Next Villa manager

[Meanwood Villa]

Does anyone know who else might be in the frame if it isn't Bruce? Who else is part of the "process" he referred to?

[olaftab]

Apparently Giggs has said he would be prepared to manage a Championship club rather than just consider a club in the Premier League. For those opposed to Bruce, would taking a massive risk and gamble on someone like Giggs be considered a step in the right direction...or completely way off track?

HE HAS NO F IN MANAGERIAL EXPERIENCE he can **** off as far as we are concerned. By the way has he got any coaching badges or is it another case of his mates in the media awarding him the "been there done it" degree?

[olaftab]

And we are allowed to change the trainer and indeed horses before we need to tackle the latter fences.

Grasshopper says you lose race if you do that!

[aj2k77]

he is the ultimate old boys network candidate

have you seen the media and friends who are coming out for him, Redknap, Savage, Mcliesh etc
and we thought Sherwood had some chums

its just a vicious circle of mates recommending mates they just keep going round getting job after job on the recommendation of other mates

the old boy network at its finest

I hate the fucking lot of them

Do you think Dr Tone is going to hire Bruce because Robbie Savage was on talksport putting it forward?

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The 10th fence on the racecourse should not be uppermost in your mind, when you are approaching the first.

True but if your goal is to be in first place after the 10th fence then make sure you're not making that more difficult on yourself by only training the horse to jump 1 or 2 fences.

But Bruce has a good record, I don't get the issue?

[JJ-AV]

I'll back him, he deserves a chance and I'm sure he's a good bloke. But what a shite appointment.

[django]

I wasn't inspired by Houllier but thought he would steady the ship. Experienced at the highest levels. But he was useless.

I thought Mcleish would be useless. He was.

I thought Lambert would be great for us. An up and coming British manager who had excelled in the lower leagues. Dare I say he was young and hungry. He was useless.

Sherwood, British laddish, I can't stand him but maybe he might get on with the players and...useless.

Change of direction, garde, cultured European, champions league experience. Useless.

Di Matteo, a pretty unique cv, experienced at championship and champions league level. Useless.

All I know is everyone we have appointed since MON has been an unmitigated disaster. One day we will appoint someone who isn't useless. Maybe it will be Bruce, maybe it won't. But
Basing it on people's cvs and types almost seems irrelevant. I can't see enough about
Bruce to make me either opposed to it or enthused by it. Hell either be good or just another step
On the way finding the guy who is good for us.

[Chico Hamilton III]

Are we the horse and is Steve Bruce the jockey? surely not the best analogy 

[paul_e]

I think a big part of the argument here, for me, is a misappropriation of the term pragmatic.

The chance of automatic promotion this season are very slim.  The chances of a play off spot are, lets say, 50/50.  Going for Bruce is an attempt to load the odds for that 50/50 and get back up this season.  If it works then great the gamble on getting straight back was worth taking.  If it doesn't work then we've wasted the season on a 50/50 shot that didn't pay off and we'll have taken no steps towards a long term plan and still be in the championship.

A manager who helps put a structure in place that we can use right the way up to however high Xia's ambitions go isn't wasted time if we don't get back up this season because the time will have been used to do something we can carry forward.

Therefore is it pragmatic to gamble on getting back first time or to take the time to get the club right regardless of what happens this season (within reason).  I think you can argue a case for both if I'm honest and I think the people who are dismissing those of us who don't like this idea as not liking him because he was a nose need to accept that and stop telling us we need a reality check or that we need to stop worrying about tomorrow.

[Des Little]

Does anyone know who else might be in the frame if it isn't Bruce? Who else is part of the "process" he referred to?

Each candidate has to stand in the Birmingham Wholesale Market at sunrise to try and sell Richards/Gabby/Gardner for a collective sum of more than 50p before reporting back to the boardroom...and the dreaded verdict.

[paul_e]

The 10th fence on the racecourse should not be uppermost in your mind, when you are approaching the first.

True but if your goal is to be in first place after the 10th fence then make sure you're not making that more difficult on yourself by only training the horse to jump 1 or 2 fences.

But Bruce has a good record, I don't get the issue?

Bruce has a good record if you rarely watch his teams play and if you ignore the bad bits of it.

[AVH87]

The 10th fence on the racecourse should not be uppermost in your mind, when you are approaching the first.

True but if your goal is to be in first place after the 10th fence then make sure you're not making that more difficult on yourself by only training the horse to jump 1 or 2 fences.

But Bruce has a good record, I don't get the issue?

I think Paul is planning ahead for the 10th fence which is 'finish high up in PL', whereas I am only able to focus on jumping the first for now, as if we don't our race is over.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

I'm sure Bruce can't believe his luck. Despite those that are trying to put us down and talk of crisis, it pretty obvious to all what's been going wrong this season and it should be relatively simple to fix it. Despite his European Cup win and knowing the Championship/promotion with the Baggies, RDM had us far too soft when Rule Nš1 in this league is you have to fight for 90+ minutes. By buying up every available striker in the summer whilst ignoring the midfield had us unprepared for the battle. His weekly change in formation was at best, ambitious but in reality stupid. His use of subs naive. We are talking real basic errors. Crisis? Nothing a couple of wins won't fix.

Providing Bruce can sort out these childish errors and use fully his squad, hopefully bringing through battlers like Jordan Lyden that can replace tiring midfield legs, I can see us rapidly climbing the table. January there will no doubt be funds available for him. We are in an unique position of being able to outspend all and let's face it, up until now, most have agreed that the opposition are poor. Crisis? More like laziness and tactical ineptitude from our previous manager.

[cdbearsfan]

I'm mellowing. If it's Bruce, it's Bruce.

I'll give him a chance. If he can get off to a good start, and beat those c***s from Bordesley while he's at it, he'll go a long way to winning over us doubters.

[Mister E]

he is the ultimate old boys network candidate

have you seen the media and friends who are coming out for him, Redknap, Savage, Mcliesh etc
and we thought Sherwood had some chums

its just a vicious circle of mates recommending mates they just keep going round getting job after job on the recommendation of other mates

the old boy network at its finest

I hate the fucking lot of them

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