Next Villa manager

[PaulWinch again]

Being in the Championship is embarrassing enough but seeing people wanting Steve Bruce as manager really shows how far we have fallen. Imagine having this scenario as a dream back in 2007, it would have been a truly horrifying nightmare.

Maybe so, but our position in 2007 is light years from where we are now.

[exiled on the wirral!]

The more I read about Steve Bruce on here the more he sounds like the greatest English manager since Herbert Chapman..get him in.

[supertom]

Lets get Martin O' Neill back.


 

[brian green]

The more I read Steve Bruce, the more I wish the printing press had not been invented.

[Marton]

The more I read Steve Bruce, the more I wish the printing press had not been invented.

You like horror movies that has you oblivious and you do not know whats coming when they spring the abomination on you?

At least we can see this horror coming and Bruce for impact...

[TonyD]

Lets get Martin O' Neill back.


 

Red line. 

[brian green]

I meant to suggest that Steve Bruce stands a better chance of being Villa manager than winning the Booker Prize.  Sorry to be obtuse.  Long day at the carrot face.

[SoccerHQ]

https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2011/nov/30/steve-bruce-sunderland-sacked

Posted from a link on twitter.  Mmm. Worrying article really.

That article starts by saying he has little interest in tactics...yet he went to Hull and got them playing a very fluid 3-5-2 which got them up, kept them up and got them to a cup final.

Chester, Davies and A. Bruce in the back 3, Elmohamady bombing down the left as a full back (reckon he'd be a January target) and Jelavic and Shane Long upfront.

I'd be fine with Bruce managing us in the championship. He'd get us up within 18 months imo.

I'd be less confident being back in the prem with Dr Tony giving him 50m...but let's wait for that time as we need to get out of this league first.

Maybe appoint him now, let him get us up and a year or two down the line move him on and appoint Wagner if he's still in fashion at that point (or re-appearing on X Factor).

[KevinGage]

I change my mind hourly.  Closer it gets despite all logic I am struggling with the idea of Bruce and his people in the dugout.  I know it makes all the sense in the world. Just fear it's going to create tension we don't need.  On the flip side Dean Smith might galvanise everything and actually have the potential to have longevity.  He tweaked his side to be the better side by far second half at VP and they looked a decent side compared to us.  With our resources he might kick on.  Tough.

Aye, but Leyton Orient, Notts County and other titans of that ilk have looked good against us in recent years.

Slippery slope if we're using that criteria.

[Diablo]

Am warming to Wagner and this smacks of desperation http://www.examiner.co.uk/sport/football/news/5-reasons-david-wagner-would-11984754
Go get him Doc

On reason number 4, is that Lambert shaking his hand? 

[sickbeggar]

Well not Bruce as he's a disaster waiting to happen. Football fans are brutal in finding weakeness if they don't like the manager and if he doesn't fly us up the table those who don't like his style of play or tactics will do exactly what they did with TSM. It will be lurking in the background everytime we have a bad defeat.

It appears that you're letting your hatred of SH get in the way of any objectivity. If it turns out Bruce is our next manager, it strikes me that what we really need from this appointment is a person who can organise our individuals into a team; get them playing cohesive football - & hopefully win some bloody games for a change! If that scenario comes to pass, frankly any sodding Blose connection won't enter my mind. It's about the here & now.

I couldn't have cared less that TSM managed blose. I didn't want him but he wouldn't be the first villa manager i didn't think was a good appointment. The point is, and we all know it, was those that DID have a problem with it, were joined by those who just thought he was crap and wanted him gone, and the rest was history. If Bruce has started off this season as our manager with the same results as RDM i doubt he'd have lasted even 10 league games

[ozzjim]

I change my mind hourly.  Closer it gets despite all logic I am struggling with the idea of Bruce and his people in the dugout.  I know it makes all the sense in the world. Just fear it's going to create tension we don't need.  On the flip side Dean Smith might galvanise everything and actually have the potential to have longevity.  He tweaked his side to be the better side by far second half at VP and they looked a decent side compared to us.  With our resources he might kick on.  Tough.

Aye, but Leyton Orient, Notts County and other titans of that ilk have looked good against us in recent years.

Slippery slope if we're using that criteria.

Fair point. Would just be nice to have a manager that sees tactical nuances in the game and reacts accordingly. How many times in the last 5 years I have been on a match thread and the opposition have changed and got the initiative and Villa have just failed to re-adjust. And we can see it, watching, yet the bloke being paid 50k a week to see it,change it, sort it fails to react and the inevitable happens.

[Lsvilla]

I change my mind hourly.  Closer it gets despite all logic I am struggling with the idea of Bruce and his people in the dugout.  I know it makes all the sense in the world. Just fear it's going to create tension we don't need.  On the flip side Dean Smith might galvanise everything and actually have the potential to have longevity.  He tweaked his side to be the better side by far second half at VP and they looked a decent side compared to us.  With our resources he might kick on.  Tough.

Aye, but Leyton Orient, Notts County and other titans of that ilk have looked good against us in recent years.

Slippery slope if we're using that criteria.

It is tough.
At first I thought - okay it's Bruce let's get on with it and it'll be fine when we start climbing the table - but the more I reflect on it the more of a risk it is for the reasons you highlight about his men in our dugout and also the way he left Sunderland as was highlighted earlier.
Dean Smith has a lot of potential and I would love to see him as our manager one day but I wonder how much the second half v us was dictated by McCormack going off and being replaced by Amavi rather than anything he did ? Seems thin evidence on which to appoint him right now.
Also Wagner looks to have serious potential but 9 months in the relatively low-key role of Huddersfield manager may not be sufficient preparation for our job and some serious diligence would need to be done on his character etc.
I just hope Sir Brian and messrs Wyness and Round advise Dr Tony well.

[adrenachrome]

I have no particular horse in this race, and let us be honest we are not in the thoroughbred market, but most if not all the candidates mentioned would instill some shape and discipline into our current setup, weak midfield options notwithstanding.

The fact that Dr. Xia appointed a maverick has been hardly discussed, which is a little surprising.

[The_ads]

Got to be Steve Bruce. End of. We are an absolute rabble - we need an experienced head to sort this shit out. Someone that has managed clubs in English football and has a proven track record. We need to get out of this shit league and he's the man to do it