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Online LeeB

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #2610 on: October 09, 2016, 09:20:08 PM »
Forgive my ignorance but who are Bielsa and Girard?

Wikipedia is your friend, Chris.

Offline Pat McMahon

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #2611 on: October 09, 2016, 09:20:57 PM »
Spink, Steve Agnew and Stephen Clemence as coaches. Assuming Agnew and Clemence would leave their current jobs.

I don't want Spink - he used to coach the Blues.

I was about to post a negative comment about Stephen Clemence and realised I was thinking of Stephen Carr.

I've got one for you Pat, in my view Stephen Clemence has ladies lips.

I now have an image in my head of that goldfish with the big lips from the Tomfoolery cartoon series in the 70s / 80s

Offline Chris Jameson

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #2612 on: October 09, 2016, 09:26:30 PM »
Forgive my ignorance but who are Bielsa and Girard?

Wikipedia is your friend, Chris.

Girard is a philosopher of social science according to Wikipedia. A bit like Arsene Wenger but dead.

Having seen who they are I'd say they are both guaranteed to bring us success, bit like that Garde bloke we had.

Online LeeB

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #2613 on: October 09, 2016, 09:28:20 PM »
Spink, Steve Agnew and Stephen Clemence as coaches. Assuming Agnew and Clemence would leave their current jobs.

I don't want Spink - he used to coach the Blues.

I was about to post a negative comment about Stephen Clemence and realised I was thinking of Stephen Carr.

I've got one for you Pat, in my view Stephen Clemence has ladies lips.

I now have an image in my head of that goldfish with the big lips from the Tomfoolery cartoon series in the 70s / 80s

It's more the opposite, they're small and a bit too red, like he's got a bit of gloss on.

Offline Tony Erdington

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #2614 on: October 09, 2016, 09:29:08 PM »
Forgive my ignorance but who are Bielsa and Girard?

Wikipedia is your friend, Chris.

Girard is a philosopher of social science according to Wikipedia. A bit like Arsene Wenger but dead.

Having seen who they are I'd say they are both guaranteed to bring us success, bit like that Garde bloke we had.

Funny


Graham Turner now he did alright

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #2615 on: October 09, 2016, 09:29:25 PM »
Because hiring British blokes with no standing in the game outside of this country has worked so well for us.

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #2616 on: October 09, 2016, 09:30:43 PM »
I agree with every word ciggies I base my reluctance to welcome Steve Bruce on the following

He has never been a top manager.

He has never produced high quality football from any team he has managed.

He is a comfortable man, a wealthy man, a 55 year old man, living in his comfort zone, soon to have the added comfort of a Villa contract in his pocket.

We talk rightly and at length about motivating the players.  What is going to motivate Steve Bruce?  His gravy train like RDM's, Garde's, Sherwood's, Lambert's, McLeish's, Houllier's and MON's rolls on.

I once asked a manager how you motivate players who've done it all and are made for life. He said that's why it's easier to manage at the top than at the bottom. At the top you're working with players like Roy Keane and Ryan Giggs, who no matter what they've won and how rich they are, always want to win more. That's what makes them great players. Further down you have players who might be every bit as talented, but  for whatever reason, they've given up.

To make it more manager-relevant, Sir Graham said that one of the reasons he came back to us was that he'd never had a real crack at managing a Premier League club and he wanted a try. I've got as much enthusiasm for Bruce as anyone else but maybe what would motivate him would be that for the first time ever he's inheriting a load of decent, albeit under-achieving, players and potentially the money available to buy more. Like Sir Graham, he's never managed a Premier League club that has a higher ambition than survival.

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #2617 on: October 09, 2016, 09:31:53 PM »
Ian Atkins has been head of European Recruitment at Everton looks like a straight job swap.. he is a Nose.
Very highly thought of though.

Are you sure about that?

Offline PeterWithesShin

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #2618 on: October 09, 2016, 09:36:23 PM »
Ian Atkins has been head of European Recruitment at Everton looks like a straight job swap.. he is a Nose.
Very highly thought of though.

Are you sure about that?

Born in Sheldon so probably a decent chance.

Offline Tony Erdington

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #2619 on: October 09, 2016, 09:42:19 PM »
Ian Atkins has been head of European Recruitment at Everton looks like a straight job swap.. he is a Nose.
Very highly thought of though.

Are you sure about that?

Born in Sheldon so probably a decent chance.

Sheldon is nose country, is it??

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #2620 on: October 09, 2016, 09:48:20 PM »
I have to say this for Bruce, he's shifted some timber.

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #2621 on: October 09, 2016, 09:58:19 PM »
My son told me today of a conversation he had with a now retired much capped England international player.  Asked about player motivation he replied that many managers now regard compensated failure as a legitimate objective.

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #2622 on: October 09, 2016, 10:00:07 PM »
Ian Atkins has been head of European Recruitment at Everton looks like a straight job swap.. he is a Nose.
Very highly thought of though.

Are you sure about that?

Born in Sheldon so probably a decent chance.

Sheldon is nose country, is it??
A touch more than Erdington.

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #2623 on: October 09, 2016, 10:00:14 PM »
My son told me today of a conversation he had with a now retired much capped England international player.  Asked about player motivation he replied that many managers now regard compensated failure as a legitimate objective.

We've got to be somewhere near the top of the league for that

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #2624 on: October 09, 2016, 10:00:53 PM »
But Bruce resigned from his last role rather than waiting for compensated failure.

 


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