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Online andyh

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #1650 on: October 06, 2016, 12:09:09 PM »
Whoever the new bloke is,I'd love him to have an immediate impact and for us to have that 'new manager bounce'.

Bloody hell, we have enough chances at it over the years, and it's never happened to us.

Offline PeterWithesShin

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #1651 on: October 06, 2016, 12:16:46 PM »
We had a decent bounce under Sherwood. After losing the first 2 we went on a run of W7 D1 L3.

Offline not3bad

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #1652 on: October 06, 2016, 12:22:22 PM »
It's looking like Clarke will be in charge for the Wolves match anyway.

Offline oldhill_avfc

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #1653 on: October 06, 2016, 12:22:46 PM »
3 to 2.. err? Get Tommy Doc back.

Did the Doc get us promoted?  probably missing something

Offline WarszaVillan

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #1654 on: October 06, 2016, 12:24:24 PM »
If we get a good win against Wolves under Clarke then he may stand a good chance. How come his name's not on the poll?

Offline Rioch is King

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #1655 on: October 06, 2016, 12:31:55 PM »
If we get a good win against Wolves under Clarke then he may stand a good chance. How come his name's not on the poll?

If it was my call... my money... i'd be very tempted to give Clarke a go for a few games to see what the player reaction/results would be like... bottling it a bit maybe but the alternatives are a bit risky/boring

Offline darren woolley

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #1656 on: October 06, 2016, 12:37:46 PM »
I've voted for Bruce I reckon he could get us up.

Offline Bottom Right 89

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #1657 on: October 06, 2016, 12:54:16 PM »
At the start of the season I thought we were in safe hands with RDM and Steve Clarke but this run of results now has me doubting what Clarke actually does on the training field - we are unfit, unorganised in defence and our set pieces are attrocious. I think he is as culpable as Di Matteo for this seasons abysmal start, it's a no from me.


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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #1658 on: October 06, 2016, 12:54:18 PM »
I reckon he could keep us up.

Offline QuintonVilla

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #1659 on: October 06, 2016, 01:04:23 PM »
I think it's looking like it will be Bruce or Wagner.

Bruce would be the safe and sensible option. He's tried and trusted in this division, would sort the defence out and would get us up the league. Downsides being the Small Heath links and he's not exactly going to excite the fans. However is excitement and a risk what we need right now? Almost certainly not.

That brings me on to Wagner. He would be more exciting and an unknown, but he's very inexperienced and has only managed 11 games in this league. I think he would be an unnecessary risk in our current position.


Offline PeterWithesShin

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #1660 on: October 06, 2016, 01:12:08 PM »
I think it's looking like it will be Bruce or Wagner.

Bruce would be the safe and sensible option. He's tried and trusted in this division, would sort the defence out and would get us up the league. Downsides being the Small Heath links and he's not exactly going to excite the fans. However is excitement and a risk what we need right now? Almost certainly not.

That brings me on to Wagner. He would be more exciting and an unknown, but he's very inexperienced and has only managed 11 games in this league. I think he would be an unnecessary risk in our current position.



He's closer to 50 games in this league.

Offline Brian Taylor

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #1661 on: October 06, 2016, 01:13:36 PM »
3 to 2.. err? Get Tommy Doc back.

Did the Doc get us promoted?  probably missing something

The doc was brought when we were demoted from Div 1. He said on ATV at time. 'it's my job to get the Villa out of division 2'  Great teatime viewing. Everyone nodded in agreement. The Villa went in div 3. He got them back up then.  Classic stuff. Took a long time back then. Everyone wants instant gratification now. Not least Tony Xia who ants PL riches for his investment. Playing Leyton Orient not on his agenda.

(Edited by PWS: Tidied that up for you.)
« Last Edit: October 06, 2016, 01:19:31 PM by PeterWithesShin »

Offline ClaretAndBlueBlood

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #1662 on: October 06, 2016, 01:17:47 PM »
I want it to be Wagner. I could come up with loads of reasons why: Like I'd followed his career to date with great interest, or that I was really impressed with his team at VP earlier in the season or that I've studied his coaching methods and they seem to be exactly what we need. None of which would be true.

I guess the main reason is that I'm bored. Bored of watching us fail. Bored of watching us lump the ball around aimlessly. Bored of watching us get out-thought every week. Bored of watching us get out-fought every week. Bored of the whole club drifting.

Steve Bruce might be able to fix a few of those things. But I wouldn't want to trust him with the rebuilding of the club. He doesn't strike me as having the brain, energy or longevity for that. Short term, he might get us into the playoffs and promoted. Which, don't get me wrong, would be a good achievement from where we are now. After that though, I think we'd really struggle in the Premier League.

I know what you're going to say; "Struggling in the Premier League sounds much better than struggling in the Championship". I guess, and I can fully empathise with people that just want to see us win some matches. I really do. Still, the long term view just doesn't excite me. We know what Steve Bruce can do and I don't think it's good enough for us.

I guess I'd just rather take a risk on someone that could build something for the future; something that will last and will set the foundations for a push to compete, you know…properly compete, in the Premier League. It might be more fun in the long run, even if we have to wait an extra year to get up there. Wagner seems to have that: a definite, progressive philosophy. An ethos. He seems like he has a proper plan. Imagine that?!

We keep saying it, but isn't it about time this club entered the twenty-first century?

[I should add the caveat that I really wanted Remi Garde and was delighted with our transfer window at the start of last season. So I really don't know anything]

that sums up my feelings exactly, in a much better way than I can

p.s. I also wanted Garde and also Solskjaer

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #1663 on: October 06, 2016, 01:21:47 PM »
Getting half sunk liner like villa back up was too big a job for Remi Garde.  So it will be for thisWagner chap. 

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #1664 on: October 06, 2016, 01:23:06 PM »
And if Wagner is such an exciting choice, why was he completely overlooked by everybody about 12 games ago?

 


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