The Cricket Thread 2017

[PaulWinch again]

Dreadful bowling by Stokes.

[Villan For Life]

We have been sloppy with the ball and the bat but you have to give credit to Pakistan for the way they stifled us with the ball and then batted sensibly.

[PaulWinch again]

Really really poor all round today. Worst thing is we abandoned our principles when we batted. Well done Pakistan. Rethink for England as to how we address a high pressure knock out game.

[paul_e]

I think a few players bottled it a bit today, good that it happened now though because it gives us something to work on for the world cup.

[PaulWinch again]

Yeah it was a horror show all round and I think they missed judged the pitch. The fact that Morgan said 270 would be a good score, given the position Pakistan were in, says to me that we underrated them and we're a bit complacent.

[olaftab]

The consolation here is that Pakistan look like a very weak batting line up.  We need to just go for it a bit now, 240-250 gives us a decent chance still.

Are you the Michael Owen of cricket punditry?
Well second thought you are not as you at least had an opinion😅

[olaftab]

England set off like a train 🚂 through the group matches and ran out of steam as they have a habit of doing at the wrong time.  Another tournament now gone without winning it. Someone said it's better to fail here than the World Cup I am afraid that won't do. Winning tournament is an habit. England had the talent were fully prepared and home from home so sorry but not good enough chaps.

[PaulWinch again]

The problem is there's no way to test whether we have learnt from today until the World Cup.

[curiousorange]

That shitty performance couldn't have come against the Aussies, could it?

[Villan For Life]

That shitty performance couldn't have come against the Aussies, could it?

I never want to lose against the Crims, however if we had then we'd be playing our semi at Edgbaston on a pitch more suited to our attack.

That said, to be a truly great side we need to win on all surfaces.

[tomd2103]

Concur with everything said on here and that was a real setback yesterday.  We've been on a steep upward curve in the 50 over game over the past couple of years and winning this tournament would have continued that.  I wouldn't be tearing too much up though, as I don't think there is a whole lot wrong at the moment.

I really hope the West Indies bring over their full strength ODI side later in the summer, as that will be a good test if they do. 

[Dave Cooper please]

One slight mitigating factor, and not to make excuses for a poor performance, was that this was the same pitch that Pakistan played on in their previous match, so they would have known how to bowl on it and would have had more clue about the way it played.

 Pretty poor not to have a new pitch for a semi-final really.

[taylorsworkrate]

One slight mitigating factor, and not to make excuses for a poor performance, was that this was the same pitch that Pakistan played on in their previous match, so they would have known how to bowl on it and would have had more clue about the way it played.

 Pretty poor not to have a new pitch for a semi-final really.

Completely agree about the lack of a new pitch for the semi final of a major tournament. Completely amateurish really.

[Lsvilla]

One slight mitigating factor, and not to make excuses for a poor performance, was that this was the same pitch that Pakistan played on in their previous match, so they would have known how to bowl on it and would have had more clue about the way it played.

 Pretty poor not to have a new pitch for a semi-final really.

Completely agree about the lack of a new pitch for the semi final of a major tournament. Completely amateurish really.

ICC competition rules - not permitted to produce a fresh pitch for the knockout stages of a tournament

[taylorsworkrate]

One slight mitigating factor, and not to make excuses for a poor performance, was that this was the same pitch that Pakistan played on in their previous match, so they would have known how to bowl on it and would have had more clue about the way it played.

 Pretty poor not to have a new pitch for a semi-final really.

Completely agree about the lack of a new pitch for the semi final of a major tournament. Completely amateurish really.

ICC competition rules - not permitted to produce a fresh pitch for the knockout stages of a tournament

Blimey. That's an awful rule