:40 AM
Not strictly relevant to the discussion but every time I hum that tune it morphs into mis-shapes by Pulp.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: footyskillz on January 24, 2017, 08:34:05 AM
John Connor Hourihane the leader of the worldwide human Resistance.
I think the terminator music should be played at unveiling
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: eamonn on January 24, 2017, 08:36:13 AM
Not strictly relevant to the discussion but every time I hum that tune it morphs into mis-shapes by Pulp.

I hope we're making a move and making it now.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: footyskillz on January 24, 2017, 08:44:18 AM
Footy getting seduced by Hourihanes hard pork, ey?

Matron

It's the way he plays with the ball
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: QuintonVilla on January 24, 2017, 08:56:07 AM
Pat Murphy has tweeted that Barnsley don't have a chief executive which is causing the delay. He also said that Premier League clubs are still circling him aswell.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Havencheese on January 24, 2017, 09:04:45 AM
Pat Murphy has tweeted that Barnsley don't have a chief executive which is causing the delay. He also said that Premier League clubs are still circling him aswell.

I smell bullshit coming from the general direction of South Yorkshire.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: damon loves JT on January 24, 2017, 09:07:09 AM
To be fair, if he is good enough for us then he is probably good enough for the likes of Swansea or Sunderland or Palace.

Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Singapore Villa on January 24, 2017, 09:30:13 AM
To be fair, if he is good enough for us then he is probably good enough for the likes of Swansea or Sunderland or Palace.


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To be fair, if he is good enough for us then he is probably good enough for the likes of Swansea or Sunderland or Palace.


To be fair, if he is good enough for us then he is probably good enough for the likes of Swansea or Sunderland or Palace.



Whilst I completely agree, just shows how far our stock has fallen in the last couple of years.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: damon loves JT on January 24, 2017, 09:39:45 AM
Well yes, but its not much of a surprise. Most players would sooner be at the arse end of the Premier League than the middle of the championship, it's nothing to do with Aston Villa.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: He wears a magic hat on January 24, 2017, 09:45:27 AM
Pat Murphy has tweeted that Barnsley don't have a chief executive which is causing the delay. He also said that Premier League clubs are still circling him aswell.

So they have a chief executive available to complete the Bree deal but not for Hourihane.

Really what shit reporting
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Clampy on January 24, 2017, 09:51:03 AM
Pat has made a bit of a fool of himself this morning it seems. He tweeted that there was no late night medical for Bree last night and none planned for today. An hour later, Bree is having his photo taken in the club shirt.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: chrisw1 on January 24, 2017, 09:55:26 AM
Do we know what the hold up is for Hourihane?  I hope we haven't pushed to hard on this.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: exiled on the wirral! on January 24, 2017, 10:19:50 AM
Pat has made a bit of a fool of himself this morning it seems. He tweeted that there was no late night medical for Bree last night and none planned for today. An hour later, Bree is having his photo taken in the club shirt.
I remember Murphy saying Kodja's transfer was dead in the water...he was announced as a Villa player 3 hours later. Personally the fella should stick to Cricket.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: eamonn on January 24, 2017, 10:36:34 AM
He's a professional cynic but his heart's not in it.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: themossman on January 24, 2017, 10:37:45 AM
Not strictly relevant to the discussion but every time I hum that tune it morphs into mis-shapes by Pulp.

I hope we're making a move and making it now.

Haha you're not helping. In case of interest my version goes like this:

I believe the children are our are future/
Teach them well and let them lead the way/
Show them all the beauty they possess insiaaaaa-yeah/
We want your homes, we want your lives/
We want the things you won't allow us/
We won't use guns, we won't use bombs, etc.

Repeat until insane.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: VILLA MOLE on January 24, 2017, 10:39:33 AM
He's a professional cynic but his heart's not in it.


I also think he tweets to justify his existence in modern media
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: damon loves JT on January 24, 2017, 10:46:53 AM
He's a professional cynic but his heart's not in it.


I also think he tweets to justify his existence in modern media

I understand that he lives in a substantial rural dwelling
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Risso on January 24, 2017, 10:52:30 AM
He's a professional cynic but his heart's not in it.


I also think he tweets to justify his existence in modern media

I understand that he lives in a substantial rural dwelling

Here's hoping the electric gates work.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Eckybloke on January 24, 2017, 10:59:12 AM
He's a professional cynic but his heart's not in it.


I also think he tweets to justify his existence in modern media

I understand that he lives in a substantial rural dwelling

That makes me so sad but I don't know why.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Clark W Griswold on January 24, 2017, 11:01:40 AM
Quite, I mean if they're over 4 foot how would he get out?
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Risso on January 24, 2017, 11:16:41 AM
Pat has made a bit of a fool of himself this morning it seems. He tweeted that there was no late night medical for Bree last night and none planned for today. An hour later, Bree is having his photo taken in the club shirt.

He's now having a right strop and taking his ball home! Hilarious, the silly arse.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Percy McCarthy on January 24, 2017, 11:17:52 AM
Pat has made a bit of a fool of himself this morning it seems. He tweeted that there was no late night medical for Bree last night and none planned for today. An hour later, Bree is having his photo taken in the club shirt.

He's now having a right strop and taking his ball home! Hilarious, the silly arse.

On twitter?
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Ads on January 24, 2017, 12:11:07 PM
He said there was a medical for Bree because he saw him, there wasn't one for Hourihane.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Ads on January 24, 2017, 12:20:28 PM
Sorry, thought you mean the Villa Transfers bloke.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Phil from the upper holte on January 24, 2017, 12:25:04 PM
Any updates? Have we signed the fecker or not?
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Phil from the upper holte on January 24, 2017, 12:50:43 PM
How can we sign Bree if they don't have a cho but not Hourihane?
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: maidstonevillain on January 24, 2017, 12:54:39 PM
How can we sign Bree if they don't have a cho but not Hourihane?

Hourihane transaction is probably above the deputy CEOs pay grade.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Ads on January 24, 2017, 12:57:37 PM
The Villa Transfers bloke reckons he will know more by 2pm. Whether that's on Hourihane or the 3rd player remains to be seen.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Clark W Griswold on January 24, 2017, 01:31:39 PM
This ones been 'edging closer' every 4 hours for the past week. Whatever it's edging closer to must be considering a restraining order by now.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Bottom Right 89 on January 24, 2017, 01:36:49 PM
This Hourihane signing is like waiting for a Commodore 64 game to load - have we reached 96% yet?
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Nunkin1965 on January 24, 2017, 01:39:56 PM
Now that brings back frustrating, nightmarish memories!
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Clark W Griswold on January 24, 2017, 01:40:30 PM
This Hourihane signing is like waiting for a Commodore 64 game to load - have we reached 96% yet?

As long as the screen doesn't go blank and it reset to the boot up screen.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: LeeS on January 24, 2017, 02:26:33 PM
This Hourihane signing is like waiting for a Commodore 64 game to load - have we reached 96% yet?

As long as the screen doesn't go blank and it reset to the boot up screen.

I think this one has reached the "pause of death". You know deep down that it isn't going to load but you keep watching the screen anyway.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: chrisw1 on January 24, 2017, 02:30:25 PM
can't you just rewind the tape player a bit?
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: godzvilla on January 24, 2017, 02:33:49 PM
This Hourihane signing is like waiting for a Commodore 64 game to load - have we reached 96% yet?

As long as the screen doesn't go blank and it reset to the boot up screen.

Apparently the hold up is due to the fact that Barnsley's  chief executive, has just left the Club , this has complicated both deals, although Bree signed today ( at least he's ' in the shirt ' !)....according to the Head Cheese at Villa Park.
Another hiccup is that Plymouth Argyle are due a proportion of Villa's fee to Barnsley, cue more negotiotions .
Worringly, for us ...the delay could alert a number of Premier League clubs, but the ball is in Barnsley's court.............Godzvilla!

 

   
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: aev on January 24, 2017, 02:35:43 PM
Was Bree also the Chief Exec?
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Des Little on January 24, 2017, 02:46:43 PM
If any Prem clubs weren't aware of such a decent player being out of contract in the summer and therefore available for pennies now, they must be run along the same lines as we were under Tom the Twat.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: eamonn on January 24, 2017, 03:18:29 PM
In a way it's (pleasantly) surprising that the player isn't waiting until the summer to move when he might have more offers and stand to earn more money with the signing-on fee as a free agent.
Let's be honest, it's going to be a lot more fun playing for high-flying, over-achieving Barnsley for the next few months than for our sorry bunch of misfits.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Bottom Right 89 on January 24, 2017, 03:35:27 PM
This Hourihane signing is like waiting for a Commodore 64 game to load - have we reached 96% yet?

As long as the screen doesn't go blank and it reset to the boot up screen.

I think this one has reached the "pause of death". You know deep down that it isn't going to load but you keep watching the screen anyway.
Can everyone keep still and keep your mobile phones away from the cassette player.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: maidstonevillain on January 24, 2017, 03:41:15 PM
If any Prem clubs weren't aware of such a decent player being out of contract in the summer and therefore available for pennies now, they must be run along the same lines as we were under Tom the Twat.
Or perhaps they are not interested in a player who was released by Ipswich without ever playing a first team game, spent most of his career at League 2 Plymouth, and despite playing for Repub Ireland U19 and U12, has not been called up for the first team.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: darren woolley on January 24, 2017, 03:47:20 PM
I just wish we could get this transfer over the line before anybody steals him from us.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: sid1964 on January 24, 2017, 04:00:41 PM
Lets hope that IF he does sign that he will improve our team!
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: eamonn on January 24, 2017, 04:14:49 PM
If any Prem clubs weren't aware of such a decent player being out of contract in the summer and therefore available for pennies now, they must be run along the same lines as we were under Tom the Twat.
Or perhaps they are not interested in a player who was released by Ipswich without ever playing a first team game, spent most of his career at League 2 Plymouth, and despite playing for Repub Ireland U19 and U12, has not been called up for the first team.


Agreed, he's crap. Let's move on to more proven targets.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Lsvilla on January 24, 2017, 04:29:23 PM
I'm assuming that the reason James Bree hasn't been formally unveiled - despite the pictures all over twitter of him in the shirt - is because the club want to do them as a pair - probably tomorrow at BMH. I will continue to take comfort from this and assume the transfer is going ahead until I get home tonight and see Bree announced, at which time I shall conclude this one might be getting away.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: mr underhill on January 24, 2017, 05:01:21 PM
Why would not having a CEO hinder the cH deal but not the one for Bree?
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: JUAN PABLO on January 24, 2017, 06:03:45 PM
Why would not having a CEO hinder the cH deal but not the one for Bree?

good point


maybe its the Plymouth thing or Barnsley did not want the Westwood swap :)
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Ads on January 24, 2017, 06:08:27 PM
Agents fees is the gold up.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: BOB MANSFIELD on January 24, 2017, 08:33:12 PM
Why would not having a CEO hinder the cH deal but not the one for Bree?

good point


maybe its the Plymouth thing or Barnsley did not want the Westwood swap :)

Oh crikey, yes.
I forgot we could do that sort of thing. Are you sure anybody would want ANY of our players ( excluding Angela of course )

Oh poo now it's happening. AV mentioned twice and on comes Kodjia  (plus bandage) to replace Wilfried Zaha !!
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Villafirst on January 24, 2017, 09:25:44 PM
John Percy of the Telegraph tweeted that Conor Hourihane set for medical at Villa....usually reliable.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: BOB MANSFIELD on January 24, 2017, 09:27:57 PM
This Percy Tweety stuff is all too much.
Whatever happened to the nervous wait for the actual newspaper to be delivered?
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: olaftab on January 24, 2017, 09:31:26 PM
Agents fees is the gold up.
Agents always drink from the gold cup...bastards.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: BOB MANSFIELD on January 24, 2017, 09:35:00 PM
Isn't there ....or shouldn't there be... a list of Agents who represent which players ?
Or is that top secret ?
[to avoid Dexter Blackstock ever getting on it ]
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: footyskillz on January 24, 2017, 09:44:08 PM
Isn't there ....or shouldn't there be... a list of Agents who represent which players ?
Or is that top secret ?
[to avoid Dexter Blackstock ever getting on it ]

Conor has same agent as Sam Johnstone and Jordan Rhodes . Bruce gets players from there. 
Gardner brothers too have same agency .
So ya know. 


Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: footyskillz on January 24, 2017, 09:46:15 PM
James Grant agency. It's decent . Has links and is one of 5 main ones .
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: cdbullyweefan on January 24, 2017, 09:50:02 PM
Isn't there ....or shouldn't there be... a list of Agents who represent which players ?
Or is that top secret ?
[to avoid Dexter Blackstock ever getting on it ]

Lots of the player agents or agencies are listed on Transfermarkt.

This potential target is represented by a group called "Relatives" (I assume they aren't his actual relatives as they seem to represent hundreds of players).

 http://tinyurl.com/hldybea

Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Nelson Lodge on January 25, 2017, 09:34:38 AM
At 9-02 am this morning Sky Transfer Centre have him at number 9 in their top 10 Whisper board for s transfer to .....................

Crystal Palace !
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: VILLA MOLE on January 25, 2017, 09:36:42 AM
At 9-02 am this morning Sky Transfer Centre have him at number 9 in their top 10 Whisper board for s transfer to .....................

Crystal Palace !


I think the clue is in the words  whispers and sky sports, lets not panic
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Phil from the upper holte on January 25, 2017, 09:58:41 AM
At 9-02 am this morning Sky Transfer Centre have him at number 9 in their top 10 Whisper board for s transfer to .....................

Crystal Palace !

What the fuck is a whispers board?
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: peter w on January 25, 2017, 10:07:12 AM
DON'T!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: TheMalandro on January 25, 2017, 10:27:19 AM
Shhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: UK Redsox on January 25, 2017, 11:04:46 AM
At 9-02 am this morning Sky Transfer Centre have him at number 9 in their top 10 Whisper board for s transfer to .....................

Crystal Palace !

What the fuck is a whispers board?

(http://e1.365dm.com/16/06/16-9/20/football-whispers-algorithm-explanation_3484480.jpg?20160615144435)


....alternatively

(http://www.danvaroy.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/Sailing-test-the-wind.jpg)
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: mr underhill on January 25, 2017, 11:20:54 AM
The longer this drags on the more likely it is that he's going somewhere else
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Clampy on January 25, 2017, 11:24:29 AM
The longer this drags on the more likely it is that he's going somewhere else

It's only dragged on more or less the same amount of time that the Bree deal has.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: avfcpg on January 25, 2017, 12:53:28 PM
Just picked this up off a Barnsley forum in light of the Palace rumours....Think palace have just bid for Brady anyway.

"Someone's just messaged me who says he knows Hourihanes family . Says this is boloxs and Hourihane is a done deal to Villa . Reckons announcement in next couple of hours"
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: BOB MANSFIELD on January 25, 2017, 01:06:34 PM
Where's that person who took the sneaky Instagram photo of James Bree............? Let's have a repeat for Hollogram
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: godzvilla on January 25, 2017, 01:13:02 PM
From the 'Meaning Evil'....1.25 mil sounds incredibly cheap..............Godzvilla!
 "Aston Villa are set to complete the signing of Barnsley midfielder Conor Hourihane for a fee believed to be in the region of £1.25million.
Hourihane will sign what is believed to be a four and a half year deal and becomes the club's latest signing in the transfer window"
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: BOB MANSFIELD on January 25, 2017, 01:16:42 PM
Where is that blooming Streeeeeeeeeeeeeeeetch pic then ?
Getting fretful when BB gets in the news first.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Tokyo Sexwhale on January 25, 2017, 01:21:30 PM
.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: BOB MANSFIELD on January 25, 2017, 01:32:36 PM
I've done that nothing post before, too.

Anyway, I just realised CH comes AFTER BB........
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Nelson Lodge on January 25, 2017, 03:20:10 PM
At 9-02 am this morning Sky Transfer Centre have him at number 9 in their top 10 Whisper board for s transfer to .....................

Crystal Palace !


I think the clue is in the words  whispers and sky sports, lets not panic

So it should be retitled "Careless Whispers" then ! :)


Question that now springs to mind is the signing of the Icelandic BB the back up plan as the club think the CH deal is going belly up ?
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: sid1964 on January 25, 2017, 03:28:39 PM
In all honesty if he has the choice to play for Palace in the Premier League rather than us, I am sure he would take it!
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: eamonn on January 25, 2017, 03:30:13 PM
Who's more persuasive, Sam or Steve?
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: maidstonevillain on January 25, 2017, 03:34:20 PM
From the 'Meaning Evil'....1.25 mil sounds incredibly cheap..............Godzvilla!
 "Aston Villa are set to complete the signing of Barnsley midfielder Conor Hourihane for a fee believed to be in the region of £1.25million.
Hourihane will sign what is believed to be a four and a half year deal and becomes the club's latest signing in the transfer window"

Feel a bit sorry for Plymouth if they were on a percentage. They lose out because his contract had been run down.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Villafirst on January 25, 2017, 03:38:59 PM
What's the word from Villatransfers on Twitter?. Usually pretty accurate. Seems to be dragging after Tony's 99% tweet?
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: manic-road on January 25, 2017, 04:31:42 PM
Still no news on Hourihane, getting nervous now as he looks like he could be a could addition to the team. Hope no one else has come in for him.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Lsvilla on January 25, 2017, 04:34:43 PM
What's the word from Villatransfers on Twitter?. Usually pretty accurate. Seems to be dragging after Tony's 99% tweet?
Said the following about 20 mins ago:

still expecting Hourihane today, even if it is tomorrow - he will be a villa player. I hope it's done today people are panicking as it is
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: berneboy on January 25, 2017, 04:34:45 PM
What's the word from Villatransfers on Twitter?. Usually pretty accurate. Seems to be dragging after Tony's 99% tweet?

He says:
still expecting Hourihane today, even if it is tomorrow - he will be a villa player. I hope it's done today people are panicking as it is
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: berneboy on January 25, 2017, 04:35:44 PM
Shucks, two seconds too slow ...
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Walmley_Villa on January 25, 2017, 04:54:17 PM
Apparently Palace rumoured to be in for him....
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: paul_e on January 25, 2017, 04:55:49 PM
Matty James has joined Barnsley on loan, i wonder if that's been the hold up.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: onje_villa on January 25, 2017, 05:29:53 PM
Remember feeling like this about Veretout. That didn't work out so well (though I still think he's a decent player)!
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: cheltenhamlion on January 25, 2017, 05:31:47 PM
Matty James has joined Barnsley on loan, i wonder if that's been the hold up.

It has.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: footyskillz on January 25, 2017, 05:36:16 PM
Matty James has joined Barnsley on loan, i wonder if that's been the hold up.

It has.

Barnsley gaffer has said :
"we've seen one midfielder depart this week, but conversely weíve brought in another who is hugely experienced and talented, so Iím delighted that weíve got the deal done."

That's Conor hourihane out Matty James in.
Suitable replacement for them . Good loan option
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: mr underhill on January 25, 2017, 05:39:23 PM
We need to see him in the shirt Slillz
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: dave shelley on January 25, 2017, 06:06:04 PM
I didn't want to start a new thread for this but, seeing how we're doing business with Barnsley there's bound to be a good few looking in here. I got to thinking how many players we've bought from Barnsley in the past.  I can only think of two: Frank Barson and Danny Blanchflower.

I've tried to find somewhere on the net but am drawing a blank.  Anyone know of any others?
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: PeterWithe on January 25, 2017, 06:26:35 PM
Stuart Gray during the last relegation season? Maybe we sold him to them.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: olaftab on January 25, 2017, 06:31:23 PM
In all honesty if he has the choice to play for Palace in the Premier League rather than us, I am sure he would take it!
You mean sit on the bench at Palace or play every week at Villa?
And don't forget if you are an Irish boy you would remember which club your heroes played for😊( ok albeit before he was probably born or very young)
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: cheltenhamlion on January 25, 2017, 06:32:02 PM
He will be confirmed before the weekend.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: dave shelley on January 25, 2017, 06:37:43 PM
I didn't want to start a new thread for this but, seeing how we're doing business with Barnsley there's bound to be a good few looking in here. I got to thinking how many players we've bought from Barnsley in the past.  I can only think of two: Frank Barson and Danny Blanchflower.

I've tried to find somewhere on the net but am drawing a blank.  Anyone know of any others?

Yup.  That's one I never thought of.  Came to us in 1987 and moved him on in 1991 to Southampton.  According to Wiki.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: yammers on January 25, 2017, 06:40:35 PM
I didn't want to start a new thread for this but, seeing how we're doing business with Barnsley there's bound to be a good few looking in here. I got to thinking how many players we've bought from Barnsley in the past.  I can only think of two: Frank Barson and Danny Blanchflower.

I've tried to find somewhere on the net but am drawing a blank.  Anyone know of any others?

Yup.  That's one I never thought of.  Came to us in 1987 and moved him on in 1991 to Southampton.  According to Wiki.

Didn't we sign Lee Butler from Barnsley?
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: frankmosswasmyuncle on January 25, 2017, 06:41:11 PM
He will be confirmed before the weekend.
Come on chelts, I bet he was confirmed bloody years ago! :D
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: cheltenhamlion on January 25, 2017, 06:45:51 PM
He will be confirmed before the weekend.
Come on chelts, I bet he was confirmed bloody years ago! :D

Well that is true enough. The deal has been done for ages now. They wouldn't let him leave before they played the derby with Leeds and then not until they had a replacement. All sorted now.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: LeeB on January 25, 2017, 07:00:33 PM
I didn't want to start a new thread for this but, seeing how we're doing business with Barnsley there's bound to be a good few looking in here. I got to thinking how many players we've bought from Barnsley in the past.  I can only think of two: Frank Barson and Danny Blanchflower.

I've tried to find somewhere on the net but am drawing a blank.  Anyone know of any others?

Yup.  That's one I never thought of.  Came to us in 1987 and moved him on in 1991 to Southampton.  According to Wiki.

Didn't we sign Lee Butler from Barnsley?

Lincoln City.

Stuart Gray is the one that springs to my mind. He was their captain too.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Ian. on January 25, 2017, 07:02:03 PM
I loved Stuart Gray, I thought he was ace.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Percy McCarthy on January 25, 2017, 07:04:42 PM
He will be confirmed before the weekend.
Come on chelts, I bet he was confirmed bloody years ago! :D

Lol, very good.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: BOB MANSFIELD on January 25, 2017, 09:13:21 PM
I loved Stuart Gray, I thought he was ace.
my goodness. you are young and were easily impressionable at that tender age, surely. imho opinion one of the most underwhelming midfielders we've had since alex cropley.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: London Villan on January 25, 2017, 09:14:51 PM
Club captain and great a free kicks if I remember rightly.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: russon on January 25, 2017, 09:15:24 PM
I loved Stuart Gray, I thought he was ace.
my goodness. you are young and were easily impressionable at that tender age, surely. imho opinion one of the most underwhelming midfielders we've had since alex cropley.
Paul Mortimer? His surname promised rather more than he delivered.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Flamingo Lane on January 25, 2017, 09:16:34 PM
I loved Stuart Gray, I thought he was ace.
my goodness. you are young and were easily impressionable at that tender age, surely. imho opinion one of the most underwhelming midfielders we've had since alex cropley.

eh?
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: dave shelley on January 25, 2017, 09:18:31 PM
I loved Stuart Gray, I thought he was ace.
my goodness. you are young and were easily impressionable at that tender age, surely. imho opinion one of the most underwhelming midfielders we've had since alex cropley.

I don't know if I'm reading your post incorrectly Bob so apologies if I am but, are you seriously suggesting Alex Cropley, one of the finest midfielders we've ever had was underwhelming?  Again, apologies if I'm reading you wrong.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: BOB MANSFIELD on January 25, 2017, 09:19:34 PM
you mean you liked him too ?,,,,,,oh dear, outvoted by the cognoscenti.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: West Derby Villan on January 25, 2017, 09:22:52 PM
you mean you liked him too ?,,,,,,oh dear, outvoted by the cognoscenti.


Of course he liked him, Cropley was on of our finest midfielders in recent history
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: CAitken on January 25, 2017, 09:23:06 PM
I loved Stuart Gray, I thought he was ace.
my goodness. you are young and were easily impressionable at that tender age, surely. imho opinion one of the most underwhelming midfielders we've had since alex cropley.
What??? Alex Cropley is the finest Midfielder I have seen play for the Villa in 50 years. A wand of a left foot, a great dribbler and a hell of a shot.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: john e on January 25, 2017, 09:29:30 PM
you mean you liked him too ?,,,,,,oh dear, outvoted by the cognoscenti.

a minority of one,  is where your gona be with this
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: oldham_villa on January 25, 2017, 09:29:55 PM
Stuart Gray signed at the same time as Andy Gray, I think in November 87. We beat Bradford 4-2 away (I thin Stan Staunton played for them). Always liked him and he was a massive improvement over Mark Lillis
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Ian. on January 25, 2017, 09:32:10 PM
I loved Stuart Gray, I thought he was ace.
my goodness. you are young and were easily impressionable at that tender age, surely. imho opinion one of the most underwhelming midfielders we've had since alex cropley.
Well yes I was about 11 and as I say I thought he was ace at the time.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: BOB MANSFIELD on January 25, 2017, 09:33:39 PM
must admit, so did my no. 2 son at that time. maybe he was really, but nowhere good enough for my tired eyes.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: garyshawsknee on January 25, 2017, 09:49:50 PM
I loved Stuart Gray, I thought he was ace.
my goodness. you are young and were easily impressionable at that tender age, surely. imho opinion one of the most underwhelming midfielders we've had since alex cropley.
Well yes I was about 11 and as I say I thought he was ace at the time.

He was quite good at LB when filling in for Gage, my memory could be distorted though.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: The Left Side on January 25, 2017, 09:51:52 PM
Any news on Mr, Hourihane?
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: BOB MANSFIELD on January 25, 2017, 09:52:57 PM
just never a favourite of mine, I guess. we all have opinions, eh? and some do change over time. perhaps I always thought he played better against us than he ever did for us.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: MorrisNielson on January 25, 2017, 10:30:29 PM
I didn't want to start a new thread for this but, seeing how we're doing business with Barnsley there's bound to be a good few looking in here. I got to thinking how many players we've bought from Barnsley in the past.  I can only think of two: Frank Barson and Danny Blanchflower.

I've tried to find somewhere on the net but am drawing a blank.  Anyone know of any others?

Before today, only 4 signing from Barnsley to play first team football.
3 have already been mentioned (Gray, Barson, Blanchflower) plus George Reeves in 1907 (our first 1000 pound signing!)
Players sold to Barnsley:
Lee Bulter
David Geddis
Albert Lindin (pre war goalie)
Ginger Phoenix (inter war forward)
Pongo
Gareth Williams (left winger signed by SGT)
Norman Young (inter war full back)
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: passport1 on January 25, 2017, 10:45:54 PM
I loved Stuart Gray, I thought he was ace.
my goodness. you are young and were easily impressionable at that tender age, surely. imho opinion one of the most underwhelming midfielders we've had since alex cropley.

I don't know if I'm reading your post incorrectly Bob so apologies if I am but, are you seriously suggesting Alex Cropley, one of the finest midfielders we've ever had was underwhelming?  Again, apologies if I'm reading you wrong.

I rubbed my eyes when I read that I thought perhaps I had had an over tiring day, but no he really thinks that!!
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: olaftab on January 25, 2017, 11:23:15 PM
Barnsley gaffer has said :
"we've seen one midfielder depart this week, but conversely weíve brought in another who is hugely experienced and talented, so Iím delighted that weíve got the deal done."

That's Conor hourihane out Matty James in.
Suitable replacement for them . Good loan option
No the midfielder he is talking about is Sam Morsy who has gone this week.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: robbyfvillain on January 26, 2017, 12:26:16 AM
Barnsley gaffer has said :
"we've seen one midfielder depart this week, but conversely weíve brought in another who is hugely experienced and talented, so Iím delighted that weíve got the deal done."

That's Conor hourihane out Matty James in.
Suitable replacement for them . Good loan option
No the midfielder he is talking about is Sam Morsy who has gone this week.
You may be correct but Morsy left over 3 weeks ago and played for Wigan on the 7th Jan.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: footyskillz on January 26, 2017, 12:27:31 AM
Barnsley gaffer has said :
"we've seen one midfielder depart this week, but conversely weíve brought in another who is hugely experienced and talented, so Iím delighted that weíve got the deal done."

That's Conor hourihane out Matty James in.
Suitable replacement for them . Good loan option
No the midfielder he is talking about is Sam Morsy who has gone this week.
You may be correct but Morsy left over 3 weeks ago and played for Wigan on the 7th Jan.
Exactly !
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: PeterWithesShin on January 26, 2017, 12:29:43 AM
Morsy was at Barnsley on loan and has been recalled by Wigan.  However, Barnsley can still buy him for a set fee that was agreed as part of his loan move.

According to t'internet.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: footyskillz on January 26, 2017, 12:34:18 AM
But to the matter in hand.  Do people feel frustrated /anxious the deal hasn't been confirmed.
Yet it no secret that  he isn't coming.
Jordan Rhodes thread coming soon! 
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: mr underhill on January 26, 2017, 04:54:57 AM
So are you confirming he isn't coming?
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: TheMalandro on January 26, 2017, 06:00:28 AM
I'm very anxious. Brexit, Trump and now this.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Lastfootstamper on January 26, 2017, 06:42:47 AM
How could I have never heard of a player from our past named "Ginger Phoenix"?
Is he still alive?
Can he play with his back to goal?
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Percy McCarthy on January 26, 2017, 07:17:39 AM
I loved Stuart Gray, I thought he was ace.
my goodness. you are young and were easily impressionable at that tender age, surely. imho opinion one of the most underwhelming midfielders we've had since alex cropley.

I don't know if I'm reading your post incorrectly Bob so apologies if I am but, are you seriously suggesting Alex Cropley, one of the finest midfielders we've ever had was underwhelming?  Again, apologies if I'm reading you wrong.

I want to comment but my brain is having too much trouble processing the concept of a Villa fan not rating Alex Cropley.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: saunders_heroes on January 26, 2017, 07:20:19 AM
And Stuart Gray was a bloody good player as well.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: The Edge on January 26, 2017, 07:22:10 AM
Something doesn't seem right here. What's the hold up? It smells to me like Barnsley have other clubs sniffing around and are holding out for more money. If this deals not done today I don't think it will happen.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: brian green on January 26, 2017, 07:24:32 AM
Alex Cropley was an outstanding player and Stuart Gray was a very good one.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Villafirst on January 26, 2017, 07:28:32 AM
Something doesn't seem right here. What's the hold up? It smells to me like Barnsley have other clubs sniffing around and are holding out for more money. If this deals not done today I don't think it will happen.

Players hold all the cards these days. Sounds like Hourihane has made his mind up to join Villa. You can't always force players to play for another club. Dr Xia says 99% done.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: PeterWithesShin on January 26, 2017, 07:37:44 AM
Steve Bruce is playing this beautifully.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: itbrvilla on January 26, 2017, 07:39:52 AM

Apologies for the long link, I'm posting from phone so it's a bit of a pain to do the links properly. Looking up Alex Crooley on Google images I spotted the 2 pictures below. One is an original from his Arsenal days, the other, tis the same pic but with a villa kit drawn on top. Found it mildly entertaining.


http://www.sportsworldcards.com/ekmps/shops/sportsworld/images/aston-villa-alex-cropley-289-topps-1977-red-back-football-soccer-trading-card-32906-p.jpg

https://i0.wp.com/aculturedleftfoot.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/kgrhqyokpue6uf95f-bookn7qlkw60_12.jpg

Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: TheTimVilla on January 26, 2017, 07:49:01 AM
Hourihane will join as soon as he can grow a lovely beard.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: cdbullyweefan on January 26, 2017, 08:01:16 AM
Anyone else you don't rate, BOB? That Paul McGrath was pretty shit, wasn't he?
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: brian green on January 26, 2017, 08:06:49 AM
Peter McParland only shared the Golden Boot.  Rubbish player.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: oldtimernow on January 26, 2017, 08:11:31 AM
Gerry Hitchens couldn't be relied on to score more than once
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: PaulTheVillan on January 26, 2017, 08:16:48 AM
Any news on Mr, Hourihane?
No. Probably going to the Premier League
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: cdbullyweefan on January 26, 2017, 08:18:08 AM
Hopefully, I can't see us getting promoted this season though.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Tony Erdington on January 26, 2017, 08:31:14 AM
I loved Stuart Gray, I thought he was ace.
my goodness. you are young and were easily impressionable at that tender age, surely. imho opinion one of the most underwhelming midfielders we've had since alex cropley.

I don't know if I'm reading your post incorrectly Bob so apologies if I am but, are you seriously suggesting Alex Cropley, one of the finest midfielders we've ever had was underwhelming?  Again, apologies if I'm reading you wrong.

I want to comment but my brain is having too much trouble processing the concept of a Villa fan not rating Alex Cropley.


I was certainly happy with these two, but if you wanted someone launched into row F Eammon Deacy was your man!
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: KevinGage on January 26, 2017, 08:49:52 AM
Mebbe BOB meant Alan Curbishley.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: The Edge on January 26, 2017, 09:08:13 AM
Something doesn't seem right here. What's the hold up? It smells to me like Barnsley have other clubs sniffing around and are holding out for more money. If this deals not done today I don't think it will happen.

Players hold all the cards these days. Sounds like Hourihane has made his mind up to join Villa. You can't always force players to play for another club. Dr Xia says 99% done.
Hope your right bud. I love Tony's tweets but I'm a bit confused as to who he's referring to sometimes. Maths not my strongest point. I'm not very good at england either come to think of it.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: markeeeebeeee2005 on January 26, 2017, 09:08:39 AM
Is your name Bob Mansfield or are you Robert of Mansfield? That's the big question for me.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: themossman on January 26, 2017, 09:11:33 AM
Hourihane will join as soon as he can grow a lovely beard.

That's all our medicals involve now. Doctors measuring beards with calipers.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: olaftab on January 26, 2017, 09:40:00 AM
Alex Cropley was an outstanding player and Stuart Gray was a very good one.
Yes Stuart was a clean tidy efficient midfielder, on the other hand, Alex was pure class.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: auntiesledd on January 26, 2017, 09:50:54 AM
Mebbe BOB meant Alan Curbishley.

Nah, he was more likely to be thinking of Dennis Mortimer. What a waste of space he was! ;)
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: VinnieChase84 on January 26, 2017, 10:00:19 AM
Barnsley boss says he's planning his team for the weekend without CH as he closes in on a move to us
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: brian green on January 26, 2017, 10:02:21 AM
Dennis Mortimer, I had forgotten all about him.  Hell we have had some crap players through our club.  That smiley one from Tobago, forget his name.  Couldn't hit water if he fell out of a boat.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: markeeeebeeee2005 on January 26, 2017, 10:03:28 AM
Barnsley boss says he's planning his team for the weekend without CH as he closes in on a move to us

Good.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: auntiesledd on January 26, 2017, 10:18:17 AM
Dennis Mortimer, I had forgotten all about him.  Hell we have had some crap players through our club.  That smiley one from Tobago, forget his name.  Couldn't hit water if he fell out of a boat.

I wouldn't worry Brian - since most of us wouldn't even remember what games he played in during his time taking the piss at VP. And don't get me started on that charlatan Andy Gray. Yeeesh...
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Breezeblock on January 26, 2017, 10:18:17 AM
Dennis Mortimer, I had forgotten all about him.  Hell we have had some crap players through our club.  That smiley one from Tobago, forget his name.  Couldn't hit water if he fell out of a boat.
We certainly have! Remember that skinny kid with the long black hair in the '70s? Brian somebody.  Absolute rubbish!  Couldn't hit a cows arse with a banjo!
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: eamonn on January 26, 2017, 10:18:57 AM

I was certainly happy with these two, but if you wanted someone launched into row F Eammon Deacy was your man!

*Eamonn
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: The Edge on January 26, 2017, 10:26:54 AM
Whoa just reading this and a tweet came through from Dr Tony. I do hope it's Hooligan
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: murfee on January 26, 2017, 10:27:11 AM
Its done.....Doc tweeted 100% announce shortly
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: VILLA MOLE on January 26, 2017, 10:28:46 AM
Its done.....Doc tweeted 100% announce shortly


looking forward to seeing him play
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Chris Jameson on January 26, 2017, 10:50:12 AM
Is your name Bob Mansfield or are you Robert of Mansfield? That's the big question for me.

Were you on the train from Sheffield to London for the FA Cup semi final and also go to watch Mansfield Town?
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: darren woolley on January 26, 2017, 10:50:21 AM
I hope we've got him signed up.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on January 26, 2017, 10:50:55 AM
The Doctor has just announced that there will be a new signing announcement shortly. 
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: UK Redsox on January 26, 2017, 10:54:11 AM
The Doctor has just announced that there will be a new signing announcement shortly. 

The announcement could be Messi, L. and we'd be moaning about the hold up in signing Hourihane
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: aev on January 26, 2017, 11:00:43 AM
The Doctor has just announced that there will be a new signing announcement shortly. 

The announcement could be Messi, L. and we'd be moaning about the hold up in signing Hourihane

Rightly so. Messi smiles too much - he should learn to take this shit seriously.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: auntiesledd on January 26, 2017, 11:07:56 AM
The Doctor has just announced that there will be a new signing announcement shortly. 

The announcement could be Messi, L. and we'd be moaning about the hold up in signing Hourihane

Rightly so. Messi smiles too much - he should learn to take this shit seriously.

True, but he does have a beard these days (although quite how the BH Measuring Bods will be able to determine the length of his half-arsed effort is anyone's guess).
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: old man villa fan on January 26, 2017, 11:21:24 AM
Dennis Mortimer, I had forgotten all about him.  Hell we have had some crap players through our club.  That smiley one from Tobago, forget his name.  Couldn't hit water if he fell out of a boat.

I wouldn't worry Brian - since most of us wouldn't even remember what games he played in during his time taking the piss at VP. And don't get me started on that charlatan Andy Gray. Yeeesh...

Please be specific, which one?
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: PeterWithe on January 26, 2017, 11:34:02 AM
I dont think I've ever been so happy about signing a player I hadn't heard of until last week and have never seen play, even on the TV.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: auntiesledd on January 26, 2017, 11:37:21 AM
Dennis Mortimer, I had forgotten all about him.  Hell we have had some crap players through our club.  That smiley one from Tobago, forget his name.  Couldn't hit water if he fell out of a boat.

I wouldn't worry Brian - since most of us wouldn't even remember what games he played in during his time taking the piss at VP. And don't get me started on that charlatan Andy Gray. Yeeesh...

Please be specific, which one?

Oh I say! Good knowledge there sir. ;)
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: aev on January 26, 2017, 11:42:54 AM
Dennis Mortimer, I had forgotten all about him.  Hell we have had some crap players through our club.  That smiley one from Tobago, forget his name.  Couldn't hit water if he fell out of a boat.

I wouldn't worry Brian - since most of us wouldn't even remember what games he played in during his time taking the piss at VP. And don't get me started on that charlatan Andy Gray. Yeeesh...

Please be specific, which one?

Oh I say! Good knowledge there sir. ;)

I remember on the ITV Big Match they had Craig Johnstone as the studio guest. They were going through some of the goals and Andy Gray scored for Spurzzz (think he was there then) and Johnstone said something along the lines "Crikey, he was white the last time I saw him".
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: jwarry on January 26, 2017, 11:46:48 AM
Yay in the bag. Happy about this one
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: TheMalandro on January 26, 2017, 11:47:36 AM
Welcome!
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Joshua Fineman on January 26, 2017, 11:48:09 AM
Confirmed!
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: MalcolmP on January 26, 2017, 11:48:24 AM
It's official - welcome Connor to the greatest club in the world
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: SashasGrandad on January 26, 2017, 11:48:38 AM
https://twitter.com/AVFCOfficial

Now official
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Joshua Fineman on January 26, 2017, 11:48:55 AM
Twitter link here
https://twitter.com/AVFCOfficial/status/824584059930152960
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Havencheese on January 26, 2017, 11:49:45 AM
Exciting times ahead.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: West Derby Villan on January 26, 2017, 11:51:01 AM
Sorted, welcome Conor
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: andyh on January 26, 2017, 11:51:24 AM
Fan-bloody-tastic !!!!!

I am really pleased with all of the transfers, but especially this one.

Plays offs ? A bridge too far ? Unfortunately, I think it is.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: auntiesledd on January 26, 2017, 11:52:27 AM
Bosh! Welcome Conor - and here's to you being a big hit at The Villa. :)
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: peter w on January 26, 2017, 11:52:34 AM
I'm a bit underwhelmed now.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: AGRIPPA on January 26, 2017, 11:53:22 AM
Now official!!!!
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Villafirst on January 26, 2017, 11:54:30 AM
It's official - welcome Connor to the greatest club in the world

It's Conor!
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Axl Rose on January 26, 2017, 11:55:04 AM
Really chuffed about this signing.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: brian green on January 26, 2017, 11:55:19 AM
The transfer windows have become the best parts of our season.  Wish the games were as good.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Duncan Shaw on January 26, 2017, 11:55:32 AM
It's official - welcome Connor to the greatest club in the world

It's Conor!
Oh no.........
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Axl Rose on January 26, 2017, 11:55:46 AM
The transfer windows have become the best parts of our season.  Wish the games were as good.

Haha. I literally just said this to my wife.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Villan For Life on January 26, 2017, 11:56:20 AM
Welcome to the Villa Conor. We have a tradition of signing top players from the Emerald Isle (with a couple of exceptions). Please continue that tradition.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: simon ward 50 on January 26, 2017, 11:56:47 AM
Welcome Conor to the most beautifully named club in the world!
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Tuscans on January 26, 2017, 11:57:28 AM
Bruce and probably Round making some good decisions on players here. Inexpensive midfielders we have been crying out for, a good window.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: amfy on January 26, 2017, 11:58:00 AM
Thank God for that!
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: BOB MANSFIELD on January 26, 2017, 11:58:57 AM
From Tyke to Villain, welcome Conor The Barbarian.
Should fit in well with Thor and Angela, no doubt.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: oswald funkletrumpet on January 26, 2017, 12:05:37 PM
Go stuff, we actually have a midfield
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Nev on January 26, 2017, 12:07:53 PM
I bet Westwood still gets a place.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: VinnieChase84 on January 26, 2017, 12:08:49 PM
Delighted by this move. Could well prove to be our most important player
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: UK Redsox on January 26, 2017, 12:09:27 PM
Stretch time

(https://d16b4kgyytl7c7.cloudfront.net/~/media/CHMainWeb.ashx?h=720&la=en&mw=1280&w=1280&vs=1&d=20170126T114150Z&hash=D93D042C25AFCAF670F6D4817E5A5C47B78EFD5D)


Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Toronto Villa on January 26, 2017, 12:14:15 PM
That's a very good stretch indeed by Conor. Welcome sir. Expect to get your name butchered in here for the next few years.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: BOB MANSFIELD on January 26, 2017, 12:14:37 PM
Wonder what number will be on the back ? He was 8 at Barnsley.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Jimbo on January 26, 2017, 12:15:22 PM
Good news. I hope we don't turn him into a lazy fat pile of shit.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: BOB MANSFIELD on January 26, 2017, 12:15:33 PM
Just eagle-eyed 26 on the shirt he was wearing.............
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Villafirst on January 26, 2017, 12:16:03 PM
Welcome Conor! Let's have some free kick specials!
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Lsvilla on January 26, 2017, 12:19:53 PM
Just eagle-eyed 26 on the shirt he was wearing.............
Hope not isn't that Kodjia ?
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Percy McCarthy on January 26, 2017, 12:24:36 PM
Not far off breaking even on fees aren't we?
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: markeeeebeeee2005 on January 26, 2017, 12:24:40 PM
Aaaaaaaand stretch
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: The Edge on January 26, 2017, 12:28:52 PM
Fan-bloody-tastic !!!!!

I am really pleased with all of the transfers, but especially this one.

Plays offs ? A bridge too far ? Unfortunately, I think it is.
Great signing but play offs will be a big ask. Don't matter anyway I'll settle for a glorious title winning campaign next season
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Flamingo Lane on January 26, 2017, 12:33:57 PM
just never a favourite of mine, I guess. we all have opinions, eh? and some do change over time. perhaps I always thought he played better against us than he ever did for us.

You're not getting Alex Cropley mixed up with Tommy Craig, perhaps?
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: footyskillz on January 26, 2017, 12:34:25 PM
This is fantastic and happy to have him come!  The best midfielder in championship.  Now at the best club. 
9 points is 3 wins keep thinking kts not much but I know  it's more than that in a way. However players coming here realise the ambition as well as attraction and wage and can be pleased  we have a top quality player here.
Up the  villa. 
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: The Laughing Policeman on January 26, 2017, 12:35:49 PM
His beard looks a bit scratchy, not up to the standard we expect at Aston Villa. Hopefully it'll grow along with his reputation.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Ad@m on January 26, 2017, 12:46:01 PM
We only signed him today and this thread is already on page 40!

Please let this not be yet another false dawn!!!!!
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: BC Villain on January 26, 2017, 12:48:51 PM
Welcome Conor.  Very encouraged by the business done so far.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Phil from the upper holte on January 26, 2017, 12:49:04 PM
Thank god, Welcome Conor
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: not3bad on January 26, 2017, 12:50:30 PM
Welcome Conor! Looking forward to Saturday!
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: TheMalandro on January 26, 2017, 12:52:36 PM
Welcome Conor! Looking forward to Saturday!

Cinema? Bowling?
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: PaulTheVillan on January 26, 2017, 12:54:10 PM
Welcome Conor! Looking forward to Saturday!

Cinema? Bowling?
Dogging
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: lordmcgrath5 on January 26, 2017, 12:55:20 PM
Excellent stuff. Welcome to the first Bandon (County Cork) man I can think of to play for the Villa. We haven't had a midfield for years, wonder what having one will be like.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: UK Redsox on January 26, 2017, 12:58:58 PM
Excellent stuff. Welcome to the first Bandon (County Cork) man I can think of to play for the Villa. We haven't had a midfield for years, wonder what having one will be like.

James Collins will probably re-join on loan and the midfield will be completely bypassed
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: footyskillz on January 26, 2017, 01:00:26 PM
Welcome Conor! Looking forward to Saturday!

Cinema? Bowling?
Dogging

Spa diamond massage.  Aston. 
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: footyskillz on January 26, 2017, 01:00:58 PM
Excellent stuff. Welcome to the first Bandon (County Cork) man I can think of to play for the Villa. We haven't had a midfield for years, wonder what having one will be like.

James Collins will probably re-join on loan and the midfield will be completely bupassed
Shudder
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: darren woolley on January 26, 2017, 01:04:10 PM
Welcome to Aston Villa Conor.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Dave P on January 26, 2017, 01:10:28 PM
I am very happy with our business this window.  Best January since 2007 for me (Young, Carew, Maloney)
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Dante Lavelli on January 26, 2017, 01:13:32 PM
I cannot get excited about players I had never heard of.  There used to be the mystery and hope of the unknown, however Tonev and the rest make me way more pessimistic.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: PaulWinch again on January 26, 2017, 01:17:28 PM
Good stuff, welcome Conor do well please.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Breezeblock on January 26, 2017, 01:27:23 PM
Welcome Conor. Again, I know it's Youtube but he looks shit-hot! And he seems to like scoring against the filth! I'm so excited by our signings this week a little bit of sex wee has leaked out! :)
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Toronto Villa on January 26, 2017, 01:36:17 PM
He certainly likes getting into the box and has a superb left peg.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Percy McCarthy on January 26, 2017, 01:39:01 PM
Welcome Conor. Again, I know it's Youtube but he looks shit-hot! And he seems to like scoring against the filth! I'm so excited by our signings this week a little bit of sex wee has leaked out! :)


Great stuff. Absolutely loves scoring, his team-mates have a job catching him in the celebrations. At times he is the furthest man forward, what strange magic is this?
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: GordonCowansisthegreatest on January 26, 2017, 01:42:59 PM
Got a shot like Der Hammer!  Goals from nothing, just what we need.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: cdward on January 26, 2017, 01:44:50 PM
Lansbury - 4.5 year deal
Bree - 4.5 year deal
Hourihane - 3.5 year deal
Bjarnason - 3.5 year deal

Simple question, how come they all agree different contract lengths, anyone know a simple answer.
Are they all offered the same deal? Is it a fixed amount of money but spread over different amounts of time.
Just curious.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Hookeysmith on January 26, 2017, 01:51:51 PM
He certainly likes getting into the box and has a superb left peg.

Don't worry we will soon coach that out of him ;)
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: PeterWithe on January 26, 2017, 02:06:34 PM
Watching that clip he reminds me of Alan Thompson.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: lovejoy on January 26, 2017, 02:11:29 PM
Long deals are double dged swords. If the player is successful they are locked in for longer and less risk they leave in a free (and longer to spread the upfront costs over). If they are rubbish we are lumbered with them. Recently we have had more in the latter category than the former.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: eamonn on January 26, 2017, 02:20:22 PM
Watching that clip he reminds me of Alan Thompson.

Fookin hope not. What a let-down.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: peter w on January 26, 2017, 02:23:18 PM
Watching that clip he reminds me of Alan Thompson.

I hope not.

Anyway, if he gets to take a penalty I reckon I know where he'll put it.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: PeterWithesShin on January 26, 2017, 02:24:26 PM
Welcome Conor. Another one that's going to be a Clarke nightmare.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: brian green on January 26, 2017, 02:25:02 PM
I think PW meant Garry Thompson.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Pete on January 26, 2017, 02:27:01 PM
He looks like a good un. It makes a change to have a midfielder who we can hope to contribute some goals. I think the last time we had that were the days of Young, Milner and Barry.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: peter w on January 26, 2017, 02:29:35 PM
I agree with me.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: KRS on January 26, 2017, 02:29:39 PM
His left peg is like a magic wand...hopefully everything he touches turns into goals!

Welcome to VP Conor.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: eamonn on January 26, 2017, 02:30:43 PM
"Significant fee and sell-on" according to the Barnsley site.  They've done well in what must have been shit situations for them seeing us come in and pillage their talent.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: footyskillz on January 26, 2017, 02:39:30 PM
"Significant fee and sell-on" according to the Barnsley site.  They've done well in what must have been shit situations for them seeing us come in and pillage their talent.

agreed and having seen us lose out on countinho and dele Ali in previous Windows  really proud that can attract top talent potential and sign progressive players.
Hooray for that!
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Brend'Watkins on January 26, 2017, 02:40:06 PM
Watching that clip he reminds me of Alan Thompson.

I hope not.

Anyway, if he gets to take a penalty I reckon I know where he'll put it.

I reckon he could even tell the keeper where he's going to put it and he'd still score. From the clip he looks very accurate with a dead ball.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: footyskillz on January 26, 2017, 02:41:53 PM
Watching that clip he reminds me of Alan Thompson.

I hope not.

Anyway, if he gets to take a penalty I reckon I know where he'll put it.

I reckon he could even tell the keeper where he's going to put it and he'd still score. From the clip he looks very accurate with a dead ball.

Charlie Adam  crossed with Delph !
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: PaulTheVillan on January 26, 2017, 02:42:09 PM
Glad we're signing established championship players, like we did with McCormack & Elphick.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Old Kodjia on January 26, 2017, 02:49:32 PM
Glad we're signing established championship players, like we did with McCormack & Elphick.

Surely you aren't disappointed with Hourihane?

We also signed established players like Kodjia & Adoma. 

With so many coming in, a couple are bound not to work out.  Elphick is actually a great squad player and great character.  I've no issues with him whatsoever.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: olaftab on January 26, 2017, 02:52:29 PM
Welcome Conor.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: footyskillz on January 26, 2017, 02:55:41 PM
Glad we're signing established championship players, like we did with McCormack & Elphick.

And how did you feel about signing Gollini and Tshibola .
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: Clampy on January 26, 2017, 02:58:27 PM
Any news on Mr, Hourihane?
No. Probably going to the Premier League

Bearing in mind you thought he was going to the Premier League, you should be happy we've snapped him up.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane
Post by: footyskillz on January 26, 2017, 03:00:11 PM
Absolute cracking player!  Steal at 1 million !
Really good middle man plays well with aggression and offensive play.
Pros gets goals . Great footballing age . Creative.  Captain and versatile in middle.
Negative - aggression leads to yellow cards !

Really hope he signs and we 'll enjoy his play.
Think Fabian Delph/ Charlie Adam hybrid

So we are signing an overweight snake ??

i've only just read your comment. 
No coming at it different angles. 
If you're familiar with the positive attributes of Adam and Delph midfield and ball play then it was this I was referencing. 
They are both left footed. 
Drive.
Adam has a dead ball specialist
Delphi tenacious and energetic
Both have cards in them
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Risso on January 26, 2017, 03:03:25 PM
Glad we're signing established championship players, like we did with McCormack & Elphick.

Surely you aren't disappointed with Hourihane?

We also signed established players like Kodjia & Adoma. 

With so many coming in, a couple are bound not to work out.  Elphick is actually a great squad player and great character.  I've no issues with him whatsoever.

I think Hourihane will do really well. Elphick is dreadful though, an extremely poor defender.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: PeterWithesShin on January 26, 2017, 03:05:44 PM
Elphick has been very disappointing, however like many on here I was pleased when we signed him.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: avfcpg on January 26, 2017, 03:11:09 PM
Be nice to have a free kick outside the box that you actually think has a chance of going in..
On paper, that midfield is one of the best in this league....over to you Mr Bruce.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Old Kodjia on January 26, 2017, 03:12:53 PM
Glad we're signing established championship players, like we did with McCormack & Elphick.

Surely you aren't disappointed with Hourihane?

We also signed established players like Kodjia & Adoma. 

With so many coming in, a couple are bound not to work out.  Elphick is actually a great squad player and great character.  I've no issues with him whatsoever.

I think Hourihane will do really well. Elphick is dreadful though, an extremely poor defender.

I think he's a good squad player.  Not many Championship squads have someone like Elphick as back up.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: berneboy on January 26, 2017, 03:14:01 PM
I was delighted when we signed him too. He hasn't looked good but his character must help us.
 Also moving and settling in can be very difficult. Even in my own work (teaching) finding effectiveness and place to contribute takes time.

We need to remember this with all the movement in the squad, especially with young James Bree leaving home for the first time.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: UK Redsox on January 26, 2017, 03:16:48 PM
Elphick has been very disappointing, however like many on here I was pleased when we signed him.

I think that of the summer signings that have disappointed or been a bit meh, Mad Tom is the one that surprises me the most
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Clampy on January 26, 2017, 03:18:50 PM
A mate of mine reckons he had a decent game against Wolves, although I can't say he stood out too much for me. Hopefully he'll settle down and turn out to be a valuable player for us.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: PaulTheVillan on January 26, 2017, 03:57:16 PM
Glad we're signing established championship players, like we did with McCormack & Elphick.

And how did you feel about signing Gollini and Tshibola .

Didn't have an opinion, hadn't heard of either. Not seen enough still to comment if they're good enough or not.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Mossie Hennebry on January 26, 2017, 04:02:31 PM
Imagine signing for your new club and Paul McGrath tweets you to welcome you aboard! For any Irish footballer, this would be immense. I am so excited by this signing - for me, it is brilliant to have an Irishman back on the park for Villa!
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on January 26, 2017, 05:50:36 PM
God I love our club at times....

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Conor Hourihane Retweeted Paul McGrath
If I have half the career you had here il be ok! Thank you for the message 👊🏻@Paulmcgrath5Conor Hourihane added,
Paul McGrath @Paulmcgrath5
. @ConorHourihane Welcome Aboard Conor , great news you've joined Aston Villa, it's a brilliant place to play football, Enjoy #Respect. UTV.
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Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: UK Redsox on January 26, 2017, 05:52:37 PM
Imagine signing for your new club and Paul McGrath tweets you to welcome you aboard! For any Irish footballer, this would be immense. I am so excited by this signing - for me, it is brilliant to have an Irishman back on the park for Villa!

He's no Enda Stevens
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: QuintonVilla on January 26, 2017, 05:55:36 PM
Dr Tony went to Barnsley
In his white Transit van
Brought us back a midfielder
Conor Hourihane!
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: cheltenhamlion on January 26, 2017, 05:57:57 PM
I told you silly sausages not to worry. Welcome aboard Hourihane.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: manic-road on January 26, 2017, 05:59:45 PM
Happy we have finally signed Conor, haven't seen much of him but It wouldn't be hard being better than any of the midfielders that started the season.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: UK Redsox on January 26, 2017, 06:06:02 PM
Dr Tony went to Barnsley
In his white Transit van
Brought us back a midfielder
Conor Hourihane!

Dr Tony went to Barnsley
In a MGB
Brought us back two new stars
Hourihane and Bree
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on January 26, 2017, 06:08:00 PM
Welcome to the first Bandon (County Cork) man I can think of to play for the Villa.

Without even kicking a ball he's better than our last County Cork man.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Mossie Hennebry on January 26, 2017, 06:12:58 PM
Imagine signing for your new club and Paul McGrath tweets you to welcome you aboard! For any Irish footballer, this would be immense. I am so excited by this signing - for me, it is brilliant to have an Irishman back on the park for Villa!

He's no Enda Stevens

Who? Big Paul?
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on January 26, 2017, 06:21:31 PM
It's the Enda the Road for Westwood.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: john e on January 26, 2017, 06:40:07 PM
i have two sons called Albert and Connor,
 so this would be the first time we have the possibility of both names in the team playing at the same time in our history

a random fact of no consequence whatsoever

about the name Connor/Conor a Irish friend told me a long time ago that the name spelt with two N's was the Protestant way of spelling it and the one N was the Catholic way.
apparently in Ireland there is no end of ways to decipher what side your on without having to say a word,
 maybe one of our Irish lads will know more
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Steve kirk on January 26, 2017, 06:47:31 PM
Very pleased we've got Conor, midfield on paper now very good for our division.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: aev on January 26, 2017, 06:49:26 PM
i have two sons called Albert and Connor,
 so this would be the first time we have the possibility of both names in the team playing at the same time in our history

a random fact of no consequence whatsoever

about the name Connor/Conor a Irish friend told me a long time ago that the name spelt with two N's was the Protestant way of spelling it and the one N was the Catholic way.
apparently in Ireland there is no end of ways to decipher what side your on without having to say a word,
 maybe one of our Irish lads will know more

I heard a similar thing with Brendan/Brendon.

The former is left foot, the latter right foot (I think).
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Old Kodjia on January 26, 2017, 07:23:07 PM
I've been following a thread on a Sheffield Wednesday forum for the past few days.  It is really amusing.  Apparently, we're a basket case of a club, the only reason they didn't sign CH is because Barnsley wouldn't deal with them and Dr Xia is "bonkers" (it must be because he wasn't prepared to subsidise Bennett's wages to play for them)  I get the distinct impression that some of them haven't forgotten BFR.

Look out for "The Owlsman", he's had me howling with some of his comments.  He'd do the noses proud.  He's got his heart set on Jordan Rhodes now.  Part of me hopes that we don't sign him, it could push the poor kid over the edge.  ;D

http://www.owlstalk.co.uk/forums/topic/249573-conor-hourihane/
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: paul_e on January 26, 2017, 07:27:32 PM
Really happy with this one because, if nothing else, he is a very good free kick taker.  With Grealish in the team having someone who works the keeper more often than not with free kicks is a massive bonus.  From what I've seen of them I suspect BB, Lansbury and Hourihane will be the midfield in the home games more often than not and we'll build around closing teams down quickly so we don't need the out and out defensive ball winner.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: dave shelley on January 26, 2017, 07:33:30 PM
i have two sons called Albert and Connor,
 so this would be the first time we have the possibility of both names in the team playing at the same time in our history

a random fact of no consequence whatsoever

about the name Connor/Conor a Irish friend told me a long time ago that the name spelt with two N's was the Protestant way of spelling it and the one N was the Catholic way.
apparently in Ireland there is no end of ways to decipher what side your on without having to say a word,
 maybe one of our Irish lads will know more

If you find yourself in Belfast and you hear the names Paddy or Sean you are probably around the Catholic Falls Road area.  If you here Sammy or Alex you are in the Protestant Shankhill Road.  That's a sweeping generalisation but you get the point.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Ads on January 26, 2017, 07:45:18 PM
I've just read that Wednesday site. His bottom lip is proper out over us the bumpkin.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Goldie.7 on January 26, 2017, 07:45:40 PM
His first interview (https://vimeo.com/201150285) in full, if you haven't already watched it or don't subscribe.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: four fornicholl on January 26, 2017, 08:03:56 PM
His first interview (https://vimeo.com/201150285) in full, if you haven't already watched it or don't subscribe.
I like the cut of this fellas jib. The very best of luck Conor.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: The Edge on January 26, 2017, 08:06:48 PM
I just popped me nose into that Sheffield Wed site. Jeez another lot that don't like us for no apparent reason. One wag said "why would Jordan Rhodes prefer to join Villa over us?" (SW)Fucking hell where shall I start? Another said we only got Hourihane because Barnsley refused to deal with Sheff Wed.. errrrrr wtf is he on? I hope  their whippets shit in their flat caps. Oh and there was a villa obsessed Ollbeyun twat trying to drum up hatred for us! I can't wait for us to get back where we belong and put all these Villa haters back in their box.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on January 26, 2017, 08:07:58 PM
His first interview (https://vimeo.com/201150285) in full, if you haven't already watched it or don't subscribe.

Cheers for that, Goldie.

You've got to love his attitude. Very impressed.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: claret+blue ed on January 26, 2017, 08:10:39 PM
Looks like very good addition to our club, talks very well with class as well

Welcome to the villa Conor
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: saunders_heroes on January 26, 2017, 08:20:24 PM
i have two sons called Albert and Connor,
 so this would be the first time we have the possibility of both names in the team playing at the same time in our history

a random fact of no consequence whatsoever

about the name Connor/Conor a Irish friend told me a long time ago that the name spelt with two N's was the Protestant way of spelling it and the one N was the Catholic way.
apparently in Ireland there is no end of ways to decipher what side your on without having to say a word,
 maybe one of our Irish lads will know more

Conor is an Irish Christian name and Connor is an Irish surname. I think the latter is more to do with the modern phenomena of using surnames as first names.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Risso on January 26, 2017, 08:25:36 PM
His first interview (https://vimeo.com/201150285) in full, if you haven't already watched it or don't subscribe.

Cheers for that, Goldie.

You've got to love his attitude. Very impressed.

Could anybody explain what he's talking about.  Goals?  Assists?  Getting in the box?
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: OCD on January 26, 2017, 08:26:35 PM
I've not liked Sheffield Wednesday ever since they threw the title race in '93. Namely Nigel Worthington doing a piss poor job on the post.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Toronto Villa on January 26, 2017, 08:28:22 PM
His first interview (https://vimeo.com/201150285) in full, if you haven't already watched it or don't subscribe.

Cheers for that, Goldie.

You've got to love his attitude. Very impressed.

Could anybody explain what he's talking about.  Goals?  Assists?  Getting in the box?

No I've read about it in books with dust on them. The play is in the other teams half if you can believe that, and they have these things called attacking players who move forward. Not side to side or backwards. They then kick the ball towards the opponents net and it goes in every so often. It's quite a bizarre concept.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: brian green on January 26, 2017, 08:31:33 PM
If you are in Harringay and you hear somebody calling Yusuf or Abdul you are on the Turkish side of Green Lanes.  If you hear somebody shout Georgio or Stefan you are on the Greek side.  If you hear somebody shout "Oi Cant!" you are in the middle of the road.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: VILLA MOLE on January 26, 2017, 08:35:30 PM
If you are in Harringay and you hear somebody calling Yusuf or Abdul you are on the Turkish side of Green Lanes.  If you hear somebody shout Georgio or Stefan you are on the Greek side.  If you hear somebody shout "Oi Cant!" you are in the middle of the road.

made me laugh thankyou
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: peter w on January 26, 2017, 08:46:54 PM
If you are in Harringay and you hear somebody calling Yusuf or Abdul you are on the Turkish side of Green Lanes.  If you hear somebody shout Georgio or Stefan you are on the Greek side.  If you hear somebody shout "Oi Cant!" you are in the middle of the road.

Stewards order...

It'd be Mustafa or Emre on the Turkish side...
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Mossie Hennebry on January 26, 2017, 08:47:53 PM
i have two sons called Albert and Connor,
 so this would be the first time we have the possibility of both names in the team playing at the same time in our history

a random fact of no consequence whatsoever

about the name Connor/Conor a Irish friend told me a long time ago that the name spelt with two N's was the Protestant way of spelling it and the one N was the Catholic way.
apparently in Ireland there is no end of ways to decipher what side your on without having to say a word,
 maybe one of our Irish lads will know more

Conor is an Irish Christian name and Connor is an Irish surname. I think the latter is more to do with the modern phenomena of using surnames as first names.

Is the correct answer.

O Connor is the Irish surname. It is said that the Connors dropped the O when they converted to Protestantism for food during the famine.  I don't know if there is any truth to this, but you will hear it termed as 'They took the soup'. As an aside, Bandon would have been predominantly Protestant when I was growing up. I'm not sure what the score is now.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: the-farmer on January 26, 2017, 08:53:31 PM
i have two sons called Albert and Connor,
 so this would be the first time we have the possibility of both names in the team playing at the same time in our history

a random fact of no consequence whatsoever

about the name Connor/Conor a Irish friend told me a long time ago that the name spelt with two N's was the Protestant way of spelling it and the one N was the Catholic way.
apparently in Ireland there is no end of ways to decipher what side your on without having to say a word,
 maybe one of our Irish lads will know more

Conor is an Irish Christian name and Connor is an Irish surname. I think the latter is more to do with the modern phenomena of using surnames as first names.

Is the correct answer.

O Connor is the Irish surname. It is said that the Connors dropped the O when they converted to Protestantism for food during the famine.  I don't know if there is any truth to this, but you will hear it termed as 'They took the soup'. As an aside, Bandon would have been predominantly Protestant when I was growing up. I'm not sure what the score is now.

I heard Billy Connolly say something along these lines a few years ago
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: brian green on January 26, 2017, 08:57:37 PM
I bow to your first hand knowledge Mr W.  I don't go to Harringay much since they closed the dog track.  Walt Disney's family came from Harringay.  Ths notta lotta peepul know thet.  Maurice Micklewhite circa 1963.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: saunders_heroes on January 26, 2017, 10:02:07 PM
i have two sons called Albert and Connor,
 so this would be the first time we have the possibility of both names in the team playing at the same time in our history

a random fact of no consequence whatsoever

about the name Connor/Conor a Irish friend told me a long time ago that the name spelt with two N's was the Protestant way of spelling it and the one N was the Catholic way.
apparently in Ireland there is no end of ways to decipher what side your on without having to say a word,
 maybe one of our Irish lads will know more

Conor is an Irish Christian name and Connor is an Irish surname. I think the latter is more to do with the modern phenomena of using surnames as first names.

Is the correct answer.

O Connor is the Irish surname. It is said that the Connors dropped the O when they converted to Protestantism for food during the famine.  I don't know if there is any truth to this, but you will hear it termed as 'They took the soup'. As an aside, Bandon would have been predominantly Protestant when I was growing up. I'm not sure what the score is now.

Over the centuries families just drop the "O" from their names for various reasons. My own surname originally had an "O" before it but it hasn't anymore for whatever reason. Sometimes they're just dropped out of even laziness. I have a mate called Reilly who (about 20 years ago) applied for an Irish passport. He had to get his dad's birth certificate and when he got it it said his dad was born O'Reilly. When he spoke to his dad he said, "oh yeah I dropped the O when I came to England so I could get a job."
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: footyskillz on January 26, 2017, 10:40:39 PM
i have two sons called Albert and Connor,
 so this would be the first time we have the possibility of both names in the team playing at the same time in our history

a random fact of no consequence whatsoever

about the name Connor/Conor a Irish friend told me a long time ago that the name spelt with two N's was the Protestant way of spelling it and the one N was the Catholic way.
apparently in Ireland there is no end of ways to decipher what side your on without having to say a word,
 maybe one of our Irish lads will know more

Conor is an Irish Christian name and Connor is an Irish surname. I think the latter is more to do with the modern phenomena of using surnames as first names.

Is the correct answer.

O Connor is the Irish surname. It is said that the Connors dropped the O when they converted to Protestantism for food during the famine.  I don't know if there is any truth to this, but you will hear it termed as 'They took the soup'. As an aside, Bandon would have been predominantly Protestant when I was growing up. I'm not sure what the score is now.

Over the centuries families just drop the "O" from their names for various reasons. My own surname originally had an "O" before it but it hasn't anymore for whatever reason. Sometimes they're just dropped out of even laziness. I have a mate called Reilly who (about 20 years ago) applied for an Irish passport. He had to get his dad's birth certificate and when he got it it said his dad was born O'Reilly. When he spoke to his dad he said, "oh yeah I dropped the O when I came to England so I could get a job."

Who do you think you Are? Live on h and v
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: BC Villain on January 26, 2017, 10:55:48 PM
Great to hear that sort of attitude.  One thing we've lacked badly in recent years.  Players who are desperate to be here as opposed to a nice big pay day

https://twitter.com/thevillazone/status/824643530954051585
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: eamonn on January 26, 2017, 11:11:39 PM
A lovely thing to hear. Good man Conor and good luck. I've a feeling he'll be great for us.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: OCD on January 27, 2017, 12:00:45 AM
Stretching a purple shirt there. Unbelievable that kit manufacturers can't get the right colour these days.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: KevinGage on January 27, 2017, 12:24:53 AM
It's a bit shit, isn't it (the kit, not the signing).
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Sexual Ealing on January 27, 2017, 12:27:48 AM
It's a bit shit, isn't it (the kit, not the signing).

It is. Burnley have a good shade of claret. Not sure why we can't nail it.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: KevinGage on January 27, 2017, 12:37:46 AM
Even West Ham kits have looked reasonable in recent years.

Traditionally they had the tat and we had something approximating a proper kit.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Ger Regan on January 27, 2017, 01:15:10 AM
Pop quiz, who can pronounce the irish translation of Conor? It's spelled Conchubhar, by the way.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Comrade Blitz on January 27, 2017, 01:30:23 AM
Pop quiz, who can pronounce the irish translation of Conor? It's spelled Conchubhar, by the way.

Is it Derek?
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: robbo1874 on January 27, 2017, 01:51:48 AM
Out of all the signings which I knew absolutely nothing about during this transfer window, this is the one that I was most excited about for some reason.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Havencheese on January 27, 2017, 02:15:37 AM
Pop quiz, who can pronounce the irish translation of Conor? It's spelled Conchubhar, by the way.

Is it Derek?

Taylah?
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Hillbilly on January 27, 2017, 04:19:16 AM
Pop quiz, who can pronounce the irish translation of Conor? It's spelled Conchubhar, by the way.
Dogfucker isn't it?
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: peter w on January 27, 2017, 04:56:18 AM
Co-nar
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Neil Hawkes on January 27, 2017, 05:09:42 AM
Cofeck, nafeck, rfeck?
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Toronto Villa on January 27, 2017, 05:14:56 AM
It's a bit shit, isn't it (the kit, not the signing).

Yep. The colour is off, I don't really like collars and buttons either. Macron make good kits, so hope there is a better one next season.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: berneboy on January 27, 2017, 05:24:01 AM
Pop quiz, who can pronounce the irish translation of Conor? It's spelled Conchubhar, by the way.

Is it Derek?

I'm reading this at twenty past five in the morning when I should be asleep and I laughed.

Thank you.

And goodnight.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: PeterWithe on January 27, 2017, 04:02:14 PM
It's a bit shit, isn't it (the kit, not the signing).

Yep. The colour is off, I don't really like collars and buttons either. Macron make good kits, so hope there is a better one next season.

I must have missed this, when did we sign the deal to go back?
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: brontebilly on January 27, 2017, 05:32:53 PM
from the highlights reel, he will give us a shooting threat from outside the box that we havent had since.....cant remember actually

Hitz maybe?
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Tayls_7 on January 27, 2017, 05:34:20 PM
from the highlights reel, he will give us a shooting threat from outside the box that we havent had since.....cant remember actually

Hitz maybe?

Er, two words; West, Wood.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: GordonCowansisthegreatest on January 27, 2017, 05:47:23 PM
from the highlights reel, he will give us a shooting threat from outside the box that we havent had since.....cant remember actually

Hitz maybe?

Er, two words; West, Wood.
Shooting "Threat" to the goal not the corner flag.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Ger Regan on January 27, 2017, 06:28:12 PM
Pop quiz, who can pronounce the irish translation of Conor? It's spelled Conchubhar, by the way.
Dogfucker isn't it?
It's pronounced Cruh-hoor. Work that one out.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Mossie Hennebry on January 27, 2017, 07:29:16 PM
Pop quiz, who can pronounce the irish translation of Conor? It's spelled Conchubhar, by the way.
Dogfucker isn't it?
It's pronounced Cruh-hoor. Work that one out.

Depends on where you are from. It's cu-hoor where I'm from.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: johnc on January 27, 2017, 09:40:29 PM
Pop quiz, who can pronounce the irish translation of Conor? It's spelled Conchubhar, by the way.
Dogfucker isn't it?
It's pronounced Cruh-hoor. Work that one out.

Depends on where you are from. It's cu-hoor where I'm from.
Good old Munster Irish
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: PaulWinch again on February 04, 2017, 07:19:39 PM
Is he carrying a knock? In both games he's been very laboured.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: PaulWinch again on February 04, 2017, 08:20:38 PM
I never saw him play at Barnsley, so I'm hoping and assuming his first two games for us don't accurately represent his ability, because he's been miles off the pace.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Clark W Griswold on February 05, 2017, 12:44:39 AM
I never saw him play at Barnsley, so I'm hoping and assuming his first two games for us don't accurately represent his ability, because he's been miles off the pace.

He was crap against Brentford and crap first half today but I thought he was very good second half, seemed to be everywhere and his passing, particularly the whipped balls into the box were a real threat.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: CT Villan on February 05, 2017, 04:20:41 AM
I suspect that we will see him play better when he is not playing a holding midfield role with Lansbury. I find it hard to understand why the player with the leading number of assists in the Championship is playing so deep.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: ROBBO on February 05, 2017, 05:56:14 AM
I find it hard to explain why they are all playing so deep.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Chris Smith on February 05, 2017, 08:27:18 AM
I suspect that we will see him play better when he is not playing a holding midfield role with Lansbury. I find it hard to understand why the player with the leading number of assists in the Championship is playing so deep.

It looked to me as though the idea was to sit deep, deny them the space between the lines that we gave Brentford and hit them on the break. It worked ok I thought but the absence of Jedinak obviously restricted Lansbury as he had to be the one who remained disciplined.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Ads on February 05, 2017, 09:09:26 AM
I think Jedinak would give both Hourihane and Lansbury scope to attack with a bit of freedom.

I liked having two up top and I like the idea of having them two in midfield. That system away from home works well for me.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Mister E on February 05, 2017, 09:27:16 AM
Despite the cries of many that the Jedi is not very good, he is the missing link in this new MF set-up. He is the back 3/4 shield that will give Ange and Houri the licence to do what they do best.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Clark W Griswold on February 05, 2017, 09:33:50 AM
Despite the cries of many that the Jedi is not very good, he is the missing link in this new MF set-up. He is the back 3/4 shield that will give Ange and Houri the licence to do what they do best.

He certainly looks like the missing link, but yes, he should definately play instead of Grealish allowing Hourahane and Lansbury to do the attacking stuff.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Villafirst on February 05, 2017, 09:41:28 AM
I really hope Jedi is fit for the Ipswich game. He could play the holding role to let Lansbury and Hourihane express themselves. Really need 6 points from the next 2 home games. The one crumb of comfort in a fire season is remaining unbeaten at Villa Park.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: ajmant on February 10, 2017, 09:22:12 AM
Which to me begs the question why have we only got one decent holding midfielder. Hey ho.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Mister E on February 10, 2017, 09:41:03 AM
Which to me begs the question why have we only got one decent holding midfielder. Hey ho.
Is that GG's natural position, perhaps? As understudy to the Jedi (we could rename him Luke)
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: mattjpa on February 10, 2017, 09:52:40 AM
Gardner potentially has the attributes to shadow Jedinak. I think when we are up to speed and settled thats how he should be utilised
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: adrenachrome on February 10, 2017, 10:41:16 AM
I find it hard to explain why they are all playing so deep.

How deep is our line, how deep is our line
I really mean to learn
'Cause we're living in a world of fools
Breaking us down when they all should let us be
Sitting deep complacently
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: LeeB on February 10, 2017, 08:50:00 PM
I find it hard to explain why they are all playing so deep.

How deep is our line, how deep is our line
I really mean to learn
'Cause we're living in a world of fools
Breaking us down when they all should let us be
Sitting deep complacently

If we can't push up
We can't press the opposition
If we can't push up, whooo-oh
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: adrenachrome on February 10, 2017, 09:17:27 PM
It's no time to time to whinge
It's no time to time to whine
We're Aston Villa
We play a deep line



Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Ad@m on February 15, 2017, 12:52:09 PM
I'm confused by Hourihane. 

I thought we were buying this incredible box-to-box midfielder with an eye for goal.  Instead we seem to have bought an anonymous midfielder hider who can't manage a completed pass.

I'm by no means writing him off yet but what's happened to the player who led Barnsley to a win up at Elland Road just before we signed him?
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Sexual Ealing on February 15, 2017, 12:53:49 PM
I'm confused by Hourihane. 

I thought we were buying this incredible box-to-box midfielder with an eye for goal.  Instead we seem to have bought an anonymous midfielder hider who can't manage a completed pass.

I'm by no means writing him off yet but what's happened to the player who led Barnsley to a win up at Elland Road just before we signed him?

We've signed better players than him who've turned to total Blues.
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Post by: Nunkin1965 on February 15, 2017, 01:02:27 PM
He's just another professional footballer whose entered the mysterious paradox that is the revolving door at Villa Park.

Show up and shed yourselves of any footballing brain. Pick up said brain on departure and continue with your career.

Nobody can explain why players with undoubted talent at this level don't do it in one of our shirts.
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Post by: PaulWinch again on February 15, 2017, 01:08:46 PM
I'm hoping he's just having a slow start and it's not the 'best player in the Championship' curse.
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Post by: olaftab on February 15, 2017, 01:09:30 PM
Very disappointed with him over the last two home games and last night he disappeared. I particularly didn't like the way he kept a constant look over to his left watching Barnsley fans and players celebrate their 3rd as he walked back towards the centre circle. To me that shows lack of determination and resolve and that's not good in any player  specially a midfielder.
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Post by: Hookeysmith on February 15, 2017, 01:13:24 PM
If we insist on him taking corners then FFS try something else other than a floaty one to the back stick for Baker to miss

I thought he was actually more noticeable last night than Saturday but still nowhere what I was expecting after the hype to get him
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Post by: kippaxvilla2 on February 15, 2017, 01:15:56 PM
If we insist on him taking corners then FFS try something else other than a floaty one to the back stick for Baker to miss

I thought he was actually more noticeable last night than Saturday but still nowhere what I was expecting after the hype to get him

At least we saved £3m in getting someone else to do floaty corners instead of Westy.
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Post by: Nunkin1965 on February 15, 2017, 01:21:12 PM
Fucking Floaty Corners. All the same. All the time. Depressing to watch.

Its not just him. Scott Hogan looks like he's never, ever seen a football before.

Dr Who scripts are less baffling than deciphering what happens to our players on match day.
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Post by: mr underhill on February 15, 2017, 01:36:05 PM
a bit harsh, I thought Hogan looked industrious and Hurricane wasn't as bad as some are saying. TBH I was surprised he played
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Post by: achilles on February 15, 2017, 01:45:33 PM
They obviously practice nothing at BMH as the corners are exactly the same, no variation, no nothing!
The more I watch them the more I am convinced that they only ever meet up on match days!
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Post by: AV82EC on February 15, 2017, 03:59:53 PM
I actually thought he was better last night, not brilliant by any stretch but there was more effort and visibility. Few more settling games and he'll improve further.
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Post by: frank black on February 15, 2017, 05:12:33 PM
I noted with interest his ability to point a lot.
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Post by: sirlordbaltimore on February 15, 2017, 05:21:47 PM


Folks willing to write him off after four games ...  ;D
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Post by: achilles on February 15, 2017, 05:24:39 PM


Folks willing to write him off after four games ...  ;D

Who's that then?
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Post by: Ad@m on February 15, 2017, 06:33:56 PM
If we insist on him taking corners then FFS try something else other than a floaty one to the back stick for Baker to miss

Don't get me started on corners!

Not Hourihane-related in the slightest but when was the last time we carried an actual goal threat from a corner?  Winning a corner these days is essentially the same as the ball running out for a goal kick.
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Post by: SoccerHQ on February 15, 2017, 07:24:47 PM
His set piece delivery was very good for Barnsley so looks like we've yet again trained out any quality at Bodymoor in a few weeks.
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Post by: adrenachrome on February 15, 2017, 07:28:00 PM
If we insist on him taking corners then FFS try something else other than a floaty one to the back stick for Baker to miss

Don't get me started on corners!

Not Hourihane-related in the slightest but when was the last time we carried an actual goal threat from a corner?  Winning a corner these days is essentially the same as the ball running out for a goal kick.

Do you remember when there were complaints that we were an anti-football outfit because most of our goals were scored from set pieces under the auspices of the Derry Mon? 

Those were the days, my friends.

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Post by: UK Redsox on February 15, 2017, 07:38:35 PM
I noted with interest his ability to point a lot.

We thought that we'd never see a pointer of the calibre of NRC again and then along came Westy.

Now there's Hourihane making a challenge for the title
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Post by: russon on February 15, 2017, 07:40:56 PM
If we insist on him taking corners then FFS try something else other than a floaty one to the back stick for Baker to miss

Don't get me started on corners!

Not Hourihane-related in the slightest but when was the last time we carried an actual goal threat from a corner?  Winning a corner these days is essentially the same as the ball running out for a goal kick.

Do you remember when there were complaints that we were an anti-football outfit because most of our goals were scored from set pieces under the auspices of the Derry Mon? 

Those were the days, my friends.
Remember them well. Routine victories over Blues, regular top 6 finishes, a team of 100%ers, wasn't enough for some though...
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Post by: Ads on February 15, 2017, 07:46:23 PM
He was good in the first half. He and Lansbury would be ideally suited having Jedinak covering.
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Post by: BOB MANSFIELD on February 15, 2017, 08:07:49 PM
We could really do with some of those 100% ers now Russon. Oh for a Barry or a Milner or a Mellberg.
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Post by: ktvillan on February 15, 2017, 08:23:43 PM
If we insist on him taking corners then FFS try something else other than a floaty one to the back stick for Baker to miss

Don't get me started on corners!

Not Hourihane-related in the slightest but when was the last time we carried an actual goal threat from a corner?  Winning a corner these days is essentially the same as the ball running out for a goal kick.

Do you remember when there were complaints that we were an anti-football outfit because most of our goals were scored from set pieces under the auspices of the Derry Mon? 

Those were the days, my friends.
Remember them well. Routine victories over Blues, regular top 6 finishes, a team of 100%ers, wasn't enough for some though...
That would be the ambitious amongst us I suppose...
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Post by: LeeB on February 15, 2017, 08:30:05 PM
If we insist on him taking corners then FFS try something else other than a floaty one to the back stick for Baker to miss

Don't get me started on corners!

Not Hourihane-related in the slightest but when was the last time we carried an actual goal threat from a corner?  Winning a corner these days is essentially the same as the ball running out for a goal kick.

Do you remember when there were complaints that we were an anti-football outfit because most of our goals were scored from set pieces under the auspices of the Derry Mon? 

Those were the days, my friends.
Remember them well. Routine victories over Blues, regular top 6 finishes, a team of 100%ers, wasn't enough for some though...
That would be the ambitious amongst us I suppose...


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Post by: Goldie.7 on February 15, 2017, 08:41:26 PM
His tackle on Bradshaw for their second was late and very reckless. If it didn't go in almost certain penalty number two. What the hell was Baker doing.. fucking clowns at the circus.
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Post by: Goldie.7 on February 15, 2017, 08:49:18 PM

What the hell is going on here? No wonder why he was rubbish again, a bit too pally pally me thinks.
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Post by: BOB MANSFIELD on February 15, 2017, 08:51:31 PM
Just like McCormack loving all his Fulham mates on the pitch ....mind you they soon told their manager not to re-sign him, apparently.
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Post by: aj2k77 on February 16, 2017, 12:10:14 AM
When the going gets tough so far he's vanished.
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Post by: BOB MANSFIELD on February 16, 2017, 08:21:57 PM
I thought, honestly, we'd signed at least 3 hardmen, in him, Lansbury and Thor. Oh dear.
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Post by: adrenachrome on February 17, 2017, 05:23:46 PM
Udders Field Examiner

Insufficient gelling time is the crux.

Quote
Aston Villa new boy Conor Hourihane claims Villa's players must work harder to turn their fortunes around this season.

The Midlands side have taken just one point since the turn of the year, despite bringing in eight players in January.

The former Barnsley captain believes the new additions will help the Villans in the long run, but admits it will take time for the side to gel.

He told Sky Sports: ďWhen you look around the dressing room, you canít not be confident.

ďThere are really good players here, especially for this level. Everyone just needs to work that little bit harder on the training field to turn the luck around.

ďWe havenít had it in recent weeks but if you keep going, luck starts coming to your side. When that starts happening, the only way is up.

ďThe manager has been fantastic with myself and the lads since I came in. We have some great players in the changing room, itís just taking a bit of time to gel.Ē
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Post by: BOB MANSFIELD on February 17, 2017, 09:28:48 PM
Obviously players don't come, these days, with " Gel By " dates on their tins !
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Post by: adrenachrome on February 17, 2017, 09:42:32 PM
Paraphrasing the revolutionary socialist leader Leon Trotsky when talking to a prison guard about the geographical location of the felicitous paradise known as heaven : "Regarding the timing of the moment of gelation in a process of permanent transition or flux, there is no precise information".

Rest assured that our time will come and in the long run we are all dead.

Pessimism of the intellect; optimism of the will.

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Post by: BOB MANSFIELD on February 17, 2017, 09:51:00 PM
Does Donald Duck Trump, know you have been colluding with this Russian person?
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Post by: adrenachrome on February 17, 2017, 09:57:49 PM
The Don knows nothing from nothing, Bob, and in particular that Lev Davidovich Bronstein's birthplace is now in Ukraine, which was preceded by the definite article back then.
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Post by: BOB MANSFIELD on February 17, 2017, 10:01:30 PM
Yup, but most Americans ( I guess ) wouldn't know if Ukraine was in Russia or Venezuela.....or care much.
Whereas, you clearly have some inside knowledge that you have not shared truthfully with the VP of US ( previously prefixed with the definite article also.)
How did we get on to that on a Conor H thread anyway ? Soz.
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Post by: adrenachrome on February 17, 2017, 10:04:32 PM
Yup, but most Americans ( I guess ) wouldn't know if Ukraine was in Russia or Venezuela.....or care much.
Whereas, you clearly have some inside knowledge that you have not shared truthfully with the VP of US ( previously prefixed with the definite article also.)
How did we get on to that on a Conor H thread anyway ? Soz.

Flux. Transition. Dialectics.

I blame Hegel. He started it.
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Post by: BOB MANSFIELD on February 17, 2017, 10:15:42 PM
Not being a student of Mid-European Political History 1879-1940, it never struck me to make any comparisons between Trotsky and Conor Hourihane before now. And I have never before, knowingly, corresponded with a Trot.
That aside, what has Georgi's theories on idealism got to do with 2-5-2 or 4-4-3 ?
I think Conor should be let loose to plunder that part of Northern Europe just NE of Durham, England starting on Monday ( but don't tell anyone in advance, so they don't get the drop on him first )
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Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 28, 2017, 10:55:16 PM
Conor Hourihane‏Verified account
@ConorHourihane

Back to back wins just what we needed!! Special feeling getting my first goal in front of the Holte end!! UTV
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Post by: Deano's Mullet on February 28, 2017, 11:02:48 PM
Nice to see some enthusiasm from him, I think he'll score a fair few from midfield.
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Post by: adrenachrome on February 28, 2017, 11:16:25 PM
Confidence is almost everything at this precarious stage.

Now let's see how they can progress and build for next season.
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Post by: Jockey Randall on February 28, 2017, 11:18:33 PM
Caught the end of his interview on talksport earlier. Sounded chuffed with his goal in front of the Holte. First of many hopefully!
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Post by: West Derby Villan on February 28, 2017, 11:28:35 PM
Thought he got better and better as the game progressed
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Post by: tomd2103 on February 28, 2017, 11:40:35 PM
Thought he got better and better as the game progressed

Yep and I thought he was MoM for us.  Looked far better in a more advanced role and I hope him, Lansbury and Jedinak can form a strong midfield.
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Post by: PeterWithe on March 01, 2017, 12:54:28 AM
Better, he got closer to Kodja which was what we needed.

Could have had a hat-trick with more composure.
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Post by: cdbullyweefan on March 01, 2017, 01:22:42 AM
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@ConorHourihane

Back to back wins just what we needed!! Special feeling getting my first goal in front of the Holte end!! UTV

Good lad.

He looked at home in a Villa shirt today, delighted he has a goal to show for his troubles.
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Post by: Ad@m on March 01, 2017, 06:05:15 AM
He came across really well in his interview on Talksport.

I've got high hopes for him and last night was the first time I saw glimpses he's heading in the right direction.
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Post by: Ads on March 01, 2017, 07:09:21 AM
He played a lot closer to Kodjia second half and it gave us the dynamism we needed.
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Post by: Brend'Watkins on March 01, 2017, 10:26:42 AM
It was refreshing to see a midfielder running at goal from a through pass last night.  Can't remember seeing that too many times this or last season so hopefully there is more to come in the coming games.  I like the look of this lad.
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Post by: Ad@m on March 01, 2017, 12:15:12 PM
It was refreshing to see a midfielder running at goal from a through pass last night. 

Even more incredible, it was Nathan Baker who slotted the ball through!
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Post by: Toronto Villa on March 01, 2017, 02:51:59 PM
The best recent spell I can recall was when Sherwood had our then midfielders like Cleverley or Delph really attacking the box. Not only was Benteke already lethal, but we also could add support from midfield players coming through. Throw in a growing Jack Grealish and things look rosy for 5 minutes culminating in that great SF vs Liverpool. For whatever reason he never persisted with it. We now need to get back to that and it was good to see Hourihane in an advanced position, but Lansbury is very capable too. He needs to start contributing like he was at Forest.
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Post by: Phil from the upper holte on March 01, 2017, 04:02:41 PM
Conor Hourihane‏Verified account
@ConorHourihane

Back to back wins just what we needed!! Special feeling getting my first goal in front of the Holte end!! UTV

Good lad.

He looked at home in a Villa shirt today, delighted he has a goal to show for his troubles.

What troubles?
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Post by: olaftab on April 02, 2017, 12:13:09 AM
So far disappointed with him and he had another bad game today. Not sure if we have him in the right position but a bit underwhelming at the moment.
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Post by: kippaxvilla2 on April 02, 2017, 12:23:42 AM
A bloke (who by the way keeps saying the annoying phrase 'Nigel you'll know this as well as me/better than me') rang WM tonight to say we miss Westwood and that Hourihane is no better than us and by the way we aren't good enough.
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Post by: adrenachrome on April 02, 2017, 12:36:50 AM
A bloke (who by the way keeps saying the annoying phrase 'Nigel you'll know this as well as me/better than me') rang WM tonight to say we miss Westwood and that Hourihane is no better than us and by the way we aren't good enough.

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Post by: tomd2103 on April 02, 2017, 02:13:30 AM
So far disappointed with him and he had another bad game today. Not sure if we have him in the right position but a bit underwhelming at the moment.

He started out on the left today and looked uncomfortable in that position.  I thought he looked a bit jaded and sluggish, and just wonder if he was suffering a bit from his exertions in midweek.
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Post by: Dante Lavelli on April 02, 2017, 08:04:34 AM
It's a villa curse, we sign players because they're doing well at smaller clubs, but then try and play them in different positions or ask them to adapt their game, consequently we end up with square pegs in round holes. 
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Post by: AV82EC on April 02, 2017, 08:25:04 AM
He wasn't great today but his work rate was fine. Probably a big emotional week for him, first cap, first time doing that international to club game 3 days later thing, despite us thinking it's a piece of piss, it probably isn't.
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Post by: aj2k77 on April 02, 2017, 12:57:54 PM
I see it differently. Lansbury, Hourihane and the others have come in, none have looked spectacular, none have really stood out, everyone will question the money spent, again, but at the end of it all we are on a run of 6 wins from 7, 1 goal conceded 6 clean sheets and making no bloopers, fighting hard and not really giving the opposition much of a sniff at goal. However they appear individually, as a team they are better than what has come before them and this is what we need to get out of this shit hole. Some of it is Bruce, some of it is them gelling but a good part of it too will be that they are better than the players they've replaced.
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Post by: peter w on April 02, 2017, 04:23:43 PM
Indeed. For 5 or so months we seemingly had no central midfield. Now we do. With Elphick out and Kodjia back (and johnstone looking better) we have a strong spine.
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Post by: Villafirst on April 02, 2017, 04:45:00 PM
Players need time to adjust to a new club. These international breaks don't help.
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Post by: Edvard Remberg on April 02, 2017, 05:07:18 PM
A bloke (who by the way keeps saying the annoying phrase 'Nigel you'll know this as well as me/better than me') rang WM tonight to say we miss Westwood and that Hourihane is no better than us and by the way we aren't good enough.



Just checked - Burnley hasn't won any game where Westwood has been involved. Proof that all is his fault... :D
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Post by: tomd2103 on April 02, 2017, 05:13:41 PM
A bloke (who by the way keeps saying the annoying phrase 'Nigel you'll know this as well as me/better than me') rang WM tonight to say we miss Westwood and that Hourihane is no better than us and by the way we aren't good enough.

I heard that and that's where someone with a bit of nous would have pulled him up and said that they are different types of midfielder and therefore a comparison is a bit pointless.  Not Franksy though.
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Post by: LeeB on April 02, 2017, 05:15:55 PM
A bloke (who by the way keeps saying the annoying phrase 'Nigel you'll know this as well as me/better than me') rang WM tonight to say we miss Westwood and that Hourihane is no better than us and by the way we aren't good enough.

I heard that and that's where someone with a bit of nous would have pulled him up and said that they are different types of midfielder and therefore a comparison is a bit pointless.  Not Franksy though.

They are completely different players, Hourihane appears to have a 'forward' gear.
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Post by: tomd2103 on April 02, 2017, 05:16:56 PM
I see it differently. Lansbury, Hourihane and the others have come in, none have looked spectacular, none have really stood out, everyone will question the money spent, again, but at the end of it all we are on a run of 6 wins from 7, 1 goal conceded 6 clean sheets and making no bloopers, fighting hard and not really giving the opposition much of a sniff at goal. However they appear individually, as a team they are better than what has come before them and this is what we need to get out of this shit hole. Some of it is Bruce, some of it is them gelling but a good part of it too will be that they are better than the players they've replaced.

I want to see Bruce give Lansbury and Hourihane the chance to get forward a bit more.  Hourihane looked far better against Bristol City in a more advanced role.
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Post by: olaftab on April 02, 2017, 05:35:18 PM
A bloke (who by the way keeps saying the annoying phrase 'Nigel you'll know this as well as me/better than me') rang WM tonight to say we miss Westwood and that Hourihane is no better than us and by the way we aren't good enough.

I heard that and that's where someone with a bit of nous would have pulled him up and said that they are different types of midfielder and therefore a comparison is a bit pointless.  Not Franksy though.
Yes heard and the the radio chap let it go on without telling him that no way they are comparable but why stop Villa fans ranting!
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Post by: Ad@m on April 02, 2017, 11:00:16 PM
He played down the middle for Barnsley and was their best player.  We signed him and played him on the left and he looked completely out of sorts.  We put him in the middle and he looked great and then on Saturday put him back on the left and the game passed him by.

It's really not that hard Bruce - play the lad in the position he's good at or it's a waste of a shirt!
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Post by: tomd2103 on April 02, 2017, 11:13:20 PM
A bloke (who by the way keeps saying the annoying phrase 'Nigel you'll know this as well as me/better than me') rang WM tonight to say we miss Westwood and that Hourihane is no better than us and by the way we aren't good enough.

I heard that and that's where someone with a bit of nous would have pulled him up and said that they are different types of midfielder and therefore a comparison is a bit pointless.  Not Franksy though.
Yes heard and the the radio chap let it go on without telling him that no way they are comparable but why stop Villa fans ranting!

Yep.  Franks should have pointed that out to the caller, told him that it is in fact Jedinak who is a like for like comparison with Westwood and then asked him who he would prefer out of those two. 
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Post by: BC Villain on April 10, 2017, 11:17:48 PM
A bloke (who by the way keeps saying the annoying phrase 'Nigel you'll know this as well as me/better than me') rang WM tonight to say we miss Westwood and that Hourihane is no better than us and by the way we aren't good enough.

I heard that and that's where someone with a bit of nous would have pulled him up and said that they are different types of midfielder and therefore a comparison is a bit pointless.  Not Franksy though.
Yes heard and the the radio chap let it go on without telling him that no way they are comparable but why stop Villa fans ranting!

Yep.  Franks should have pointed that out to the caller, told him that it is in fact Jedinak who is a like for like comparison with Westwood and then asked him who he would prefer out of those two.

It's Franks.  Why let facts get in the way of a chance to let someone have a sly dig?
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Post by: olaftab on April 15, 2017, 06:36:32 PM
At the moment he is masquerading  as a midfielder in our team. Totally ineffective in creating or stopping opposition.
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Post by: mr underhill on April 15, 2017, 06:51:39 PM
one cross of note today and a shot I think, but other than that totally anonymous
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Post by: Leicester_Villian on April 15, 2017, 07:41:59 PM
Possibly did more than Lansbury
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Post by: Chris87 on April 15, 2017, 07:49:16 PM
Lansbury and Hourihane are a bit like Gerrard and Lampard were for England at the moment. Absolutely brilliant playing in different teams but stick them in the same MF and it all goes to pot!
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Post by: Brend'Watkins on April 15, 2017, 09:25:38 PM
Possibly did more than Lansbury

Really great left foot. Needs to start imposing himself more. That short corner to Atrocious Adoma, why?
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Post by: Ad@m on April 16, 2017, 10:12:35 PM
Seems like I'm on my own but I thought he looked good yesterday, playing in his actual position as an attacking midfielder, right up to the point we switched to 442.  From then on he disappeared but so did every other Villa player.
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Post by: PaulWinch again on April 26, 2017, 01:31:03 PM
I'm hoping a summer with a, fingers crossed, improved squad will hopefully enable him to fit into the side. He's been underwhelming so far, but I'm hopeful he can produce a lot more next season.
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Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on April 26, 2017, 02:45:41 PM
We can sign the best players in the world but as Adam rightly points out above, unless we play them in their best position don't expect them to deliver their best.
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Post by: Risso on April 26, 2017, 03:20:25 PM
We can sign the best players in the world but as Adam rightly points out above, unless we play them in their best position don't expect them to deliver their best.

That's my biggest criticism of Bruce this season, it's just a very vanilla, old school, transfer-window-by numbers approach.  That lad from Brentford has scored a few goals, we'll have him, and the Irish lad from Barnsley has set a few up, let's have him as well.  Very little thought seems to have gone in to it. 

Hogan and Kodjia are two extremely different types of player, but there doesn't seem to be a plan for is they play together, or if one replaces the other.  Same with Hourihane, he should be absolutely setting the place alight, but the lack of a settled formation and style of play means that we're not seeing the best of many players.
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Post by: Drummond on April 26, 2017, 03:31:18 PM
I agree, but we've signed so many that trying out formations and positions until we get the best out of them seems like a good idea. It's not as if they're bedding in to a settled team/squad.

The other thing I'd say is that the purchases aren't just down to Bruce, they clearly have a strategy that has Round and Wyness involved too.

My personal feeling is that going straight back up would have set us up to fail. Another season and the building of a squad and team ethic surely will help?
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Post by: peter w on April 26, 2017, 03:42:36 PM
Whisper it quietly but it may take 2 more seasons. Next season to get the side better in terms of tempo and personnel, and then the 3rd season to rip the league up.
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Post by: Hookeysmith on April 26, 2017, 03:58:01 PM
Whisper it quietly but it may take 2 more seasons. Next season to get the side better in terms of tempo and personnel, and then the 3rd season to rip the league up.

Sorry buddy but we clearly do not have that long

We have expensive players on big (for championship) pay contracts and the money drops off next year

We would lose  / have to sell our better players to support those on fat contracts not able to be sold or move on (think we have seen this somewhere before)

Next season or shit creek in my mind
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Post by: Risso on April 26, 2017, 04:46:59 PM
I agree, but we've signed so many that trying out formations and positions until we get the best out of them seems like a good idea. It's not as if they're bedding in to a settled team/squad.

The other thing I'd say is that the purchases aren't just down to Bruce, they clearly have a strategy that has Round and Wyness involved too.

My personal feeling is that going straight back up would have set us up to fail. Another season and the building of a squad and team ethic surely will help?

Your might have a point on the last bit, but what happens if we lose say, Kodjia and Chester in the summer?  We're then scouting around for a new set of players, and all of the old excuses will come out again.
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Post by: Chris Smith on April 26, 2017, 05:21:50 PM
We can sign the best players in the world but as Adam rightly points out above, unless we play them in their best position don't expect them to deliver their best.

That's my biggest criticism of Bruce this season, it's just a very vanilla, old school, transfer-window-by numbers approach.  That lad from Brentford has scored a few goals, we'll have him, and the Irish lad from Barnsley has set a few up, let's have him as well.  Very little thought seems to have gone in to it. 

Hogan and Kodjia are two extremely different types of player, but there doesn't seem to be a plan for is they play together, or if one replaces the other.  Same with Hourihane, he should be absolutely setting the place alight, but the lack of a settled formation and style of play means that we're not seeing the best of many players.

As I understand it Bruce has the final say on transfers but it is but the scouting etc comes from elsewhere so any blame, or praise, is a collective rather than an individual issue. My view is that the work in January was done, to a large extent, with next season in mind. How they perform as a team, rather than as individuals, following a pre season together will be when they and Bruce can be fairly assessed.
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Post by: tomd2103 on April 26, 2017, 06:13:10 PM
The best I have seen him play so far was when he came on in a more attacking role against Bristol City.  I would certainly like to see him and Lansbury given more opportunity to get forward.
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Post by: Risso on April 26, 2017, 06:20:43 PM
We can sign the best players in the world but as Adam rightly points out above, unless we play them in their best position don't expect them to deliver their best.

That's my biggest criticism of Bruce this season, it's just a very vanilla, old school, transfer-window-by numbers approach.  That lad from Brentford has scored a few goals, we'll have him, and the Irish lad from Barnsley has set a few up, let's have him as well.  Very little thought seems to have gone in to it. 

Hogan and Kodjia are two extremely different types of player, but there doesn't seem to be a plan for is they play together, or if one replaces the other.  Same with Hourihane, he should be absolutely setting the place alight, but the lack of a settled formation and style of play means that we're not seeing the best of many players.

As I understand it Bruce has the final say on transfers but it is but the scouting etc comes from elsewhere so any blame, or praise, is a collective rather than an individual issue. My view is that the work in January was done, to a large extent, with next season in mind. How they perform as a team, rather than as individuals, following a pre season together will be when they and Bruce can be fairly assessed.

I really dislike the "needs a pre-season" argument.  Why are we showing very little in the way of improvement at the latter end of the season despite the 30 odd games Bruce has had in charge.  Why is three weeks of training in July and a friendly against Walsall better preparation than training all season and playing actual league games?  Some players will leave, and some new ones will arrive, so it's not even that we'll start next season with the same squad we finish this one with.
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Post by: Chris Smith on April 26, 2017, 07:04:10 PM
We can sign the best players in the world but as Adam rightly points out above, unless we play them in their best position don't expect them to deliver their best.

That's my biggest criticism of Bruce this season, it's just a very vanilla, old school, transfer-window-by numbers approach.  That lad from Brentford has scored a few goals, we'll have him, and the Irish lad from Barnsley has set a few up, let's have him as well.  Very little thought seems to have gone in to it. 

Hogan and Kodjia are two extremely different types of player, but there doesn't seem to be a plan for is they play together, or if one replaces the other.  Same with Hourihane, he should be absolutely setting the place alight, but the lack of a settled formation and style of play means that we're not seeing the best of many players.

As I understand it Bruce has the final say on transfers but it is but the scouting etc comes from elsewhere so any blame, or praise, is a collective rather than an individual issue. My view is that the work in January was done, to a large extent, with next season in mind. How they perform as a team, rather than as individuals, following a pre season together will be when they and Bruce can be fairly assessed.

I really dislike the "needs a pre-season" argument.  Why are we showing very little in the way of improvement at the latter end of the season despite the 30 odd games Bruce has had in chjarge.  Why is three weeks of training in July and a friendly against Walsall better preparation than training all season and playing actual league games?  Some players will leave, and some new ones will arrive, so it's not even that we'll start next season with the same squad we finish this one with.

And yet clubs that are more settled going into the season appear to have a better chance than those that go through the type of churn we have over the last 12 months. It also seems to be the accepted wisdom amongst the professionals involved in the game. Of course we will change one or two but the core of the squad is now established, it is inconceivable that we will see anything approaching that level of change again.
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Post by: paul_e on April 26, 2017, 07:22:27 PM
We can sign the best players in the world but as Adam rightly points out above, unless we play them in their best position don't expect them to deliver their best.

That's my biggest criticism of Bruce this season, it's just a very vanilla, old school, transfer-window-by numbers approach.  That lad from Brentford has scored a few goals, we'll have him, and the Irish lad from Barnsley has set a few up, let's have him as well.  Very little thought seems to have gone in to it. 

Hogan and Kodjia are two extremely different types of player, but there doesn't seem to be a plan for is they play together, or if one replaces the other.  Same with Hourihane, he should be absolutely setting the place alight, but the lack of a settled formation and style of play means that we're not seeing the best of many players.

As I understand it Bruce has the final say on transfers but it is but the scouting etc comes from elsewhere so any blame, or praise, is a collective rather than an individual issue. My view is that the work in January was done, to a large extent, with next season in mind. How they perform as a team, rather than as individuals, following a pre season together will be when they and Bruce can be fairly assessed.

I really dislike the "needs a pre-season" argument.  Why are we showing very little in the way of improvement at the latter end of the season despite the 30 odd games Bruce has had in chjarge.  Why is three weeks of training in July and a friendly against Walsall better preparation than training all season and playing actual league games?  Some players will leave, and some new ones will arrive, so it's not even that we'll start next season with the same squad we finish this one with.

And yet clubs that are more settled going into the season appear to have a better chance than those that go through the type of churn we have over the last 12 months. It also seems to be the accepted wisdom amongst the professionals involved in the game. Of course we will change one or two but the core of the squad is now established, it is inconceivable that we will see anything approaching that level of change again.

I'm with Risso on this.  A pre-season does help in a number of ways but we're not going to suddenly change the way we play and look like a different team.  Bruce has had more time than anyone since Lambert and yet we're still making the same basic mistakes multiple times every game and every game he comes out afterwards and says we need to improve.  Hourihane and Lansbury don't look anything special because we're playing them out of position and Hogan looks lost because he's not got anyone within 30 yards of him for 90% of the match.  These aren't the sort of things that should have to wait until the summer, especially when we've had 5-6 'dead' games at the end of the season to use to try things out.


Aside from that Bruce doesn't have a great record of settling on a squad and making 1-2 adjustments when he has a bit of money to spend, 6-7 signings in the summer is his average if you look into it and everything he's said about the summer hints towards a lot more ins and outs so I don't think the 'settled squad' side of it holds up to much scrutiny.
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Post by: KRS on April 26, 2017, 07:31:35 PM
Grasping at straws here a little but may be the pressure of getting results during the season in order to avoid a relegation fight has forced his hand some what in terms of the tried and tested tactics that Bruce has been using, and as a result, he has had to play certain players out of position in order to do that. In addition, if there are a few pieces to the jigsaw missing that doesn't allow Bruce to set up the team utilising the players in their correct positions and with a more attacking style of play then he's even more inclined to stick to the tried and tested formula.

Personally I agree with (what appears to be) the majority that Bruce is an old school manager and what we've been seeing is the Bruce way, and that is unlikely to change...however, until Wyness and Xia roll the dice it is up to Bruce to prove us wrong...or prove us right.
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Post by: paul richard on April 26, 2017, 09:09:01 PM
I agree with Risso re the pre-season argument.  I don't see how a break, a few warm ups and a friendly with Walsall is going to turn the team we've recently been watching in to promotion contenders.  From around the Derby game, when we turned a corner and the threat of being dragged too far down the league receded, it has been obvious to all that the last dozen or matches of this season were a chance to get the team in to shape for next season.  That meant not just sorting out the personnel but developing and improving the style and getting the mentality of the team right.  It appears that the back 6 including Jedi at the base of midfield looks like a settled combo, and Kodjia is clearly a success up front, but I have to say that with just 2 games remaining I see precious little progress sorting out the midfield and the wide positions.  Lansbury has been - for me - a disappointment, lacking the drive, pace and energy I thought he would bring, and Hourihane has failed to pull up trees to the extent that he has been displaced by the dismally mediocre Bacuna.  Notwithstanding a few assists Adomah looks bang average, lightweight and slow, and Jack, apart from one or two shining moments, looks subdued.  And Amavi and Hogan seem to be regressing rather than progressing.  There's no cohesion, ball retention is abysmal, and we end up on the back foot for long periods in matches whether we're playing Wigan or Fulham.  It's Bruce's job to sort this lot out and get a tune out of disparate parts, but as games go by, and team sheets display the name 'Bacuna' or 'Gardner', the fear grows in me that this may be as good as it gets with current personnel. 
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Post by: LeeB on April 26, 2017, 09:15:09 PM
Grasping at straws here a little but may be the pressure of getting results during the season in order to avoid a relegation fight has forced his hand some what in terms of the tried and tested tactics that Bruce has been using, and as a result, he has had to play certain players out of position in order to do that. In addition, if there are a few pieces to the jigsaw missing that doesn't allow Bruce to set up the team utilising the players in their correct positions and with a more attacking style of play then he's even more inclined to stick to the tried and tested formula.

Personally I agree with (what appears to be) the majority that Bruce is an old school manager and what we've been seeing is the Bruce way, and that is unlikely to change...however, until Wyness and Xia roll the dice it is up to Bruce to prove us wrong...or prove us right.

I don't think you're clutching at straws at all, I think you're bang on the money.

I also think that that pragmatism is exactly what we get from employing him over a more adventurous coach, and would argue it was exactly what was required to stop us potentially free falling straight out of this division this season.
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Post by: paul richard on April 26, 2017, 09:17:56 PM
Grasping at straws here a little but may be the pressure of getting results during the season in order to avoid a relegation fight has forced his hand some what in terms of the tried and tested tactics that Bruce has been using, and as a result, he has had to play certain players out of position in order to do that. In addition, if there are a few pieces to the jigsaw missing that doesn't allow Bruce to set up the team utilising the players in their correct positions and with a more attacking style of play then he's even more inclined to stick to the tried and tested formula.

Personally I agree with (what appears to be) the majority that Bruce is an old school manager and what we've been seeing is the Bruce way, and that is unlikely to change...however, until Wyness and Xia roll the dice it is up to Bruce to prove us wrong...or prove us right.

I don't think you're clutching at straws at all, I think you're bang on the money.

I also think that that pragmatism is exactly what we get from employing him over a more adventurous coach, and would argue it was exactly what was required to stop us potentially free falling straight out of this division this season.

Agreed, but at some stage pragmatism has to morph into something much more positive.  We won't get out of this league playing as we are right now.  Is Bruce the man to change things for the better?
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Post by: LeeB on April 26, 2017, 09:30:56 PM
Grasping at straws here a little but may be the pressure of getting results during the season in order to avoid a relegation fight has forced his hand some what in terms of the tried and tested tactics that Bruce has been using, and as a result, he has had to play certain players out of position in order to do that. In addition, if there are a few pieces to the jigsaw missing that doesn't allow Bruce to set up the team utilising the players in their correct positions and with a more attacking style of play then he's even more inclined to stick to the tried and tested formula.

Personally I agree with (what appears to be) the majority that Bruce is an old school manager and what we've been seeing is the Bruce way, and that is unlikely to change...however, until Wyness and Xia roll the dice it is up to Bruce to prove us wrong...or prove us right.

I don't think you're clutching at straws at all, I think you're bang on the money.

I also think that that pragmatism is exactly what we get from employing him over a more adventurous coach, and would argue it was exactly what was required to stop us potentially free falling straight out of this division this season.

Agreed, but at some stage pragmatism has to morph into something much more positive.  We won't get out of this league playing as we are right now.  Is Bruce the man to change things for the better?

That's what no none us know, but then I'd argue that was the case for any realistic replacement too, many of which would come with much more risk.

We can look at his record and see that he's done it several times before with different clubs, which is a about as good an indicator of capability he could have, we can also argue that his teams haven't really been noted for their flair, but also he's not been considered part of the Pulis/Allardyce axis of football brutalists.

As the season ends, we have an experienced, respected manager, an engaged owner, Capable Keir Wyness and a team that has at least stopped being piss weak, something that had seemed ingrained forever.

I think changing the manager this summer would an act of absolute stupidity.
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Post by: paul richard on April 26, 2017, 09:36:35 PM
Grasping at straws here a little but may be the pressure of getting results during the season in order to avoid a relegation fight has forced his hand some what in terms of the tried and tested tactics that Bruce has been using, and as a result, he has had to play certain players out of position in order to do that. In addition, if there are a few pieces to the jigsaw missing that doesn't allow Bruce to set up the team utilising the players in their correct positions and with a more attacking style of play then he's even more inclined to stick to the tried and tested formula.

Personally I agree with (what appears to be) the majority that Bruce is an old school manager and what we've been seeing is the Bruce way, and that is unlikely to change...however, until Wyness and Xia roll the dice it is up to Bruce to prove us wrong...or prove us right.

I don't think you're clutching at straws at all, I think you're bang on the money.

I also think that that pragmatism is exactly what we get from employing him over a more adventurous coach, and would argue it was exactly what was required to stop us potentially free falling straight out of this division this season.

Agreed, but at some stage pragmatism has to morph into something much more positive.  We won't get out of this league playing as we are right now.  Is Bruce the man to change things for the better?

That's what no none us know, but then I'd argue that was the case for any realistic replacement too, many of which would come with much more risk.

We can look at his record and see that he's done it several times before with different clubs, which is a about as good an indicator of capability he could have, we can also argue that his teams haven't really been noted for their flair, but also he's not been considered part of the Pulis/Allardyce axis of football brutalists.

As the season ends, we have an experienced, respected manager, an engaged owner, Capable Keir Wyness and a team that has at least stopped being piss weak, something that had seemed ingrained forever.

I think changing the manager this summer would an act of absolute stupidity.
On balance I agree, but we had better hit the ground running at the start of next season, both in terms of results and in style of play.  The margin for error is very small.
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Post by: Chris Smith on April 26, 2017, 10:26:04 PM
Grasping at straws here a little but may be the pressure of getting results during the season in order to avoid a relegation fight has forced his hand some what in terms of the tried and tested tactics that Bruce has been using, and as a result, he has had to play certain players out of position in order to do that. In addition, if there are a few pieces to the jigsaw missing that doesn't allow Bruce to set up the team utilising the players in their correct positions and with a more attacking style of play then he's even more inclined to stick to the tried and tested formula.

Personally I agree with (what appears to be) the majority that Bruce is an old school manager and what we've been seeing is the Bruce way, and that is unlikely to change...however, until Wyness and Xia roll the dice it is up to Bruce to prove us wrong...or prove us right.

I don't think you're clutching at straws at all, I think you're bang on the money.

I also think that that pragmatism is exactly what we get from employing him over a more adventurous coach, and would argue it was exactly what was required to stop us potentially free falling straight out of this division this season.

Agreed, but at some stage pragmatism has to morph into something much more positive.  We won't get out of this league playing as we are right now.  Is Bruce the man to change things for the better?

That's what no none us know, but then I'd argue that was the case for any realistic replacement too, many of which would come with much more risk.

We can look at his record and see that he's done it several times before with different clubs, which is a about as good an indicator of capability he could have, we can also argue that his teams haven't really been noted for their flair, but also he's not been considered part of the Pulis/Allardyce axis of football brutalists.

As the season ends, we have an experienced, respected manager, an engaged owner, Capable Keir Wyness and a team that has at least stopped being piss weak, something that had seemed ingrained forever.

I think changing the manager this summer would an act of absolute stupidity.
On balance I agree, but we had better hit the ground running at the start of next season, both in terms of results and in style of play.  The margin for error is very small.

We have to be more consistent over the whole season but the margin for error is not that small. Newcastle are going up having lost 10 games for example and there are teams in the play offs who have lost only two games fewer than us.
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Post by: paul richard on April 26, 2017, 10:44:19 PM
Grasping at straws here a little but may be the pressure of getting results during the season in order to avoid a relegation fight has forced his hand some what in terms of the tried and tested tactics that Bruce has been using, and as a result, he has had to play certain players out of position in order to do that. In addition, if there are a few pieces to the jigsaw missing that doesn't allow Bruce to set up the team utilising the players in their correct positions and with a more attacking style of play then he's even more inclined to stick to the tried and tested formula.

Personally I agree with (what appears to be) the majority that Bruce is an old school manager and what we've been seeing is the Bruce way, and that is unlikely to change...however, until Wyness and Xia roll the dice it is up to Bruce to prove us wrong...or prove us right.

I don't think you're clutching at straws at all, I think you're bang on the money.

I also think that that pragmatism is exactly what we get from employing him over a more adventurous coach, and would argue it was exactly what was required to stop us potentially free falling straight out of this division this season.

Agreed, but at some stage pragmatism has to morph into something much more positive.  We won't get out of this league playing as we are right now.  Is Bruce the man to change things for the better?

That's what no none us know, but then I'd argue that was the case for any realistic replacement too, many of which would come with much more risk.

We can look at his record and see that he's done it several times before with different clubs, which is a about as good an indicator of capability he could have, we can also argue that his teams haven't really been noted for their flair, but also he's not been considered part of the Pulis/Allardyce axis of football brutalists.

As the season ends, we have an experienced, respected manager, an engaged owner, Capable Keir Wyness and a team that has at least stopped being piss weak, something that had seemed ingrained forever.

I think changing the manager this summer would an act of absolute stupidity.
On balance I agree, but we had better hit the ground running at the start of next season, both in terms of results and in style of play.  The margin for error is very small.

We have to be more consistent over the whole season but the margin for error is not that small. Newcastle are going up having lost 10 games for example and there are teams in the play offs who have lost only two games fewer than us.
OK well it's a question of interpretation.  Without being selective on statistics, the teams in the top 6 have all won many more games than us, and have generally done so with a style of play streets ahead of ours.  We have considerable ground to make up.  I think it can be done, but we will need a couple of players in with the creativity and drive that seems so absent from our performances just now, and we will need Bruce to make the right calls.  I maintain that there's very little margin for error in that.  If we don't start well, and find ourselves, say, outside the top 6 by October, then Bruce will be on thin ice.
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Post by: Matt Collins on April 27, 2017, 06:22:42 AM
There's plenty of margin for error

This league is shit. More creative quality is needed. It mT be that we can squeeze a lot more out of the likes of Lansbury hourihane grealish and green
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Post by: SoccerHQ on April 27, 2017, 09:35:29 AM
Our home form is easily top 6.

We need to win some more away games, only 4 won all season is pathetic.
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Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on April 27, 2017, 11:15:39 AM
OK well it's a question of interpretation.  Without being selective on statistics, the teams in the top 6 have all won many more games than us, and have generally done so with a style of play streets ahead of ours.  We have considerable ground to make up.  I think it can be done, but we will need a couple of players in with the creativity and drive that seems so absent from our performances just now, and we will need Bruce to make the right calls.  I maintain that there's very little margin for error in that.  If we don't start well, and find ourselves, say, outside the top 6 by October, then Bruce will be on thin ice.

I think Bruce is already on thin ice, it's just the thought and fear of having to replace him is keeping him in the job for next season, plus beating the Rags obviously helped. If we'd lost that game his future would have been far less certain and serious questions would have been asked.

If I could see just a glimmer of what Bruce is trying to achieve I'd be supportive of him for next season but right now I just don't see it. The only thing he's changed since taking over from RDM is getting the players to put in more effort, a standard requirement in this division. With the squad we have, the most expensive every assembled in this league, you'd hope and expect a little bit more than hard work. You say we need a couple of creative players but how certain are you Bruce wouldn't play them out of position or to their strengths?

If he is to stay, I wish him all the best as the thought of trying to find a replacement for him mid-season scares me. We need to learn from that mistake and never, ever repeat it.
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Post by: Risso on April 27, 2017, 11:18:44 AM
Our home form is easily top 6.

We need to win some more away games, only 4 won all season is pathetic.

Win more games, and score more goals.  We have to absolutely annihilate this division next season.  My worry is that a few weeks after Xia (or Wyness, forget who) saying that we'd only be adding two or three key players to the squad in the summer, Bruce was quoted after the Blues match as saying he still had a lot of dead wood to get rid of.
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Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on April 27, 2017, 11:26:44 AM
Our home form is easily top 6.

We need to win some more away games, only 4 won all season is pathetic.

Win more games, and score more goals.  We have to absolutely annihilate this division next season.  My worry is that a few weeks after Xia (or Wyness, forget who) saying that we'd only be adding two or three key players to the squad in the summer, Bruce was quoted after the Blues match as saying he still had a lot of dead wood to get rid of.

I wouldn't worry too much. Don't we have something like 12 players out on loan? Then there's a few in this squad that we need to move on. Bringing in 3 "key" players makes sense whilst losing those that we don't need sounds about right.
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Post by: Risso on April 27, 2017, 11:29:06 AM
Our home form is easily top 6.

We need to win some more away games, only 4 won all season is pathetic.

Win more games, and score more goals.  We have to absolutely annihilate this division next season.  My worry is that a few weeks after Xia (or Wyness, forget who) saying that we'd only be adding two or three key players to the squad in the summer, Bruce was quoted after the Blues match as saying he still had a lot of dead wood to get rid of.

I wouldn't worry too much. Don't we have something like 12 players out on loan? Then there's a few in this squad that we need to move on. Bringing in 3 "key" players makes sense whilst losing those that we don't need sounds about right.

True, but given as he was speaking after another poor performance, it sounded to me like he wanted to do a big rebuild.
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Post by: Hookeysmith on April 27, 2017, 11:34:23 AM
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If I could see just a glimmer of what Bruce is trying to achieve I'd be supportive of him for next season but right now I just don't see it. The only thing he's changed since taking over from RDM is getting the players to put in more effort, a standard requirement in this division. With the squad we have, the most expensive every assembled in this league, you'd hope and expect a little bit more than hard work. You say we need a couple of creative players but how certain are you Bruce wouldn't play them out of position or to their strengths?

very well put

Considering he bought the 2 top ranked box to box midfielders and one of the leading scores in the division and then proceeded to tactic / coach their ability to be underutilised and wasted worries me the most
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Post by: paul_e on April 27, 2017, 11:42:52 AM
Considering he bought the 2 top ranked box to box midfielders and one of the leading scores in the division and then proceeded to tactic / coach their ability to be underutilised and wasted worries me the most

100% this.  Being able to see the problem and being able to see a player that could resolve it is great, doing that and then playing them in a different role is just odd.

True, but given as he was speaking after another poor performance, it sounded to me like he wanted to do a big rebuild.

I'm honestly not sure he can control himself in that regard.  As I said earlier over all the seasons I could be bothered to check he averages about 7 signings (and about 4 in January).  I just don't see that changing.  I can see 3-4 gaps he will want to fill (winger with pace, backup centre half, target man, keeper) and that's without anyone leaving (except maybe Johnstone hence keeper is included).  Amavi looks like going so we'll need another left back, that' half a team already and there's bound to be another couple in and out.  Even bringing someone like Veretout back and trying to get him involved would mean a new face for most of the squad.
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Post by: KevinGage on April 27, 2017, 01:33:36 PM
OK well it's a question of interpretation.  Without being selective on statistics, the teams in the top 6 have all won many more games than us, and have generally done so with a style of play streets ahead of ours.  We have considerable ground to make up.  I think it can be done, but we will need a couple of players in with the creativity and drive that seems so absent from our performances just now, and we will need Bruce to make the right calls.  I maintain that there's very little margin for error in that.  If we don't start well, and find ourselves, say, outside the top 6 by October, then Bruce will be on thin ice.

I think Bruce is already on thin ice, it's just the thought and fear of having to replace him is keeping him in the job for next season, plus beating the Rags obviously helped. If we'd lost that game his future would have been far less certain and serious questions would have been asked.

If I could see just a glimmer of what Bruce is trying to achieve I'd be supportive of him for next season but right now I just don't see it. The only thing he's changed since taking over from RDM is getting the players to put in more effort, a standard requirement in this division. With the squad we have, the most expensive every assembled in this league, you'd hope and expect a little bit more than hard work. You say we need a couple of creative players but how certain are you Bruce wouldn't play them out of position or to their strengths?

If he is to stay, I wish him all the best as the thought of trying to find a replacement for him mid-season scares me. We need to learn from that mistake and never, ever repeat it.

Agree with most of that.

After the 1-1 draw against the Rags in October and the recent 1-0, the stock response is level of performance doesn't matter in a derby. It's all about the result.  The issue with that is we've continued to play that way for most of Bruce's tenure, suggesting it is more design than accident at this point.

And speaking of derbies; the Barnsley side that beat Leeds with Hourihane and Bree in it in January did so by playing football. There is another way.  We have just been conditioned into thinking derby/ this league = attritional boofball is required.   
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Post by: LeeB on April 27, 2017, 02:46:03 PM
I haven't been conditioned, just aware that getting from being utterly hopeless for half a decade and the first third of this season to a fluid, attractive team may require a period of dull pragmatism in between.
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Post by: class-of-82 on April 27, 2017, 04:16:26 PM
Bruce needs to identify these "key players" and get negotiations going quck as there will be 3 teams getting relegated with a minimum of £100 million to spend.
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Post by: Ads on April 28, 2017, 07:03:05 AM
That's about £500 million too little for Sunderland.
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Post by: kippaxvilla2 on April 28, 2017, 09:08:03 AM
They need time to 'gel'.
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Post by: Sexual Ealing on April 28, 2017, 08:52:27 PM
I haven't been conditioned, just aware that getting from being utterly hopeless for half a decade and the first third of this season to a fluid, attractive team may require a period of dull pragmatism in between.

I'm on record as agreeing with everything you post, LeeB, but when have you ever seen a Steve Bruce team play fluid, attractive football? If you can think of a time, then now think of all the times you've seen his teams play lumpen, cold-porridge-on-a-winter-Tuesday football.

He seems to be a lovely bloke, but he was brought in in October to do one specific thing, and he's got nowhere near. You don't build a future around Steve Bruce.

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Post by: The_Rev1 on April 30, 2017, 11:21:07 PM
Our home form is easily top 6.

We need to win some more away games, only 4 won all season is pathetic.

8th (43 points) at the moment, could go up to 6th if we beat Brighton 3-0 and Newcastle don't win their final home game.  Could go up to 5th if we beat Brighton 17-0 and other results go our way.  ;D

The away form is pathetic.  20th (18 points), could drop to 21st if Blackburn win their final game.
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Post by: KevinGage on August 19, 2017, 11:03:54 PM
Was concerned he might be one of our surprise departures this summer.

A slow start to his Villa career, it's fair to say -though much of that is down to Bruce's conservationism as much as anything else.  With the arrival of Whelan, I thought he might be one we jettison with the new FFP fixation.

A regular goal getter from midfield is priceless. Not just because of the goals themselves. But because they spread panic in the opposing backline or tie up the defensive midfielder - invariably leaving gaps for other attackers to exploit.

Minus Kodjia, we have been far too predictable in the final third for far too long.
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Post by: olaftab on August 19, 2017, 11:08:39 PM
His link-up with Green and Taylor was superb today and plying his trade in and around the lefthand side of the box is his natural place it appears. Long may it continue.
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Post by: Steve67 on August 19, 2017, 11:11:38 PM
Three lovely goals too. Second one had an element of luck but if you don't shoot you don't score.  The third was crisp. More please!
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Post by: tomd2103 on August 19, 2017, 11:58:04 PM
His link-up with Green and Taylor was superb today and plying his trade in and around the lefthand side of the box is his natural place it appears. Long may it continue.

Only saw it last season in a cameo when came on as sub against Bristol City and was allowed to get forward and run beyond the ball.  He scored that night if I remember as well.  Looked a totally different player today and played with a lot more confidence.
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Post by: passitsideways on August 20, 2017, 12:57:22 AM
Delighted for him - was almost certain the player we'd seen previously as a Villa player was someone who was being underutilised rather than someone who outright lacked the quality. Only one game of course but he showed what he's capable of.

Could've actually had a couple more too - although that's partly a reflection of how bad Norwich were.
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Post by: nodge on August 20, 2017, 01:23:18 AM
Did someone send Bruce the YouTube clips of his goals for Barnsley because he seemed to spend most of his time facing our goal and passing back to our centre halves on Tuesday night against Reading which is clearly not the best role for him.
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Post by: PaulWinch again on August 20, 2017, 05:55:22 AM
Good stuff today Conor, keep it up.
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Post by: manny87 on August 20, 2017, 09:41:21 AM
Anyone know who the last villa midfielder was to grab a hat trick?
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Post by: Clark W Griswold on August 20, 2017, 09:45:47 AM
His 3rd was a touch of class. That is the player we hoped we'd signed. Maybe having the big presence up front is the way to get the best from him, and we now know he's got it in the locker to be part of a promotion chasing side.
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Post by: TheMalandro on August 20, 2017, 09:56:56 AM
and we now know he's got it in the locker to be part of a promotion chasing side.

I hope he stays.
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Post by: Villa75 on August 20, 2017, 10:09:44 AM
Very impressed with him yesterday - who wouldn't be!

I hope this gives him a massive boost, so he can fulfill his potential with us from now on.
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Post by: Dave on August 20, 2017, 10:11:38 AM
Anyone know who the last villa midfielder was to grab a hat trick?

Scott Sinclair if you count him as a midfielder, David Platt if you don't.
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Post by: Virgil Caine on August 20, 2017, 10:17:57 AM
Anyone know who the last villa midfielder was to grab a hat trick?

I asked the same question on the post match thread Manny and answers came back from those more knowledgeable than me that it was either Carbone, Sinclair or Platt. It depends if we are looking at League matches only rather than Cup games and whether the players in question were actually playing in Midfield. The one that I remember is Gary Shelton against, I think, Arsenal, going way back but I am at an age when memory is not my greatest gift.I think it is fair to say that it has been a sodding long time and yesterday it was just great to see midfielders threatening to score ( Whelan had a couple of good volleys on target as well).
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Post by: Matt Collins on August 20, 2017, 11:50:00 AM
Anyone know who the last villa midfielder was to grab a hat trick?

Scott Sinclair if you count him as a midfielder, David Platt if you don't.
Anyone know who the last villa midfielder was to grab a hat trick?

Scott Sinclair if you count him as a midfielder, David Platt if you don't.

Sinclair was playing up front when he scored that hat trick

Carbone was a no 10 I guess but pretty sure he was up w Joachim and Merson behind them
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Post by: SoccerHQ on August 20, 2017, 12:00:19 PM
It's clear the guy is a quality player at this level.

Also clear we've badly mis-used him on the pitch so far.

Hopefully he becomes as integral to our midfield as Jedinak/Whelan are.
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Post by: Chris Smith on August 20, 2017, 12:07:48 PM
It's clear the guy is a quality player at this level.

Also clear we've badly mis-used him on the pitch so far.

Hopefully he becomes as integral to our midfield as Jedinak/Whelan are.

I think it has perhaps taken him time time to adjust to the step up in terms of club size and expectation. The balance looked right yesterday and he and Whelan look like a good pairing.
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Post by: Proposition Joe on August 20, 2017, 12:31:06 PM
What I liked most yesterday was his first, because when your central midfielders are scoring tap-ins it means the team as whole is functioning well. Long may he score tap-ins this season!
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Post by: Mister E on August 20, 2017, 12:59:29 PM
What I liked most yesterday was his first, because when your central midfielders are scoring tap-ins it means the team as whole is functioning well. Long may he score tap-ins this season!
point well made.
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Post by: brontebilly on August 20, 2017, 01:56:03 PM
Did he play in a free role yesterday guys behind Davis ? Third goal was a cracker, exceptional technical ability.
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Post by: ozzjim on August 20, 2017, 02:21:16 PM
I do wonder had all been fit if Bruce would have even started him yesterday. The story about Brighton being interested doesn't shock, he is a very good footballer. We should be building a team around him and letting him play like we did yesterday. I think Bruce would be on thin ice if he sold him now. How on earth did Bacuna start ahead of him on the opening day FFS!
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Post by: brontebilly on August 20, 2017, 02:28:27 PM
I do wonder had all been fit if Bruce would have even started him yesterday. The story about Brighton being interested doesn't shock, he is a very good footballer. We should be building a team around him and letting him play like we did yesterday. I think Bruce would be on thin ice if he sold him now. How on earth did Bacuna start ahead of him on the opening day FFS!

He didn't exactly stand out v Colchester nor Cardiff bar last 20 mins. But he is our most talented player . Key is having a centre forward that can bring him into the play. That's neither Hogan or Kodjia strength.
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Post by: LeeB on August 20, 2017, 09:13:07 PM
I do wonder had all been fit if Bruce would have even started him yesterday. The story about Brighton being interested doesn't shock, he is a very good footballer. We should be building a team around him and letting him play like we did yesterday. I think Bruce would be on thin ice if he sold him now. How on earth did Bacuna start ahead of him on the opening day FFS!

He didn't exactly stand out v Colchester nor Cardiff bar last 20 mins. But he is our most talented player . Key is having a centre forward that can bring him into the play. That's neither Hogan or Kodjia strength.
f

I agree, and wonder what the same would do for Grealish when he comes back.
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Post by: Villafirst on August 20, 2017, 09:15:27 PM
Rumour that Brighton want Hourihane. Source? ....B'ham Mail and The Sun!
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Post by: cdbullyweefan on August 20, 2017, 09:22:36 PM
Fine. They can have him for half a Sigurdsson.
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Post by: Ads on August 20, 2017, 09:28:43 PM
I imagine we'd be able to fend Brighton off.
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Post by: tomd2103 on August 20, 2017, 10:13:25 PM
I do wonder had all been fit if Bruce would have even started him yesterday. The story about Brighton being interested doesn't shock, he is a very good footballer. We should be building a team around him and letting him play like we did yesterday. I think Bruce would be on thin ice if he sold him now. How on earth did Bacuna start ahead of him on the opening day FFS!

He didn't exactly stand out v Colchester nor Cardiff bar last 20 mins. But he is our most talented player . Key is having a centre forward that can bring him into the play. That's neither Hogan or Kodjia strength.
f

I agree, and wonder what the same would do for Grealish when he comes back.

Also agree, but can't see where Grealish would fit into that particular system. A midfield three with Hourihane and Onomah pushing on, with Whelan sweeping up behind them would be the best set up at the moment.
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Post by: Deano's Mullet on August 20, 2017, 10:27:04 PM
Can't see it happening but if Brighton did sign him I would never hear the end of it. Already had dumb comments made like "sorry but we need him".
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Post by: PeterWithesShin on August 20, 2017, 10:39:12 PM
Can't see it happening but if Brighton did sign him I would never hear the end of it. Already had dumb comments made like "sorry but we need him".

"I know, you couldn't even beat the shittest Villa side in over 40 years" is a potential response.
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Post by: Deano's Mullet on August 20, 2017, 10:41:00 PM
Can't see it happening but if Brighton did sign him I would never hear the end of it. Already had dumb comments made like "sorry but we need him".

"I know, you couldn't even beat the shittest Villa side in over 40 years" is a potential response.

Ha ha. Twice!
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Post by: olaftab on August 20, 2017, 10:47:27 PM
Rumour that Brighton want Hourihane. Source? ....B'ham Mail and The Sun!
Brighton...hahahaha. They really should know their status in the football pecking order.
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Post by: ozzjim on August 21, 2017, 12:02:25 AM
Interesting about his comments re his aims now - wants to be in double figures and stays behind to work on his finishing after training every day. Also spoke about how easy it is to play of Davis, and that he always makes the ball stick to him, even in training. Huge asset to have in his game at only 19.
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Post by: passitsideways on August 21, 2017, 12:55:25 AM
Interesting about his comments re his aims now - wants to be in double figures and stays behind to work on his finishing after training every day. Also spoke about how easy it is to play of Davis, and that he always makes the ball stick to him, even in training. Huge asset to have in his game at only 19.

Would be a big boost if he can reach that and we can get, say, 20-25 goals spread across all the other midfielders (Green, Lansbury, Onomah, Elmo, Adomah)
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Post by: PaulWinch again on August 21, 2017, 10:21:29 AM
Selling Hourihane, or not playing him in the correct role, now would be a PR disaster.
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Post by: darren woolley on August 21, 2017, 10:27:11 AM
I really want to keep him he's playing well and scoring don't sell him we need him.
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Post by: KRS on August 21, 2017, 10:44:39 AM
Why would we sell him? As the Spud said, he's only been here 6 months and is still settling in.
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Post by: Ads on August 21, 2017, 10:53:12 AM
The Premier League is an alluring prospect. I'm not sure if the prospect of only having 36 games in there is that alluring mind.
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Post by: KRS on August 21, 2017, 11:02:33 AM
As you said yesterday...
I imagine we'd be able to fend Brighton off.
It would have to be quite some offer for us to even contemplate it given the transfer fees in the PL and that he's got 3 years left on his contract.
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Post by: Clark W Griswold on August 21, 2017, 11:14:20 AM
You have to laugh, 1 late goal midweek and a stunning Hattrick Saturday and he's being linked with a move away all of a sudden. You've got to laugh at the press. No doubt if Davies plays well again on Tuesday the Suns back page will read 'Keen-On Davies' 'Chelsea and Man City to battle for teenage sensation'....
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Post by: eamonn on August 21, 2017, 11:46:18 AM
Where are Hourihanes comments?
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Post by: Mister E on August 21, 2017, 12:07:36 PM
You have to laugh, 1 late goal midweek and a stunning Hattrick Saturday and he's being linked with a move away all of a sudden. You've got to laugh at the press. No doubt if Davies plays well again on Tuesday the Suns back page will read 'Keen-On Davies' 'Chelsea and Man City to battle for teenage sensation'....
Davies?
Who that then? :-)
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Post by: Clampy on August 21, 2017, 12:51:20 PM
You have to laugh, 1 late goal midweek and a stunning Hattrick Saturday and he's being linked with a move away all of a sudden. You've got to laugh at the press. No doubt if Davies plays well again on Tuesday the Suns back page will read 'Keen-On Davies' 'Chelsea and Man City to battle for teenage sensation'....

What Mr Griswold said. Had he not scored that hat-trick on Saturday, that article would probably never have been written.
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Post by: darren woolley on August 21, 2017, 03:42:43 PM
You have to laugh, 1 late goal midweek and a stunning Hattrick Saturday and he's being linked with a move away all of a sudden. You've got to laugh at the press. No doubt if Davies plays well again on Tuesday the Suns back page will read 'Keen-On Davies' 'Chelsea and Man City to battle for teenage sensation'....




What Mr Griswold said. Had he not scored that hat-trick on Saturday, that article would probably never have been written.

Agreed.
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Post by: Matt Collins on August 21, 2017, 06:29:51 PM
The same journalist was adamant Hutton was going to Sheffield Wednesday

I wish he'd been right
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Post by: ozzjim on August 21, 2017, 10:56:03 PM
As you said yesterday...
I imagine we'd be able to fend Brighton off.
It would have to be quite some offer for us to even contemplate it given the transfer fees in the PL and that he's got 3 years left on his contract.

If Clucas is going to Swansea for 16.5m from Hull, then Hourihane is worth around 20!
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Post by: ozzjim on August 21, 2017, 11:20:03 PM
Speaks well in his interview on the OS after the game on Sat. Big praise for Davis. Seems a very level headed bloke, I really hope this week is the start of him playing to his potential because he was bloody brilliant at Barnsley.
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Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on August 21, 2017, 11:29:42 PM
Speaks well in his interview on the OS after the game on Sat. Big praise for Davis. Seems a very level headed bloke, I really hope this week is the start of him playing to his potential because he was bloody brilliant at Barnsley.

Pretty much thought the same. Deserved all the success after the shift he put in on Saturday. Long may it continue.
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Post by: darren woolley on August 22, 2017, 01:02:30 PM
Let's hope this is the start of a really good season for him.
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Post by: IFWaters on September 23, 2017, 07:35:01 PM
Second in the championship top scorers table. Top on goals for minutes played.
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Post by: Villa75 on September 23, 2017, 07:42:40 PM
I like him.

Glad he fucked Snodgrass off for the free kick.
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Post by: Matt Collins on September 23, 2017, 07:46:38 PM
Really pleased for him. Great to have that extra threat

Wish he was a bit more confident on the ball in open play - he plays more backwards passes than Westwood ever did
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Post by: Ads on September 23, 2017, 07:58:22 PM
The midfielders are coming to the party with goals which is very pleasing.
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Post by: Rudy65 on September 23, 2017, 08:06:18 PM
Needs to be more advanced but playing two wingers means he cant. Like him a lot
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Post by: Ad@m on September 23, 2017, 08:32:16 PM
Needs to be more advanced but playing two wingers means he cant. Like him a lot

He can play advanced with two wingers - that's how he got his hat trick against Norwich. But you probably have to sacrifice a striker. But if the one up top is someone who can hold the ball up and give the likes of Hourihane time to get up to support it works. Make Hogan the one up top and it really doesn't.
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Post by: PaulWinch again on September 24, 2017, 10:00:52 AM
Nice to see he's growing into the role now.
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Post by: Matt Collins on December 02, 2017, 10:49:14 PM
Heís having a good season, but Iíd say heís looked off the pace last couple of games. For a ďcultured midfielderĒ I donít think he deals with the ball under pressure a lot of the time

Iíd give Angela a start v Millwall
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Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on December 02, 2017, 10:55:04 PM
To get the best out of both, they need to be played in their best position. Neither are defensive midfielders. Whelan is no box-to-box midfielder either. Omanah is not attacking midfielder. Bruce will get there eventually. Once he sorts out our midfield we'll destroy teams. Bless him, he's still learning (the basics).
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Post by: Ad@m on December 02, 2017, 11:45:06 PM
The ridiculous thing is that pretty much the only time Hourihane has been played in his natural position he scored a hat trick.

Come on Brucie, it's not that hard.
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Post by: Chris Smith on December 03, 2017, 12:02:17 AM
I think with Terry missing we are having to protect the back 4 a little more so the centre of midfield plays a little deeper, particularly away from home against the better sides. That is why he is getting forward less.
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Post by: villan from luton on December 03, 2017, 12:06:26 AM
A central midfielder has to defend as well, think Conor was off the pace last night but like him. He has to show his class, like others
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Post by: ChicagoLion on December 03, 2017, 12:32:22 AM
I think he is being asked to play a role that does not come naturally to him.
He is a creative midfield player yet he is being asked to run and close gaps along side Whelan.
The way Bruce sets us up we are often getting over run in midfield.

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Post by: Ads on December 03, 2017, 08:09:52 AM
We were overrun in the second half at Wolves but I cannot recall that happening since.
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Post by: Risso on December 03, 2017, 09:24:15 AM
We were overrun in the second half at Wolves but I cannot recall that happening since.

First half against Leeds.  30% possession and second by miles to every ball.
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Post by: Chris Smith on December 03, 2017, 09:32:24 AM
We were overrun in the second half at Wolves but I cannot recall that happening since.

First half against Leeds.  30% possession and second by miles to every ball.

True they dominated us at the start but the difference from Wolves was that they looked a threat whereas Leeds only managed one shot on target.
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Post by: Clampy on December 03, 2017, 09:39:52 AM
We were overrun in the second half at Wolves but I cannot recall that happening since.

First half against Leeds.  30% possession and second by miles to every ball.

True they dominated us at the start but the difference from Wolves was that they looked a threat whereas Leeds only managed one shot on target.

This. Did Johnstone make a save all game against Leeds? Wolves were miles better than us though but they've been miles better than most teams.
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Post by: brontebilly on December 03, 2017, 10:35:18 AM
I think he is being asked to play a role that does not come naturally to him.
He is a creative midfield player yet he is being asked to run and close gaps along side Whelan.
The way Bruce sets us up we are often getting over run in midfield.

I thought at Barnsley that he played the role of the deep lying playmaker as part of a sitting 2? I think we look a lot more compact with 2 sitting midfielders but agree it's impacted Hourihane's performances. As others have said, swapping Onomah and Hourihane might work better, even for parts of games.
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Post by: ChicagoLion on December 03, 2017, 12:54:19 PM
We were overrun in the second half at Wolves but I cannot recall that happening since.

First half against Leeds.  30% possession and second by miles to every ball.
First half Blose, I am trying to point out that we are often 2 v 3 in the centre mid and Hourihane is being asked to spend more time defending.
Of course because this Is taken as  a criticism of the manager it gets jumped on by the usual suspects.
Sad we can not even debate team set up.
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Post by: dave.woodhall on December 03, 2017, 01:00:54 PM
We were overrun in the second half at Wolves but I cannot recall that happening since.

First half against Leeds.  30% possession and second by miles to every ball.
First half Blose, I am trying to point out that we are often 2 v 3 in the centre mid and Hourihane is being asked to spend more time defending.
Of course because this Is taken as  a criticism of the manager it gets jumped on by the usual suspects.
Sad we can not even debate team set up.

Bollocks. You get as much chance to debate as anyone else does. You've never been prevented, you've never been stopped and as for being "jumped on" it's getting a bit tiresome when the "Poor me" bit is wheeled out yet again. If you don't want anyone to ever disagree with you or if you're not happy on here, go somewhere else.
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Post by: ChicagoLion on December 03, 2017, 01:23:20 PM
We were overrun in the second half at Wolves but I cannot recall that happening since.

First half against Leeds.  30% possession and second by miles to every ball.
First half Blose, I am trying to point out that we are often 2 v 3 in the centre mid and Hourihane is being asked to spend more time defending.
Of course because this Is taken as  a criticism of the manager it gets jumped on by the usual suspects.
Sad we can not even debate team set up.

Bollocks. You get as much chance to debate as anyone else does. You've never been prevented, you've never been stopped and as for being "jumped on" it's getting a bit tiresome when the "Poor me" bit is wheeled out yet again. If you don't want anyone to ever disagree with you or if you're not happy on here, go somewhere else.
I was genuinely trying to have a discussion about the player on the thread and the way the manager sets the team up and said impact on the player and the team.
Thatís all.
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Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on December 03, 2017, 01:45:51 PM
We were overrun in the second half at Wolves but I cannot recall that happening since.

First half against Leeds.  30% possession and second by miles to every ball.

First half Sheff Weds. They had us chasing shadows.

I agree with Brontť. We have options in midfield and see Whelan as a better defensive midfielder, Omanah better deeper but with some freedom and Hourihane (and Lansbury) further up the pitch or at least going box to box. Until we get the midfield functioning to their strengths and potential we'll continue to have the 3rd best defence but only the 9th best attack. Even with our striker injuries there's plenty of goals in this side and it's something we need to improve.

It's still early days but I honestly believe once we do click we'll smashing a few teams.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: dave.woodhall on December 03, 2017, 01:51:23 PM
We were overrun in the second half at Wolves but I cannot recall that happening since.

First half against Leeds.  30% possession and second by miles to every ball.
First half Blose, I am trying to point out that we are often 2 v 3 in the centre mid and Hourihane is being asked to spend more time defending.
Of course because this Is taken as  a criticism of the manager it gets jumped on by the usual suspects.
Sad we can not even debate team set up.

Bollocks. You get as much chance to debate as anyone else does. You've never been prevented, you've never been stopped and as for being "jumped on" it's getting a bit tiresome when the "Poor me" bit is wheeled out yet again. If you don't want anyone to ever disagree with you or if you're not happy on here, go somewhere else.
I was genuinely trying to have a discussion about the player on the thread and the way the manager sets the team up and said impact on the player and the team.
Thatís all.

And you got one.
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Post by: tomd2103 on December 03, 2017, 03:06:16 PM
We were overrun in the second half at Wolves but I cannot recall that happening since.

First half against Leeds.  30% possession and second by miles to every ball.

First half Sheff Weds. They had us chasing shadows.

I agree with Brontť. We have options in midfield and see Whelan as a better defensive midfielder, Omanah better deeper but with some freedom and Hourihane (and Lansbury) further up the pitch or at least going box to box. Until we get the midfield functioning to their strengths and potential we'll continue to have the 3rd best defence but only the 9th best attack. Even with our striker injuries there's plenty of goals in this side and it's something we need to improve.

It's still early days but I honestly believe once we do click we'll smashing a few teams.

I think our best set up in midfield would be a three with Whelan and Jedinak holding and with Onomah and Hourihane pushed further up like they were against Norwich.  The problem with that formation is when you come up against a side who also play with a holding midfielder (Brentford at home this season is a good example).  Not only did Davis get very isolated because they had a player in front of him, but Onomah and Hourihane ended up getting pushed back and Whelan ended up picking up no one. 
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Percy McCarthy on December 03, 2017, 06:40:41 PM
We were overrun in the second half at Wolves but I cannot recall that happening since.

First half against Leeds.  30% possession and second by miles to every ball.

First half Sheff Weds. They had us chasing shadows.

I agree with Brontť. We have options in midfield and see Whelan as a better defensive midfielder, Omanah better deeper but with some freedom and Hourihane (and Lansbury) further up the pitch or at least going box to box. Until we get the midfield functioning to their strengths and potential we'll continue to have the 3rd best defence but only the 9th best attack. Even with our striker injuries there's plenty of goals in this side and it's something we need to improve.

It's still early days but I honestly believe once we do click we'll smashing a few teams.

I think our best set up in midfield would be a three with Whelan and Jedinak holding and with Onomah and Hourihane pushed further up like they were against Norwich. 

Three?
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Post by: class-of-82 on December 03, 2017, 07:42:35 PM
i honestly don't get this holding midfielder thing anymore
we play arguably the two worst teams in the division in Bolton and sunderland and we play a holding midfielder ???
if we was going to the camp nou or Allianz arena looking for a clean sheet I get it, but really at home to those teams and others.
I have been brought up on box to box midfielders not holding midfielders, who was our holding midfielder when we won the European cup or our league cup triumphs.
 
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Risso on December 03, 2017, 07:53:46 PM
We were overrun in the second half at Wolves but I cannot recall that happening since.

First half against Leeds.  30% possession and second by miles to every ball.

First half Sheff Weds. They had us chasing shadows.

I agree with Brontť. We have options in midfield and see Whelan as a better defensive midfielder, Omanah better deeper but with some freedom and Hourihane (and Lansbury) further up the pitch or at least going box to box. Until we get the midfield functioning to their strengths and potential we'll continue to have the 3rd best defence but only the 9th best attack. Even with our striker injuries there's plenty of goals in this side and it's something we need to improve.

It's still early days but I honestly believe once we do click we'll smashing a few teams.

I think our best set up in midfield would be a three with Whelan and Jedinak holding and with Onomah and Hourihane pushed further up like they were against Norwich. 

Three?

Presumably three in midfield at any one time, with either Onomah or Hourihane playing further up the field supporting Davis.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Woofles The Wonder Dog on December 03, 2017, 08:11:37 PM
Or itís an oblique reference to Jamie Redknappís in-commentary truism last season when he referred to Chelseaís dominant midfield two of Kante on the right, Matic in the middle and Kante on the left.
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Post by: LeeB on December 03, 2017, 09:11:31 PM
Or itís an oblique reference to Jamie Redknappís in-commentary truism last season when he referred to Chelseaís dominant midfield two of Kante on the right, Matic in the middle and Kante on the left.

To be fair, with Kante itís not far off being true.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: passitsideways on December 03, 2017, 11:12:55 PM
Think it's alright while Adomah is still getting the goals/the team is getting results but, yeah, it does feel to me like Hourihane hasn't really been hitting the box at all
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Toronto Villa on February 11, 2018, 10:30:21 PM
Conor Hourihane is proving to be precisely the player we thought we'd signed. What I mean is he's a solid 7/10 player, throws in the odd 8/8.5, gets a 5.5/6 every so often too. Has scored a number of very important goals now as well. He's going to be a great squad player next season, and someone who will work hard for a first team spot. I'll hope we buy a better version of course because he's not PL standard. But he's reliable if nothing else.

One thing that has been so satisfying this season is that our midfield 4 or 5 are all capable of scoring which is an immense weapon as it keeps the opposition guessing as to who to focus on. Throw in Kodjia next season and we could have the makings of a decent mid table side and that's not taking into account players we might buy.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Ad@m on February 11, 2018, 10:38:15 PM
I think he's class.

He's out of form at the moment and has been for a few weeks yet he still had the confidence and quality to score an absolute belter today.

If he can build the confidence to look forward a bit more often, the way Jack's started to, we'll have one hell of a player on our hands.
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Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 11, 2018, 10:57:17 PM
Conor Hourihane Verified account
 
@ConorHourihane 7h7 hours ago

What a day! What a feeling! The city is Claret and Blue!! UTV

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DVw9JZdW0AA-Iak.jpg)
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Post by: Diablo on February 11, 2018, 11:10:54 PM
Conor Hourihane Verified account
 
@ConorHourihane 7h7 hours ago

What a day! What a feeling! The city is Claret and Blue!! UTV

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DVw9JZdW0AA-Iak.jpg)
That right there is a thing of beauty!! Fantastic goal.
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Post by: West Derby Villan on February 12, 2018, 02:18:16 AM
No I'm Spartacus, I said........ he was having a poor game and he should come off, so I get the credit for his goal....
 
Sits back, and thinks what a wonderful day it's been....
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: footyskillz on February 12, 2018, 02:13:48 PM
Have watched match now in full on a recording given to me.
Amazing strike by CH. Has a very great left foot when connecting accurately unstoppable.
He wasnt very apparent in the match overall and I felt he contributed very little. Disappointing in tackling and positioning play I think he wasn't quite sure on things. He made some good moves into the box and Hogan twice missed out on passing to him.
Forever will love the wow goal and hope as a performer his game gets better and he controls midfield. CH wasn't as apparent as Jedinak who won majority of duels. I like his play but yesterday he was struggling in being involved and seemed to be playing higher up. Anyway he gets goals that for sure a midfielder who provides this is great
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: cdbullyweefan on February 12, 2018, 02:40:59 PM
Even on quiet days, he's always capable of scoring a goal. Can't remember the last time we had a team where every midfield player is capable of scoring regularly. Great to see.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: JJ-AV on February 12, 2018, 02:41:30 PM
I think he's a pretty standard player but he's got an incredible ability of scoring out of nothing, so that bumps him up a bit.

He reminds me a little of Sidwell. Except with more of a goal threat.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Hookeysmith on February 12, 2018, 02:47:46 PM
Watch how many times in games he receives the ball facing the wrong way. He receives it, controls it then turns - that split second slows the game down considerably. Now look at him when he gets the ball whilst moving forward - 100 times better.

His run into the box for the goal against Barnsley, the hat trick against Forest - all when moving forward. He came with a big reputation, especially on dead balls,  and we have only seen it in spells especially now as Snodgrass is the considered specialist.
I think Conor is a very good championship player but I do not see enough to think he would be in the premiership - but hey lest worry about that when we get there  ;)
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Post by: paul_e on February 12, 2018, 03:01:03 PM
I think his part in the first goal has been missed as well.  Nothing special but by running in to out across Adomah he forced the defender to choose between following him or challenging Adomah and that split second opened up the space for the shot.
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Post by: Sexual Ealing on February 12, 2018, 03:07:20 PM
I really like him. And I think he's handsome too.
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Post by: LeeB on February 12, 2018, 04:24:07 PM
I think he's a pretty standard player but he's got an incredible ability of scoring out of nothing, so that bumps him up a bit.

He reminds me a little of Sidwell. Except with more of a goal threat.

Spot on. He's a bit weak technically overall, but his movement is good and he strikes the ball bloody well.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Steve67 on February 12, 2018, 04:30:44 PM
I really like him. And I think he's handsome too.

Iím starting to worry about you darling! 😍
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Post by: Sexual Ealing on February 12, 2018, 04:43:30 PM
I really like him. And I think he's handsome too.

Iím starting to worry about you darling! 😍

Nothing to worry about in that comment. I'm heterosexual and fulsome in my praise of the handsome, the good and the clever!
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: wittonwarrior on February 12, 2018, 05:22:52 PM
An above average championship player will be lost against the better premiership teams
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Ad@m on February 12, 2018, 06:38:00 PM
Are we really writing off our second top scorer already?!
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: SoccerHQ on February 12, 2018, 06:40:41 PM
Who knows if he'll step up.

First time I watched him was when Plymouth played in the cup at Stourbridge. He was excellent there when they were in league 2, moved to Barnsley and was good in league 1 and then stepped up no problem to the championship for them.

It certainly took him a good while to settle here, not helped by being played out of position at the start but I'd say he's been reasonably influential this season.

Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: KevinGage on February 12, 2018, 07:21:29 PM
He still has time on his side (though thought he was younger than 27)  if we do secure promotion.

Bournemouth-supporting colleague of mine said there were a few in that side back in 15 who he didn't think were good enough for the topflight based on their championship form. But they found an extra gear playing in the big league.

He'll know it's probably the best (only) chance to nail down a place in a PL team, the rest is up to him.
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Post by: Ads on February 12, 2018, 07:24:06 PM
Usually because the Premier League is shite outside three or four sides.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Matt Collins on February 17, 2018, 06:22:06 PM
Iíve felt for a while that heís too limited and today reaffirmed that that view

He just doesnít have the ability to deal with the ball at speed in tight situations, enough of the time
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: ChicagoLion on February 17, 2018, 06:32:51 PM
Iíve felt for a while that heís too limited and today reaffirmed that that view

He just doesnít have the ability to deal with the ball at speed in tight situations, enough of the time
I think he is a player that needs space and time, but he is. Ring asked to track and cover space, so his creative ability is being stifled.
He should have been given the creative position today.
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Post by: SoccerHQ on February 17, 2018, 06:42:49 PM
Still o.k for me as he does score reasonably regularly.

Seems we went 7 years without a central midfielder actually scoring a goal for us after Milner left.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Matt Collins on February 17, 2018, 06:51:31 PM
Iíve felt for a while that heís too limited and today reaffirmed that that view

He just doesnít have the ability to deal with the ball at speed in tight situations, enough of the time
I think he is a player that needs space and time, but he is. Ring asked to track and cover space, so his creative ability is being stifled.
He should have been given the creative position today.


Heís not fluid or rapid enough to regularly play attacking midfield

Thereís a complete myth that this was his position at Barnsley

Heís good against most championship teams but I always knew heíd struggle today.

Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 17, 2018, 06:53:38 PM
He's scored 3 since August, same as Onomah.

Edit: It's 4, I missed his Forest goal.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: BC Villain on February 17, 2018, 07:08:37 PM
Too many occasions where games pass him by - lots of games where you don't even realise he's on the field.
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Post by: Matt Collins on February 17, 2018, 09:02:54 PM
Agreed

I thought Onomah looked a lot more lively

Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: SoccerHQ on February 17, 2018, 11:14:27 PM
He's scored 3 since August, same as Onomah.

Edit: It's 4, I missed his Forest goal.

Hat-trick v Norwich wasn't it?

He's still a Villa central midfielder on course for double figures in the league. Dinosaurs were just retiring when we last had a midfield player capable of that it seems.
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Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 17, 2018, 11:27:28 PM
Yep which is why I said since August  :P

I just think we should be expecting/hoping for more than 4 in nearly 6 months since then in division 2. AS BCV said it seems a lot of games just pass him by and he should be better than that imo.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: SoccerHQ on February 17, 2018, 11:29:37 PM
He dosen't really have the same role here as Barnsley. There he was the box-to-box player and real heartbeat of their rise. At least we've stopped playing him on the left of midfield and he's been unleashed a bit more in our good run.

I still think he's a good cog in our recent good run. There are bigger issues than him anyway to solve.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: eamonn on February 18, 2018, 12:53:16 AM
He came with a reputation of being the driving force in Barnsley's midfield. I don't know if that just meant he was one of their best players as I only saw him play for them once (in his last game before he joined us when he was man of the match against Leeds).

Based on the above I expected him to be a player who takes games by the scruff of the neck but from what we've seen, he's a neat and tidy player, who goes long periods without having much impact on games but does have a knack for getting into goalscoring positions and also has a great shot on him. A cross between Sidwell and Hitz maybe, with a bit less hammer?
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Matt Collins on February 18, 2018, 06:36:43 AM
Spot on

Heís been carried a bit by grealish Snodgrass and Adomah. We need him to step up now
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Post by: passitsideways on February 18, 2018, 07:10:00 AM
Shrug, at no point in his time with us has the team been set up with him being given the licence to roam around and do whatever the fuck he wants, so I don't know why people are criticising for not abandoning his post to try and do some more of the Roy of the Rovers stuff.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Matt Collins on February 18, 2018, 11:42:03 AM
Shrug, at no point in his time with us has the team been set up with him being given the licence to roam around and do whatever the fuck he wants, so I don't know why people are criticising for not abandoning his post to try and do some more of the Roy of the Rovers stuff.

I completely disagree with this

First, because why should he have that role? He wasnít that sort of player at Barnsley he played centre mid in a 442

Second, because in the current formation he and grealish do have an awful lot of licence and grealish has shown that heís several levels above him in terms of exploiting that role

Thereís a complete myth that if only Bruce would let him off the leash heíd become some sort of magic number 10. I just donít see how people see that in him. Heís a good player at this level Iím not disagreeing with that, but heís quite one paced, very one footed and canít beat a man. I just donít see what others seem to see at all.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: passitsideways on February 18, 2018, 12:05:33 PM
Shrug, at no point in his time with us has the team been set up with him being given the licence to roam around and do whatever the fuck he wants, so I don't know why people are criticising for not abandoning his post to try and do some more of the Roy of the Rovers stuff.

I completely disagree with this

First, because why should he have that role? He wasnít that sort of player at Barnsley he played centre mid in a 442

Second, because in the current formation he and grealish do have an awful lot of licence and grealish has shown that heís several levels above him in terms of exploiting that role

Thereís a complete myth that if only Bruce would let him off the leash heíd become some sort of magic number 10. I just donít see how people see that in him. Heís a good player at this level Iím not disagreeing with that, but heís quite one paced, very one footed and canít beat a man. I just donít see what others seem to see at all.

First of all, I never said that he should have been, or should be getting that sort of role - I'm simply saying that I don't think he's ever had.

I mean, I don't agree that he's been given much of a licence at all, even in this recent run, at least from what I've seen (saw a fair bit of it on AVFC, otherwise just the YT extended highlights). My perception is that it's just been Jack who's been given a free role, while Hourihane is still largely sitting back in midfield.

Which goes to my point - it's unfair to accuse him of "not stepping up" (which I'm presuming means making more game-changing contributions) when he's never been put in the position to do so.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: eamonn on February 18, 2018, 04:56:43 PM
But he doesn't have the ability of Jack to be given a free role.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: passitsideways on February 18, 2018, 11:09:59 PM
I think that goes without saying.

The way I see it is that Bruce sets those two up in the middle to keep it steady and sensible. It was somewhat problematic when we didn't have Jack and Hogan/Snodgrass weren't firing, since it left the team heavily dependent on Adomah, but since Jack came back, it's been fine and I'd rather not see any disruption by having Hourihane or whoever else going all cowboy on us.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: tomd2103 on February 18, 2018, 11:38:47 PM
Shrug, at no point in his time with us has the team been set up with him being given the licence to roam around and do whatever the fuck he wants, so I don't know why people are criticising for not abandoning his post to try and do some more of the Roy of the Rovers stuff.

I completely disagree with this

First, because why should he have that role? He wasnít that sort of player at Barnsley he played centre mid in a 442

Second, because in the current formation he and grealish do have an awful lot of licence and grealish has shown that heís several levels above him in terms of exploiting that role

Thereís a complete myth that if only Bruce would let him off the leash heíd become some sort of magic number 10. I just donít see how people see that in him. Heís a good player at this level Iím not disagreeing with that, but heís quite one paced, very one footed and canít beat a man. I just donít see what others seem to see at all.

I'd have to agree with that Matt. 
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: ChicagoLion on February 18, 2018, 11:39:05 PM
Based on the players that Bruce selects he would appear the most able to provide a creative presence in centre midfield if Jack is not playing.
Whereas Barney is a limited footballer mare akin to running, closing and making a nuisance of himself.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: AsTallAsLions on February 19, 2018, 02:23:00 PM
Shrug, at no point in his time with us has the team been set up with him being given the licence to roam around and do whatever the fuck he wants, so I don't know why people are criticising for not abandoning his post to try and do some more of the Roy of the Rovers stuff.

I completely disagree with this

First, because why should he have that role? He wasnít that sort of player at Barnsley he played centre mid in a 442

Second, because in the current formation he and grealish do have an awful lot of licence and grealish has shown that heís several levels above him in terms of exploiting that role

Thereís a complete myth that if only Bruce would let him off the leash heíd become some sort of magic number 10. I just donít see how people see that in him. Heís a good player at this level Iím not disagreeing with that, but heís quite one paced, very one footed and canít beat a man. I just donít see what others seem to see at all.

You are correct about his pace and he is one footed, however he also has a mean shot on him and isn't a bad passer of the ball either. Those are decent qualities for a midfielder. It's not all or nothing. He gives us something we didn't always have in midfield and that's why we bought him. He'll have ups and downs.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: footyskillz on February 21, 2018, 03:01:18 PM
Too many occasions where games pass him by - lots of games where you don't even realise he's on the field.

Agreed. Again from seeing the recordings of matches this is the case. Last night only had one half to be showing his lack of impact. Useful and seemed to get complacent once made starting line up for a while. His performances aren't meriting a start at this moment.
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Post by: Ad@m on February 24, 2018, 06:01:15 PM
He's been getting some stick lately and while it's clear he's not in the best of form he's still popping up with goals.

Been a while since we had a proper goal scoring centre midfielder. Long may it continue.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Toronto Villa on February 24, 2018, 06:08:16 PM
He's been getting some stick lately and while it's clear he's not in the best of form he's still popping up with goals.

Been a while since we had a proper goal scoring centre midfielder. Long may it continue.

In my opinion thereís two types of player in one. The version who is asked to defend, sit deep, play with in a much conservative manner is the one who looks highly ineffective. The other version who is allowed license to attack and roam into threatening positions scores goals and generally gets into decent positions higher up the pitch. Bruce is trying to make him to both of those versions. Itís not going to work. If heís supported by a strong DM as a solid squad player heíll be generally very effective when called upon.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: pauliewalnuts on February 24, 2018, 06:22:05 PM
He is one of my favourite players.

He absolute runs his heart out and has a deadly shot on him.

It seems like about 200 years since we had a midfielder who could score goals on a regular basis, too.

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Post by: Ad@m on February 24, 2018, 06:29:16 PM
Me too - he's a class act.

Like TV says, when he's asked to sit deep you lose what he's good at. I hope we give him the chance to show if he can make it in the Prem...
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Post by: KevinGage on February 24, 2018, 06:31:32 PM
He's an odd player, in that when you look at his goalscoring and assists record last season for Barnsley, you'd assume we were getting an attacking midfielder.

But even at Barnsley, he apparently liked to sit deep and would look quiet for long periods.

He's not a midfielder in the tradition of a Cowans or Barry, where it would usually be a case of if they played well, Villa played well. True, that pair possessed a rare enough quality. But I thought we might be getting a Championship version of that; someone to dictate the pace and tempo of the game.

Someone made the comparison with Westwood earlier, and I see that.  From his time with us last season, that's how he looked to me - a Westwood-type with a better final ball and shot.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: SoccerHQ on February 24, 2018, 06:31:40 PM
Obviously you have to deduct those goals in August as it was so long ago eh PWS....
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Post by: SamTheMouse on February 24, 2018, 06:58:08 PM
He's way better than Westwood. Takes up much more productive attacking positions and doesn't get a nosebleed if he goes near the opposition box.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: SoccerHQ on February 24, 2018, 06:59:30 PM
He's more similar in style to Delph. Not of that quality but takes up deep positions but can also get forward.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Goldie.7 on February 24, 2018, 07:06:12 PM
If he carries on this 2018 goal scoring form he should finish around 13-15 goals, which would be a great return.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 24, 2018, 07:16:20 PM
Obviously you have to deduct those goals in August as it was so long ago eh PWS....

I said that since then scoring 4 in the last 6 months was disappointing from him as he should be better than that. Hardly the most controversial post ever.
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Post by: brontebilly on February 24, 2018, 07:43:51 PM
Excellent last 20 minutes anyway and a superb goal. Far more comfortable in the opposition box that our one. Bit passive to be playing in a midfield two at a higher level I reckon but let's worry about that at a later date.

9 goals is fair going and hopefully 4 or 5 more to come.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Matt Collins on February 24, 2018, 08:09:37 PM
HE reminds me of Hitz more than anyone else

Great left peg. Not really good enough at the most competitive levels.  But could be vital this season
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: LeeB on February 24, 2018, 08:12:12 PM
HE reminds me of Hitz more than anyone else

Great left peg. Not really good enough at the most competitive levels.  But could be vital this season

A kind of cross between Hitz and Sidwell for me. Hitz was a bit classier, but not as mobile or dangerous inside the box.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Risso on February 24, 2018, 08:25:14 PM
HE reminds me of Hitz more than anyone else

Great left peg. Not really good enough at the most competitive levels.  But could be vital this season

A kind of cross between Hitz and Sidwell for me. Hitz was a bit classier, but not as mobile or dangerous inside the box.

Hitz couldnít tackle to save his life either. Hourihane can at least get stuck in occasionally.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: LeeB on February 24, 2018, 08:31:43 PM
HE reminds me of Hitz more than anyone else

Great left peg. Not really good enough at the most competitive levels.  But could be vital this season

A kind of cross between Hitz and Sidwell for me. Hitz was a bit classier, but not as mobile or dangerous inside the box.

Hitz couldnít tackle to save his life either. Hourihane can at least get stuck in occasionally.

Westwood was like a 'Shittest Hits' of all of them, Hitz's tackling, Hourihane's touch and Sidwell's vision.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: ColinMac on February 24, 2018, 10:33:58 PM
HE reminds me of Hitz more than anyone else

Great left peg. Not really good enough at the most competitive levels.  But could be vital this season

Hitz not really good enough at the most competitive levels, that Bundesliga medal and 52 German caps showed what a limited player he was.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Tayls_7 on February 24, 2018, 11:16:36 PM
HE reminds me of Hitz more than anyone else

Great left peg. Not really good enough at the most competitive levels.  But could be vital this season

Hitz not really good enough at the most competitive levels, that Bundesliga medal and 52 German caps showed what a limited player he was.

Some German teams must be blessed with 3 very pacey, dynamic midfielders.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Ads on February 24, 2018, 11:20:38 PM
He was a full back in the Stutgart side.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Tayls_7 on February 24, 2018, 11:29:24 PM
Missing a t.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Toronto Villa on February 24, 2018, 11:31:48 PM
Missing a t.

Sttutgart? Are you sure?
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Tayls_7 on February 24, 2018, 11:36:55 PM
Yes. That's perfectly acceptable :o
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Percy McCarthy on February 25, 2018, 07:18:17 AM
Part of the reason heís not running games is whenever we turnover possession his instruction is simply to make a run into the opposition box to take a player away from Hogan, and until they were injured, Jack and Albert. An instruction that he selflessly follows unless it is him who has won possession. Unless youíre watching him closely or it leads to a goal like Albert!s in the b-lose game itís a contribution that goes unnoticed and uncredited. Proper team player.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: olaftab on February 25, 2018, 10:28:54 AM
Missing a t.

Sttutgart? Are you sure?
Errm...Stutgartt silly.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: olaftab on February 25, 2018, 10:32:42 AM
Sometimes he appears to go  missing, but may be that's explained in Percy's post, however you can not but admire his goals. A long time since we ave had a midfielder contributing as many as he has bagged.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: saunders_heroes on February 25, 2018, 10:44:39 AM
I donít think heís a particularly good player and I often find myself muttering under my breath when heís on the ball but his goals have been vital to the Villa this season, so fair play to him.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: boozey182 on February 25, 2018, 10:51:18 AM
He's sort of like a midfield version of Darren Bent: if he doesn't score then you'd struggle to point to anything he does in a match. But having the knack of chipping in with important goals is such a rare skill, and when Jack is back, his deficiencies will be diluted somewhat.

He drives me mental, but without his goals we'd be struggling to keep pace with the leaders, so fair play Conor.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Tayls_7 on February 25, 2018, 12:48:02 PM
Missing a t.

Sttutgart? Are you sure?
Errm...Stutgartt silly.

That rogue t is a bit like Der Hammer, willing to venture forward but now out of position and not able to get back when needed.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: kieron on March 16, 2018, 07:39:21 AM
Conor wins Championship Goal of the Month:

https://twitter.com/SkyBetChamp/status/974549578841296896
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Diablo on March 16, 2018, 10:43:40 AM
Congratulations on your first goal of the month award Conor! T'was a belter!
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Smirker on March 16, 2018, 10:50:40 AM
Great goal.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Ad@m on March 16, 2018, 11:55:08 AM
It was a great goal but I think it's got more to do with the fact he plays for the best (supported) team in the league - some of the other goals were absolute crackers!
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Ads on March 16, 2018, 12:02:05 PM
I think he needs dropping.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: cdbullyweefan on March 16, 2018, 12:04:07 PM
I'm not sure. Whenever I think he's doing poorly, he scores a vital goal.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Ad@m on March 16, 2018, 05:33:19 PM
That's the thing. Games can seem to be passing him by and then he pops up with a goal. It's been a long time since had a centre midfielder like that.

He's certainly not the driving midfielder in the mould of Milner or Delph we'd like but then you don't get many of those sorts of players in the 2nd Division.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Mister E on March 16, 2018, 07:11:57 PM
Thing is, he is not the killer-passer I thought we were getting; he is not the MF destroyer that SB seems to sometimes want of him; he not the ball-retainer that he should be (and he does get caught out a lot on the ball); and, he's not the Duracell bunny player who runs on and on for ever (in fact, he seems to run out of steam quite quickly).

So, I'm not sure what he brings to the team, other than the occasional goal.

And I'm trying hard not to be negative!
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Rudy65 on March 16, 2018, 08:18:58 PM
Thing is, he is not the killer-passer I thought we were getting; he is not the MF destroyer that SB seems to sometimes want of him; he not the ball-retainer that he should be (and he does get caught out a lot on the ball); and, he's not the Duracell bunny player who runs on and on for ever (in fact, he seems to run out of steam quite quickly).

So, I'm not sure what he brings to the team, other than the occasional goal.

And I'm trying hard not to be negative!

Negative. But true
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: bill on March 17, 2018, 10:40:14 AM
He scores goals. But his all round game isnít as good as Iíd hoped for. Difficult to ignore those goals though.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Matt Collins on March 17, 2018, 11:31:43 AM
In general performances he isnít doing it

But Iíd fancy him to score a couple more crucial goals this season so I can see why heís still playing

Personally Iíd play Lansbury today though
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: footyskillz on March 17, 2018, 09:32:59 PM
Glad he was subbed on 55 mins or so and should have been subbed at half time either for Jedinak or Lansbury.

Has been little of contributes in overall play and there are actually other players who can get goals from midfield as much as he has if they played.
 
I do like his shooting and his set pieces can  e effective but don't think he feels totally settled and established and struggles as a fish in big pond having to step up in class.

He plays in that middle because he balances with a left foot but I get annoyed with his most favourite play being two arms out in air appealing for things being the most notable of things he's doing.
Great shot on him though.

Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Matt Collins on March 17, 2018, 10:28:33 PM
Yep. The occasional great goal and good set piece. So I can see why he plays

But time and again heís a passenger for most of the game
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: adrenachrome on March 17, 2018, 10:46:10 PM
The player presents a most difficult conundrum. This is my theory.

If you put him in a lower level championship stup, he will dominate the midfield and make surging forward runs, sometimes resulting in spectacular goals.

If you stick him in a team where he realizes 3 or 4 of the midfielders are far better him, even if they rarely show it, he is less likely to express himself.

It's only a theory. Please don't hate me. I hatez the haterz, hun.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: David_Nab on March 17, 2018, 11:15:12 PM
The player presents a most difficult conundrum. This is my theory.

If you put him in a lower level championship stup, he will dominate the midfield and make surging forward runs, sometimes resulting in spectacular goals.

If you stick him in a team where he realizes 3 or 4 of the midfielders are far better him, even if they rarely show it, he is less likely to express himself.

It's only a theory. Please don't hate me. I hatez the haterz, hun.

He plays as a 2 man midfield behind 4 attacking players so mostly he has to sit deeper to allow them to go forward.Really he should be more attacking as thats his strengh but it would leave us light in defence ..

For me the goals mask the fact he contributes little .In general I don't think we have a CM who can dictate play they are all tidy enough and can pass sideways but beyond that they are limited.We do better when we can sit and counter and bypass midfield and get it to the 3 players behind the striker to do something.In games like tonight where the play is slower we are always poor
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: adrenachrome on March 17, 2018, 11:43:38 PM
The player presents a most difficult conundrum. This is my theory.

If you put him in a lower level championship stup, he will dominate the midfield and make surging forward runs, sometimes resulting in spectacular goals.

If you stick him in a team where he realizes 3 or 4 of the midfielders are far better him, even if they rarely show it, he is less likely to express himself.

It's only a theory. Please don't hate me. I hatez the haterz, hun.

He plays as a 2 man midfield behind 4 attacking players so mostly he has to sit deeper to allow them to go forward.Really he should be more attacking as thats his strengh but it would leave us light in defence ..

For me the goals mask the fact he contributes little .In general I don't think we have a CM who can dictate play they are all tidy enough and can pass sideways but beyond that they are limited.We do better when we can sit and counter and bypass midfield and get it to the 3 players behind the striker to do something.In games like tonight where the play is slower we are always poor

Wouldn't disagree with that analysis.

The question is: why did we sign him?
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: David_Nab on March 17, 2018, 11:59:36 PM
The player presents a most difficult conundrum. This is my theory.

If you put him in a lower level championship stup, he will dominate the midfield and make surging forward runs, sometimes resulting in spectacular goals.

If you stick him in a team where he realizes 3 or 4 of the midfielders are far better him, even if they rarely show it, he is less likely to express himself.

It's only a theory. Please don't hate me. I hatez the haterz, hun.

He plays as a 2 man midfield behind 4 attacking players so mostly he has to sit deeper to allow them to go forward.Really he should be more attacking as thats his strengh but it would leave us light in defence ..

For me the goals mask the fact he contributes little .In general I don't think we have a CM who can dictate play they are all tidy enough and can pass sideways but beyond that they are limited.We do better when we can sit and counter and bypass midfield and get it to the 3 players behind the striker to do something.In games like tonight where the play is slower we are always poor

Wouldn't disagree with that analysis.

The question is: why did we sign him?

Well you could ask that of
Hogan - £12mil on a striker who needs through balls and barely touches the ball
Bree- RB who only plays LB  when the left footed LB is injured who was only in the team because the Right footed RB got injured
Lanbury - CM who sits on the Bench and has come on once as a MF replacement in the last 8 or so games he has been back from injury

Houriahane has good attributes I just think for the most part sitting deeper doesn't show them
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on May 28, 2018, 05:05:52 PM
Done his medial ligaments apparently.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Risso on May 28, 2018, 05:09:27 PM
He reminds me in some ways of Hitz. Great shot on him, a few great goals but not much else.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Ad@m on May 28, 2018, 05:13:45 PM
Done his medial ligaments apparently.

Not the most important thing but the tackle that caused his injury was an absolute belter. Saved a goal.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Pat McMahon on May 28, 2018, 05:17:14 PM
He reminds me in some ways of Hitz. Great shot on him, a few great goals but not much else.

Matches my own assessment exactly.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: wittonwarrior on May 28, 2018, 05:17:57 PM
Not good the injury but overall a powder puff of a player
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: mr underhill on May 28, 2018, 05:22:51 PM
how long is he out for?
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Matt Collins on May 28, 2018, 07:54:22 PM
He reminds me in some ways of Hitz. Great shot on him, a few great goals but not much else.

Yep. I got panned for saying this a while back. Him and jedinak in midfield just isn't creative enough

If someone bids a decent amount for him I'd definitely sell. Really not sure what is realistic but hoping someone might be £6-8m

Although I've just seen the medial ligaments rumour

Fuck it
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: PeterWithesShin on May 28, 2018, 07:56:56 PM
Being able to chip in with goals is a great habit to have, but far to often if he doesn't score he's not offering us much else.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: ozzjim on May 28, 2018, 07:59:42 PM
Another one that can't make us any money this year. He was creative and really combative in a deeper role at Barnsley. He needs to really step up next season.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: PeterWithe on May 28, 2018, 07:59:51 PM
Yup, he flew about 10 feet up in the air as that tackle hit him.

Fantastic goal return and a great energetic performance in the home semi, apart from that Iíve never quite warmed to him. Too weak, too slow
, goes to ground too easily when trying to win the ball.

Heíll feel hard done by but his replacement would be something we need to consider to make us a more rounded team
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: pauliewalnuts on May 28, 2018, 08:11:19 PM
Anyone else hear Neil Young singing "You are Conor Hourihane" every time they see his name?

If we sold him, it would at least stop that happening.

Just me?
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Sexual Ealing on May 28, 2018, 08:14:13 PM
Anyone else hear Neil Young singing "You are Conor Hourihane" every time they see his name?

If we sold him, it would at least stop that happening.

Just me?

Just you until now.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: footyskillz on August 08, 2018, 12:18:23 PM
If it wasn't for goals I don't know if he be in team   
Felt he was carried v hull and that he not whipping the ball in like snoddy did .

At times he flighted it or clipped it .

Unlucky with free kick and good to have him on this at least don't miss snoddy hitting the wall .

Just feel he needs to be far more apparent on the ball and making runs.
Felt whelan showed him up as midfielder and as mcginn is left footed it will give him some competition.

I hope he actually imposes himself in the play a lot more rather than the odd pass and set piece.

He did assist elmo but that was luck from poor hull goal kick .

A similar problem is his actual position and how to get best out of him as it is it Bjarnasson . It's also to either have them develop so they can play in systems or have set system . I think he's had to slightly play different midfield roles.

I don't think he passes forward enough and would mainly like to see that.
But also would like to see him demand the ball and get hold of it if he wants to be the midfielder then he needs to be impacting a heck of a lot more
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Tuscans on August 08, 2018, 12:25:37 PM
If it wasn't for goals I don't know if he be in team   
Felt he was carried v hull and that he not whipping the ball in like snoddy did .

At times he flighted it or clipped it .

Unlucky with free kick and good to have him on this at least don't miss snoddy hitting the wall .

Just feel he needs to be far more apparent on the ball and making runs.
Felt whelan showed him up as midfielder and as mcginn is left footed it will give him some competition.

I hope he actually imposes himself in the play a lot more rather than the odd pass and set piece.

He did assist elmo but that was luck from poor hull goal kick .

A similar problem is his actual position and how to get best out of him as it is it Bjarnasson . It's also to either have them develop so they can play in systems or have set system . I think he's had to slightly play different midfield roles.

I don't think he passes forward enough and would mainly like to see that.
But also would like to see him demand the ball and get hold of it if he wants to be the midfielder then he needs to be impacting a heck of a lot more

He always looks invisible to me. You don't hear or see him unless he scores or slices through a player from behind who just went past him. He struggles to get games for his country and Ireland are hardly blessed with top centre mids.

That's why I've said with him, Whelan or Jedinak in that centre we look slow and poor with the ball.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Matt Collins on August 08, 2018, 05:19:30 PM
If we do sign mcginn, he looks quite a similar player. Left footed central midfielder who likes a shot.

If mcginn is anything like as good as some would have you believe then I could see him replacing hourihane for all the reasons above. We can't keep fielding a midfield three where two of them are poor at passing the ball forwards. This really stood out v Fulham in the play off final where their whole midfield three passed and moved well

But if mcginn really was that good I'd have thought celtic could offer him game time. That has been suggested as a reason for him joining us (if he is)
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: footyskillz on August 09, 2018, 11:21:07 AM
If it wasn't for goals I don't know if he be in team   
Felt he was carried v hull and that he not whipping the ball in like snoddy did .

At times he flighted it or clipped it .

Unlucky with free kick and good to have him on this at least don't miss snoddy hitting the wall .

Just feel he needs to be far more apparent on the ball and making runs.
Felt whelan showed him up as midfielder and as mcginn is left footed it will give him some competition.

I hope he actually imposes himself in the play a lot more rather than the odd pass and set piece.

He did assist elmo but that was luck from poor hull goal kick .

A similar problem is his actual position and how to get best out of him as it is it Bjarnasson . It's also to either have them develop so they can play in systems or have set system . I think he's had to slightly play different midfield roles.

I don't think he passes forward enough and would mainly like to see that.
But also would like to see him demand the ball and get hold of it if he wants to be the midfielder then he needs to be impacting a heck of a lot more

He always looks invisible to me. You don't hear or see him unless he scores I slices through a player from behind who just went past him. He struggles to get games for his country and Ireland are hardly blessed with top centre mids.

That's why I've said with him, Whelan or Jedinak in that centre we look slow and poor with the ball.

Yes invisible would be the term if it wasn't for set pieces and goals he wouldn't be considered .

I hope McGinty gives him competition and looks like the Scottish one can play both feet
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: footyskillz on August 11, 2018, 07:35:32 AM
Depending on system i hope he is dropped today v wigan and others given a chance.

Though imagine he ll get his ' rest' v Yeovil
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Matt Collins on August 11, 2018, 09:10:02 AM
Can't see him not playing today

But can't really see who McGinn comes in for if it isn't him, in time
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Clampy on August 11, 2018, 09:35:34 AM
I think his best game for us was against Boro in the 2nd leg play off. He was immense that night. He does seem to dip out of games but I think he's been a decent buy for the money we paid.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Risso on August 11, 2018, 09:38:50 AM
I think his best game for us was against Boro in the 2nd leg play off. He was immense that night. He does seem to dip out of games but I think he's been a decent buy for the money we paid.

Yes, in terms of goals scored he's been fine.  I'm hoping that playing with somebody more dynamic in McGinn will help him out a bit, as the getting your shorts dirty stuff isn't really his game.  I've said it before, but playing with Whelan and Jedinak puts pressure on the rest of the midfield because of their complete lack of mobility.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: eamonn on August 11, 2018, 10:35:47 AM
Didn't he play a very different role at Barnsley? I just can't imagine him as the driver from midfield that people described him as when we bought him. I'd take that with half a dozen goals less a season than the hider with a poacher's instinct and not much else besides that we seem to have got.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: passitsideways on August 11, 2018, 11:04:36 AM
Didn't he play a very different role at Barnsley? I just can't imagine him as the driver from midfield that people described him as when we bought him. I'd take that with half a dozen goals less a season than the hider with a poacher's instinct and not much else besides that we seem to have got.

I went and had a look at a breakdown of his assists and chances created from his final half-season at Barnsley, and it wasn't just set pieces - he had plenty of them in open play as well. I think it has to be a case of him having to take a backseat because either everything goes through Grealish if it's going through the middle, or we look for a one-on-one out wide.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Hookeysmith on August 11, 2018, 11:16:08 AM
I've mentioned this few times previously. During the game watch how many times he gets the ball facing the wrong way. He needs to have it whilst moving forward to be really effective.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Fred Crump on August 11, 2018, 11:21:03 AM
I've mentioned this few times previously. During the game watch how many times he gets the ball facing the wrong way. He needs to have it whilst moving forward to be really effective.
Yes because he doesnít have the agility to receive the ball and play on the turn like top class midfielders do.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Lastfootstamper on August 11, 2018, 11:22:47 AM
I've mentioned this few times previously. During the game watch how many times he gets the ball facing the wrong way. He needs to have it whilst moving forward to be really effective.
Yes because he doesnít have the agility to receive the ball and play on the turn like top class midfielders do.

That's the Championship.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: footyskillz on August 11, 2018, 11:49:08 AM
I think his best game for us was against Boro in the 2nd leg play off. He was immense that night. He does seem to dip out of games but I think he's been a decent buy for the money we paid.

In regards to what we paid yes 100%

Especially when the fails of McCormack and Lesser but still uncovincing Hogan.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: footyskillz on August 12, 2018, 08:14:47 AM
Versus wigan. Was good to see he was dropped but happy he came on and assisted the goal for the win.

Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: LeeB on August 12, 2018, 08:20:29 AM
I've mentioned this few times previously. During the game watch how many times he gets the ball facing the wrong way. He needs to have it whilst moving forward to be really effective.
Yes because he doesnít have the agility to receive the ball and play on the turn like top class midfielders do.

Spot on sir.

It was exposed at the dingle den last season, with Neves showing how it's done in contrast.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Matt Collins on August 12, 2018, 09:03:45 AM
The fact he got double digit goals ans never seems linked with a premier league team is pretty telling I think

The only way I can see him getting in the side alongside jack and mcginn is if we play 352. Otherwise there's not enough protection
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: passitsideways on August 12, 2018, 09:23:49 AM
I don't think it tells anything, really, given the state of the transfer rumours business.

I think he's the odd man out for now, but they need to figure out a way for him to be effective because Grealish can't be expected to play every minute and McGinn may go through ups and downs. Plus, still need goals from midfield unless a 20 goal striker suddenly emerges from the ether.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Matt Collins on August 12, 2018, 09:26:06 AM
Yep that's the conundrum w hourihane

But would he have got in the Fulham or wolves side last year? No way
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Steve67 on August 12, 2018, 09:58:06 AM
I think there is even less protection with 3-5-2 and the holding player in that role needs to be more Jedinak than Whelan.  Hopefully, someone signed on loan who is even better!  Hourihane dipping in and out of the side, if we are evidencing moving the team forward, is exactly the right thing.  Then he comes on and does what he did yesterday.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Percy McCarthy on August 12, 2018, 10:31:28 AM
Iíve said it before but if you watch him in a game, every time we win the ball his job is not to show to receive but to make a run to take players away from JG. Hence people think heís not involved.

If thereís no CH, Albert and Snodgrass starting regularly this season thatís a huge drop in goals and assists we need to make up.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: passitsideways on August 12, 2018, 10:32:38 AM
Yep that's the conundrum w hourihane

But would he have got in the Fulham or wolves side last year? No way

I don't think any of the midfielders in those teams besides Neves and Cairney were all that, the difference is they both played systems which ensured that they had the ball a lot, instead of having to go out of their way to try and impose themselves on the game.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: wittonwarrior on August 12, 2018, 10:57:47 AM
Take away one or two special moments and not a lot is left to remember.  He will struggle to get back in permantly and certainly in the starting 11 which is not a bad  thing  for the team as it shows we are progressing.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Richard on August 12, 2018, 11:12:25 AM
I don't see why Hourihane Grealish and McGinn can't play in a 3 just ahead of a more defensive midfielder 
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Rigadon on August 12, 2018, 11:42:55 AM
I don't see why Hourihane Grealish and McGinn can't play in a 3 just ahead of a more defensive midfielder 

They could but there wouldn't be much width unless we pay 5-4-1 with very attacking wing backs.   Also would require a centre forward who can get >20 goals on his own (and those 3 pitching in with their fair share). 
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Keeno on August 12, 2018, 12:16:08 PM
I don't see why Hourihane Grealish and McGinn can't play in a 3 just ahead of a more defensive midfielder 

They could but there wouldn't be much width unless we pay 5-4-1 with very attacking wing backs.   Also would require a centre forward who can get >20 goals on his own (and those 3 pitching in with their fair share). 

Either that, or a diamond in midfield with BB at the base, McGinn and Hourihane shuttling either side and Grealish at the 10 behind a front two (Kodjia and Adomah perhaps). As you say, you'd need good fullbacks with lots of energy - could RDM and Hutton do it?
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Post by: Matt Collins on August 12, 2018, 07:12:11 PM
I don't see why Hourihane Grealish and McGinn can't play in a 3 just ahead of a more defensive midfielder 

Well they could do in a diamond although one would have to play on the right

Or if grealish was wide but I don't see why you'd do that
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Post by: OCD on August 12, 2018, 07:36:50 PM
I think playing those 3 in front of a DM would be fine if we had a striker with really good hold-up play. They could then all bomb forward when once the ball has been played (hoofed) up to the striker and allow him to feed one of those 3. That certainly wouldn't play to Hogan's strengths and I'm not sure it does to Kodija either. Davis and possibly RHM, from the little I've seen of him, could do that though. I think Bruce will switch to 3-5-2 at some point though and try to get Kodija and Hogan working together with 2 of those 3 midfielders in front of someone sitting in front of the back.
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Post by: tomd2103 on August 12, 2018, 08:21:01 PM
The way I see it, McGinn arriving has now really upped the competition for midfield places, so the onus is on Hourihane to step up.  Good competition is healthy for us. 
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Post by: dcdavecollett on August 14, 2018, 04:20:21 PM
Agreed. Hourihane could be very useful for us coming off the bench, as he proved on Saturday.
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Post by: footyskillz on August 15, 2018, 07:50:43 AM
Predictably weak first half when he did get involved and gave some sloppy passes . One time he was so bad at passing he got a yellow card for pulling guy back .Bruce would have noted that I think and his usual lack of responsibility in taking the ball and getting involved.

Of course he got his goal which is his main use and wouldn't be near team if he didnt have a goal in him.

Like a bit more from his corners too .
I'll support him as he can be very impressive with his play but too many times he just disappears
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Post by: Matt Collins on August 15, 2018, 08:05:26 AM
I agree

He was atrocious first half

But he's probably our most reliable goalscorer

Given how poor our wide players have been I wonder if Bruce will try to get him into the side alongside jack and mcginn
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Post by: footyskillz on August 15, 2018, 08:34:31 AM
Sometimes I not sure if expecting too much so it's  helps to know that I not exactly alone on seeing his play .

I tried to be balanced and realise maybe he's not premier league quality but if he does what he does without creating impressions other than goals it's only half a good problem to have

I thought Whelan was very apparent yesterday and would like hourihane getting on ball far more or are least moving when he's passed .

I think Percy on here made a good point about the work he does off the ball by his forward runs and then creating space.

However I do see conor run back to get along side to players with the ball and then would often passes sideways or back .

There is the occasions with a quarter back or Hollywood pass which he enjoys but does infrequently both in success of pass and making them .

Well played to him getting the goal speaks well of the Villa and I think he may not have Bruce's total confidence .

I had to remind myself he's come back from a injury established in the final minutes against Fulham desperate in trying to get to the ball . His lack of pace and reaction meant he didn't get there for one of his almightys but he does offer a genuine goal getting attitude some how !

I just like it to be way more apparent in matches especially against Yeovil. No disrespectful to the league two team. Conor should be running that midfield and feeding balls.
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Post by: RussellC on August 15, 2018, 08:41:02 AM
Last night summed Hourihane up perfectly. Very poor first half - sloppy in possession, late into the tackle (correctly booked), fairly anonymous second-half but then popped-up with the winning goal.

For all of his faults he consistently produces and makes big contributions. To be completely fair to him, he was the match-winner both on Saturday and last night.

With McGinn coming-in I expect Hourihane to become more of a 'squad player' this season, but I also think that he gives us great option to come-off the bench, and play in cup games.  As others have said, I don't see him as being able to play as a holding midfielder or out-wide, and he doesn't carry the ball well enough to be a direct understudy to either Grealish or McGinn.
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Post by: footyskillz on August 15, 2018, 08:49:31 AM
Great way of putting his contribution. And how he may turn out as squad player. Makes total sense that happening .

One challenge though ! To be completely fair to villa squad

 Bjarnasson was match winner v wigan as he scored the winning goal.
We can have Conor assisted with an excellent cross but Bjarnasson was the match winner .
Otherwise JK was the match winner yesterday with his skillz and cross.

Let's see it right shall we Russel!

And he does for all his faults get assists as well as great  goals and number of goals ! So we all love him for that !
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Post by: footyskillz on September 07, 2018, 06:22:08 PM
Apparently played and started  for Ireland last night .
I say that having watched he was pretty annoyomous or was giving ball away. Really garbage and so ineffective when he was subbed so low key wasn't even shown by sky sports him being hauled off

Of course his replacement scored showing this guy up even more
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Post by: Matt Collins on September 11, 2018, 07:54:54 PM
There's no way he's international class

Butat the  moment there's an argument we could do with his goal threat
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Post by: Mossie Hennebry on September 11, 2018, 09:19:30 PM
Con is on 73'. Southern Ireland leading the Poland 0-1. Chip in with a goal lad!
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Post by: Duncan Shaw on September 17, 2018, 12:11:42 PM
Well proved his value again - he scores goals, to me he is very important to us.
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Post by: sirlordbaltimore on September 17, 2018, 12:14:29 PM
Well proved his value again - he scores goals, to me he is very important to us.

I agree, but as a midfielder he must do a lot more. We shouldn't be even looking at him to score vital goals with the other attacking options we have. I like Conor, but he goes missing for HUGE chunks of games. He's got to do more and be more visible on the pitch to warrant starts for me.

For example, you know McGinn is on the pitch, whether he's playing well or not he's there, he's not hiding or invisible.
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Post by: Richard on September 17, 2018, 12:15:26 PM
I'd start him tomorrow no need for Jedi
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Post by: aj2k77 on September 17, 2018, 12:21:29 PM
There's no need for Jedinak in any game in this division, not when you play 2 wide players who are asked to focus on defensive duties as well and only 1 striker.
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Post by: tomd2103 on September 17, 2018, 12:37:34 PM
Well proved his value again - he scores goals, to me he is very important to us.

I agree, but as a midfielder he must do a lot more. We shouldn't be even looking at him to score vital goals with the other attacking options we have. I like Conor, but he goes missing for HUGE chunks of games. He's got to do more and be more visible on the pitch to warrant starts for me.

For example, you know McGinn is on the pitch, whether he's playing well or not he's there, he's not hiding or invisible.

Agree and he seems to make more of an impact coming off the bench in games.  That said, I thought him and McGinn looked OK when they were paired together in the latter stages of the game at the weekend. 
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Post by: footyskillz on September 21, 2018, 05:06:42 PM
Anyone know or recall Houirhane position and villa formation when he scored his hat trick at home v Norwich last season?

Bruce spoke of him in his new position with Mcginn in midfield that Connor has been knocking on his door every 2 days .

Does tomorrow see him fall back again and be annoyomous outplayed by Bannan or does he step up with Mcginn

I guess Bruce will play team that played v Rotherham.

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Post by: Matt Collins on September 22, 2018, 06:58:07 AM
Norwich was the first time we played 4141.

But I still think his position is deeper as part of a two (not the single DM tho). He can still be a goal threat, but you're not relying on him being a play maker. He's not that kind of player in my view. He's not good enough in tight situations
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Post by: footyskillz on October 03, 2018, 10:50:09 AM
The way he gives ball away with his passing yesterday is opposite with some of his strikes . Wildy inaccurate and lofty balls over the top to front players at 10 which never reached the front .

Doesn't drive with the ball and his tendency to pass back and be annoymous in matches is very puzzling and annoying .

He also should have been taken off a lot sooner as he struggles far more than mcginn to close down and tackle appropriately.
Though mcginn was the one who did the careless foul for the free kick which Gallagher scored from.
Whelan could have been the screen in front of back four and kodjia wide with Abrahams left up front

I actually think he decent player to some degree with a super shot and assist play realtively well mainly from dead ball.

Too often he struggles to make an impact over the 90
He's not alone and I feel Bruce has partly stagnated the guys play and partly the player isn't top level so doesn't have the authority and dynamism on a consistent basis.

That said he sure strikes a great shot and similar to Grealish and maybe other players he's struggling on how Bruce wants him to play and fit into system.



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Post by: footyskillz on October 04, 2018, 09:08:47 PM
Called up to the Ireland squad v Denmark and Wales
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Post by: kieron on October 04, 2018, 09:45:20 PM
Ok
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Post by: Sexual Ealing on October 04, 2018, 09:46:39 PM
Ok

You're kinda hoist by your own petard here.
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Post by: themossman on December 02, 2018, 09:28:12 AM
Praise where itís due, he was really good yesterday I thought - instrumental to our pressing and hassling game when they had the ball, more bite than usual and got an assist. I take full credit for saying he added nothing in the match thread.
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Post by: footyskillz on December 03, 2018, 06:04:16 PM
Played his role better but I can't help thinking as hugill was in isolation up top for large part of match his job was easier.

Howson, Clayton didn't show any ambition to press and Besic who is excellent at this level wasn't at it and subbed.

That said he dropped in between Tuanzebe and Chester when needed and fulfilled his duites mainly playing short to mid range passes.

I still like him to be more pro active and
appear dominant in his play on the ball .
More forward passing , more decisiveness, and far quicker moving the ball.


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Post by: eamonn on December 03, 2018, 09:52:46 PM
In the latest ''Team Mates'' video on AVTV, one of the more amusing Pravda features which I believe FootySkillz is a fan of (where two players are asked to write down the answers to questions on which of their team-mates is the hardest/funniest etc.) the Russian said that Conor was the hardest trainer in the squad - maybe he's now taking-in Deano's instructions.
The feature also starred our other hotshot young-gun Keinan Davis, I could barely make-out what he was mumling but he did have the best quip of the vid when asked who was the worst-dressed. He went for ''Albert...it's not my cup of...style''.
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Post by: Matt Collins on December 03, 2018, 10:05:24 PM
Was excellent at Boro

I agree with the above though. Play him against a fluid midfield or really good number 10 and I'd still be worried. Although the problem against forest was also about grealish and mcginn

Harvey Barnes will be more of a threat on Friday
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Post by: ChicagoLion on December 04, 2018, 04:13:47 AM
He was ok because no one ran at him, I think you will find his tackle count was pretty close to zero.
Does not do enough defensively or offensively.
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Post by: Olof's Beard on December 04, 2018, 09:04:12 AM
He is also joint top for assists in the league despite being in and out of the side and always chips in with goals. He might not be spectacular but is efficient, I can understand why Deano plays him.
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Post by: Matt Collins on December 04, 2018, 10:15:01 AM
He was ok because no one ran at him, I think you will find his tackle count was pretty close to zero.
Does not do enough defensively or offensively.

In that deep role hes Great offensively. Keeps the ball moving quickly, and a threat from set pieces. He doesn't get crowded out like he can when higher up the pitch in tighter situations.

But it's the defensive side I worry about

They were just running through him against forest. Everyone slammed tuanzebe but he was left sooo exposed
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Post by: footyskillz on December 04, 2018, 09:40:32 PM
How the heck will he stop Matt Phillips?

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Post by: OCD on December 04, 2018, 10:23:22 PM
The gap between the defence and midfield was too big against Forest and the anchor role is meant to be the bridge between defence and midfield. He didn't do a good enough job of protecting the defence against Forest. Didn't seem to have a problem against Derby or Boro though.
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Post by: ChicagoLion on December 05, 2018, 04:42:26 AM
How the heck will he stop Matt Phillips?
He wonít because he can not tackle, close space or intercept.
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Post by: Steve67 on December 05, 2018, 06:38:12 PM
How the heck will he stop Matt Phillips?
He wonít because he can not tackle, close space or intercept.

And they play in very different parts of the pitch.
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Post by: TheMalandro on December 05, 2018, 08:04:56 PM
Scores goals, creates goals and is a good professional.
A weird one, Iím still not sure heís a good fit for the team.

In Smith we trust.
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Post by: footyskillz on December 06, 2018, 12:29:43 AM
How the heck will he stop Matt Phillips?
He wonít because he can not tackle, close space or intercept.

And they play in very different parts of the pitch.

Matty Phillips has been moved into middle and plays central or at least was in the Brentford and commentary were saying he's moved into that position with effect . Certainly did play well first half.
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Post by: XXVilla on December 06, 2018, 09:16:43 PM
How the heck will he stop Matt Phillips?
He wonít because he can not tackle, close space or intercept.

And they play in very different parts of the pitch.

Matty Phillips has been moved into middle and plays central or at least was in the Brentford and commentary were saying he's moved into that position with effect . Certainly did play well first half.

And yet they only scored once.
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Post by: Matt Collins on December 07, 2018, 06:15:18 AM
I agree Phillips running past hourihane, and Harvey Barnes cutting in and getting straight onto our back four, seem the main risks

West Brom should have been four up at half time. They just didn't finish their chances

I don't think the midfield problem was all hourihane. Grealish and mcginn were pushed right up, and it didn't help that our defence kept giving the ball away when we were pushed up the pitch

But I agree Boro away didn't test us in the same way. I'm hoping they've been focusing on how we condense the space much better
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Post by: Ads on December 07, 2018, 06:57:51 AM
They weren't given the chance because of our wingers on and off the ball.
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Post by: Colhint on December 07, 2018, 05:02:40 PM
I feel a bit sorry for Conor, he's hit some cracking free kicks, but the way things are going he won't make the top 10 for goal of the season for us.
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Post by: LeeB on December 07, 2018, 06:02:39 PM
I feel a bit sorry for Conor, he's hit some cracking free kicks, but the way things are going he won't make the top 10 for goal of the season for us.

He'll struggle to make the top 100 at this rate.
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Post by: Matt Collins on December 07, 2018, 06:35:52 PM
They weren't given the chance because of our wingers on and off the ball.

Their midfielders just didn't have the creativity or fluidity that lolley and carvalho had
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Post by: Matt Collins on December 09, 2018, 07:04:46 AM
That threat didn't really happen

He's really growing in me in that deep role.

If jack is injured it will be interesting to see what Smith does. The obvious option is to move hourihane forwards and play Whelan deep. But hourihane doesn't offer anything like what jack offers. I wouldn't say he was great v WBA but if you watch the highlights jack is involved in so much of what we do going forwards with his running and passing ability

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Post by: Mister E on December 09, 2018, 05:34:54 PM

If jack is injured it will be interesting to see what Smith does. The obvious option is to move hourihane forwards and play Whelan deep. But hourihane doesn't offer anything like what jack offers. I wouldn't say he was great v WBA but if you watch the highlights jack is involved in so much of what we do going forwards with his running and passing ability
The obvious option to me would be to play a like-for-like replacement - O'Hare. May not happen, of course, because he has had such little gametime, but he's the obvious replacement.
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Post by: tomd2103 on December 09, 2018, 07:07:57 PM
That threat didn't really happen

He's really growing in me in that deep role.

If jack is injured it will be interesting to see what Smith does. The obvious option is to move hourihane forwards and play Whelan deep. But hourihane doesn't offer anything like what jack offers. I wouldn't say he was great v WBA but if you watch the highlights jack is involved in so much of what we do going forwards with his running and passing ability

My concern with him has always been how he seems to drift out of the game for such long periods, almost to the point that you forget he is playing at times.  I think the defensive midfielder has to be constantly involved in the game, whether it be breaking play up in the defensive areas or dictating play when in possession.
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Post by: ChicagoLion on December 09, 2018, 07:15:17 PM
He is no where good enough in the defensive midfield role, he canít tackle, does not close down space and is not involved enough.
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Post by: Ads on December 09, 2018, 07:29:05 PM
Past two games he's played well.

Albion got joy out of a long ball and managed to get 1 on 1 with our full backs a couple of times, but nothing came through the middle. Fair play to for picking it up post Forest.
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Post by: Steve67 on December 09, 2018, 08:47:36 PM
He lacks pace and physicality to play the DCM role over the course of a season.  in my opinion, if we want to get promoted this season, we need an upgrade on Hourihane.  Good player though he is, I personally don't think that his role is a DCM.
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Post by: Matt Collins on December 09, 2018, 11:59:46 PM
He is no where good enough in the defensive midfield role, he canít tackle, does not close down space and is not involved enough.

I think he made About 90 passes in one of them
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Post by: Matt Collins on December 10, 2018, 12:00:56 AM

If jack is injured it will be interesting to see what Smith does. The obvious option is to move hourihane forwards and play Whelan deep. But hourihane doesn't offer anything like what jack offers. I wouldn't say he was great v WBA but if you watch the highlights jack is involved in so much of what we do going forwards with his running and passing ability
The obvious option to me would be to play a like-for-like replacement - O'Hare. May not happen, of course, because he has had such little gametime, but he's the obvious replacement.

I see O'Hare as a number 10 or striker

Not sure I've ever seen him play in the sort of 8 position grealish and mcginn are playing in?
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Post by: tomd2103 on December 10, 2018, 12:06:59 AM

If jack is injured it will be interesting to see what Smith does. The obvious option is to move hourihane forwards and play Whelan deep. But hourihane doesn't offer anything like what jack offers. I wouldn't say he was great v WBA but if you watch the highlights jack is involved in so much of what we do going forwards with his running and passing ability
The obvious option to me would be to play a like-for-like replacement - O'Hare. May not happen, of course, because he has had such little gametime, but he's the obvious replacement.

I see O'Hare as a number 10 or striker

Not sure I've ever seen him play in the sort of 8 position grealish and mcginn are playing in?

Agree Matt and I have seen him play wide as well.  As Jack Grealish found, the obvious problem with being a 'number 10' is that you have got to be at a club that plays that kind of system.  If you are not, then you aren't really going to get many chances.  Grealish has now become a midfielder who could play 'number 10' if needed and it has kick started his career.  I have wondered whether O'Hare needs to make a similar move to have more chance of getting into the side.

I really like what I have seen of him so far though. 
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Post by: eamonn on December 10, 2018, 12:42:48 AM
Gary Gardner could play the role we want Hourihane to fulfil, no?
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Post by: Drummond on December 11, 2018, 01:42:58 PM
Gary Gardner could play the role we want Hourihane to fulfil, no?

You're right. No.
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Post by: ajmant on December 11, 2018, 01:46:48 PM
I'll second that. No way. Gary Gardner is the answer for yesteryear. Time to move on if we want to move up. 
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Post by: LeeB on December 11, 2018, 07:29:31 PM
The only question Gary Gardner is the answer too is:

Which of the footballing Gardner brothers is not a shithouse weasel with all the charm of a pidgeon shit covered gargoyle?
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Post by: PeterWithesShin on December 26, 2018, 07:58:28 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DvXN50oWsAEBeP-.jpg)
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Post by: garyshawsknee on December 26, 2018, 08:12:51 PM
Can't argue with those stats.
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Post by: The_ads on December 26, 2018, 08:52:33 PM
Gary Gardner is limited. We all know this.
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Post by: XXVilla on December 26, 2018, 09:08:32 PM
I'll second that. No way. Gary Gardner is the answer for yesteryear. Time to move on if we want to move up.

Does our bench/treatment table still need warming up?
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Post by: brontebilly on December 26, 2018, 09:19:22 PM
Can't argue with those stats.

Despite all the criticism, a lot of it valid, he still delivers a serious amount of goals and assists.
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Post by: eamonn on December 26, 2018, 10:03:18 PM
Can't argue with those stats.

Meaning in 12 games out of 23 he's been invisible ;)
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Post by: Abbeyfealeavfc on December 26, 2018, 10:21:31 PM
An interesting interpretation of stats. So Jack Grealish has been invisible in 15 of his 21 games having only 2 goals and 4 assists and John McGinn has been invisible in 14 of his 21 games having 2 goals and 5 assists?
I'd sooner celebrate the 9 goals and 15 assists that Conor, Jack and John have between them. UTV and merry xmas!
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Post by: eamonn on December 26, 2018, 10:42:32 PM
My comment was slightly tongue in cheek, my point was that Jack and John do a lot more during games than Conor does. He has a golden knack of goals and set pieces, it's just a shame he goes missing too often outside of that.
His hurling team probably knocked Abbeyfeale out of some intermediate tournament once, don't worry, Conor can defend himself.
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Post by: footyskillz on January 02, 2019, 02:24:34 PM
Whilst Taylor is out and for balance Conor could play the left back role.
Doesn't have heaps of pace but can keep it tidy in the left and also play a decent cross in from that side

It's an idea to be explored
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Post by: Matt Collins on January 02, 2019, 02:27:08 PM
It really isn't
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Post by: footyskillz on January 02, 2019, 02:46:19 PM
Well he's no great midfielder so why not re develop him into a left back.
His one problem would be pace
But I bet he be more involved than when he is centrally.

It's more a balance and not ideal by a long way it's more for the occasion .
He would be facing El Ghazhi , Bolasie , Adomah 3 best wide players in league in training so he would be ok.

The other place is behind striker as one of two number 10/ 8
But for me that should be someone with more cunning and guile.

Delph and Young have been and become full backs on left think Hourihane could be adequate there.

I could compare him to Holebas of Watford as he takes set plays but play left back .

Bielsa would try him in a back 2 or 3 as centre back !
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Post by: LukeJames on January 02, 2019, 02:51:47 PM
Whilst Taylor is out and for balance Conor could play the left back role.

How much did you consume over New Year mate?
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Post by: sirlordbaltimore on January 02, 2019, 02:52:50 PM
Whilst Taylor is out and for balance Conor could play the left back role.
Doesn't have heaps of pace but can keep it tidy in the left and also play a decent cross in from that side

It's an idea to be explored

Shudder.
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Post by: ChicagoLion on January 02, 2019, 02:53:56 PM
Well he's no great midfielder so why not re develop him into a left back.

Because he can not tackle, close down, run fast or do anything remotely defensive.
Other than that
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Post by: robleflaneur on January 02, 2019, 02:57:32 PM
Doesn't do well shielding the defence,lacks pace and lightweight in the tackle.Not ideal for a FB.
Would like to see him in a no.10 role until Jack returns.It would give him more goal scoring opportunities and he must be one of the best finishers that we have.Passing wise it is easier for him playing deep but he offers little defensive protection and I would be inclined to play McGinn or Barney in that role.
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Post by: andyh on January 02, 2019, 02:57:50 PM
Well he's no great midfielder so why not re develop him into a left back.

Because he can not tackle, close down, run fast or do anything remotely defensive.
Other than that
Correct.
Also, he canít tackle, he canít tackle and he canít tackle.
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Post by: footyskillz on January 02, 2019, 03:00:24 PM
Well neither does Neil Taylor!

Hourihane would be less our of the central role but could provide from left.

I feel Smith sees him as someone in this current squad he wants on the ball and passing it.
The central lying deep midfielder mixes with some attacking intention

The man hasn't got the movement in the middle but on left would only have to go to up and down
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: JUAN PABLO on January 02, 2019, 03:02:15 PM
Hourihane is a stats man which is great with someone like Jack besides him , Since Jack has been out the team , Hourihane has looked poor.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: JUAN PABLO on January 02, 2019, 03:03:25 PM
oh and I couldnt understand why DS played him CM instead of BB yesterday.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Matt Collins on January 02, 2019, 03:07:01 PM
I thought hourihane started the deeper but then they switched?

It didn't really work either way
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: JUAN PABLO on January 02, 2019, 03:07:51 PM
I thought hourihane started the deeper but then they switched?

It didn't really work either way

I meant DM   but yes they were both crap .. but at least BB can tackle even if he does tackle himself after
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: robleflaneur on January 02, 2019, 03:19:59 PM
Well neither does Neil Taylor!

Hourihane would be less our of the central role but could provide from left.

I feel Smith sees him as someone in this current squad he wants on the ball and passing it.
The central lying deep midfielder mixes with some attacking intention

The man hasn't got the movement in the middle but on left would only have to go to up and down
The advantage with a technical CM is that they are always in a good position to receive the ball from the back 4 and can then quickly  set up attacks through the midfield. The best example being Pirlo. We tried to play Bannan in that role.The problem is the lack of protection a Bannan or Hourihane gives a defence,it has to come from other players.
Putting Bannan or likewise Hourihane wide,makes the situation worse.It makes it more difficult for them to receive the ball without being closely marked,they lack the pace to escape down the touchline and also limits their passing options by narrowing their field of play.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: footyskillz on January 02, 2019, 03:27:50 PM
Well neither does Neil Taylor!

Hourihane would be less our of the central role but could provide from left.

I feel Smith sees him as someone in this current squad he wants on the ball and passing it.
The central lying deep midfielder mixes with some attacking intention

The man hasn't got the movement in the middle but on left would only have to go to up and down
The advantage with a technical CM is that they are always in a good position to receive the ball from the back 4 and can then quickly  set up attacks through the midfield. The best example being Pirlo. We tried to play Bannan in that role.The problem is the lack of protection a Bannan or Hourihane gives a defence,it has to come from other players.
Putting Bannan or likewise Hourihane wide,makes the situation worse.It makes it more difficult for them to receive the ball without being closely marked,they lack the pace to escape down the touchline and also limits their passing options by narrowing their field of play.

Ah thats well put and I can vision this left back role being entirely unsuited more than people just saying "he can't do this or that " you have articulated with some know how and I can totally see he be caught in possession in such a role and very limited.
 
Really helped talking of Pirlo , and currently I thinking of Jorginho of chelsea

This style of midfielder is wanted at smithy villa .

The Conor as left back that idea can go to the recycling
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: footyskillz on January 02, 2019, 03:33:11 PM
Some thing notice on mcginn as how adept he is of getting out of tight spaces with players round him.
Really is impressive

Something else Ghazhi , Kodjia and Bolasie do too.
Good footyskillz!

I don't see Hourihane being able to do that but the guy can certainly strike a good shot and occasion set play !
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Ad@m on January 02, 2019, 03:54:05 PM
Well neither does Neil Taylor!

Benchmarking anyone against Neil Taylor isn't a great way to win an argument!
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Matt Collins on January 02, 2019, 04:00:27 PM
Some thing notice on mcginn as how adept he is of getting out of tight spaces with players round him.
Really is impressive

Something else Ghazhi , Kodjia and Bolasie do too.
Good footyskillz!

I don't see Hourihane being able to do that but the guy can certainly strike a good shot and occasion set play !

Completely agree. This is why he isn't the long term answer as an attacking midfielder
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Dazvillain on January 04, 2019, 11:04:40 PM
Stats pinched from another site.... CH played in most games in 2018...49
CH involved in most goals 17...11 scored and 6 assists

Well done Sir
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Matt Collins on January 05, 2019, 12:05:10 AM
Great productivity. That's why it's so hard to leave him out

Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: manic-road on January 05, 2019, 10:29:31 AM
Hourihane is a stats man which is great with someone like Jack besides him , Since Jack has been out the team , Hourihane has looked poor.

The team has looked poorer since Jack has been out injured.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: GarTomas on January 19, 2019, 05:17:02 PM
Exceptionally awful today. Whelan is an awesome upgrade on him as at least he shows for the ball.

A central midfielder who can't run, tackle, press or pass.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Three Spires Villa on January 19, 2019, 05:19:06 PM
Hourihane has looked very poor, problem is so is Whelan
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: SheffieldVillain on January 19, 2019, 05:20:59 PM
Hourihane has looked very poor, problem is so is Whelan

And Jedinak. And Bjarnesson. And Lansbury.

Six options in centre-midfield, and five of them are useless.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Axl Rose on January 19, 2019, 05:23:13 PM
Exceptionally awful today. Whelan is an awesome upgrade on him as at least he shows for the ball.

A central midfielder who can't run, tackle, press or pass.

An awesome upgrade?

Come on mate. I'm no fan of Hourihane, but using awesome to describe Whelan in any shape or form is just slightly bewildering.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: brontebilly on January 19, 2019, 05:23:21 PM
weaker than piss water in the challenge,
unable to kick the ball with his right foot
taking a throw in in the right corner that led to a Hull chance
runs like he is in treacle
tactically hasnt a clue where to position himself

absymal today and Bjarnsson even worse!
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: GarTomas on January 19, 2019, 05:23:22 PM
Hindsight is wonderful but getting Smith in the summer would of meant Ryan Woods following him here.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: garyshawsknee on January 19, 2019, 05:24:26 PM
Really wanted Bjarnesson to work out, but he's just no good, ditto Lansbury. Whats happened to Jedi ?
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: wittonwarrior on January 19, 2019, 05:25:09 PM
Poorer by the week and he was never that good to begin with
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: CT Villan on January 19, 2019, 05:26:56 PM
It is official...

Conor Hourihane could not crush a grape or rip a tissue...and most definitely could not jump off a doll's house !

Needs to play higher up the pitch or be dropped completely. I'd rather see an U23 get some experience than have to see him lose the ball and flop to ground with his arms in the air appealing for a fantasy free-kick.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: JUAN PABLO on January 19, 2019, 05:28:54 PM
He strolls around like he thinks he is better than he actually is , a bit of arrogance which is fine is you are a  really good footballer.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: ChicagoLion on January 19, 2019, 05:29:44 PM
This is where Smith deserves criticism, why does he keep starting him?
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: GarTomas on January 19, 2019, 05:30:27 PM
He strolls around like he thinks he is better than he actually is , a bit of arrogance which is fine is you are a  really good footballer.

You've managed to sum him up perfectly there. When he had a go at McGinn for shooting at about 80ish minutes instead of passing to him. Thankfully McGinn seemed to have enough about it to tell him to do one.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Matt Collins on January 19, 2019, 05:48:42 PM
This is where Smith deserves criticism, why does he keep starting him?

Smith really likes 433

Who else should be playing at the momentin that system?
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: garyshawsknee on January 19, 2019, 05:50:36 PM
This is where Smith deserves criticism, why does he keep starting him?

Gotta be a lack of options. He did work quite well with Jack and McGinn, though that seems like a life time away.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: tomd2103 on January 19, 2019, 06:04:01 PM
Became apparent last season that he wasn't quite good enough and would probably be better utilised as an impact sub.  Thought he was poor today and got caught in possession too many times.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: achilles on January 19, 2019, 07:35:22 PM
He just can't tackle which is pretty fundamental for a midfield player (or footballer for that matter)!
Don't get me started on the number of times he ends up on his backside waving his arms about for a free kick instead of getting on with the game!
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: sirlordbaltimore on January 19, 2019, 08:17:07 PM


Woeful. AGAIN
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Loxton01 on January 19, 2019, 08:39:22 PM
I gave him a 1 today for the assist. He is totally woeful. He is not a defensive midfielder

He gets slower and slower he cannot tackle and simply cannot cover the ground.

He is simply not good enough he reminds me of Alan Thompson another one who thought he was better than what he was waving his arms about.

He is crap
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: CT on January 19, 2019, 08:42:18 PM
I gave him a 1 today for the assist. He is totally woeful. He is not a defensive midfielder

He gets slower and slower he cannot tackle and simply cannot cover the ground.

He is simply not good enough he reminds me of Alan Thompson another one who thought he was better than what he was waving his arms about.

He is crap

I think 1 is fairly generous Loxton! Absolutely abysmal. Only Bolasie was worse for me.

No doubt he'll pop up with a good free kick in the next few weeks to remind us how good he is before hibernating for the next six weeks.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Steve67 on January 19, 2019, 08:43:31 PM
If he is not scoring goals, he is adding nothing to the team.  He isn't a great tackler, passer or a physical presence.  Big fish in a small pond at Barnsley, scored a few playing further forward under Bruce last season but utterly out of his depth with this coaching team.  If we could swap him for someone, I'd be more than happy with that outcome.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: CT on January 19, 2019, 08:50:13 PM
If he is not scoring goals, he is adding nothing to the team.  He isn't a great tackler, passer or a physical presence.  Big fish in a small pond at Barnsley, scored a few playing further forward under Bruce last season but utterly out of his depth with this coaching team.  If we could swap him for someone, I'd be more than happy with that outcome.

I'd swap him for more half time catering staff.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Steve67 on January 19, 2019, 08:53:23 PM
If he is not scoring goals, he is adding nothing to the team.  He isn't a great tackler, passer or a physical presence.  Big fish in a small pond at Barnsley, scored a few playing further forward under Bruce last season but utterly out of his depth with this coaching team.  If we could swap him for someone, I'd be more than happy with that outcome.

I'd swap him for more half time catering staff.

Deal!!
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Abbeyfealeavfc on January 19, 2019, 09:18:50 PM
Another great assist by Conor, well done. Much better 2nd half showing, when pushing forward. A dm he's not and I doubt he's choosing to play that position. Woeful was bolassie and barny! What an attempted header by barny in the 2nd half when in the 6 yard box. It was easier to score yet it ended up going towards the centre circle. What did bolassie do in the 60+ minutes he was on the pitch?
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: The_ads on January 19, 2019, 09:43:26 PM
The Alan Thompson analogy is spot on. Heís dreadful
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: frank black on January 19, 2019, 09:46:18 PM
Canít afford to carry him around in games. Heís always going to create/score and heís always going to allow the opponents to create/score.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: PeterWithe on January 19, 2019, 09:47:04 PM
Iím not a fan
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: garyshawsknee on January 19, 2019, 09:54:02 PM
When he was playing in a 3 with Jack and McGinn he wasn't looking as exposed because we kept the ball better, now when things are getting tough, he's the last guy you want to drag us out of it, far too slow and lightweight. I count it as 5 midfielders I'd happily move on.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Pvb1968 on January 19, 2019, 11:10:46 PM
He is a passenger in our midfield, yet another 5 grand a week player who we chose to pay at least 5 times that amount, one day we will have a team that are worth there ridiculous wage packet.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: tony scott on January 19, 2019, 11:19:03 PM
Heís not a Dm he canít tackle ,he has to play further forward to be useful to the team.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Des Little on January 19, 2019, 11:30:39 PM
Heís weak as piss, scores once in a blue moon and is dreadful at holding the midfield. Other than that, heís great.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Roysmert on January 19, 2019, 11:34:38 PM
Heís poor.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: pauliewalnuts on January 19, 2019, 11:56:56 PM
He was fucking awful today. Awful.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Roysmert on January 20, 2019, 12:53:39 AM
Yup, pony.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: aj2k77 on January 20, 2019, 10:00:51 AM
Sell in the Summer, recoup some money, don't let his contract dwindle down and go for nothing.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Clampy on January 20, 2019, 10:02:59 AM
I can understand people's frustration with him but I don't mind him. He's made a contribution since he's been here, it's not been all bad.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: ChicagoLion on January 20, 2019, 10:17:13 AM
A passenger who rarely has a good game and occasionaly makes a contribution.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Clampy on January 20, 2019, 10:22:17 AM
He goes missing in games a bit too often but I'd say 4 goals and 7 assists this season (including yesterday) is not too bad a contribution.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: eamonn on January 20, 2019, 10:30:46 AM
Another great assist by Conor, well done. Much better 2nd half showing, when pushing forward. A dm he's not and I doubt he's choosing to play that position. Woeful was bolassie and barny! What an attempted header by barny in the 2nd half when in the 6 yard box. It was easier to score yet it ended up going towards the centre circle. What did bolassie do in the 60+ minutes he was on the pitch?

Why do you not see Hourihane's weaknesses, is it an Up-Munster! thing?
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Steve67 on January 20, 2019, 11:18:10 AM
He goes missing in games a bit too often but I'd say 4 goals and 7 assists this season (including yesterday) is not too bad a contribution.

Hopefully, other managers are looking at the same stats and are thinking of buying him.  I am happy to provide the transport.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Matt Collins on January 20, 2019, 11:34:25 AM
There's a reason why with consistently great productivity, he never seems to be linked with a move.

His general play is pretty mediocre
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: VinnieChase84 on January 20, 2019, 11:57:48 AM
Hopefully Brighton still want him come the summer
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: ChicagoLion on January 20, 2019, 12:38:07 PM
He goes missing in games a bit too often but I'd say 4 goals and 7 assists this season (including yesterday) is not too bad a contribution.
If assists and goals were his only responsibility to the team then those stats are no where near good enough.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: tomd2103 on January 20, 2019, 01:17:49 PM
Became apparent last season that we needed to replace him in the starting XI and to be fair McGinn was brought in.  He has done well coming off the bench in games before and that is how I would use him.  Don't mind the guy at all and can't imagine him being a problem in the dressing room, but we need better if we are going to move forward. 
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Abbeyfealeavfc on January 20, 2019, 01:37:59 PM
Eamonn, I think I highlighted a weakness in my last post, he's not a dm. It's very difficult to pinpoint the failings of a team of 11 players down to one individual. Without his assist yesterday we'd have lost that game! There are other games where his goals and assists have gained us results. He is contributing and certainly more so than the likes of barny and bolasie.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Clampy on January 20, 2019, 01:45:03 PM
He goes missing in games a bit too often but I'd say 4 goals and 7 assists this season (including yesterday) is not too bad a contribution.
If assists and goals were his only responsibility to the team then those stats are no where near good enough.


He's also chipped in with goals in previous seasons. He's not perfect but he's far from one of the worst.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: brian green on January 20, 2019, 01:52:32 PM
He does have one or two redeeming features while several others on the starting team sheet have none.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on January 20, 2019, 04:44:22 PM
Indeed. One thing really annoyed me watching him yesterday was his unwillingness to receive the ball, whether it be from throw-ins or when the defence bring the ball out, he never looks to make himself available. He has a talent of finding an opposition player to hide behind.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Nii Lamptey on January 20, 2019, 05:33:35 PM
I've been saying this for the last couple of seasons - Hourihane is a liability, especially in our current plight.

Until we have a defence that can defend, and a decent defensive midfielder that can mop up the scraps, we need our midfielders to mark/block/tackle to help take some of the pressure off the backline. Hourihane does NOTHING in this regard, his work ethic is abysmal. It's all very well highlighting his goals and assists, but what the stats DON'T tell us is how many opposition players he's left unmarked or players that have ghosted past him and gone on to assist or score goals against us.

IMO, all that he's going to succeed in doing is 'breaking' McGinn, as that poor bloke is having to run around the pitch for 2-3 players every game.   }:[

Flatters to deceive.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: andyh on January 20, 2019, 05:37:39 PM
As I said before my overriding image of Hourihane is him lying sprawled on the floor, arms wide open staring at the ref, pleading for a non existent free kick.

I think it was about 8 minutes into yesterdayís when he did it again.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: paul_e on January 20, 2019, 08:56:28 PM
Indeed. One thing really annoyed me watching him yesterday was his unwillingness to receive the ball, whether it be from throw-ins or when the defence bring the ball out, he never looks to make himself available. He has a talent of finding an opposition player to hide behind.

I'd take it a bit further that, he generally isn't interested in pkaying in his own half. He's a very different player once we get to their box.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: PaulWinch again on January 20, 2019, 09:00:35 PM
Heís useful as an impact player if we need a goal. Heís not a midfielder who can do the defensive side of the game.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on January 20, 2019, 09:02:12 PM
Indeed. One thing really annoyed me watching him yesterday was his unwillingness to receive the ball, whether it be from throw-ins or when the defence bring the ball out, he never looks to make himself available. He has a talent of finding an opposition player to hide behind.

I'd take it a bit further that, he generally isn't interested in pkaying in his own half. He's a very different player once we get to their box.

Totally. Over the last month I seen Whelan in more advanced positions. What that was about I have no idea. Right now I'd appreciate a bit of positional discipline where everybody knows their role. It's all very freestyle and just like the jazz version, it stinks!
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Sexual Ealing on January 20, 2019, 09:36:26 PM
I've been saying this for the last couple of seasons - Hourihane is a liability, especially in our current plight.

Until we have a defence that can defend, and a decent defensive midfielder that can mop up the scraps, we need our midfielders to mark/block/tackle to help take some of the pressure off the backline. Hourihane does NOTHING in this regard, his work ethic is abysmal. It's all very well highlighting his goals and assists, but what the stats DON'T tell us is how many opposition players he's left unmarked or players that have ghosted past him and gone on to assist or score goals against us.

IMO, all that he's going to succeed in doing is 'breaking' McGinn, as that poor bloke is having to run around the pitch for 2-3 players every game.   }:[

Flatters to deceive.

I used to think broadly similar things about Frank Lampard as a player (I'm not suggesting that CH is in the same class). Whenever I verbalised this opinion I was met with incredulity. I don't know what point I'm making but at least I've had my say now.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: VILLA MOLE on January 20, 2019, 09:51:07 PM
I've been saying this for the last couple of seasons - Hourihane is a liability, especially in our current plight.

Until we have a defence that can defend, and a decent defensive midfielder that can mop up the scraps, we need our midfielders to mark/block/tackle to help take some of the pressure off the backline. Hourihane does NOTHING in this regard, his work ethic is abysmal. It's all very well highlighting his goals and assists, but what the stats DON'T tell us is how many opposition players he's left unmarked or players that have ghosted past him and gone on to assist or score goals against us.

IMO, all that he's going to succeed in doing is 'breaking' McGinn, as that poor bloke is having to run around the pitch for 2-3 players every game.   }:[

Flatters to deceive.

I used to think broadly similar things about Frank Lampard as a player (I'm not suggesting that CH is in the same class). Whenever I verbalised this opinion I was met with incredulity. I don't know what point I'm making but at least I've had my say now.


I can see the similarity in style , but he doesn't have the strength or power as Fat Frank
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: achilles on January 20, 2019, 11:31:28 PM
I wish he would stop taking these quick free kicks, where all he does is pass it sideways or backwards five yards at best.
Take a bit of time over them and pass forward, not rocket science!
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: paul_e on January 21, 2019, 12:50:18 AM
I've been saying this for the last couple of seasons - Hourihane is a liability, especially in our current plight.

Until we have a defence that can defend, and a decent defensive midfielder that can mop up the scraps, we need our midfielders to mark/block/tackle to help take some of the pressure off the backline. Hourihane does NOTHING in this regard, his work ethic is abysmal. It's all very well highlighting his goals and assists, but what the stats DON'T tell us is how many opposition players he's left unmarked or players that have ghosted past him and gone on to assist or score goals against us.

IMO, all that he's going to succeed in doing is 'breaking' McGinn, as that poor bloke is having to run around the pitch for 2-3 players every game.   }:[

Flatters to deceive.

I used to think broadly similar things about Frank Lampard as a player (I'm not suggesting that CH is in the same class). Whenever I verbalised this opinion I was met with incredulity. I don't know what point I'm making but at least I've had my say now.

I can see the similarity in style , but he doesn't have the strength or power as Fat Frank

More importantly Lampard scored about 1 in 3 over his career, making him as productive as almost any 2nd striker around and he played most of his career in teams that were built to have a shielding midfielder and a deep playmaker behind him so he could press defenders high up up the pitch and not have to get into his own box all that often. If Hourihane was the cover for Grealish and got into the box more consistently then he'd be a decent squad player but as is the midfield just isn't setup for someone who offers so little in his own half.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: adrenachrome on January 21, 2019, 01:31:40 AM
Indeed. One thing really annoyed me watching him yesterday was his unwillingness to receive the ball, whether it be from throw-ins or when the defence bring the ball out, he never looks to make himself available. He has a talent of finding an opposition player to hide behind.

I'd take it a bit further that, he generally isn't interested in pkaying in his own half. He's a very different player once we get to their box.

Totally. Over the last month I seen Whelan in more advanced positions. What that was about I have no idea. Right now I'd appreciate a bit of positional discipline where everybody knows their role. It's all very freestyle and just like the jazz version, it stinks!

No half decent jazz outfit starts with the riffing in the absence of a solid rhythm section groove.

Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: footyskillz on January 21, 2019, 10:00:37 PM
Heís useful as an impact player if we need a goal. Heís not a midfielder who can do the defensive side of the game.

Yes if he didn't score goals he would be an avearge player with a left foot.

Really struggles at this level in many respects.
Unable to impose himself, can't dominate anything and severely lacking in pace.

He's at an age now where he's peaked and I don't see him getting much better.
He'd be totally and utterly lost in premier league and that's with the quality going down.

Suited to Scottish football of rangers  or Celtic and excell against limited opposition.



Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: ChicagoLion on February 13, 2019, 10:22:00 PM
Another classic performance from the Hologram, For some reason Smith has picked week after week.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Ads on February 13, 2019, 10:25:49 PM
I think his continued selection is one of Smith's biggest failings.

He's so poor off the ball, so slow, so one footed, he's got to be left out.

To look better at the press without him in midfield is a huge indictment.

One of many I hope aren't here next season.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Matt Collins on February 13, 2019, 10:26:42 PM
In fairness who should be playing instead?

Don't think he'll be in the team at the start of next season tho
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Risso on February 13, 2019, 10:26:54 PM
He was woeful tonight, but then why Smith keeps asking him to do a job he clearly isn't suited to is beyond me.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Risso on February 13, 2019, 10:27:35 PM
In fairness who should be playing instead?


Who would be worse?  Would O'Hare for example, be less effective than Hourihane was tonight?
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: ChicagoLion on February 13, 2019, 10:28:35 PM
I refuse to accept we donít have someone in the squad that would be more effective.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Risso on February 13, 2019, 10:29:32 PM
I refuse to accept we donít have someone in the squad that would be less effective.


Errr?
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 13, 2019, 10:30:03 PM
He's one of the weirdest players i've known. A midfielder that gets as many goals and assists as him would normally be a player you build a team around, and yet he seems pretty incompetent at every other aspect of the game and is one of the first players you'd want a permanent replacement for.
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Post by: Matt Collins on February 13, 2019, 10:31:34 PM
In fairness who should be playing instead?


Who would be worse?  Would O'Hare for example, be less effective than Hourihane was tonight?

I don't know.. But I doubt that if he'd played all season he'd have the same goals and assists

Let's hope he comes back to villa next season ready to go straight into the team
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Post by: TheMalandro on February 13, 2019, 10:34:07 PM
Westwood and Downingís lovechild.
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Post by: Ads on February 13, 2019, 10:36:00 PM
I'd change shape until Jack is back. We were no worse off with 442. They had just as much of the ball.
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Post by: brian green on February 13, 2019, 10:37:16 PM
Wee Barry
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Post by: themossman on February 13, 2019, 10:40:19 PM
That 50/50 he didnít fancy tonight sums him up and goes against all the stats and the sexy free kicks.
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Post by: footyskillz on February 13, 2019, 11:22:24 PM
Did anyone else notice the look in his eyes applauding the villa fans .
Maybe contempt
Maybe tears ?!
Had an interesting look into crowd

I saw on Telly and I think he knows he's not a favorite but was clapping to acknowledge fans support of team.

Seems a decent character but think he's lost a lot of confidence as a player.

Really should have just chipped in over rushing keeper tonight .

And there was more than one 50/50 he didn't get involved with.
The one most are talking of after his initial corner was cleared - really he should have read that and made it to the ball.

However there was another instance before a fall by 'mopey' or 'soy sauce' in area that he didn't make tackle.

Also lost out in middle with one

And another left side second half where he stopped and was waving it out of play.

He's nothing more than decent level championship player.
A top level one on his day
And be struggling to be even mid level at the moment

Send him to Huddersfield next season in exchange for moy, billing or even Jonathan Hogg!

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Post by: footyskillz on February 13, 2019, 11:28:25 PM
Indeed. One thing really annoyed me watching him yesterday was his unwillingness to receive the ball, whether it be from throw-ins or when the defence bring the ball out, he never looks to make himself available. He has a talent of finding an opposition player to hide behind.

Still doing it a month on - running away from throw ins

Indeed he runs away when there is a throw! Tonight I felt your annoyance
Fine if he's vacating space for other players but it's a kinda cowardice.
A lack of responsibility.

He goes missing ! and I hoping the coaching team with  makes him watch on  devices and recordings of  his positioning and duties.

It was beyond a joke tonight where he took up non position to receive the ball majority of time.



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Post by: Ads on February 13, 2019, 11:30:31 PM
We had tears in our eyes watching him.
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Post by: Des Little on February 14, 2019, 12:06:10 AM
Another charlatan. Needs taking out of the team pronto.
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Post by: Sexual Ealing on February 14, 2019, 12:09:22 AM
I thought he worked hard tonight. Not enough to fill the gaping chasm that is our anti-midfield but I thought he was ok - better than McGinn anyway, who works like nobody I've ever seen but it affects his composure. Needs a rest.
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Post by: tomd2103 on February 14, 2019, 12:12:05 AM
We had tears in our eyes watching him.

His defensive efforts tonight were woeful.  He just gave up a couple of times when he was chasing back. 
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Post by: SoccerHQ on February 14, 2019, 12:19:03 AM
He's the barometer of our summer transfer window imo. Still a week in week out starter in September and it will clearly not have been a success.

In an ideal world I'd move him on but we have more pressing issues and he'd be a decent enough squad player.

Not good enough to be starting every single game though.
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Post by: aj2k77 on February 14, 2019, 12:53:11 AM
Sell in the summer.

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Post by: wittonwarrior on February 14, 2019, 02:51:00 AM
Sell in the summer.
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Post by: CT Villan on February 14, 2019, 04:03:09 AM
The best one for me tonight was when he stopped and raised his arm imploring the ref to give us a throw-in when Brentford were attacking down our left close to the touchline. After about 5 seconds he realised that he wasn't getting the throw and that Brentford and the ref were now 10 yards further up the pitch. So, driven by his never-say-die work ethic, he gave up and jogged back.
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Post by: KRS on February 14, 2019, 04:19:39 AM
Absolutely useless tonight.

Receives the ball and lays it off without taking any responsibility. Found myself shouting at the tv when Hutton had a throw in, but instead of moving and showing for it, he just jogged off and hid further up the pitch leaving Hutton and Whelan to make idiots of themselves by heading it straight back out for a throw to Brentford.

He also had a great chance to make amends in the second half when he was through 1 on 1 with their keeper...but bottled it.

Worth noting that he wasn't even taking set pieces tonight so he contributed even less than usual. Complete show pony trotting around and hiding.
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Post by: sid1964 on February 14, 2019, 07:18:04 AM
Another one who could not care less and why should he? £30k a week.
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Post by: colin69 on February 14, 2019, 07:20:24 AM
Apart from the odd decent free kick this bloke offers nothing.....
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Post by: Nii Lamptey on February 14, 2019, 08:01:54 AM
I've been on this bandwagon for most of the season - Good to see the majority are starting to see what Conor Hourihane offers the team... .absolutely sod all. His only contribution this season will be to break John McGinn, as that poor bloke is having to do the work of two men every game.

IMO, the reason for our dip in form when Grealish got injured is that we were at least a little bit more balanced with him in midfield back then. You had McGinn and Grealish shouldering the burden between them, with Hourihane getting away with murder in the background. Now Grealish is out, it's just McGinn, which has massively exposed Hourihane. Can't tackle, doesn't track his man, never busts a gut when team is in trouble. We've been playing every game with 10 men.

Smith MUST see this surely?! Put ANY of our squad in there and you would see an improvement, even switch him out for a 2nd striker and go 4-4-2?!

He makes my blood boil that much, I even contemplated putting a 'lowlights' reel together last night when he just let that Brentford player waltz past him along the touchline. Utterly abysmal player who is out of his depth, and we won't start getting points on the board until he is out of the team.
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Post by: andyh on February 14, 2019, 08:56:48 AM
We all know that in most teams there are flair players that you donít expect to tackle or get get stuck in, they contribute in different ways.

But Hourihane is a central midfielder for fucks sake, itís his job to get involved.
The way he half dangles his leg out in an effort to challenge an opponent is embarrassing and pathetic.

Central midfielder? My arse.
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Post by: Clark W Griswold on February 14, 2019, 10:31:14 AM
I thought he worked hard tonight. Not enough to fill the gaping chasm that is our anti-midfield but I thought he was ok - better than McGinn anyway, who works like nobody I've ever seen but it affects his composure. Needs a rest.

McGinn is starting to get dragged down to the level of the others but I think you could be right, probably needs a rest. It doesn't help playing alongside Whelan and Hourahane and trying to make up for their deficiencies either.

Conor Hourahane, what a fucking cheese dick.
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Post by: VinnieChase84 on February 14, 2019, 11:29:40 AM
Bottled a number of 50/50ís. Shouldnít be anywhere near our starting 11. No wonder Irish supporters call him Connor Hologram
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Post by: Legion on February 14, 2019, 11:37:07 AM
One of the most ineffective midfield players I've ever had the misfortune to watch.
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Post by: paul_e on February 14, 2019, 01:08:02 PM
One of the most ineffective midfield players I've ever had the misfortune to watch.

He's infuriating to watch, he spends most of the game doing an impression of wanting the ball but not actually trying to get it. If he'd finished his chance or put some quality into the box I'd have some more sympathy to him because he'd be finding ways to have an impact despite being largely anonymous but in games like last night where he doesn't score or put a decent ball in he's just not worth his place.
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Post by: Drummond on February 14, 2019, 01:10:04 PM
I'm similar to him when I play. I'm shit at anticipating what's going to happen until its too late, unless I'm in defence and can see it unfold in front of me. When I have the ball I can hit a pretty decent pass etc and have vision. It's why I only play 5-a-side. He's like a striker that scores goals and offers nothing else, except he doesn't score or assist enough and you really can't afford the luxury of that sort of player in midfield and even up front these days.
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Post by: footyskillz on February 14, 2019, 01:23:08 PM
I'm similar to him when I play. I'm shit at anticipating what's going to happen until its too late, unless I'm in defence and can see it unfold in front of me. When I have the ball I can hit a pretty decent pass etc and have vision. It's why I only play 5-a-side. He's like a striker that scores goals and offers nothing else, except he doesn't score or assist enough and you really can't afford the luxury of that sort of player in midfield and even up front these days.

Don't be hard on yourself .
I reckon you offer far more verve and dynamism !
And you clearly show an awareness of your playing abilities !
Something Hourihane could do by having a good look at how he plays !
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Post by: tomd2103 on February 14, 2019, 02:08:18 PM
The best one for me tonight was when he stopped and raised his arm imploring the ref to give us a throw-in when Brentford were attacking down our left close to the touchline. After about 5 seconds he realised that he wasn't getting the throw and that Brentford and the ref were now 10 yards further up the pitch. So, driven by his never-say-die work ethic, he gave up and jogged back.

Yep, saw that one as well.  His 'efforts' to block two crosses that resulted from the corner just before he went up the other end and missed that chance were equally pathetic. 
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Post by: wittonwarrior on February 14, 2019, 02:17:55 PM
How anyone at any club can rate him is beyond me. Bottles  out of tackles, plays like an invisible person on pitch, a poor impression of a footballer.
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Post by: john e on February 16, 2019, 10:04:45 AM
his stats are great though

better than Mcginns in certain games, just shows what a load of old bollocks they show us
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Post by: manic-road on February 16, 2019, 11:21:00 AM
So Conor is flavour of the month to be slagged off. The manager is picking him to be a defensive midfielder when his strengths are in an attacking midfield position. Yes he's not great but he's far from being the worst option in midfield.
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Post by: Lastfootstamper on February 16, 2019, 11:25:59 AM
We haven't got any options.
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Post by: ROBBO on February 16, 2019, 11:38:18 AM
He's being played in a position not suited to his strengths you cannot ask an attacking midfielder to play as a defensive midfielder and expect a good outcome.
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Post by: Ads on February 16, 2019, 11:38:53 AM
He'd being played as an 8.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: jwarry on February 16, 2019, 11:51:22 AM
Given Deanís comments about tweaking the midfield itís pretty clear Conor is the one to suffer
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Post by: Abbeyfealeavfc on February 16, 2019, 11:57:11 AM
He's played more often than not as a dm with even whelan and barny playing further forward than him. He's not a dm and playing their nullifies his strengths. But lets not allow detail to get in the way of scapegoating, an all too easy thing to do. I've every confidence that when Hourihane is moved out of the team some posters on here will find a new scapegoat because after all that's what they do best.
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Post by: kippaxvilla2 on February 16, 2019, 12:13:18 PM
He shouldnít be in the side at the minute but heís the sort of player of which there have been a few in our recent history that will be sold for a couple of million in the summer to a Burnley or Brighton and have decent PL careers.
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Post by: Risso on February 16, 2019, 01:07:07 PM
In a properly functioning team, he's a decent even good player at the level.

If we had a team like this, his shooting and dead ball ability would be a real asset:

Decent right back - Chester - Mings - decent left back
Grealish - McGinn - Hourihane
Decent right winger - Tammy - decent left winger

In that team, with a solid defence, and McGinn doing the donkey work, you'd have Jack creating space, and the wingers benefitting from that, leaving Hourihane free to pick the ball up 30 yards out and attack into space.

At the moment, both flanks are utterly shit, with dreadful full backs and piss poor wingers contributing next to nothing.  We then also have one of two geriatrics playing the holding role.  Hourihane is being asked to do a role that doesn't suit him, in a team where at least half of the outfield players are complete rubbish.

He's really pissed me off of late, but in a decent team I think he'd still be an asset,  Unlike Whelan, Jedinak, Bjarnason, Hutton and Taylor, who are either old, shit, or both, and need clearing out as soon as possible.
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Post by: Steve67 on February 16, 2019, 02:51:47 PM
For shit like Barnsley, he's fucking ace.  For Villa, he's bang average.  This is what worries me about the links to the Brentford players, they are decent but not for a bigger club with bigger aspirations.  We have managed to fill our squad with bang average players with few exceptions.
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Post by: Nii Lamptey on February 16, 2019, 02:56:20 PM
He's played more often than not as a dm with even whelan and barny playing further forward than him. He's not a dm and playing their nullifies his strengths. But lets not allow detail to get in the way of scapegoating, an all too easy thing to do. I've every confidence that when Hourihane is moved out of the team some posters on here will find a new scapegoat because after all that's what they do best.
Absolute horseshit. ANY footballer should be able to run, mark his man, stick a foot in, etc. He's been on a free ride all season. We can forgive quality, but lack of effort - Not a chance.
He's garbage.

Hope he makes me eat my words today, but I'd wager this isn't going to happen.
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Post by: Steve67 on February 16, 2019, 03:00:26 PM
He's played more often than not as a dm with even whelan and barny playing further forward than him. He's not a dm and playing their nullifies his strengths. But lets not allow detail to get in the way of scapegoating, an all too easy thing to do. I've every confidence that when Hourihane is moved out of the team some posters on here will find a new scapegoat because after all that's what they do best.
Absolute horseshit. ANY footballer should be able to run, mark his man, stick a foot in, etc. He's been on a free ride all season. We can forgive quality, but lack of effort - Not a chance.
He's garbage.

Hope he makes me eat my words today, but I'd wager this isn't going to happen.

Hologram has been awful for far too long and is only in the side as he is marginally less shit than some others.  I think you are blinded by the fact that he is a fellow countryman Abbey?
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Post by: ChicagoLion on February 16, 2019, 03:01:47 PM
He's played more often than not as a dm with even whelan and barny playing further forward than him. He's not a dm and playing their nullifies his strengths. But lets not allow detail to get in the way of scapegoating, an all too easy thing to do. I've every confidence that when Hourihane is moved out of the team some posters on here will find a new scapegoat because after all that's what they do best.
Nullifies his strengths, hilarious.
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Post by: brontebilly on February 16, 2019, 03:35:43 PM
For shit like Barnsley, he's fucking ace.  For Villa, he's bang average.  This is what worries me about the links to the Brentford players, they are decent but not for a bigger club with bigger aspirations.  We have managed to fill our squad with bang average players with few exceptions.

He was pretty good for Villa last year in fairness. The number of goals and assists he got aren't to be sniffed at. His limitations though are glaring. Inability to physically compete, one paced, one sided and that's for starters
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Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 16, 2019, 03:53:06 PM
What the fuck was he doing for their second.
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Post by: Pete3206 on February 16, 2019, 03:55:36 PM
Waste of fucking space
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Post by: ChicagoLion on February 16, 2019, 04:02:08 PM
What the fuck was he doing for their second.
What the fuck was he doing for their second.
I think he thought he might get hurt so he bottled it as usual.
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Post by: CT Villan on February 16, 2019, 04:03:18 PM
He's a kit-washers dream.
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Post by: manic-road on February 16, 2019, 04:24:21 PM
For shit like Barnsley, he's fucking ace.  For Villa, he's bang average.  This is what worries me about the links to the Brentford players, they are decent but not for a bigger club with bigger aspirations.  We have managed to fill our squad with bang average players with few exceptions.

He was pretty good for Villa last year in fairness. The number of goals and assists he got aren't to be sniffed at. His limitations though are glaring. Inability to physically compete, one paced, one sided and that's for starters

I remember the same being said about Barry.
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Post by: Steve67 on February 16, 2019, 04:26:10 PM
Taken off and replaced by a child.  That's how good he is.
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Post by: Nii Lamptey on February 16, 2019, 04:32:23 PM
Just a shame McGinn has a suspension looming. He'll squirm straight back into the next starting 11.
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Post by: Risso on February 16, 2019, 04:36:57 PM
Ramsey has showed more bollocks in five minutes than Hourihane has in 5 months.
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Post by: Risso on February 16, 2019, 04:37:53 PM
For shit like Barnsley, he's fucking ace.  For Villa, he's bang average.  This is what worries me about the links to the Brentford players, they are decent but not for a bigger club with bigger aspirations.  We have managed to fill our squad with bang average players with few exceptions.

He was pretty good for Villa last year in fairness. The number of goals and assists he got aren't to be sniffed at. His limitations though are glaring. Inability to physically compete, one paced, one sided and that's for starters

I remember the same being said about Barry.


Barry who came straight into defence as a 17 year old.  Nobody ever said he wasn't physically capable.
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Post by: ChicagoLion on February 16, 2019, 04:40:10 PM
For shit like Barnsley, he's fucking ace.  For Villa, he's bang average.  This is what worries me about the links to the Brentford players, they are decent but not for a bigger club with bigger aspirations.  We have managed to fill our squad with bang average players with few exceptions.

He was pretty good for Villa last year in fairness. The number of goals and assists he got aren't to be sniffed at. His limitations though are glaring. Inability to physically compete, one paced, one sided and that's for starters

I remember the same being said about Barry.


Barry who came straight into defence as a 17 year old.  Nobody ever said he wasn't physically capable.
No just complete bollocks, compare the performance of a 38 year old Barry to this twat.
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Post by: kippaxvilla2 on February 16, 2019, 04:40:52 PM
Duh duh duhduhduhduhduh Conor Hologram
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Post by: eamonn on February 16, 2019, 05:00:46 PM
Even without pace, Barry always had his big arse to shield the ball - McGinn carries on the tradition to this day in his own way, ensnaring opponents' cocks in the process.
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Post by: TheMalandro on February 16, 2019, 05:02:47 PM
I felt sorry for him when he came off, he had the haunted look weíve seen from Mcleish, Lambert and Sherwood.
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Post by: adrenachrome on February 16, 2019, 05:09:58 PM
I might be wrong, but I think the post that brought GB's name into the debate may have been  based on John Gregory's comment that the player would not get his shorts dirty. Gareth took great  and, many would say,  justified umbrage and was banished for a while thereafter.
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Post by: Ads on February 16, 2019, 05:19:34 PM
One of the poorest midfield displays you'll perhaps ever have the misfortune to witness.

Absolutely shocking. He's an atrocious player.
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Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 16, 2019, 05:27:15 PM
And with McGinn suspended for 2 games he'll still almost certainly be starting.
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Post by: Ads on February 16, 2019, 05:39:37 PM
I'd play Ramsey and then let the 10 fittest fans in the away end at Stoke have a race and the winner could start instead of Hourihane.

He is abysmal. No he's not. He really doesn't deserve to be praised that highly. Get the fuck out of the club, you useless shower.
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Post by: john e on February 16, 2019, 05:41:21 PM
I bet his stats still look great though
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Post by: Richard on February 16, 2019, 05:42:27 PM
No player should be jeered when he goes off - was he really any worse than Elmo or Whelan?
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Post by: Ads on February 16, 2019, 05:43:31 PM
Yes. Yes he fucking was. He was atrocious Wednesday. Smith is a moron for picking him and expecting something different.

Today was a diabolical performance.
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Post by: aj2k77 on February 16, 2019, 05:44:17 PM
Take him out of the firing line for fucks sake.
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Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 16, 2019, 05:44:30 PM
Whelan did ok, Hourihane was shit, so yes he was worse.
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Post by: London Villan on February 16, 2019, 05:45:20 PM
He even ambled off the pitch and had to be told to get a move on by one of his team mates.

Thing is, he is decent technical football, who has played ok when we are on the front foot and there is space on the pitch to play. But at the moment he is crap.
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Post by: colin69 on February 16, 2019, 05:48:16 PM
No player should be jeered when he goes off - was he really any worse than Elmo or Whelan?

Yes he was and should never play for us again. An absolute excuse of a footballer.

Elmo played well first half....
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Post by: Risso on February 16, 2019, 05:48:50 PM
No player should be jeered when he goes off

He deserved the massive round of fucks he got today, hasn't put an ounce of effort in lately.  That a departing opposing player got a much better send off from the Villa fans than he did speaks volumes.
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Post by: john e on February 16, 2019, 05:51:35 PM
he's a championship Westwood
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Post by: ChicagoLion on February 16, 2019, 05:54:11 PM
If the Manager does not take decisions about a players performances, then the crowd will eventually let him know.
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Post by: aj2k77 on February 16, 2019, 05:56:54 PM
He needs a break, he's completely out of form and the fans are losing it with him. Playing him week in and week out is going to completely ruin him to the point where he won't be worth shit when we sell him. Pretty much like everyone the last decade.
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Post by: frank black on February 16, 2019, 07:20:23 PM
I have defended this bloke in discussions with my friends and family, due to his assists and stats. But after seeing the way he trudged slowly off the pitch today, I give up.
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Post by: myf on February 16, 2019, 07:37:55 PM
he's always looked slow/lazy and vulnerable in defensive positions. not enough fight for me. has been shown up by mcginn
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Post by: SoccerHQ on February 16, 2019, 07:52:28 PM
Isn't McGinn out for two games now?

Dread to think how the midfield will play next two games and doubt Hourihane will be dropped as he does offer a goal threat at least compared to the others.
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Post by: Roysmert on February 16, 2019, 08:19:03 PM
Today we saw the culmination of the destruction of his Villa career, and his outrageously slow walk off when we're two nil down, will go down in history as his Steve Hodge moment. The fuck out of our club.
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Post by: PaulWinch again on February 16, 2019, 08:28:41 PM
I think heís horribly out of form and needs a break. I still think he has value coming on from the bench.
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Post by: XXVilla on February 16, 2019, 08:39:21 PM
I think he has value cleaning cars at Bodymoor Heath
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Post by: malckennedy on February 16, 2019, 08:50:07 PM
I think he has value cleaning cars at Bodymoor Heath

Has never been anything other than average. That is, his performances are usually poor and weak but an occasional spectacular shot and goal pulls the average score up to mediocre. Not his fault but he just isnít anywhere near the standard required.
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Post by: Clampy on February 16, 2019, 08:57:09 PM
Today we saw the culmination of the destruction of his Villa career, and his outrageously slow walk off when we're two nil down, will go down in history as his Steve Hodge moment. The fuck out of our club.

I think comparing him to Steve Hodge is a tad way over the top to be honest.
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Post by: pauliewalnuts on February 16, 2019, 09:00:44 PM
Today we saw the culmination of the destruction of his Villa career, and his outrageously slow walk off when we're two nil down, will go down in history as his Steve Hodge moment. The fuck out of our club.

I think comparing him to Steve Hodge is a tad way over the top to be honest.

Just a bit.
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Post by: PeterWithe on February 16, 2019, 09:02:46 PM
Nowhere near the absolute minimum requirement of 100% effort, he bottled out of tackles and hid when we need him to show for the ball

A cowardly performance, if we are playing fanny merchants then they need to contribute far more going forward then he does.

Arsehole.
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Post by: Roysmert on February 16, 2019, 09:09:21 PM
Today we saw the culmination of the destruction of his Villa career, and his outrageously slow walk off when we're two nil down, will go down in history as his Steve Hodge moment. The fuck out of our club.

I think comparing him to Steve Hodge is a tad way over the top to be honest.

Just a bit.

True. He's nowhere near that good. You love getting stuck in to posters, don't you?
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Post by: Ads on February 16, 2019, 09:13:31 PM
Maybe he thinks you're over the top. I think Paulie is right.

I like it when Paulie goes in two footed and knee high on posters.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Roysmert on February 16, 2019, 09:20:32 PM
Maybe he does, maybe he doesn't. It's the tone.
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Post by: charleeco7 on February 16, 2019, 09:35:56 PM
Out of form and playing way out of position. Another example of DS having to fit square pegs in round holes because of our totally unbalanced squad.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: frank black on February 16, 2019, 09:37:50 PM
Taking him off at that time and replacing him with a kid. Makes me think that Dean wanted him to get a message. It was delivered 1st class IMO and his reaction wasnít what it shouldíve been.
He now needs to work very hard and have a look at himself. Itís the lack of effort he has exuded of late which is never going to go down well with fans. He gets tackled and waves his arms around calling for fouls, he gives it away and doesnít try to get it back and he rarely keeps up with the pace of games.
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Post by: Gareth on February 16, 2019, 10:09:39 PM
Out of form and playing way out of position. Another example of DS having to fit square pegs in round holes because of our totally unbalanced squad.
Definitely out of form but Iím not sure I agree that he is out of position, he is playing centre midfield which is surely his position?

I stood and applauded him being taken off today, I certainly donít see what is wrong with supporters letting a manager/player know that their performance has been unacceptable - whilst I personally wouldnít boo I did applaud, was it sarcastic? No, was I annoyed? Yes. 

Think his stroppy stroll off the field didnít help, it was completely our time his petulance was wasting.

This isnít the NFL so we donít have specialist set piece takers - he has to contribute a lot more in open play - he doesnít tackle, is always 5 yards behind the ball and if 1 in 5 passes goes forward I think Iíd be over egging it for him.

Bruce has left us some utter pish in centre of midfield - McGinn & Jack excepted they are all slow, ponderous & technically very average. 
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: SoccerHQ on February 16, 2019, 10:17:36 PM
Today we saw the culmination of the destruction of his Villa career, and his outrageously slow walk off when we're two nil down, will go down in history as his Steve Hodge moment. The fuck out of our club.

He'll more than likey start the next game.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Clampy on February 16, 2019, 10:25:41 PM
Today we saw the culmination of the destruction of his Villa career, and his outrageously slow walk off when we're two nil down, will go down in history as his Steve Hodge moment. The fuck out of our club.

I think comparing him to Steve Hodge is a tad way over the top to be honest.

Just a bit.

True. He's nowhere near that good. You love getting stuck in to posters, don't you?

Are you suggesting your opinion should not be disagreed with?
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: SoccerHQ on February 16, 2019, 10:29:26 PM
In an ideal world I'd get rid of Hourihane aswell in the summer.

However when you think of the 10 + players who will be leaving, we obviously need depth beyond the first 11.

Would be hugely disappointed if he's still starting games in August.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: frank black on February 16, 2019, 10:29:57 PM
Today we saw the culmination of the destruction of his Villa career, and his outrageously slow walk off when we're two nil down, will go down in history as his Steve Hodge moment. The fuck out of our club.

I think comparing him to Steve Hodge is a tad way over the top to be honest.

Just a bit.

True. He's nowhere near that good. You love getting stuck in to posters, don't you?

Are you suggesting your opinion should not be disagreed with?

Are you suggesting he shouldnít suggest his opinion shouldnít be disagreed with?
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Three Spires Villa on February 16, 2019, 10:38:25 PM
It was not a Steve Hodge moment. He hasnít played well lately, last season loads of people loved him. Heís not a Steve Hodge though
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Post by: Toronto Villa on February 16, 2019, 11:49:14 PM
Good grief. Steve Hodge moment. Heís not playing well and his confidence looks shot. He looked upset coming off. I only wish Steve Hodge put in that much effort or cared that much.
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Post by: aj2k77 on February 16, 2019, 11:50:35 PM
The manager needs to be braver and take a player who's that low on confidence out of the firing line for his own good.
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Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 16, 2019, 11:52:34 PM
I agree but the problem remains though of who do you replace him with? With McGinn now out it makes it even harder.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: ChicagoLion on February 17, 2019, 01:02:55 AM
Out of form and playing way out of position. Another example of DS having to fit square pegs in round holes because of our totally unbalanced squad.
I think his form is consistent and he has been crap wherever he has played.
A passenger and now the crowd has recognized it.
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Post by: West Derby Villan on February 17, 2019, 01:40:26 AM
The manager needs to be braver and take a player who's that low on confidence out of the firing line for his own good.

Now SJM is banned, the manager has no option but to select him
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: ChicagoLion on February 17, 2019, 01:54:48 AM
It looks like Smith finally worked out Hologram and SJM is now banned for 2 games.
Not that there is anything left to play for.
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Post by: adrenachrome on February 17, 2019, 02:02:08 AM
In fairly short order it should be clear if DS is planning ahead or fumbling around trying to shore things up.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Des Little on February 17, 2019, 08:26:27 AM
Heís been poor for some time, and for what itís worth I donít think he should have started yesterday, but clearly Smith thought otherwise. Itís all about opinions, but Iím not in favour of cheering a substitution like his, I think itís counter productive, and now we are left with what appears to be a broken man when we are going to have little choice but include him whilst SJM is out. Itís all very sad.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: ROBBO on February 17, 2019, 08:34:00 AM
How does anyone believe a player who can't tackle belongs in midfield, play him just behind the strikers and you get a different player, he is told where to play it can't be by choice.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Virgil Caine on February 17, 2019, 08:35:03 AM
Heís been poor for some time, and for what itís worth I donít think he should have started yesterday, but clearly Smith thought otherwise. Itís all about opinions, but Iím not in favour of cheering a substitution like his, I think itís counter productive, and now we are left with what appears to be a broken man when we are going to have little choice but include him whilst SJM is out. Itís all very sad.

Donít disagree with you Des but there is a danger of mollycoddling players now. If he has any character or professionalism Hourihane will be determined to prove the Manager and crowd wrong and work on those elements of his game that caused him to be substituted.
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Post by: pauliewalnuts on February 17, 2019, 01:11:54 PM
Today we saw the culmination of the destruction of his Villa career, and his outrageously slow walk off when we're two nil down, will go down in history as his Steve Hodge moment. The fuck out of our club.

I think comparing him to Steve Hodge is a tad way over the top to be honest.

Just a bit.

True. He's nowhere near that good. You love getting stuck in to posters, don't you?

What on earth are you talking about?

"Getting stuck into"?
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Three Spires Villa on February 23, 2019, 06:57:08 PM
On a side note, the idiot behind me who called him a Fenian bastard after he took two corners, that were not very good, what a tool! Fenian is a derogatory term used against Catholics, would he call Tammy or any of our black players by the N word, well he might!! Weíre not in Glasgow leave this shite away from Villa, itís a racist horrible thing to say
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Toronto Villa on February 23, 2019, 08:22:57 PM
Fantastic crunching tackle today. For a split second he became Rico or Shaun Teale. Then he went and hit several poor corners and free kicks.
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Post by: achilles on February 23, 2019, 10:20:41 PM
To be fair to him I thought he played much better today, except for those two corners and definitely put a shift in.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: AlexAlexCropley on February 24, 2019, 09:25:19 AM
And he was supported from the stands. We're a conciliatory bunch.
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Post by: Scratchins on February 24, 2019, 09:42:38 AM
On a side note, the idiot behind me who called him a Fenian bastard after he took two corners, that were not very good, what a tool! Fenian is a derogatory term used against Catholics, would he call Tammy or any of our black players by the N word, well he might!! Weíre not in Glasgow leave this shite away from Villa, itís a racist horrible thing to say
This
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: AlexAlexCropley on February 24, 2019, 09:53:30 AM
On a side note, the idiot behind me who called him a Fenian bastard after he took two corners, that were not very good, what a tool! Fenian is a derogatory term used against Catholics, would he call Tammy or any of our black players by the N word, well he might!! Weíre not in Glasgow leave this shite away from Villa, itís a racist horrible thing to say
This
Also the F*** the IRA chant when MacLean touched the ball. Spouted with venom by the middle aged couple behind me. Funnily,they didn't join in any other chants.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Clampy on February 24, 2019, 10:01:03 AM
To be fair to him I thought he played much better today, except for those two corners and definitely put a shift in.

Yep, agree with that.
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Post by: brontebilly on February 24, 2019, 11:11:44 AM
On a side note, the idiot behind me who called him a Fenian bastard after he took two corners, that were not very good, what a tool! Fenian is a derogatory term used against Catholics, would he call Tammy or any of our black players by the N word, well he might!! Weíre not in Glasgow leave this shite away from Villa, itís a racist horrible thing to say

Funnily enough, the town Hourihane is from, Bandon, wouldn't exactly be a fenian hotbed. Like a town from the shires; rugby, hockey etc. More famous for its other son, Graham Norton.
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Post by: ChicagoLion on February 24, 2019, 01:22:29 PM
On a side note, the idiot behind me who called him a Fenian bastard after he took two corners, that were not very good, what a tool! Fenian is a derogatory term used against Catholics, would he call Tammy or any of our black players by the N word, well he might!! Weíre not in Glasgow leave this shite away from Villa, itís a racist horrible thing to say

Funnily enough, the town Hourihane is from, Bandon, wouldn't exactly be a fenian hotbed. Like a town from the shires; rugby, hockey etc. More famous for its other son, Graham Norton.
Maybe they could do a job swap.
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Post by: eamonn on February 24, 2019, 02:13:17 PM
Put Conor in the red chair first to ease him in.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: PeterWithesShin on March 02, 2019, 03:45:23 PM
Play him right, have Jack in the side and there you go.
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Post by: Toronto Villa on March 02, 2019, 03:50:53 PM
Play him right, have Jack in the side and there you go.

You put in McGinn to do the grunt work, Hourihane to float around the final third and Jack pulling the strings behind the scenes. Hourihane is always capable of this.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: brontebilly on March 02, 2019, 04:56:52 PM
shown a lot of character last two games.

not a holding midfielder by any stretch of the imagination but given time and space is a decent operator at this level.

simply cannot knock his goal return for us either.

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Post by: Steve67 on March 02, 2019, 05:00:07 PM
Consistency is the key though. With SJM back, I wonder whether it'll be Hourihane or Whelan that makes way?
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Post by: Axl Rose on March 02, 2019, 05:00:53 PM
Far more involved and further forward today.

Also thought Whelan had his best game for us. Credit where credit's due and all that.
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Post by: PeterWithesShin on March 02, 2019, 05:02:08 PM
As much as I like SJM it would be incredibly harsh to drop Whelan or Hotlips after their performances today.
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Post by: brontebilly on March 02, 2019, 05:03:40 PM
Consistency is the key though. With SJM back, I wonder whether it'll be Hourihane or Whelan that makes way?

McGinn will have to start on the bench surely, only change will be at centre half. Hope Chester will be back.

Cracking ball from Hourihane late on, el Ghazi should have scored
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Post by: GarTomas on March 02, 2019, 05:04:30 PM
Iíve knocked him recently band he still doesnít convince me but fair play on his goals today.

Decisions decisions for Smith next week.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: London Villan on March 02, 2019, 05:07:39 PM
We should boo more players off. ;-)
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Toronto Villa on March 02, 2019, 05:16:35 PM
As much as I like SJM it would be incredibly harsh to drop Whelan or Hotlips after their performances today.

Yes. I would like to think Whelan will be professional about it and know that McGinn is the fitter, younger player.
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Post by: PeterWithesShin on March 02, 2019, 05:26:50 PM
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Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Ad@m on March 02, 2019, 06:04:39 PM
And two more goals from open play.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Villafirst on March 02, 2019, 06:45:55 PM
Consistency is the key though. With SJM back, I wonder whether it'll be Hourihane or Whelan that makes way?

McGinn will have to start on the bench surely, only change will be at centre half. Hope Chester will be back.

Cracking ball from Hourihane late on, el Ghazi should have scored

No way you can leave McGinn out against SHA! That will be a hard bitten Derby. A totally different proposition to today....
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Post by: Risso on March 02, 2019, 07:18:42 PM
Consistency is the key though. With SJM back, I wonder whether it'll be Hourihane or Whelan that makes way?

McGinn will have to start on the bench surely, only change will be at centre half. Hope Chester will be back.

Cracking ball from Hourihane late on, el Ghazi should have scored

No way you can leave McGinn out against SHA! That will be a hard bitten Derby. A totally different proposition to today....

Who are you going to drop though?  Both Whelan and Hourihane were great today.
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Post by: Toronto Villa on March 02, 2019, 07:21:30 PM
Whelan. Hourihane offers goals which Whelan doesnít. McGinn has twice the energy and combativeness. Tough on Whelan but we need to play the best team available. The midfield trio of Jack, SJM and Conor prior to Jackís injury looked superb.
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Post by: achilles on March 02, 2019, 08:16:36 PM
Can't change a winning side, Whelan was superb today. McGinn will have to be a sub (and I never thought I would say that)!
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Post by: Sexual Ealing on March 02, 2019, 08:54:11 PM
I think we'll need Whelan next week. And McGinn. And Hourihane. And obviously Grealish. We may not need both wingers.
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Post by: Lastfootstamper on March 02, 2019, 09:07:34 PM
I think we'll need Whelan next week. And McGinn. And Hourihane. And obviously Grealish. We may not need both wingers.

There was a nose on WM after the games. From the sound of it, they're really struggling in the middle of their midfield.

If we stick to what we do, I don't think we should have too many worries.
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Post by: Sexual Ealing on March 02, 2019, 09:12:39 PM
I think we'll need Whelan next week. And McGinn. And Hourihane. And obviously Grealish. We may not need both wingers.

There was a nose on WM after the games. From the sound of it, they're really struggling in the middle of their midfield.

If we stick to what we do, I don't think we should have too many worries.

I listened to that (because I get excited after we turn in a performance and I'm pathetic). The Monk interview was ridiculous. He basically admitted that he was thinking of next week in the Hull game, and allowed the whole interview to be dominated by the game against us. He's let himself get sucked in to their obsession. Obviously, that might work out for them, but it invites totally needless pressure.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: KRS on March 02, 2019, 09:12:46 PM
Hologram has taken a lot of criticism over the last few weeks but fairplay to him today playing further up the pitch, however SJM has to come straight back in...no questions asked on that one. Itís a nice midfield conundrum for Smith to have (with Carroll also available) but Iíd be thinking either Adomah or El Ghazi will have to make way. We need our strongest and most creative midfield next week, and Smith now has a few options off the bench...itís a team game after all.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Sexual Ealing on March 02, 2019, 09:14:54 PM
Hologram has taken a lot of criticism over the last few weeks but fairplay to him today playing further up the pitch, however SJM has to come straight back in...no questions asked on that one. Itís a nice midfield conundrum for Smith to have (with Carroll also available) but Iíd be thinking either Adomah or El Ghazi will have to make way. We need our strongest and most creative midfield next week, and Smith now has a few options off the bench...itís a team game after all.

Perhaps 'fair play' ought to extend to using his real name?
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Post by: KRS on March 02, 2019, 09:26:01 PM
Thatís the only comment you have on my post? Get over yourself.

Credit where credit is due but letís not pretend that heís not been absolutely shite over the last few weeks and his performances earned him that suitable tongue in cheek name. Itís up to Conor Hourihane himself to maintain a consistent good level of performance now and become a valuable asset to this team..we would all be happy with that.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Sexual Ealing on March 02, 2019, 09:33:39 PM
Thatís the only comment you have on my post? Get over yourself.

Credit where credit is due but letís not pretend that heís not been absolutely shite over the last few weeks and his performances earned him that suitable tongue in cheek name. Itís up to Conor Hourihane himself to maintain a consistent good level of performance now and become a valuable asset to this team..we would all be happy with that.

That was my only comment on your post.
Title: Re: Conor Hourihane - SIGNED
Post by: Toronto Villa on March 02, 2019, 09:35:01 PM
How about he was played to his strengths today and it really showed? Nobody is dismissing he hasnít played well but he has certain qualities that when used correctly really produce performances like today. Not every player can be everything and if he was the bustling two way player who scores 10+ goals a season then in all likelihood heíd be in the PL.
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Post by: Abbeyfealeavfc on March 02, 2019, 09:37:42 PM
KRS wtf get a grip!
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Post by: brentastonb6 on March 02, 2019, 09:44:24 PM
Well done Connor, some of the stick has been extreme , hopefully you and the rest of the team will have come out the other side stronger for it 👍
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Post by: KRS on March 02, 2019, 09:44:59 PM
Yep agree TV. I also mentioned that and itís been discussed on here a few times that heís best utilised further up the pitch as heís not suited to a defensive game due to his limited passing range, lack of pace, inability to track players and weak in the tackle (with the exception of the crunching challenge last week). Our midfield has been weak as piss lately and they have all been rightly criticised with the expection of SJM.
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Post by: KRS on March 02, 2019, 09:46:08 PM
KRS wtf get a grip!
WTF Abbey?!
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Post by: colin69 on March 03, 2019, 08:10:55 AM
Hourihane was very good yesterday but has been crap for two months.

Letís see if he can keep it going.
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Post by: frank black on March 03, 2019, 08:38:16 AM
KRS wtf get a grip!
WTF Abbey?!

WTF, both
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Post by: Rigadon on March 03, 2019, 08:38:24 AM
He was finally playing in his best position, which is about 30 years further up the pitch than he's been playing lately.  I wondered during the game whether they'd played Jack deeper to reduce the kicking he normally gets further up.  Whatever, it worked very well indeed.
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Post by: Tuscans on March 03, 2019, 01:06:27 PM
Anyone watched the extended highlights on Youtube yet? What's with the commentator pronouncing Hourihane as Houri-HAINE ( sounds like rain ). Is that how it should be pronounced?
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Post by: ChicagoLion on March 03, 2019, 01:14:12 PM
He had his one decent game in 20.
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Post by: Lastfootstamper on March 03, 2019, 01:23:39 PM
Anyone watched the extended highlights on Youtube yet? What's with the commentator pronouncing Hourihane as Houri-HAINE ( sounds like rain ). Is that how it should be pronounced?

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Post by: PeterWithesShin on March 10, 2019, 09:59:23 PM
Not a bad result to mark your 100th game for the club.
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Post by: aj2k77 on March 10, 2019, 10:24:25 PM
18 goals and 14 assists in 100 games.
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Post by: Diablo on March 18, 2019, 11:46:30 AM
Congratulations to Conor and his partner on their new arrival. UTV!!
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Post by: Sexual Ealing on March 18, 2019, 12:33:27 PM
Eastie would know his wife's name, the baby's name and weight and the date of the christening. Come on Diablo, sharpen up!
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Post by: Toronto Villa on March 18, 2019, 01:41:27 PM
Eastie would have been in the delivery room
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Post by: PGW on March 18, 2019, 01:57:31 PM
I haven't seen anywhere whether it's a boy or girl???
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Post by: eamonn on March 18, 2019, 02:06:27 PM
Neville Neville?  Not sure if you're a boy or a girl.
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Post by: Diablo on March 18, 2019, 02:44:39 PM
Eastie would know his wife's name, the baby's name and weight and the date of the christening. Come on Diablo, sharpen up!
Haha! Point taken I'll order my GoPro Hero 7 Action Camera for next time. 
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Post by: footyskillz on March 18, 2019, 08:18:37 PM
Now Mcginn scoring and driving forward can we keep Hourihane guy out the first 11.
I mean Mcginn doing his job

I mean I like to see what Carroll has on offer
And that Hourihane can be a bench man.

As we know Hourihane biggest assets are his shooting set pieces and there for potential assists.

But I mean we have other players who could be as capable and hopefully show more guile and despite being pleased with a few recent goals he wasn't brilliant against Forest for me.
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Post by: Richard on March 18, 2019, 10:10:47 PM
Footy you're getting boring with your constant whining about Hourihane
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Post by: DeeBoy1 on March 18, 2019, 10:15:44 PM
I've often been a fan of your posts footy...but for someone who claims to have had a hiatus from the site because of all the negativity, that's a bloody negative post to drop in your first couple of days back. Seems pretty unnecessary in the current positive climate.
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Post by: Abbeyfealeavfc on March 18, 2019, 10:55:28 PM
Grealish is pivotal to our midfield and gets the best out of Whelan, Hourihane and McGinn. The latter 3 know they are playing for 2 places, as Deano likes to play with 2 wide men. That can only be good for Villa because each knows they have to step up if they want to be part of the starting 11. At different points from Stoke away onwards, all three have missed games and have responded with great performances to ensure Deano keeps picking them. At this stage of the season with the playoffs back on again the whole of the midfield is to be applauded for their efforts (no exceptions). So to Conor, Glenn and John...keep up the good work and to captain Jack, keep masterminding the team to wins. UTV!
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Post by: KRS on March 18, 2019, 11:48:38 PM
I'd go as far to say that it's 2 players fighting for 1 place (Hourihane and Whelan). They both have their strengths and weaknesses so there is absolutely nothing wrong with rotating them depending on the opposition or how a game is going. As someone mentioned on the Whelan thread, he was great against Boro because they sat so deep and weren't running at us so he had time and space to do his job, however he may not necessarily be so effective against Leeds, Norwich or Sheff Utd. I don't think he has the legs for 2 games per week, so utilising and rotating Hourihane and Whelan makes perfect sense to me.
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Post by: footyskillz on March 19, 2019, 12:08:48 AM
Anyone watched the extended highlights on Youtube yet? What's with the commentator pronouncing Hourihane as Houri-HAINE ( sounds like rain ). Is that how it should be pronounced?



"How- ra- hun"

Oh how he doesn't run hun
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Post by: andyh on April 30, 2019, 08:41:53 PM
Well.
I have been a big critic of Hourihane over the last few months and have found him very frustrating at times.
But, the way he stood up on Sunday and showed his passion, fight and desire, he has shot up in my estimation.
He plays too many backwards passes sometimes, but Iím now going to be blind to that because there is no doubt the bloke cares, and you canít ask for more than that.
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Post by: KRS on April 30, 2019, 08:44:10 PM
The passion, fight, desire and team ethic is running through the squad. Conor is just one of many that have bought into it, and I'm absolutely delighted to be able to eat humble pie. Keep up the good work! :)
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Post by: XXVilla on April 30, 2019, 09:25:49 PM
Well Dean did say they were squaring up to each other in training...
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Post by: Steve67 on April 30, 2019, 10:49:52 PM
Well Dean did say they were squaring up to each other in training...

I bet they've been laughing and pissing about in training by diving like a Bamford all week. 
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Post by: Toronto Villa on May 01, 2019, 01:12:42 AM
He's a lucky boy is our Conor. If he got a ban we couldn't really have complained. Still good for us and fuck Leeds.
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Post by: Singapore Villa on May 01, 2019, 06:00:20 AM
Conor is a lucky boy!

Onwards and upwards.

UTV.
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Post by: Matt Collins on May 04, 2019, 06:26:12 AM
Very very lucky. I can't fathom how they reached that view

I'd still pick whelan ahead of him other than when whelan needs resting. He gives us more presence and allows Jack and mcginn to play higher up the pitch.
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Post by: Brassneck on May 04, 2019, 08:17:22 AM
Very very lucky. I can't fathom how they reached that view

I'd still pick whelan ahead of him other than when whelan needs resting. He gives us more presence and allows Jack and mcginn to play higher up the pitch.

Whelan for me as well.

I guess that Conor escaped further punishment because he was booked in the melee and I don't think that the EFL can override the ref's decision.
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Post by: Clampy on May 04, 2019, 09:35:02 AM
I like Hourihane but it's Whelan for me in the play off games as well. Hourihane has played the deeper role when he's been in the side though which may not suit him as much but he's done ok.
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Post by: Tom Stewart on May 04, 2019, 10:28:41 AM
Is it just me who doesn't see a punch? He puts an open hand on his chest then grabs a fistful of his shirt, admittedly in an aggressive manner, but the total lack of reaction from the Leeds player suggests there wasn't much force behind it.

Agree that Whelan is currently ahead of him in the pecking order. His quick, one-touch passing game is better IMO, as is his tactical knowledge of the DM position, and also his bravery to get on the ball as much as possible. I really like that about Glenn.

I expect to see Conor play a part at some point, though. Whelan probably doesn't have the legs for 180 minutes of intense football in 4 days. Plus, we do miss his set-pieces when he isn't in the side. Don't carry anywhere near the same threat from deadballs.
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Post by: villan from luton on May 04, 2019, 10:42:15 PM
It was not a punch, Leeds fans just tried to make a big deal of it. To be fair the tosser deserved a whack, as did Roberts even more. I think Hourihane has done a good job this season, but Glenn is the better defensive midfielder but he will have a big part to play
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Post by: SoccerHQ on May 04, 2019, 10:44:25 PM
Whelan will play first leg for sure, have to see if he can manage the quick turnaround.
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Post by: KRS on May 04, 2019, 11:16:25 PM
Whelan will play first leg for sure, have to see if he can manage the quick turnaround.
Whelan would be more suited to the second leg if we need to defend a lead, but quite rightly there are concerns over his legs lasting the distance with 2 games in quick succession. Having his level head and experience at the Baggies game may also be better than Conor having another rush of blood to the head. Most importantly we need to take advantage of the home leg first and go to their place with a comfortable 2 or 3 goal cushion.
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Post by: passitsideways on May 05, 2019, 11:17:35 AM
Think it'll be a swap of Whelan for Hourihane at the hour mark in both games. Been nice to have Hourihane come on and be able to make runs into the box against (hopefully) tired midfielders.
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Post by: Sexual Ealing on May 05, 2019, 06:34:20 PM
Whelan will play first leg for sure, have to see if he can manage the quick turnaround.
Whelan would be more suited to the second leg if we need to defend a lead, but quite rightly there are concerns over his legs lasting the distance with 2 games in quick succession. Having his level head and experience at the Baggies game may also be better than Conor having another rush of blood to the head. Most importantly we need to take advantage of the home leg first and go to their place with a comfortable 2 or 3 goal cushion.

I hope I'm wrong but I can't see it being as easy as that.
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Post by: Matt Collins on May 06, 2019, 10:56:35 AM
I'd play whelan at home

Seems a bit counter intuitive, but he gives us a better platform and allows mcginn and jack to play w more freedom

Plus their biggest strength is their front two so we need to be tight there

But it's a shame not to have such a goal threat
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Post by: GarTomas on May 11, 2019, 02:51:04 PM
Iím one of his biggest critics but made an impact today and a great strike to turn the game.
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Post by: paul_e on May 11, 2019, 02:54:23 PM
Iím one of his biggest critics but made an impact today and a great strike to turn the game.

Whelan was slowing the play down too much and doesn't offer a threat from range, Hourihane sped up the play and punished them for defending too deep.
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Post by: themossman on May 11, 2019, 02:58:56 PM
Big respect to Hourihane. Really stepped up today when most of the team looked like bottling it.
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Post by: ChicagoLion on May 11, 2019, 03:02:38 PM
Perfect for him to come on, I would still start with Whelan Tuesday and have Jedready for the inevitable  long ball onslaught.
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Post by: AsTallAsLions on May 11, 2019, 03:02:47 PM
Big respect to Hourihane. Really stepped up today when most of the team looked like bottling it.

This.
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Post by: aj2k77 on May 11, 2019, 03:03:37 PM
Lots of love for Conor. He he heavily weighed in with goals and assists since he joined us. He's been worth his weight in gold and can hold his head up high.

A good Villa player.
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Post by: SoccerHQ on May 11, 2019, 03:05:22 PM
Whelan will play first leg for sure, have to see if he can manage the quick turnaround.
Whelan would be more suited to the second leg if we need to defend a lead, but quite rightly there are concerns over his legs lasting the distance with 2 games in quick succession. Having his level head and experience at the Baggies game may also be better than Conor having another rush of blood to the head. Most importantly we need to take advantage of the home leg first and go to their place with a comfortable 2 or 3 goal cushion.

No chance Whelan is starting now even with need to protect lead.

We can score a goal or two at Hawthorns like we did in December so I really can't see us going there and just parking the bus like WBA did today.
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Post by: Toronto Villa on May 11, 2019, 03:20:15 PM
We have to start with Conor and go at them. A goal over there and third goal for us in the tie will sink them. We need to attack from the off, bring Whelan or Jedi on late.
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Post by: achilles on May 11, 2019, 04:09:23 PM
Fantastic strike by Conor, that was definitely missing before he came on. He transformed the team when he came on, has to start on Tuesday!
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Post by: ChicagoLion on May 11, 2019, 05:42:03 PM
He is a better player when the opposition is tired.
Great to bring him on to have an impact not trundling around the pitch achieving little.
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Post by: KRS on May 11, 2019, 07:03:46 PM
Beautiful goal today...he was waiting for it, Jack set him up and he struck it as sweet as you like. Well played Conor.
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Post by: PaulWinch again on May 11, 2019, 07:09:10 PM
He gets criticised, but he adds so much attacking value.
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Post by: Jon Crofts on May 11, 2019, 07:14:36 PM
Right in line with me in the Trinity, a wonderful strike.
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Post by: Abbeyfealeavfc on May 11, 2019, 07:28:56 PM
Great from Conor when he came on. Changed the game with his energy, passing, crucial interception (ahead of his wonderful strike) and of course that goal!. A great day's work. Well done Conor!
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Post by: Ian. on May 11, 2019, 07:45:21 PM
Heís a good un and at times unfairly criticised as heís not a holding midfielder. Quality finish today.
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Post by: themossman on May 11, 2019, 07:50:13 PM
Squad depth really helping us at this point. Struggling to find a way through, SJM and grealish quiet by their standards and weíve got some great options on the bench to get at them another way.
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Post by: PeterWithesShin on May 11, 2019, 08:52:55 PM
Not bad for a hologram https://twitter.com/avfchistory/status/1127199561179701250
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Post by: KRS on May 11, 2019, 09:19:24 PM
10 of their players in the box and Gayle on the half way line when that one flies into the back of the net. Absolute beauty!

Edit: shocking school boy spelling mistake!
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Post by: paul_e on May 11, 2019, 09:19:35 PM
What's really strange about his goal is that surely everyone in the league knows he is capable of scoring goals like that so why the fuck did they give him 20 yards of space on the edge of the box, this is why parking the bus is such a poor tactic most of the time. The only reason we didn't exploit the space earlier is because we weren't being brave enough to take the shot on, loads of players had time to shoot from distance.
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Post by: KRS on May 11, 2019, 09:23:00 PM
We didnít take enough shots from range today but some of the ones we did were woeful...SJM certainly didnít have his shooting boots on today!
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Post by: olaftab on May 11, 2019, 09:33:44 PM
10 of their players in the box and Gayle on the half way line when that one flys into the back of the net. Absolute beauty!
It was unbelievable regression defending from them. Jack had yards of room inside the area as they defended the 6 yard box. No one picks Conor as he screams at Jack for a pass.
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Post by: dave shelley on May 12, 2019, 12:55:48 AM
10 of their players in the box and Gayle on the half way line when that one flys into the back of the net. Absolute beauty!
It was unbelievable regression defending from them. Jack had yards of room inside the area as they defended the 6 yard box. No one picks Conor as he screams at Jack for a pass.

...And gets it.
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Post by: LukeJames on May 12, 2019, 02:33:17 AM
Great goal, Ashame Johnstone didnt dive to give it a better look.
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Post by: Olof's Beard on May 12, 2019, 08:10:37 AM
9 goals and 11 assists. 20 key goal contributions is brilliant. he's an efficient player when it matters most and absolutely crucial to this team. Hasn't sulked when benched either, just comes on and makes his point.
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Post by: Marlon From Bearwood on May 12, 2019, 08:18:14 AM
A very important player who any other club in this division would love to have.

Iím so pleased heís turned it round after his rough patch in February. I hope some of our fans who dished out abuse are now having a look at themselves.
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Post by: Clampy on May 12, 2019, 09:29:28 AM
He is a better player when the opposition is tired.
Great to bring him on to have an impact not trundling around the pitch achieving little.

I wouldn't call 11 assists and 8 goals as trundling around the pitch achieving little to be honest. There's room for improvement but I think he's been a great signing for the money.
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Post by: Clark W Griswold on May 12, 2019, 09:37:43 AM
The thing is, he's great to have as a regularly involved member of the squad, but he's not someone that you want starting week in week out if you've got any serious intent on trying to get promoted. He certainly went up a few more rungs in the likeability scale yesterday and as pointed out, he's been excellent value for money.
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Post by: mr underhill on May 12, 2019, 09:46:59 AM
compare and contrast to the others that came in with him in that window - Bree, Hogan and Ange. Need I say more.
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Post by: Roysmert on May 12, 2019, 11:40:12 AM
The thing is, he's great to have as a regularly involved member of the squad, but he's not someone that you want starting week in week out if you've got any serious intent on trying to get promoted. He certainly went up a few more rungs in the likeability scale yesterday and as pointed out, he's been excellent value for money.

Yes he's clearly no Tom fucking Huddlestone or Jake fucking Livermore, is he? Come on, he's EXACTLY what you need in a promotion squad.
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Post by: kieron on May 29, 2019, 11:46:49 AM
https://www.sportsjoe.ie/football/conor-hourihane-man-always-knew-201736
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Post by: oldtimernow on May 29, 2019, 12:01:14 PM
Don't see him pointing too much though (!)

Westwood seems to be doing ok for the other clarets so I think Conor deserves a shot at the PL, more to work with
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Post by: supertom on May 29, 2019, 12:04:12 PM
I think he's toughened up a lot recently and it's made him a better player. He's getting his foot in more. He tracks back better. On the other end of the pitch his goals and assists have never been an issue. I don't think he'll play every single week, but for me he'll be invaluable next season and a threat from set pieces too. I see him as a fitter Charlie Adam, if you think back to him hitting the Prem initially. He may still drift out of games (though that is improving too for me) but you're always likely to get a good set piece, or a killer pass from Conor. Or a goal. He's better than a lot of midfielders in the bottom 12 of the Prem that's for sure. We need only look at our old boy Westwood who's doing okay in the Prem now. Hourihane is miles better.
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