SHA 1 Aston Villa 1 Post match thread.

[chrisw1]

They really dislike us a lot more than we care about them.

We really don't care about them, that's why we have a 1142 page thread about them on this very website.

Yep, despite what we like to think for many the obsession goes both ways.  There's are also twats both sides of the fence as well I'm afraid.  You've only got to think back to that 'north Birmingham' Billy Big-bollocks poster who genuinely thought his neanderthal support was the heart and soul of the club.

I do find some of the Blues support very thuggish (friend of mine and his 13 year old son got sworn and spat at) but don't doubt we have our own morons.

[SoccerHQ]

apart from when the noses scored , don't you think they were rather subdued.

Very. As I said they were silent first half after the first 10-15 minutes, then piped up for 5-10 minutes after their goal and then back to near silence. The atmosphere was very flat and not at all intimidating from either side. I said it was the quietest away end we have had anywhere in the last 10 years and I stand by that, we were dreadful. The atmosphere was miles better from both sides in the cup game at VP last season, just shows what a difference kick off time and booze makes.

Both sides look rather silly after bigging our derby up and telling the rest of the country how fiery and fierce it is. All I've seen on Twitter and all I've had people saying to me today is how poor it was, there was no edge, atmosphere was crap etc.

Dodgy opinion alert: It's better in the premier league.

I just feel like we're slumming it at their level, their division and as we've seen already there's little mainstream press coverage of this league.

Probably helped aswell as we'd usually be in the right end of the league and SHA would play us for scrapping for points to stay up...Sunday just looked like two mid table teams who could well miss out on the top 6.

[SoccerHQ]

Yesterday on my way back from Wembley Central station to catch a train back to Birmingham, after NFL match. A bluenose was talking/ranting to me moaning about Villa. I don't even let him know I am a Villa fan. A normal person would be talking about the NFL match we have seen.

Most men think about sex more than anything else throughout a normal day.  Imagine being one of these divs, thinking constantly about Villa from the minute they awake. 

I couldn't have named one single player of theirs before last Friday when I watched them play Burton.  Do they not understand how utterly insignificant they are?  Nobody is interested in them and their crummy little football team.

Including at least one of their supporters by the sound of it. Or did he think their cup final was being played at Wembley?

A good friend of mine who's a bluenose went to the NFL. He's fallen a bit out of love with SHA in recent times mainly with Carson Yeung involvement....had a season ticket right through his teenage years.

Claimed he got the NFL tickets in January so could be that.

[Risso]

A facebook friend who is from a 100% rugby household (husband is a coach, both sons play at a decent standard in Leicester) summed it up perfectly for me yesterday when she (as part of a family full of noses) was fed up of the vile posts full of bad langauge and abuse from blues fans that had been going for about a week and found it interesting that her Villa, Leicester, Man U, etc supporting friends never posted stuff like it.  Someone (who turned out to be her aunt) replied saying it was just football bants that 'the egg-chasing homos' don't understand and she then couldn't understand why my friend was insulted by that.

This is why I get so frustrated when you get Villa fans talking about it like it's a big game to us and singing about them during matches, they're the nasty little club from down the road which has a massive inferiority complex and with a section of fans who think beating up some villa will somehow improve that. I accept the baggies as a proper derby (although because it was a game that was played so rarely when I was growing up I still don't see it as all that big a deal) but I'll never be able to see Blues as a rival.

I think it's different if you don't live in or near Brum, and are therefore not exposed to working with any of them.  I haven't lived in Birmingham for over 20 years, and in that time of living and working all over the place, I think I've encountered one Blues fan.  They are just a small, completely irrelevant nothingness of a club.  I've met more Cochester United fans in that time than I have Blues.

[SoccerHQ]

Didn't go on Sunday, but the locking the tactic of locking the away fans up is rough. I've been in that twice and it is about 90 minutes of annoyance, nuisance and frustration, while you're paraded around Digbeth like a naughty school child. They may as well just make it coach only.

No interest in doing SHA away but yeah after reading and watching the way the police deal with this...I honestly think if I ever went to this I'd rather sit on my hands in the Home end.

[QuintonVilla]

The thing is, there was virtually no trouble so the police and clubs will continue with the ridiculous reduced away allocations for both sides. Small Heath fans can also look forward to being locked in and then taken on a magical mystery tour like we were.

[cdbearsfan]

I don't think they will be. Villa Park is easier to police due to having more exits and entrances. They'll leave at the same time as us and both sets of fans will be pavement dancing behind a large row of police as usual.

[Dr Butler]

I love reading the term "pavement dancing" 

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[amfy]

A bluenose ex boyfriend who I went out with from 1982-1985 has just found me on Facebook to message me 'Lucky Lucky Villa'.
I have responded 'Cursed Cursed Blues'

[The Edge]

A bluenose ex boyfriend who I went out with from 1982-1985 has just found me on Facebook to message me 'Lucky Lucky Villa'.
I have responded 'Cursed Cursed Blues'

Thanks for that

[Old Kodjia]

The thing is, there was virtually no trouble so the police and clubs will continue with the ridiculous reduced away allocations for both sides. Small Heath fans can also look forward to being locked in and then taken on a magical mystery tour like we were.

I don't mind the reduced allocation if it works both ways.  I have a sneaking suspicion that these nuggets will be given the normal 3,000 as our ground is bigger.

Personally, I think the coaches are a good idea.  Blues started it, despite what they say now but who cares?.  It enables fans to meet up and have a few beers peacefully and then go in and out of the away ground with little fuss.  99% of fans just want to go to watch the game, very few want trouble to break out and when it does, it is usually just a lot of posturing and throwing things at the police, rather than any actual trading of blows.  What is the point?  All that could be avoided by insisting that the away team get coaches in and out.

I'm pretty sure I saw once that Sunderland fans could only access match tickets for Newcastle if they traveled there on special trains.  It has to be better than a long lock in, followed by the scenic walk back into town via Duddleston?

[JJ-AV]

They really dislike us a lot more than we care about them.

We really don't care about them, that's why we have a 1142 page thread about them on this very website.

Yep, despite what we like to think for many the obsession goes both ways.  There's are also twats both sides of the fence as well I'm afraid.  You've only got to think back to that 'north Birmingham' Billy Big-bollocks poster who genuinely thought his neanderthal support was the heart and soul of the club.

I do find some of the Blues support very thuggish (friend of mine and his 13 year old son got sworn and spat at) but don't doubt we have our own morons.

We definitely do, we're far from perfect. But their support has more than most, and this game brings out that thuggish element in them like no other. Glad it's over, I hate going to their place and hopefully we can go up this season and not face them for a long, long time.

[Clampy]

They really dislike us a lot more than we care about them.

We really don't care about them, that's why we have a 1142 page thread about them on this very website.

The difference is that's just one thread that has run up that many posts over the course of 7 years. They probably start a new thread about us every day.

[tomd2103]

The thing is, there was virtually no trouble so the police and clubs will continue with the ridiculous reduced away allocations for both sides. Small Heath fans can also look forward to being locked in and then taken on a magical mystery tour like we were.

I don't mind the reduced allocation if it works both ways.  I have a sneaking suspicion that these nuggets will be given the normal 3,000 as our ground is bigger.

Personally, I think the coaches are a good idea.  Blues started it, despite what they say now but who cares?.  It enables fans to meet up and have a few beers peacefully and then go in and out of the away ground with little fuss.  99% of fans just want to go to watch the game, very few want trouble to break out and when it does, it is usually just a lot of posturing and throwing things at the police, rather than any actual trading of blows.  What is the point?  All that could be avoided by insisting that the away team get coaches in and out.

I'm pretty sure I saw once that Sunderland fans could only access match tickets for Newcastle if they traveled there on special trains.  It has to be better than a long lock in, followed by the scenic walk back into town via Duddleston?

Cardiff and Swansea employ a similar scheme when they play each other, but use coaches. 

[Chico Hamilton III]

My neighbour had to do this a few years ago

http://www.offthepost.info/blog/2009/05/millwall-have-a-new-ticket-office-a-motorway-service-station-on-m1/