Next Villa manager

[old man villa fan]

I find Bruce as inspiring as when MON signed Heskey. Not bad but not the right type to get us where I want us to be.

I felt the lowest I have ever felt last season as a Villa fan. I do not want to have the same feeling next season if we go up with a team that is not ready for the PL.

[Malandro]

We aren't "any club other than Aston Villa" though.  We are Astom Villa.

No, we're definitely Aston Villa.

Seriously though, who is this mystery manager that can turn our clusterfuck into something resembling a decent football team that plays attractive football and guaranteed promotion?

Indeed I'm not sure how we're supposed to attract this amazing manager in our current position.

tell me chaps, how did Huddersfield town appoint there manager who now sees them sitting at the opposite end of the table to us
do you think they had more options than we do, how did Burnley appoint Dyce, how did Southampton appoint Pot, how did Bournmouth end up with Howe, fuck me even the neighbours in there sorry and dismal plight managed to come up trumps,

I don't know the answers to all the above questions but I do know they didn't go for a pair of the dullest safe hands of the most gettable journey man in the business

I get your point John E, but it's always easier to be easier to be wise with hindsight.

Huddersfield picked up Wagner after a stint as Dortmunds reserve coach. Burnley took Dyche after he had been given to elbow by Watford.  Rowett had done great work at Burton Albion, but with all respect to them, would we go knocking on their door now for Nigel Clough?  If we'd made those appointments rather than Sherwood or RDM there would have been plenty on here moaning that we were aiming too low.

Lambert was well regarded as some kind of a footballing brainiac after his schooling in Germany. For all we know, even if we could prise Wagner away, we'd turn him into Lambert mkII.

I'm not enamoured by either option of Bruce or Clarke, and would much prefer we looked to bring in someone without the same baggage, and with fresh ideas, as to who that should be I haven't a clue.

having said that, we can't say every young manager will morph into Lambert.

I'd laugh at Newcastle if they appointed Bruce.
So I cannot pretend to be delighted the spud head is likely to rock up here.

If Tony can afford £15 million on Kodjia & wages - he certainly has the moolah to attract a good coach.

[Clampy]

We aren't "any club other than Aston Villa" though.  We are Astom Villa.

No, we're definitely Aston Villa.

Seriously though, who is this mystery manager that can turn our clusterfuck into something resembling a decent football team that plays attractive football and guaranteed promotion?

Indeed I'm not sure how we're supposed to attract this amazing manager in our current position.

tell me chaps, how did Huddersfield town appoint there manager who now sees them sitting at the opposite end of the table to us
do you think they had more options than we do, how did Burnley appoint Dyce, how did Southampton appoint Pot, how did Bournmouth end up with Howe, fuck me even the neighbours in there sorry and dismal plight managed to come up trumps,

I don't know the answers to all the above questions but I do know they didn't go for a pair of the dullest safe hands of the most gettable journey man in the business

I've just got round  to replying to this as i was hanging my head in shame. Out of interest (and i asked this earlier to someone) who is your choice?

[john e]

Just to clarify, Bruce doesn't excite me but in the circumstances he's probably the best that is available. I can only remember us getting two managers I'd never heard of previously (Venglos and Garde) and they were both a disaster but I do wonder why the likes of Southampton, Boro, Swansea, Watford, Huddersfield etc are capable of finding good managers who aren't obvious and we struggle.

I know, for some reason we are  cursed we keep putting everthing on red and the bastard ball just carries on dropping in black, then we go black and red it comes up 0

[Matt Collins]

Just to clarify, Bruce doesn't excite me but in the circumstances he's probably the best that is available. I can only remember us getting two managers I'd never heard of previously (Venglos and Garde) and they were both a disaster but I do wonder why the likes of Southampton, Boro, Swansea, Watford, Huddersfield etc are capable of finding good managers who aren't obvious and we struggle.

I know, for some reason we are  cursed we keep putting everthing on red and the bastard ball just carries on dropping in black, then we go black and red it comes up 0

It's because they're well run clubs

[john e]

We aren't "any club other than Aston Villa" though.  We are Astom Villa.

No, we're definitely Aston Villa.

Seriously though, who is this mystery manager that can turn our clusterfuck into something resembling a decent football team that plays attractive football and guaranteed promotion?

Indeed I'm not sure how we're supposed to attract this amazing manager in our current position.

tell me chaps, how did Huddersfield town appoint there manager who now sees them sitting at the opposite end of the table to us
do you think they had more options than we do, how did Burnley appoint Dyce, how did Southampton appoint Pot, how did Bournmouth end up with Howe, fuck me even the neighbours in there sorry and dismal plight managed to come up trumps,

I don't know the answers to all the above questions but I do know they didn't go for a pair of the dullest safe hands of the most gettable journey man in the business

I've just got round  to replying to this as i was hanging my head in shame. Out of interest (and i asked this earlier to someone) who is your choice?

I think its easier for me to say who it isn't,
of all the managers that we can realistically be linked with or even unrealistically I would only put two below Bruce, and they would be Pulis and Alardyce, but that is only my own personal preference, and in fairness not what you asked

so if you looked at that voting list we had up before it would be ABB, however whether its possible or not I would definitely prefer Wagner, Smith , Dyce (if poss) Rowett, and a few others

yes its a roll of a dice, but Bruce isn't even that imo

[Matt Collins]

Does Bruce have more promotions than those other managers put together? I guess he must have

[john e]

Just to clarify, Bruce doesn't excite me but in the circumstances he's probably the best that is available. I can only remember us getting two managers I'd never heard of previously (Venglos and Garde) and they were both a disaster but I do wonder why the likes of Southampton, Boro, Swansea, Watford, Huddersfield etc are capable of finding good managers who aren't obvious and we struggle.

I know, for some reason we are  cursed we keep putting everthing on red and the bastard ball just carries on dropping in black, then we go black and red it comes up 0

It's because they're well run clubs

Birmingham ?   

edit, sorry thought I was replying to a previous post

[Mossie Hennebry]

We aren't "any club other than Aston Villa" though.  We are Astom Villa.

No, we're definitely Aston Villa.

Seriously though, who is this mystery manager that can turn our clusterfuck into something resembling a decent football team that plays attractive football and guaranteed promotion?

Indeed I'm not sure how we're supposed to attract this amazing manager in our current position.

tell me chaps, how did Huddersfield town appoint there manager who now sees them sitting at the opposite end of the table to us
do you think they had more options than we do, how did Burnley appoint Dyce, how did Southampton appoint Pot, how did Bournmouth end up with Howe, fuck me even the neighbours in there sorry and dismal plight managed to come up trumps,

I don't know the answers to all the above questions but I do know they didn't go for a pair of the dullest safe hands of the most gettable journey man in the business

Well said.

At the risk of stating the bleedin obvious, the pool of available managers leaves a lot to be desired.

You're making it sound like the club have chosen these 'pool of managers'.

No, I'm just sad. The choice in this thread's poll just leave me deflated.

[olaftab]

Does Bruce have more promotions than those other managers put together? I guess he must have

Yes he does and also he has been relegated from PL more often than any other manager.

[supertom]

Does Bruce have more promotions than those other managers put together? I guess he must have

Yes he does and also he has been relegated from PL more often than any other manager.

I'd bring him in and let him get us promoted. At that point, golden handshake. Cheers. Then upgrade.

[PaulWinch again]

Does Bruce have more promotions than those other managers put together? I guess he must have

Yes he does and also he has been relegated from PL more often than any other manager.

Doesn't really matter at the moment though does it? We're not in the PL. His record in the Championship is far more relevant to us.

[paul_e]

Does Bruce have more promotions than those other managers put together? I guess he must have

Yes he does and also he has been relegated from PL more often than any other manager.

I'd bring him in and let him get us promoted. At that point, golden handshake. Cheers. Then upgrade.

Except you'd have loads of people saying that he's done a good job and deserved a chance, and then when he made a mess of the summer and had us in the bottom 6 at Christmas we'd be starting again mid-season but in a much more pressured environment.

Does Bruce have more promotions than those other managers put together? I guess he must have

Yes he does and also he has been relegated from PL more often than any other manager.

Doesn't really matter at the moment though does it? We're not in the PL. His record in the Championship is far more relevant to us.

No it's really not, that's the problem here.  We signed players who are used to the championship, if we get a back room team that's used to the championship doesn't that just make us an expensively assembled championship team?

We're supposed to be ambitious, we need to go for people who are too good for us, and if that means bribing them with silly contracts then it's worth it for a year because the more we think of planning to be in the championship the longer we stay here.

[PaulWinch again]

It's different for the manager though. If Bruce gets us up he can easily be replaced and we'll be in a much better position to get someone we all want.

[Des Little]

Fcuk me folks, let's get a bit of perspective here. We need to focus on winning more than we lose before anything else. That in itself is massive progress.