Steve Bruce - officially confirmed (as Sheffield Wednesday boss)

[ChicagoLion]

The bit that's got me is the 'not of his own making' line.

Gabbys involvement - already written off by most fans, SB decided to reintroduce so totally his own making
McCormicks fitness - initially not his fault but he's been here for long enough to be responsible for this still not being properly addressed
AAyews attitude - Ayew was our best player for 11 games, his attitude has only been questionable since he's struggled being played asa  wide midfielder by Bruce
Bakers fragility - Fair point
Huttons inability - He has the choice to play Bacuna there
Westwood being Westwood - He has the choice to pick other players, Tish for example
Gardener not being good enough - As above
Grealish Special talent or passenger? - Silly statement, finding a spot for th emost naturally talented player in th esquad really shouldn't be beyond anyone
Kodjia where to play and off to Africa - Play him up front, it's simple.  ACON is another matter but it's not as if no other manager has to deal with it.
Gollini or Bunn? - Fair point on this one, but both should be good enough to hold their own in this league.
And surplus to requirements Micah Tish Kodak - Micah no problem other than SB trying to fit him in for his first game, Tish is a problem entirely created by SB, Kozak is a guy who seems to have had his career ruined by a series of horrific injuries, unfortunate but no major problem.

So there's 3-4 valid concerns that are nothing to do with Bruce in that list.  Any new manager who comes in mid-season to replace a sacked manager would expect at least that because if there's no problems the other guy would still be there.

I'm not dismissing the concerns, I just don't agree that he isn't responsible for as many on that list as were dropped on him.  There were others that he's solved that you've missed though.  I just don't like the idea of this leading to 'poor Steve Bruce given the impossible job of getting promotion with one of the 2 most expensive squads in the league'.

Some good points and I posted this to get opimions, it does look like there a lot of pieces to this puzzle and some in my opinion just don't fit.
I also agree that most managers in this league would like to have the option of the talent of Ayew and Grealish and the goal scoring prowess of Gestede and McCormick.

[Bad English]

When can I expect the Christmas Carol version please?

Good king Wyness first looked out
On the feast of Steven
"Send that fat fuck Gabby off
 To somewhere shit like Sweden'
 
 

Well I liked it.

Not fair on Sweden. Make it Swindon.

[brontebilly]

The stuff on other threads got me thinking, has a Villa manager had so many problems that were not of his own making?
Gabbys involvement
McCormicks fitness
AAyews attitude
Bakers fragility
Huttons inability
Westwood being Westwood
Gardener not being good enough
Grealish Special talent or passenger?
Kodjia where to play and off to Africa
Gollini or Bunn?
And surplus to requirements Micah Tish Kodak
It's a pretty messy boat.

manager's manage, he is getting paid a shedload of cash to manage the squad with the 2nd highest wage bill (maybe even highest) in the division

many of the above are proven performers at this level

im expecting playoffs at a minimum, which Bruce is probably on track for to be fair

im concerned about the performances under Bruce, I dont see us going on a run of winning games currently

[mr underhill]

 but haven't we won more games since he arrived than in the previous two years? It might not be too pretty at times but we are a lot more competitive than we were under the previous incumbent.

[brian green]

That is why we used to hate him.  He would win against us.

[Chris Jameson]

Gary Gardner is the new Kieran Clarke.

[Matt Collins]

Just wait until we sign Conor Houlihane

[peter w]

That is why we used to hate him.  He would win against us.

often

[CT Villan]

Dear Santa,

All I want for Christmas is for Steve Bruce to allow an interviewer to get to the end of their question before he interrupts them...I've been a good boy all year, thanks.

[olaftab]

Gary Gardner is the new Kieran Clarke.

But not Ciaran Clark!

[villan from luton]

We have improved, but think the chairman and his backing staff will back Bruce in the transfer window

[Chris Jameson]

Gary Gardner is the new Kieran Clarke.

But not Ciaran Clark!

Err...

[usav]

Dear Santa,

All I want for Christmas is for Steve Bruce to allow an interviewer to get to the end of their question before he interrupts them...I've been a good boy all year, thanks.

Agreed, that's an annoying trait.

[Villa Lew]

Dear Santa,

All I want for Christmas is for Steve Bruce to allow an interviewer to get to the end of their question before he interrupts them...I've been a good boy all year, thanks.

Agreed, that's an annoying trait.

At least you can understand what he is talking about and he talks sense, unlike a certain scottish manager we had in charge of us.

[eamonn]

Does he interrupt a lot? I've not noticed it, probably as he has quite a gentle voice.