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Offline QuintonVilla

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #1995 on: October 08, 2016, 09:45:30 AM »
Brendan Rodgers has the easiest gig in football though. They'll win the league at a canter, get a few points in the Champions League and he'll have rebuilt his reputation.

Offline Kevin_Brum12

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #1996 on: October 08, 2016, 09:47:18 AM »
Bruce or Clarke?  What a choice.  It is like picking between herpes or gonorrhoea, or being asked if you want your arms or legs chopped off.

Given the incompetence of the incumbents of the AVFC managers chair in recent years, they might as well give the job to the tealady, as no doubt she could do a better job.

Offline Jimbo

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #1997 on: October 08, 2016, 09:48:22 AM »
It's reality check time, isn't it? We're not the club many of us think we are. A lot of that arrogance about our pedigree, history and stature in the game has got to go, I'm afraid. None of that gets results.

The only way we're going to get out of this league is by grafting as hard, if not harder than we've ever grafted before, and developing a collective set of balls. We're now down in the shit with pigs, and this time we're going to have to get dirty.

Most of our expectations of promotion are based on this fallacy that we're big and rich enough to somehow have a right to it. We don't. We were in such a mess when we entered this division there was no way it was ever going to be turned around in one season. If we finish this season a solid mid-table outfit, then that'll be something we haven't been in five years in any division. It will be progress.

There's no ignominy in getting someone like Bruce. At the moment we're as soft as a kitten, and everybody knows it. Clubs can't wait to play us. They all know they can come out of it with something in the bank. We have to accept what we've become, knuckle down and scrap our way back. Play ugly. Sometimes that requires an ugly, unglamorous manager. Hence, Steve Bruce.

Accept it, give it time, and we'll have a much better chance of rebuilding and succeeding. Thinking we're somehow too good for all this because we once won a cup in a competition format that doesn't even exist any more will get us nowhere.

Online malckennedy

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #1998 on: October 08, 2016, 09:49:10 AM »
if he finds a way to not play Westwood or puts another two midfielders with him at least until Jan as RDM did not sort that problem and bought Adomah instead . and keeps Black away from this club and then he will have me on his side 100 % to start with .

No westwood in a two midfield please .   or even better no westwood please Brucie .
This would be a definite improvement. You only need to look at the 2 games before Preston. Against Newcastle Westwood started, we were overrun and hanging on. He was replaced by Tsishbola mid second half and we took over with Newcastle desperately hanging on. Against. Barnsley he didn't start and we should have been further ahead but we were winning. He comes on for last 15 - cue panic and late equaliser.

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #1999 on: October 08, 2016, 10:01:51 AM »
Brendan Rodgers has the easiest gig in football though. They'll win the league at a canter, get a few points in the Champions League and he'll have rebuilt his reputation.

He's already done better at Celtic than his predecessor in the Champions League, but I was more attracted by his achievements a Swansea. Good football, promotion, comfortable survival and progress in the Premier League.

And I think he'd be excellent at getting the best out of Kodjia, McCormack, Adomah, Grealish and all our other creative players. He's made Scott Sinclair look a World beater Wayne Routledge look good. He'd be excellent with our attacking stars.

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #2000 on: October 08, 2016, 10:02:57 AM »
but he isn't as he (BFS) may well be banned
For what?

He committed no offence .

I wanted Fat Sam this time last year and I'd take him again now - think he'd be ideal for our current predicament. But the reality is we couldn't appoint him until the police and the FA finish their enquiries as there is a real possibility he could get a ban for bringing the game into disrepute - which I think is very likely seeing as he was the England manager rather than 'just' a club manager

Offline VinnieChase84

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #2001 on: October 08, 2016, 10:03:46 AM »
Bruce is on goals on Sunday tomorrow. Surely going to be asked about us

Offline Tony Erdington

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #2002 on: October 08, 2016, 10:04:22 AM »
It's reality check time, isn't it? We're not the club many of us think we are. A lot of that arrogance about our pedigree, history and stature in the game has got to go, I'm afraid. None of that gets results.

The only way we're going to get out of this league is by grafting as hard, if not harder than we've ever grafted before, and developing a collective set of balls. We're now down in the shit with pigs, and this time we're going to have to get dirty.

Most of our expectations of promotion are based on this fallacy that we're big and rich enough to somehow have a right to it. We don't. We were in such a mess when we entered this division there was no way it was ever going to be turned around in one season. If we finish this season a solid mid-table outfit, then that'll be something we haven't been in five years in any division. It will be progress.

There's no ignominy in getting someone like Bruce. At the moment we're as soft as a kitten, and everybody knows it. Clubs can't wait to play us. They all know they can come out of it with something in the bank. We have to accept what we've become, knuckle down and scrap our way back. Play ugly. Sometimes that requires an ugly, unglamorous manager. Hence, Steve Bruce.

Accept it, give it time, and we'll have a much better chance of rebuilding and succeeding. Thinking we're somehow too good for all this because we once won a cup in a competition format that doesn't even exist any more will get us nowhere.




I agree with a lot of that, we will stand a much better chance if we all get behind the team.

Offline cdbearsfan

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #2003 on: October 08, 2016, 10:06:57 AM »
The team enjoyed pretty much unwavering support in the first few games of the season and were still shite.

If having a loud, vocal support made any difference then Arsenal would be in the Conference and Barcelona would be in Catalan League 5.

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #2004 on: October 08, 2016, 10:07:25 AM »
But, Jimbo, why can Boro get Karanka, Bournemouth get Howe, god damn Wolves get Walter Zenga, and everyone else can restructure their clubs and make something of themselves in the Championship, but we have to do the whole back-to-basics thing again? It was being too basic that got us in this mess - I don't know why it's what we think will get us out of it.

Offline Kevin_Brum12

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #2005 on: October 08, 2016, 10:08:10 AM »
but he isn't as he (BFS) may well be banned
For what?

He committed no offence .

I wanted Fat Sam this time last year and I'd take him again now - think he'd be ideal for our current predicament. But the reality is we couldn't appoint him until the police and the FA finish their enquiries as there is a real possibility he could get a ban for bringing the game into disrepute - which I think is very likely seeing as he was the England manager rather than 'just' a club manager

Even if the Telegraph story had never happened I would have not wanted Allerdyce anywhere near B6.

You do wonder though if the Telegraph have more in the tank to reveal.  Hopefully some due diligence is being done on the shortlist.

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #2006 on: October 08, 2016, 10:12:00 AM »
I am in no way saying Bruce is my ideal choice, but given the situation we're in makes sense. It doesn't have to be long term, but we need to get a stable winning culture at the club and I can see Bruce doing that at this level.

Offline croatian

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #2007 on: October 08, 2016, 10:13:20 AM »
Vote?
Non of the above for me.

Offline cdbearsfan

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #2008 on: October 08, 2016, 10:15:20 AM »
There really needs to be a none of the above option.

No to turd or douche bag.

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #2009 on: October 08, 2016, 10:15:55 AM »
But, Jimbo, why can Boro get Karanka, Bournemouth get Howe, god damn Wolves get Walter Zenga, and everyone else can restructure their clubs and make something of themselves in the Championship, but we have to do the whole back-to-basics thing again? It was being too basic that got us in this mess - I don't know why it's what we think will get us out of it.

Maybe because all the other clubs you mentioned are or were in a bit more of a stable position than we are right now. We've taken enough gambles recently and it's not worked out very well.

 


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