I really despair of Villa fans at times. We are a potentially big club, and I mean potentially. Because what has happened over the last six years is anything but the actions of a big club. We have tried young and hungry, we have tried foreign, we have tried novices. We are sitting at the arse end of the Championship more likely to go down as get into the playoffs even at this early stage. Whilst all manager appointments are a gamble we need someone who at least we know has a semblance of knowing what they are doing in this division, if nothing else to create some stability upon which to build. We do need to stop this 'we're a big club, let's just go and get x, y and z manager from Bristol, Huddersfield or whoever. We simply are not the attraction we once were - and I say that with a heavy heart. We could be again. But, look at the facts, these teams, these fcukin teams have overtaken us in this terrible period.Wet Spam, Stoke, Bournemouth, Swansea, Everton, Southampton, Middlesbrough, Smethwick, Burnley - yes Burnley. Sorry I forgot Steve Bruce's Hull.The hardest bit is accepting that you have a problem, then once you have, you can get help with it.
Quote from: villadelph on October 08, 2016, 02:42:30 PMI am perfectly fine with Bruce. Can't be any worse than Remi and RDMs combined three wins.Well no, he probably won't be.But we need to set the bar a bit higher than that.
I am perfectly fine with Bruce. Can't be any worse than Remi and RDMs combined three wins.
Quote from: cdbullyweefan on October 08, 2016, 02:55:11 PMQuote from: villadelph on October 08, 2016, 02:42:30 PMI am perfectly fine with Bruce. Can't be any worse than Remi and RDMs combined three wins.Well no, he probably won't be.But we need to set the bar a bit higher than that.Reality check.
Quote from: kippaxvilla2 on October 08, 2016, 02:23:37 PMI really despair of Villa fans at times. We are a potentially big club, and I mean potentially. Because what has happened over the last six years is anything but the actions of a big club. We have tried young and hungry, we have tried foreign, we have tried novices. We are sitting at the arse end of the Championship more likely to go down as get into the playoffs even at this early stage. Whilst all manager appointments are a gamble we need someone who at least we know has a semblance of knowing what they are doing in this division, if nothing else to create some stability upon which to build. We do need to stop this 'we're a big club, let's just go and get x, y and z manager from Bristol, Huddersfield or whoever. We simply are not the attraction we once were - and I say that with a heavy heart. We could be again. But, look at the facts, these teams, these fcukin teams have overtaken us in this terrible period.Wet Spam, Stoke, Bournemouth, Swansea, Everton, Southampton, Middlesbrough, Smethwick, Burnley - yes Burnley. Sorry I forgot Steve Bruce's Hull.The hardest bit is accepting that you have a problem, then once you have, you can get help with it.I agree, we need to stop the rot and start to move in the right direction. SB has the experience we need at the present time. As stated before it will probably be his biggest club he has managed so far, he may rise to the challenge.
Quote from: villadelph on October 08, 2016, 03:08:40 PMQuote from: cdbullyweefan on October 08, 2016, 02:55:11 PMQuote from: villadelph on October 08, 2016, 02:42:30 PMI am perfectly fine with Bruce. Can't be any worse than Remi and RDMs combined three wins.Well no, he probably won't be.But we need to set the bar a bit higher than that.Reality check.Glad you're not Chairman if you main criteria is getting more than three wins.Reality check.
With respect, I hope that Bruce's successor - especially if we're in the premier league - is the massivest change possible in terms of 'overall philosophy'.
Quote from: cdbullyweefan on October 08, 2016, 03:10:23 PMQuote from: villadelph on October 08, 2016, 03:08:40 PMQuote from: cdbullyweefan on October 08, 2016, 02:55:11 PMQuote from: villadelph on October 08, 2016, 02:42:30 PMI am perfectly fine with Bruce. Can't be any worse than Remi and RDMs combined three wins.Well no, he probably won't be.But we need to set the bar a bit higher than that.Reality check.Glad you're not Chairman if you main criteria is getting more than three wins.Reality check.We're at the point where our last five managers have been catastrophic failures and you think we should be punching above our weight and appointed world class management. Lambert, Sherwood, Remi, RDM.. and you think we're above Bruce? Get real.What a joke.
he can organise a team ! people said that about Mcliesh who was far more successful than Bruce has or will ever be That ended well this appointment is worse than that one, and people are actually making a case for it actually making a case for Steve Bruce, I know we joke about new lows but this is definitely it
If a club that had won four games in however many matches, last away win over a year ago, spent tens of millions and have a win against Rotherham and are in 19th place in the second division to show for it, appointed somebody who got Hull City promoted twice and to an FA Cup final (HULL CITY!) whilst having to deal with all sorts of shit from the owners was any club other than Villa there would be people on here saying what a good appointment he was.We're 19th, we absolutely stank the Premier League out for years before finally being put out of ours and everybody else's misery, there aren't a lot of managers out there who we could choose from. It's 35 years since we were European champions. I made the point aboutHul being 'organised' as to my eyes recent Villa managers have found something so basic beyond their capabilities.