SHA 1 Aston Villa 1 Post match thread.

[castlefields_villan]

Apologies if this has already been discussed but speaking as a TV watcher on Sunday :

At the time there seemed to be a big hoo hah as to whether Donaldson's header was in (which it wasn't - only 3/4 of the ball at the most was behind the line!)  However, did anyone else think he was offside anyway - I muttered offside to myself as he headed, but have I missed something because I've not heard anyone mention it, either after the game on tv or on here.

Couldn't tell as I was behind the goal, but I did it look to me that Adomah was pushed from behind at the other end when he broke away straight after. How did that look on tele? And was it inside the box? Either a penalty or them down to 10 men if outside the box if he was.

It was outside the box, and it was the keeper who came out and clattered him without touching the ball, so yes they were very lucky the ref gave nothing at all.

That's right it was outside the area, however it was a reckless challenge by their keeper.  I know it was hardly as diabolical, but my first reaction was to think of that awful physical attack by Schmacker on Batiston in the 1982 France v West Germany WCSF.

[nigel]

Apologies if this has already been discussed but speaking as a TV watcher on Sunday :

At the time there seemed to be a big hoo hah as to whether Donaldson's header was in (which it wasn't - only 3/4 of the ball at the most was behind the line!)  However, did anyone else think he was offside anyway - I muttered offside to myself as he headed, but have I missed something because I've not heard anyone mention it, either after the game on tv or on here.

Couldn't tell as I was behind the goal, but I did it look to me that Adomah was pushed from behind at the other end when he broke away straight after. How did that look on tele? And was it inside the box? Either a penalty or them down to 10 men if outside the box if he was.

It was outside the box, and it was the keeper who came out and clattered him without touching the ball, so yes they were very lucky the ref gave nothing at all.

That's right it was outside the area, however it was a reckless challenge by their keeper.  I know it was hardly as diabolical, but my first reaction was to think of that awful physical attack by Schmacker on Batiston in the 1982 France v West Germany WCSF.

And you know that Mike Dean wouldn't have done a thing if it had been.

Books Amavi for his 2nd minute challenge then Gleeson get away with a similar one, Shotton gets away with kneeing Kodjia, but books their guy for taking his shirt off after scoring (yes, I know)

[tomd2103]

Apologies if this has already been discussed but speaking as a TV watcher on Sunday :

At the time there seemed to be a big hoo hah as to whether Donaldson's header was in (which it wasn't - only 3/4 of the ball at the most was behind the line!)  However, did anyone else think he was offside anyway - I muttered offside to myself as he headed, but have I missed something because I've not heard anyone mention it, either after the game on tv or on here.

Couldn't tell as I was behind the goal, but I did it look to me that Adomah was pushed from behind at the other end when he broke away straight after. How did that look on tele? And was it inside the box? Either a penalty or them down to 10 men if outside the box if he was.

It was outside the box, and it was the keeper who came out and clattered him without touching the ball, so yes they were very lucky the ref gave nothing at all.

That's right it was outside the area, however it was a reckless challenge by their keeper.  I know it was hardly as diabolical, but my first reaction was to think of that awful physical attack by Schmacker on Batiston in the 1982 France v West Germany WCSF.

And you know that Mike Dean wouldn't have done a thing if it had been.

Books Amavi for his 2nd minute challenge then Gleeson get away with a similar one, Shotton gets away with kneeing Kodjia, but books their guy for taking his shirt off after scoring (yes, I know)

It was a poor free kick by McCormack, bug I'm still trying to work out why Dean gave a foul right at the end.  It was almost as if his mind had been made up that it would end a draw.

[Neil Hawkes]

A facebook friend who is from a 100% rugby household (husband is a coach, both sons play at a decent standard in Leicester) summed it up perfectly for me yesterday when she (as part of a family full of noses) was fed up of the vile posts full of bad langauge and abuse from blues fans that had been going for about a week and found it interesting that her Villa, Leicester, Man U, etc supporting friends never posted stuff like it.  Someone (who turned out to be her aunt) replied saying it was just football bants that 'the egg-chasing homos' don't understand and she then couldn't understand why my friend was insulted by that.

This is why I get so frustrated when you get Villa fans talking about it like it's a big game to us and singing about them during matches, they're the nasty little club from down the road which has a massive inferiority complex and with a section of fans who think beating up some villa will somehow improve that. I accept the baggies as a proper derby (although because it was a game that was played so rarely when I was growing up I still don't see it as all that big a deal) but I'll never be able to see Blues as a rival.

I think it's different if you don't live in or near Brum, and are therefore not exposed to working with any of them.  I haven't lived in Birmingham for over 20 years, and in that time of living and working all over the place, I think I've encountered one Blues fan.  They are just a small, completely irrelevant nothingness of a club.  I've met more Cochester United fans in that time than I have Blues.

I had the misfortune of the only social drinking club in Doha, Qatar, being owned by 2 blues brothers, (not the musical variety!); made even worse when all the beer mats were printed copies of the infamous Dublin/Savage match. Normally they were OK but when it came to Villa/ Blues matches the banter always got a bit tasty.
What made it more interesting was their sister and brother in law were both Villa fans; we all had a good laugh most times but I didn't enjoy our derby matches.

[dave.woodhall]

One thing I've noticed about that lot is that their response seems to change en masse. One says they Bear The City's Name, they all start saying it. Last season Rowett bemoaned their lack of resources compared to us, now it's their default setting.

[Legion]

Birmingham City v Aston Villa: Fan 'pushed over by police'

A video appearing to show police officers pushing a football fan to the floor is being investigated.
The footage was recorded as fans walked home from a Championship clash between Aston Villa and Birmingham City on Sunday.
Reiss Mahon said his father Rodney was set upon by officers "without provocation".
West Midlands Police said it would take action if officers had acted inappropriately.
Birmingham City fan Mr Mahon, said he was walking "calmly" with his father and brother Callum on a footpath near City's St Andrew's ground when it happened.
"I have never seen anything like it in my life," said the 22-year-old, from Rugby.
"It [The police behaviour] was completely unacceptable."
As well as hurting his elbow, Mr Mahon said his father, in his 40s, hit his head on the floor in the fall and suffered a gash on his leg.
Officers arrested 14 people during the afternoon, on suspicion of a range of offences including violent disorder, pitch encroachment and affray
He said his father, who has had to take time off from his job as a warehouse worker, went to see a doctor and was told he may have chipped his elbow.
The video, taken by Scott Findlay, has been shared dozens of times on social media.
Ch Insp Brian Carmichael, from West Midlands Police's standards department, said: "The circumstances surrounding the incident and actions of the officers involved will be investigated…we expect the highest standards from all our staff and anyone found to have acted inappropriately will face disciplinary action."
Officers arrested 14 people during the afternoon, on suspicion of a range of offences including violent disorder, pitch encroachment and affray.
The match marked the first time the second city rivals had met in a league game for five years and followed Villa's relegation to The Championship.
It finished 1-1 after goals from Gary Gardner and David Davis.

[Darlo Dave]

Birmingham City v Aston Villa: Fan 'pushed over by police'

A video appearing to show police officers pushing a football fan to the floor is being investigated.
The footage was recorded as fans walked home from a Championship clash between Aston Villa and Birmingham City on Sunday.
Reiss Mahon said his father Rodney was set upon by officers "without provocation".
West Midlands Police said it would take action if officers had acted inappropriately.
Birmingham City fan Mr Mahon, said he was walking "calmly" with his father and brother Callum on a footpath near City's St Andrew's ground when it happened.
"I have never seen anything like it in my life," said the 22-year-old, from Rugby.
"It [The police behaviour] was completely unacceptable."
As well as hurting his elbow, Mr Mahon said his father, in his 40s, hit his head on the floor in the fall and suffered a gash on his leg.
Officers arrested 14 people during the afternoon, on suspicion of a range of offences including violent disorder, pitch encroachment and affray
He said his father, who has had to take time off from his job as a warehouse worker, went to see a doctor and was told he may have chipped his elbow.
The video, taken by Scott Findlay, has been shared dozens of times on social media.
Ch Insp Brian Carmichael, from West Midlands Police's standards department, said: "The circumstances surrounding the incident and actions of the officers involved will be investigated…we expect the highest standards from all our staff and anyone found to have acted inappropriately will face disciplinary action."
Officers arrested 14 people during the afternoon, on suspicion of a range of offences including violent disorder, pitch encroachment and affray.
The match marked the first time the second city rivals had met in a league game for five years and followed Villa's relegation to The Championship.
It finished 1-1 after goals from Gary Gardner and David Davis.

""I have never seen anything like it in my life," said the 22-year-old, from Rugby"

From Rugby?! But.. They're all proper Brummies, from Birmingham! We're the carrot munchers from the Shires. I don't understand.

[Walmley_Villa]

Looked to me like they were moving on the imitation lulus....

[FranzBiberkopf]

said the 22-year-old, from Rugby

Thought all their fans were from inner city Brum only?

[PeterWithe]

Thought the same, and he appeared to be chasing a coach down the the road, probably to lick the windows but hey, if you are up to no good and get a slap off a copper, probably best to take it on the chin rather than splash it all over Facebook. They really are cretins.