Next Villa manager

[AVH87]

I think people have changed their tune on Wagner/Huddersfield a lot since we got linked with him.

After we played Huddersfield this season the comments were

'we should have been out of sight at half time'
'they were one of the worst teams I've seen at VP for years'
'no quality in their side, sums up the league'
etc.

Now it seems to be along the lines of

'Huddersfield were one of the best drilled and fittest sides I've seen at VP this season'
'Wagner really turned it round at HT'

Are people guilty of fooling themselves into what we want and hope Wagner to be?

Even if he is the next big thing, evidence suggests based on his year at Huddersfield it is in the second season his methods bare fruit. Are people going to be happy with finishing mid-table this season, and patient enough?

[markeeeebeeee2005]

In the short term, I'd take winning a game, just one.

[Chico Hamilton III]

Are people guilty of fooling themselves into what we want and hope Wagner to be?

I think so. A fair few people on here were convinced that Ole Gunnar Solskjaer was the kind of manager we were looking for a few years ago?   

[chrisw1]

Are people guilty of fooling themselves into what we want and hope Wagner to be?

I think so. A fair few people on here were convinced that Ole Gunnar Solskjær was the kind of manager we were looking for a few years ago?   

Exactly what I was thinking.  And Remi Garde, there was a huge trouser explosion over him in some parts.

But is is understandable that we hope for the next Pochettino, but we really can't afford another Garde.

[ClaretAndBlueBlood]

Are people guilty of fooling themselves into what we want and hope Wagner to be?

I think so. A fair few people on here were convinced that Ole Gunnar Solskjær was the kind of manager we were looking for a few years ago?   

yes I think that is the case to be honest. Personally I am sick of the same old thing. The club has been drifting since O'neill left and I want something different. Bruce is just another manager of the same ilk as those who have been holding our rudder for a long long time zzzzzzzzzzz

[AVH87]

Are people guilty of fooling themselves into what we want and hope Wagner to be?

I think so. A fair few people on here were convinced that Ole Gunnar Solskjær was the kind of manager we were looking for a few years ago?   

I'm wary of trying another left-field type appointment, like we tried with Garde, although this isn't quite as far over it would definitely be risky.

Only 4 foreign managers have EVER been promoted from the Championship. Karanka and Jokanovic very recently, so maybe the trend is changing slightly, but only RDM (ironically!) and Jean Tigana before that.

[JUAN PABLO]

I just want out of this league

Out of all the managers mentioned , I think Bruce would do it.

He might be hopeless in the Prem but lets just get out of this league first and worry about that later

[Walmley_Villa]

Whoever comes in and if they start winning games the club will gain a lot of momentum - happy fans and players, something absent for a number of years. A winning team is all we want the rest will fall into place.

[Jimbo]

There's absolutely no chance on earth that we will be promoted this year. Don't torture yourselves. Forget it.

If we can start building a team that looks like improving rather than getting worse with every game; if we can see some sense in the manager's team selections; if we can steadily climb the table; if we can finish the season as a team that's difficult to play against, a team that other teams don't enjoy playing, then I will be satisfied. We can push on up next year.

One thing, above all else, I hope whoever we get installs a set of bollocks in each and every player. I want to see grit. I want us to be able to battle and fight. I'm absolutely sick to death of Aston Villa being as soft as Mr Whippy's shit.

[ClaretAndBlueBlood]

I just want out of this league

Out of all the managers mentioned , I think Bruce would do it.

He might be hopeless in the Prem but lets just get out of this league first and worry about that later

I want more than just getting out of this league. I want us to get out of this league and then be competitive. To do that we need to do something different. It hasn't been much fun the last few years scratching around the bottom of the premier league picking up the odd win now and again. That is what we will get with Bruce

If that means not getting promoted this season and taking an extra year to go up while new ideas are implemented and start working then so be it

[oldhill_avfc]

It's more about getting out of this league in the right way.

The playing side of the club needs root and branch reform.  I know its from another era, but something akin to what SGT did.

There's no point in Steve Bruce.  OK we get promoted but then what?  He's a serial failure at the the higher level which indicates to me he doesn't put in place the right structures when going up in the first place.

Allardyce is the most obvious call, but he's tainted goods and might not even be available given ongoing investigations.

Far better off going for someone who's re-structured a club in going from Div 4 to 3, or 3 to 2, and balances being early to mid career but with ambitions to move higher.

[Axl Rose]

I've removed my Rowett vote as I can't see it happening. I thought he would make us alot more solid in a John Gregory sort of way, whilst improving us at the other end with the riches available to us, striker-wise.

I've revoted, and have chosen Hughton. Would do a great job in my opinion. Brighton play good football, whilst getting results. I think he'd do well with us in the Premier League too. He's not a wanker, is articulate, and I think the experience he had at Newcastle would stand both us and him in good stead.

Go and get him, chaps.

[boozey182]

I want it to be Wagner. I could come up with loads of reasons why: Like I'd followed his career to date with great interest, or that I was really impressed with his team at VP earlier in the season or that I've studied his coaching methods and they seem to be exactly what we need. None of which would be true.

I guess the main reason is that I'm bored. Bored of watching us fail. Bored of watching us lump the ball around aimlessly. Bored of watching us get out-thought every week. Bored of watching us get out-fought every week. Bored of the whole club drifting.

Steve Bruce might be able to fix a few of those things. But I wouldn't want to trust him with the rebuilding of the club. He doesn't strike me as having the brain, energy or longevity for that. Short term, he might get us into the playoffs and promoted. Which, don't get me wrong, would be a good achievement from where we are now. After that though, I think we'd really struggle in the Premier League.

I know what you're going to say; "Struggling in the Premier League sounds much better than struggling in the Championship". I guess, and I can fully empathise with people that just want to see us win some matches. I really do. Still, the long term view just doesn't excite me. We know what Steve Bruce can do and I don't think it's good enough for us.

I guess I'd just rather take a risk on someone that could build something for the future; something that will last and will set the foundations for a push to compete, you know…properly compete, in the Premier League. It might be more fun in the long run, even if we have to wait an extra year to get up there. Wagner seems to have that: a definite, progressive philosophy. An ethos. He seems like he has a proper plan. Imagine that?!

We keep saying it, but isn't it about time this club entered the twenty-first century?

[I should add the caveat that I really wanted Remi Garde and was delighted with our transfer window at the start of last season. So I really don't know anything]

[claretandbeer]

About midway through last season,sad anorak me decided to check on what the Huddersfield fans thought of Jed Steer.What came out of their forum was how much better Wagner was than former manager,Chris Powell.
I think basically he hauled them out of a relegation battle .Results did taper away towards the end.So,he did perform a good job in the short term.

[Brian Taylor]

3 to 2.. err? Get Tommy Doc back.