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Offline ozzjim

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #1395 on: October 05, 2016, 10:03:16 AM »
Harry is untouchable though based on the current corruption stuff.  It's possible  telegraph could do a story a day for 6 weeks on him. Plus he was awful at QPR towards the end. 

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #1396 on: October 05, 2016, 10:10:59 AM »
Well not Bruce as he's a disaster waiting to happen. Football fans are brutal in finding weakeness if they don't like the manager and if he doesn't fly us up the table those who don't like his style of play or tactics will do exactly what they did with TSM. It will be lurking in the background everytime we have a bad defeat.

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #1397 on: October 05, 2016, 10:11:38 AM »
Warnock can be removed from the poll now
At least until the next merry go round in January.

Rowett can be removed as well, according to Pat Murphy.

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #1398 on: October 05, 2016, 10:15:32 AM »
Trouble is Wagner bought an entire team this summer to suit his style.  I can't see us magically getting better under him until next season.  Time he might not get.  It would be interesting to see what the first 15 or so games yielded for Bruce, Smith and Wagner. Because that's what they will get judged on. RDM had 11. The next one will need over a pint and a half a game to not be under pressure.  Who is the most likely to have am immediate impact?

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #1399 on: October 05, 2016, 10:21:07 AM »
Well not Bruce as he's a disaster waiting to happen. Football fans are brutal in finding weakeness if they don't like the manager and if he doesn't fly us up the table those who don't like his style of play or tactics will do exactly what they did with TSM. It will be lurking in the background everytime we have a bad defeat.
Agreed. A few bad results and the 'bluenose bastard' jibes would come out and the pressure would be magnified on him. Trouble is he's probably the most viable candidate.

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #1400 on: October 05, 2016, 10:22:57 AM »
I'd imagine that Derby is the natural move for Rowett before he heads elsewhere in a few years if he does well.

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #1401 on: October 05, 2016, 10:24:07 AM »
Well not Bruce as he's a disaster waiting to happen. Football fans are brutal in finding weakeness if they don't like the manager and if he doesn't fly us up the table those who don't like his style of play or tactics will do exactly what they did with TSM. It will be lurking in the background everytime we have a bad defeat.
Agreed. A few bad results and the 'bluenose bastard' jibes would come out and the pressure would be magnified on him. Trouble is he's probably the most viable candidate.
BFS fits that bill

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #1402 on: October 05, 2016, 10:27:48 AM »
I disagree about Bruce being a disaster waiting to happen.

There is a real risk that if things don't go right, that the crowd will become restless quicker. There's a risk with every manager. Wagner may turn out to be the next Pochettino or Wenger or whatever, but equally, he has 11 games under his belt where you can be impressed. Its a bit like looking at Lambert from February on in 2013 and judging him on that. I'm not saying he wont go on to be something great, but its another risk that seems greater than we need to take.

Bruce offers more certainty in a league that lacks nuances and ultimately, quality. We have a lot of fire power, but we need to put a shape and an organisation on it, with some esprit de corps. I'd be confident that he'd get us into the play off spots and that he represents the lesser risk of the candidates out there.


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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #1403 on: October 05, 2016, 10:28:20 AM »
. The next one will need over a pint and a half a game to not be under pressure.

I need more than a pint and a half a game watching this rubbish.

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #1404 on: October 05, 2016, 10:38:23 AM »
Well not Bruce as he's a disaster waiting to happen. Football fans are brutal in finding weakeness if they don't like the manager and if he doesn't fly us up the table those who don't like his style of play or tactics will do exactly what they did with TSM. It will be lurking in the background everytime we have a bad defeat.

It appears that you're letting your hatred of SH get in the way of any objectivity. If it turns out Bruce is our next manager, it strikes me that what we really need from this appointment is a person who can organise our individuals into a team; get them playing cohesive football - & hopefully win some bloody games for a change! If that scenario comes to pass, frankly any sodding Blose connection won't enter my mind. It's about the here & now.

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #1405 on: October 05, 2016, 10:45:37 AM »
Well not Bruce as he's a disaster waiting to happen. Football fans are brutal in finding weakeness if they don't like the manager and if he doesn't fly us up the table those who don't like his style of play or tactics will do exactly what they did with TSM. It will be lurking in the background everytime we have a bad defeat.

It appears that you're letting your hatred of SH get in the way of any objectivity. If it turns out Bruce is our next manager, it strikes me that what we really need from this appointment is a person who can organise our individuals into a team; get them playing cohesive football - & hopefully win some bloody games for a change! If that scenario comes to pass, frankly any sodding Blose connection won't enter my mind. It's about the here & now.

The trouble is that, for some, it's another stick to beat him with if things don't go well. I suppose at least he wouldn't have the foreign manager stick that some readily grab.

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #1406 on: October 05, 2016, 10:46:02 AM »
https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2011/nov/30/steve-bruce-sunderland-sacked

Posted from a link on twitter.  Mmm. Worrying article really.

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #1407 on: October 05, 2016, 10:48:18 AM »
like it or not we are perceived as a total basket case and the object of national derision. The pool of available talent available to us diminishes each time we look to go again. In the circumstances Bruce would be a good bet to stabilize the club, given his past track record. At the moment the main requirement for any incoming manager is to ensure we don't get relegated again.

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #1408 on: October 05, 2016, 10:49:55 AM »
Well not Bruce as he's a disaster waiting to happen. Football fans are brutal in finding weakeness if they don't like the manager and if he doesn't fly us up the table those who don't like his style of play or tactics will do exactly what they did with TSM. It will be lurking in the background everytime we have a bad defeat.

It appears that you're letting your hatred of SH get in the way of any objectivity. If it turns out Bruce is our next manager, it strikes me that what we really need from this appointment is a person who can organise our individuals into a team; get them playing cohesive football - & hopefully win some bloody games for a change! If that scenario comes to pass, frankly any sodding Blose connection won't enter my mind. It's about the here & now.

The trouble is that, for some, it's another stick to beat him with if things don't go well. I suppose at least he wouldn't have the foreign manager stick that some readily grab.

That's true, but it's another stick in the end. It would good to think we'll have somebody in who can get results - so the sticks can be put in their cupboards for a while.

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #1409 on: October 05, 2016, 10:53:24 AM »
https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2011/nov/30/steve-bruce-sunderland-sacked

Posted from a link on twitter.  Mmm. Worrying article really.

I really hope it isn't him. Like others have said Rowett/Houghton I wouldn't have a problem with. I wouldn't hesitate nicking a manager or player from over there if they had talent.


 


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