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Offline auntiesledd

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #2910 on: October 10, 2016, 10:51:38 PM »
Chris Hughton would have been the best choice - a bit of the old and a bit of the new - and has a record for building promotion teams and teams that stick in the Prem.

I agree, but he's far too experienced & sensible to chuck in what he's got goin' on down here to take a mad punt on us. And who could possibly blame him?
« Last Edit: October 10, 2016, 10:55:29 PM by auntiesledd »

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #2911 on: October 10, 2016, 11:22:45 PM »
Is this that lot.com?

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #2912 on: October 10, 2016, 11:23:52 PM »
If it's Sean Dyce I would be a lot more excited. I just can't see him dropping down at this current time though.
Why? What's he done that Bruce hasn't? I really don't get the hype.

I think Dyche is still seen as up and coming despite being a manager for about 6 years now whereas the worry is Bruce might have seen better days in managerial terms, a bit like a few of our signings look like atm.

I think Dyche will want to prove he can keep Burnley up this season and then he should get an offer or two from premier league clubs higher up the league.

Edit: For anyone on this forum who still pines for the MON days (I see you waving at the back Russon) Sean Dyche is probably the closet their is in terms of managers out there who we could realistically attract, maybe not now but certainly if we went up.

His teams are pretty much always 4-4-2 with the wingers staying out very wide and encouraged to get in as many crosses as possible for a big targetman in Vokes and the quicker striker like Andre Gray so very similar to what we were doing for most of MON's 4 years.

He's shown he can work on a ridiculous budget aswell, Burnley have barely spent anything on both occasions they've been promoted, spent about 20m less than Bournemouth this summer to put things into perspective.
« Last Edit: October 10, 2016, 11:27:40 PM by SoccerHQ »

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #2913 on: October 10, 2016, 11:31:18 PM »
That's a bit ridiculous.  Pep would have his work cut out getting us promoted this season.  But if he promotes us next season - still a failure?

Yes, because if we have to take stock in this league for another season I want the team and style we tkae up with us to be a fair way along the road to being a good premier league side, I don't think Bruce can do that so for us to be in that sort of position at the start of 18-19 we need Bruce to get us up this year so we have a season to stabilise in the premier league.  As I said it's harsh (ridiculous is an over-reaction though) but intentionally so, people are only interested because he has 4 promotions to his name so he has to be judged solely on that basis.  Yes we're struggling a little but 4-5 wins on the trot and we're back in the mix for the play-offs, if he can't manage that between now and Christmas (and decent results outside that spell) with a squad that is, regardless of position, one of the 2-3 strongest in the league then he isn't the 'safe pair of hands' that so many see him to be.

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #2914 on: October 10, 2016, 11:34:44 PM »
I get quite excited at the thought of 5 wins in a season!

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #2915 on: October 10, 2016, 11:44:20 PM »
If it's Sean Dyce I would be a lot more excited. I just can't see him dropping down at this current time though.
Why? What's he done that Bruce hasn't? I really don't get the hype.

I think Dyche is still seen as up and coming despite being a manager for about 6 years now whereas the worry is Bruce might have seen better days in managerial terms, a bit like a few of our signings look like atm.

I think Dyche will want to prove he can keep Burnley up this season and then he should get an offer or two from premier league clubs higher up the league.

Edit: For anyone on this forum who still pines for the MON days (I see you waving at the back Russon) Sean Dyche is probably the closet their is in terms of managers out there who we could realistically attract, maybe not now but certainly if we went up.

His teams are pretty much always 4-4-2 with the wingers staying out very wide and encouraged to get in as many crosses as possible for a big targetman in Vokes and the quicker striker like Andre Gray so very similar to what we were doing for most of MON's 4 years.

He's shown he can work on a ridiculous budget aswell, Burnley have barely spent anything on both occasions they've been promoted, spent about 20m less than Bournemouth this summer to put things into perspective.

Seen Burnleh v Arsenal a few weeks back and it was as turgid as anything MON or Lambert could have drawn up. 

Their main method of attack was the big hoof into Vokes' general direction or the odd cross from Lowton.

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #2916 on: October 10, 2016, 11:51:19 PM »
It does make me laugh to see Dyche eulogized by some relative to Bruce while his record in management isn't as good as the latter. And his football can hardly be described anything other than industrial. What he has done well is achieved what he has on the resources afforded to him, but how is that any different to Bruce? Especially in getting sides promoted. Where Bruce really fucked up is in the one time in his career he got money and he purchased a load of duffers at Sunderland. But in a straight debate between Dyche and Bruce I don't see how the former is anything special compared to Bruce.

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #2917 on: October 10, 2016, 11:51:44 PM »
I know Dyche is something of a flavour of the month, but I see him as very similar to Bruce or Moyes. Which could be taken as a compliment, of course, as well as a criticism.

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #2918 on: October 11, 2016, 12:03:34 AM »
Plus, as someone said on here, he speaks like he's ingesting a box of fags.

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #2919 on: October 11, 2016, 12:24:19 AM »
More it gets close, more I think Bruce is the right man for the job. He has the experience to cope with the madness of this place. Anyone young and showing potential will be chewed up and spat out.

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #2920 on: October 11, 2016, 12:25:07 AM »
According to five live the panel have now recommended one candidate for approval by the Doctor within the next 24 hours.

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #2921 on: October 11, 2016, 12:29:45 AM »
Murphy is talking about a name 'under the radar' so, bearing in mind, Wagner, Dyche and co were linked with it early on, you do wonder if it is going to be to the left of leftfield. Giggs, Rijkaard or another name that might go down well in the Far East.

Would tie in with the high profile candidates apparently applying for the job at the last minute as well.

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #2922 on: October 11, 2016, 12:42:22 AM »
According to five live the panel have now recommended one candidate for approval by the Doctor within the next 24 hours.

SFB it is then. It would be a bit strange to have all his backroom staff here without his gorgeous self. So be it.

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #2923 on: October 11, 2016, 12:50:32 AM »
I see Phil Neville has turned us down for a back room job. Gutted. Honest.

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #2924 on: October 11, 2016, 01:22:43 AM »
More it gets close, more I think Bruce is the right man for the job. He has the experience to cope with the madness of this place. Anyone young and showing potential will be chewed up and spat out.

So we need someone old and without potential.

Hodgson IS available! :)

Spoiler for Hiden:
Just funning ya, that was too good an opportunity to pass up, obviously I know you meant an inexperienced manager will get chewed up here, which I agree with in large part.




 


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