January Transfer Window Rumours/Suggestions/Hearsay/Heresy/Horseplay

[sirlordbaltimore]

Anyone got Westwood's win percentage over the last 4 seasons when he starts for us?

I would imagine most of our players win percentages would be equally horrifc

[Dante Lavelli]

I agree with the last few comments.  His confidence is shot which is a pretty important aspect if your strength, and role in the team, is to be constantly involved and to dictate the play.

There was a period at the end of Lambert's first season where he looked to have real potential however any swagger has long since departed and it would be better for everyone if he found another club where he could re-discover his purpose.

[Villafirst]

Cleverley gone to Watford on-loan until the end of the season with a view to a permanent deal. That's one ruled out, to Watford - unthinkable a couple of years ago...

[Ads]

Cleverley played for Wigan, why is it unthinkable he'd go to Watford?

I don't think we were in for him and I'm glad we weren't, because he's absolute shite.

[brian green]

Cleverley is a runaway Westwood.

[SoccerHQ]

Cleverley gone to Watford on-loan until the end of the season with a view to a permanent deal. That's one ruled out, to Watford - unthinkable a couple of years ago...

Watford is premier league...it's as simple as that. He actually played there years ago on loan.

It's the same with D*lph...I have no idea why people think he'd come back when he probably wouldn't want to and he'd also have a good 3-4 premier league clubs in for him.

[Richard E]

Cleverley played for Wigan, why is it unthinkable he'd go to Watford?

I don't think we were in for him and I'm glad we weren't, because he's absolute shite.

Yup. Legend in his own mind.

[PeterWithesShin]

He spent most of the season with us being worse than Westwood. Which is about as damning as it gets.

[steamer]

I can not think of anyone who is available that I would want back.
Available being the key word. No one who has moved on, spunked out and now is available, please lets all ignore lazy links and bring some fresh blood.

[aj2k77]

Anyone got Westwood's win percentage over the last 4 seasons when he starts for us?

2016/17     Started 17 won 2 Drawn 9 lost 6 win percentage 11.76  Team win percentage without him starting 75.00 (won 6/8)
2015/16     Started 31 won 3 drawn 6 lost 23 win percentage 9.67 Team win percentage without him starting 00.00 (won 0/7)
2014/15     Started 25 won 7 drawn 4 lost 14 win percentage 28.00 Team win percentage without him starting 23.07 (won 3/13)
2013/14     Started 35 won 8 drawn 8 lost 19 win percentage 22.85 Team win percentage without him starting 66.00 (won 2/3)


Total started 108 won 20 drawn 27 lost 61 win percentage 18.51 Team win percentage without him starting 29.26 (11/31)

[Steve67]

I think we have probably worked out now that Westwood is crap. Can we please move on? He needs replacing we get it. Never has such an invisible player yielded so much coverage.

[Richard E]

I think we have probably worked out now that Westwood is crap. Can we please move on? He needs replacing we get it. Never has such an invisible player yielded so much coverage.

Especially as this is the transfer thread!

[chrisw1]

And when he's gone you can all move onto the next one.

[pauliewalnuts]

Cleverley played for Wigan, why is it unthinkable he'd go to Watford?

I don't think we were in for him and I'm glad we weren't, because he's absolute shite.

Yep, he's shit.

He managed about four half decent games for us, and since going to Everton has looked consistently shit.

[TB]

2016/17     Started 17 won 2 Drawn 9 lost 6 win percentage 11.76  Team win percentage without him starting 75.00 (won 6/8)
2015/16     Started 31 won 3 drawn 6 lost 23 win percentage 9.67 Team win percentage without him starting 00.00 (won 0/7)
2014/15     Started 25 won 7 drawn 4 lost 14 win percentage 28.00 Team win percentage without him starting 23.07 (won 3/13)
2013/14     Started 35 won 8 drawn 8 lost 19 win percentage 22.85 Team win percentage without him starting 66.00 (won 2/3)


Total started 108 won 20 drawn 27 lost 61 win percentage 18.51 Team win percentage without him starting 29.26 (11/31)

Disclaimer: I'm not a Westwood fan. I just find this type of individual player games win/lost stats totally meaningless, unless you compare with the stats of the other players - other midfielders, at the very least.

And even then, there's too many variables. Manager getting the gameplan totally wrong, keeper/defence or referee/lino f*ckups, attackers missing a sitter, quality/recent form of the opposition in the games a player is benched / injured vs when he's starting, and so on.

Looking at those stats, you could say that Westwood was the most important player at the club in 2015/16. After all, we didn't win a single game last season without him starting...