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Offline Risso

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #795 on: October 03, 2016, 03:39:02 PM »
And that's before even starting on the strikers - McCormack, Kodjia, Ayew and Gestede is a top two set of forwards if used correctly rather than bottom six.

I don't even think the midfield options are that bad compared to most other clubs. Grealish and Adomah as attacking midfielders are a cut above most at this level. Tsibola and Jedinak are a cut above most as well. Gardner and Westwood are better benchwarmers than the majority of teams at this level will have available.

The only truly weak part of our squad is in goal, which is not ideal, but still leaves whoever comes in with a pretty good set of players to work with. Not to mention the best academy in the league, the best training facilities, plenty of spending power in January, and a great stadium full of fans to cheer them on if they get it right.

I don't agree sorry. The midfield has been the problem for years, and still is.

Offline DeKuip

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #796 on: October 03, 2016, 03:44:17 PM »
Serious question but does anyone on here that's suggested Neil Warnock (unbelievable I know, but his name has cropped up a few times) actually like watching football?
One thing I have enjoyed this season has been the quality of football by teams I haven't really known what to expect, even Preston on Saturday were far better than the supposed long ball team we'd been warned about. Villa have had spells in most games when the football has been good (not Saturday though) and that is something we need to build on with the next appointment - not go back to the Stone Age!
We're playing in a division where good football and good players are getting results, not brute force.
Neil effing Warnock my Arse.

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #797 on: October 03, 2016, 03:44:58 PM »
For those saying the likes of even Rowett and Wagner won't be interested in the job, it will be interesting to hear their reaction when asked about it in the media (as they invariably will be).

If it's an emphatic 'Not interested at all,' then I'm near certain it will be a case of Steve Bruce, come on down.

If the pair go the mealy mouthed route of 'I'm happy in my current job, I won't discuss other jobs,' in football-speak, that means they'd at least be keen to hear what we have to say.

If either of them gives a flat 'no comment' you can take it as read that talks have already begun and one of them will soon be making their way to the managerial slaughterhouse at B6.

Offline Bottom Right 89

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #798 on: October 03, 2016, 03:53:47 PM »
Although I'm not against Allardyce, think it's too soon after whats happened he must be a wreck mentally. Brucey has had a bit of time out the firing line, his tan will be suitably topped up and he'll be itching to get back into a tracksuit. Get it done Dr X and while you're at it suggest Nigel Spink comes back to teach our keepers how to catch a cross.

Online Chris Smith

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #799 on: October 03, 2016, 03:55:23 PM »
I assume that Steve Round will be heavily involved in finding the new manager. If so I would not be expecting a Warnock type appointment but rather somebody slightly more forward thinking. Not got a clue who though, recent appointments have left me not trusting any of them.

Offline ClaretAndBlueBlood

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #800 on: October 03, 2016, 03:56:06 PM »
For those saying the likes of even Rowett and Wagner won't be interested in the job, it will be interesting to hear their reaction when asked about it in the media (as they invariably will be).

If it's an emphatic 'Not interested at all,' then I'm near certain it will be a case of Steve Bruce, come on down.

If the pair go the mealy mouthed route of 'I'm happy in my current job, I won't discuss other jobs,' in football-speak, that means they'd at least be keen to hear what we have to say.

If either of them gives a flat 'no comment' you can take it as read that talks have already begun and one of them will soon be making their way to the managerial slaughterhouse at B6.

I've already told you its going to be Wagner - can feel it in my water

Offline Phil from the upper holte

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #801 on: October 03, 2016, 03:56:17 PM »
Clarke anyone ;)

Offline Dr Butler

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #802 on: October 03, 2016, 03:57:57 PM »
just saw something on twitter about Ryan Giggs and the Villa job....no experience in the Managers role and expressed that it gave him sleepless nights when caretaking the Manure job, but has played under Ferguson, assisted Moyes and then helped Admiral Ackbar...

what do you learned lot reckon ?

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Offline PeterWithesShin

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #803 on: October 03, 2016, 03:58:04 PM »
Clarke anyone ;)

Can't see him leaving Newcastle to become player/manager.

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #804 on: October 03, 2016, 03:58:54 PM »
For those saying the likes of even Rowett and Wagner won't be interested in the job, it will be interesting to hear their reaction when asked about it in the media (as they invariably will be).

If it's an emphatic 'Not interested at all,' then I'm near certain it will be a case of Steve Bruce, come on down.

If the pair go the mealy mouthed route of 'I'm happy in my current job, I won't discuss other jobs,' in football-speak, that means they'd at least be keen to hear what we have to say.

If either of them gives a flat 'no comment' you can take it as read that talks have already begun and one of them will soon be making their way to the managerial slaughterhouse at B6.

I've already told you its going to be Wagner - can feel it in my water

Robert or Lindsay?

Online Tony Daleys Shorts

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #805 on: October 03, 2016, 04:00:41 PM »
Chico, I don't want Allardyce, but his record is demonstrably better than Warnock's, and what I've read about his actual management methods is much better too.

I guess that depends on your definition of demonstrable. According to wiki, their records look pretty similar.

Regardless, I don't think a 'let's just get promoted and worry about what comes next later' approach is one that Dr T will entertain. You don't put the long-term management structure in place as he has and then adopt a short term strategy. I think/hope he will try and find someone who can lead us to the PL and beyond. I am tired of the revolving door and want some continuity.

I just want some wins. Imagine it... people leaving Villa Park... smiling. Looking at the table knowing that you'll have improved your position since the last time you checked. Players punching the air having successfully scored more goals than the opposition.

I'm a dreamer, me.

Woaaahhh! Steady on chap, you're asking a lot there. You'll be asking the players to actually look like they give a fuck while 'earning' their several million pound per year wage next!

Offline FranzBiberkopf

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #806 on: October 03, 2016, 04:01:02 PM »
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Grealish and Adomah as attacking midfielders are a cut above most at this level. Tsibola and Jedinak are a cut above most as well.

Tish is an injury prone young kid.
Jedinak would be ok if he had someone with legs alongside him.
Grealish is poor. Floats about, no end product. Impact sub at very best.
Adomah - looks decent in flashes. In flashes only.

That midfield, regardless of who is in charge, will never get a team promoted.

Offline Phil from the upper holte

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #807 on: October 03, 2016, 04:02:18 PM »
Clarke anyone ;)

Can't see him leaving Newcastle to become player/manager.

See what you did there

Offline willenhall villa

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #808 on: October 03, 2016, 04:14:30 PM »
Grealish is poor. Floats about, no end product. Impact sub at very best.

Don't get this comment. From what I've seen his partnership with Cissoko is not bad and he's prepared to do his defensive stuff to. He troubles defences and is only going to get better.

Offline Marton

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #809 on: October 03, 2016, 04:16:07 PM »
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Grealish and Adomah as attacking midfielders are a cut above most at this level. Tsibola and Jedinak are a cut above most as well.

Tish is an injury prone young kid.
Jedinak would be ok if he had someone with legs alongside him.
Grealish is poor. Floats about, no end product. Impact sub at very best.
Adomah - looks decent in flashes. In flashes only.

That midfield, regardless of who is in charge, will never get a team promoted.

The midfield is our soft spot , but there are other options to deal with that.

Tish is obviously 1st choise if he is available but...
You could play Bacuna in front of Jedi as a link to forwards in a diamond mid. That leave us with Hutton or Richards as a RB but I rather have that then let Westwood/Gardner in charge of holding a high threat possesive line that will link up with our great forwards. Bacuna was "uneven" in PL but honestly he has being doing much better in this division. Its Westwood on the other hand...

 


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