Next Villa manager

[ozzjim]

3 full seasons in the championship, 86, 79 and 83 points. Averaging 1.8 points a game. Averages that from here we will end up on around 73 points. Which will be around the play offs.

[Clampy]

jesus, we want Bruce because he can organise the team? That's a basic qualification by anyone's standards.

Well yes. If a team is organised, it normally gets results. Four promotions proves he can organise a team.

[aj2k77]

jesus, we want Bruce because he can organise the team? That's a basic qualification by anyone's standards.

And a basic qualification that we've failed year in year out for a good while now. When did we last look hard to break down and organised as a TEAM playing together? Years ago.

Is there anyone you've been confident of keeping a clean sheet against the last few years? I haven't I've expected everyone to score against us. We've played like a rabble.

[ozzjim]

Of the last 4 seasons that would have been in them twice, a pint out last year and 5 points out the year before. 

[cdbearsfan]

jesus, we want Bruce because he can organise the team? That's a basic qualification by anyone's standards.

Well yes. If a team is organised, it normally gets results. Four promotions proves he can organise a team.

What do the two relegations and the dismal failure at a number of other clubs prove?

[Clampy]

jesus, we want Bruce because he can organise the team? That's a basic qualification by anyone's standards.

Well yes. If a team is organised, it normally gets results. Four promotions proves he can organise a team.

What do the two relegations and the dismal failure at a number of other clubs prove?

That not all managers have success everywhere? Ranieri has been sacked more times than most but he didn't do too bad last season.

[sickbeggar]

jesus, we want Bruce because he can organise the team? That's a basic qualification by anyone's standards.

Well yes. If a team is organised, it normally gets results. Four promotions proves he can organise a team.

well dare i say it lambert could organise a team, he just couldn't get us to win often or show any attacking prowess. Even TSM managed it on occasions. I realise after Sherwood,Garde and Black its a big step up but really? that's Bruce's big selling point?

[PaulWinch again]

jesus, we want Bruce because he can organise the team? That's a basic qualification by anyone's standards.

Well yes. If a team is organised, it normally gets results. Four promotions proves he can organise a team.

What do the two relegations and the dismal failure at a number of other clubs prove?

It maybe shows that if we get to the top flight we might need to move forward, but he'll probably get us there and at the moment that'll do fine.

[The_ads]

jesus, we want Bruce because he can organise the team? That's a basic qualification by anyone's standards.

Well yes. If a team is organised, it normally gets results. Four promotions proves he can organise a team.

Weren't you a big RDM advocate?

What do the two relegations and the dismal failure at a number of other clubs prove?

[cdbearsfan]

jesus, we want Bruce because he can organise the team? That's a basic qualification by anyone's standards.

Well yes. If a team is organised, it normally gets results. Four promotions proves he can organise a team.

What do the two relegations and the dismal failure at a number of other clubs prove?

That not all managers have success everywhere? Ranieri has been sacked more times than most but he didn't do too bad last season.

That's not the issue though. You suggested that the promotions "proved" his worth.

You can make anyone look good if you choose to ignore the bits that don't suit your argument.

Alex McLeish? Got promoted and won a League Cup, won the league every year in Scotland if you don't count the years when Celtic won it.

Etc.

[aj2k77]

jesus, we want Bruce because he can organise the team? That's a basic qualification by anyone's standards.

Well yes. If a team is organised, it normally gets results. Four promotions proves he can organise a team.

What do the two relegations and the dismal failure at a number of other clubs prove?

That he can't keep tiny tin pot clubs in the top division for too long?

[cdbearsfan]

jesus, we want Bruce because he can organise the team? That's a basic qualification by anyone's standards.

Well yes. If a team is organised, it normally gets results. Four promotions proves he can organise a team.

Weren't you a big RDM advocate?

What do the two relegations and the dismal failure at a number of other clubs prove?

Yes. Same as you were a big Pearson advocate. We've both been proved wrong this season.

It doesn't mean either of us are banned from discussing the next potential incumbent.

[Clampy]

jesus, we want Bruce because he can organise the team? That's a basic qualification by anyone's standards.

Well yes. If a team is organised, it normally gets results. Four promotions proves he can organise a team.

What do the two relegations and the dismal failure at a number of other clubs prove?

That not all managers have success everywhere? Ranieri has been sacked more times than most but he didn't do too bad last season.

You can make anyone look good if you choose to ignore the bits that don't suit your argument.

Aren't you doing the same thing by ignoring 4 promotions?

[ChicagoLion]

The problem with appointing Bruce is that he is not a manager that will be good enough to take us to where Villa supporters think we ought to be.
The sad reality is that we are now where Blose were a decade ago with our potential bottom half of the first top half the second division.
Depressing !

[garyfouroaks]

Every manager is a risk. We could be getting the Bruce that got Hull/Blose promoted, we could be getting the guy who got them relegated or the guy who did fuck all at Palace/Sheffield United and stunk the place out at Sunderland  (the only time he has been vaguely close to managing a Villa-sized club).

Bearing in mind that any manager is a gamble, we may as well get one who plays decent stuff and will make going to Villa Park a pleasure rather than a chore.

There is no point in spending fifty million on attacking flair players (mostly) then appointing a route one merchant.

As for who. Dunno. There is a whole World out there, and we are one of the biggest and richest clubs in it. Dr Xia should be going all out to convince the right candidate that our current position is an aberration, and that he will provide the funding for us to compete at the highest level.

Bielsa, Mancini, the Villa-supporting Italian bloke everyone was touting last time, Girard. If we have to go closer to home  (I don't see why we do, but still), then Brendan Rodgers would be a good shout.

One of the fluffiest posts I have ever read.

Bruce has one of the best Championship records around, and he knows the Midlands, that puts him way ahead of Mancini, Bielsa and Girard. Yes every managerial appointment carries risk – but you can mitigate that risk. Bruce and BFS are the lowest risk appointments.

The problem is not one of Xia’s backing, but how the money is spent.

Rodgers would be a dreadful appointment. A disaster in the transfer market he has no experience of assembling a team successfully and is currently managing in the wilderness.