SHA 1 Aston Villa 1 Post match thread.

[DB]

Sounds like a typical quality local derby in the Championship. Not seen much as been away.
It's out the way, we got a point, roll on next match.

[PeterWithe]

That was a God awful game, there was no one on the field who had the nouse to control the ball and pass it, everything was simply hoofed up the field, I can understand it from them but we should have been better, thats two points dropped.

[brontebilly]

Baker, Chester & Jedinak were very good although had Donaldson not conjured the Miss of the season from a foot out I'm sure we'd have been asking a few questions :-)

Ayew yet again the great enigma, after 15 months I still can't work out if he is a good player or one who completely imbalances a team? Answers on a postcard....

Felt as a team we spent far too much of the game too deep & just hacking it clear for Kodjia to chase, very one dimensional.

McCormack and Jack behind Kodjia next week with Bacuna, Jedinak & Gardner in centre, although I wasn't 100% anti-Westwood today, thought he closed down opponents well but the one opportunity he had to make impact going forwards he played that stupid loopy ball forwards rather than give Kodjia a simple pass on the floor.

Having Gardner to score anytime helped my mood too :-)

I wasn't too gone on Chester and Baker myself. Chester gave Donaldson far too much respect I thought while that error at the end sums Baker up. If a centre half leaves his station to attack a ball in the left back position he simply has to win it or at worst stop the forward heading it. Baker did neither leaving a massive gap behind him that better players would have punished.

Gollini and Jedinak were excellent, Amavi much more aggressive than usual. All others were average. Gabby's recent six pack photos look doctored based on the evidence of his wobbly frame today but he made a big difference upon his introduction.

Not a good day on the sideline for Bruce, awful change bringing in McCormack for Adamoah and failed to check the blues momentum until after the inevitably scored.

[QuintonVilla]

Who were those people in our away end? I refuse to believe that was our away support; quietest away end we've had anywhere in the last ten years, never mind at Blues. Twitter is full of how crap our support was.

Ironic that the noses are saying it was crap though as they'll be back to 16,000 next home game. Their support was poor aswell for the most part, they were loud at the start and for 5 minutes after they scored. After we scored you could have heard a pin drop which is when I thought we'd take the piss, but nothing.

On the pitch they should have won. We were very poor going forward and lacked ideas, there's no creativity in that midfield.

I thought we defended well though on the whole, Baker and Chester look solid.

Jedinak was superb. His best game for us by a mile.

We will still finish above them comfortably come the end of the season.

UTV

[kippaxvilla2]

Rowett is slowly becoming like many of his predecessors.  Moaning and whinging about not having our access to money, how their team show all the heart and character bla bla bla.  They still haven't fcukin beaten us in two games where 1. We've arguably had our worst team ever out and 2. When they've been six points clear of us in a really inferior league.

Talking of inferior they still have that complex in spades.  They really fcuk you off with this 'we can't compete with these big money Villa bastards'.  Just deal with it turds.  I thought form went out the window in a Derby? Which story is convenient this week?

[Villafirst]

25,000 for a derby? Pathetic, some real morons in their portions of the stadium from the tv pictures. A bunch of loser saddos.

[tony scott]

1 point away in the Derby not a bad result they won't be happy which is not a bad thing, I noticed Ayew slipped a lot when we were trying to break problem with right boots?

[Ron Manager]

If I had to isolate one thing that would massively change this team it would be to get a decent central midfield playmaker in. We badly struggle to dictate the tempo of a game and that all comes from the midfield.

Very true. Until Gabby came on, the only player that would actually run at them was Hutton. It's a shame we don't have anybody in midfield that can run at the opposition with the ball. It terrifies teams and opens up the space for strikers.

In hindsight, mind boggling that we didn't spend money on such a pivotal position in the summmer. Presumably they thought jack would step up.

I'm not sure Jack is even the type of player I mean. He's a creative force when he's on form, but I'm not sure he dictates the game from the middle of the park.

We need a player like Archie Gemmill.Unfortunately that type of player does not exist anymore.

[Villafirst]

Rowett has massive chips on both shoulders. A limited manager will see his team slide down the League come January and February when injuries and suspensions bite. Rowett obviously envious of Villa's spending power from his comments. Disappointed with Kevin Phillips with his bluenose preference - 'we' will do this etc.,

[Stu]

Rowett is slowly becoming like many of his predecessors.  Moaning and whinging about not having our access to money, how their team show all the heart and character bla bla bla.  They still haven't fcukin beaten us in two games where 1. We've arguably had our worst team ever out and 2. When they've been six points clear of us in a really inferior league.

Talking of inferior they still have that complex in spades.  They really fcuk you off with this 'we can't compete with these big money Villa bastards'.  Just deal with it turds.  I thought form went out the window in a Derby? Which story is convenient this week?

It's always a moral victory for the Blues if the result doesn't go the way they want it to.

[nigel]

Gollini - good saves and dealing with crosses. He seems to be growing in confidence. 8

Hutton - not bad at all apart from the fuck up. But it was a seriously bad fuck up. 5

Amavi - l like him but that was one of his poorest games. 5

Baker - very solid. 7

Chester - good again. 8

Jedinak- best performance yet. 7

Gardner - good goal, never went missing. 7

Westwood - failed to score when he had the opportunity, often went missing. 5

Ayew - had a couple of decent runs but has had better days. Good cross for the goal though. 6

Kodjia - worst performance yet, kept miscontrolling it. 4

Adomah - n/a

McCormack- some decent touches but tried to do too much, running into players when a simple pass would've done. 5

Agbonlahor - n/a

Gestede - n/a

Agree with most, but:

Amavi 5? Wow!!

Kodjia 4? Didn't help that Shotten kicked, kneed or whatever else every time the ball came to him.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

Rowett is slowly becoming like many of his predecessors.  Moaning and whinging about not having our access to money, how their team show all the heart and character bla bla bla.  They still haven't fcukin beaten us in two games where 1. We've arguably had our worst team ever out and 2. When they've been six points clear of us in a really inferior league.

Talking of inferior they still have that complex in spades.  They really fcuk you off with this 'we can't compete with these big money Villa bastards'.  Just deal with it turds.  I thought form went out the window in a Derby? Which story is convenient this week?

Great rant, Kippax but I couldn't help agree with everything he said. He has far too much dignity and common sense for those rats.

[David_Nab]

Bruce has made us harder to beat and defence looked solid for the most part.Jedinek finally looked decent but he is still pretty poor on the ball and the midfield today as so one paced , lacked ability control the game and do very little to support the attackers.
Westwood actually looks worse at this level as the extra physically of the league exposes how lightweight he is in there overall come the transfer window I expect Bruce to attempt to address the MF issues
Bacuna is out for 3 weeks I have seen reported so unfortunately  apart from bringing in Tshibola our options there are limited

Attackers left too isolated today and we are relying on individual skill rather than team work to create anything , Adomah going off did't help.RMC is wasted out wide and you really have to conclude at this point that spending 15mil on a midfielder or midfielders would have been of more benefit to us.

[Matt Collins]

Bacuna out for three weeks

Bruce praising Westwood

I just can't agree he was a five and Gardner a 7. It's just bias

[aj2k77]

It's like when the smaller boxer steps up against the bigger boxer, even when they get knocked out they get a little kudos for stepping up to the challenge. It's the sign of being inferior when you actually roll out size and power as the excuse why anything other than anihilation is acceptable and a moral victory.

Two shit teams out there today but they're on the inevitable seasonal slide down and we are on the slow climb up, I'd expect us to be 6-10 pts clear of them at the end of the season at least.

Rowett I pointed out when we beat them last season comes across as a knob. He talks like some managerial, tactical mastermind, who studies his art and comes up with plans for his inferior side against giants every week. The truth is a good portion of rags fans constantly complain about him and I suspect when he gets a bigger gig and has to play more than agricultural in yer face effort ball he will get found out.

Doesn't excuse us today though, we basically played with 9 men, or 8 and a moron in Hutton.