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Offline cdbearsfan

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #765 on: October 03, 2016, 02:46:36 PM »
Chico, I don't want Allardyce, but his record is demonstrably better than Warnock's, and what I've read about his actual management methods is much better too.

I guess that depends on your definition of demonstrable. According to wiki, their records look pretty similar.

Regardless, I don't think a 'let's just get promoted and worry about what comes next later' approach is one that Dr T will entertain. You don't put the long-term management structure in place as he has and then adopt a short term strategy. I think/hope he will try and find someone who can lead us to the PL and beyond. I am tired of the revolving door and want some continuity.

I just want some wins. Imagine it... people leaving Villa Park... smiling. Looking at the table knowing that you'll have improved your position since the last time you checked. Players punching the air having successfully scored more goals than the opposition.

I'm a dreamer, me.

Offline PeterWithesShin

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #766 on: October 03, 2016, 02:47:00 PM »
Who in this division has a better set of fullbacks than De Laet, Bacuna, Hutton one side and Aly and Amavi on the other? Apart from maybe Newcastle, any side in this division would kill to have most of our squad.

Offline Monty

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #767 on: October 03, 2016, 02:48:00 PM »
No hard feelings whatsoever Monty.

The poster that suggested Sherwood, however...

To be honest, I thought he was contributing to our debate by trying to make Warnock look better. He succeeded, as it happens.

Offline CT Villan

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #768 on: October 03, 2016, 02:48:10 PM »
I just want some wins. Imagine it... people leaving Villa Park... smiling. Looking at the table knowing that you'll have improved your position since the last time you checked. Players punching the air having successfully scored more goals than the opposition.

I'm a dreamer, me.

I don't know whether to laugh or cry !

Offline KevinGage

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #769 on: October 03, 2016, 02:48:57 PM »
Difficult to split them, so I would go for a Tactics/ Colin Wanker dream combo.

Tactics can lift the up, and Wanker can ball them out when they invariably come a cropper trying to make sense of the formers 'instructions.' After one win in eleven, ten defeats on the bounce with Tactics will be just the sort of thing to reignite our season.

Have I stumbled into Alternate Reality H&V?  Why couldn't I stumble into the one where we appointed Koeman in 2010 and we have just made the Champions League group stages for the third year in a row.


Offline PeterWithesShin

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #770 on: October 03, 2016, 02:50:27 PM »
I just want some wins. Imagine it... people leaving Villa Park... smiling. Looking at the table knowing that you'll have improved your position since the last time you checked. Players punching the air having successfully scored more goals than the opposition.

I'm a dreamer, me.

Imagine winning a game EVERY MONTH! Rather than once every 2 or 3.

Offline Des Little

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #771 on: October 03, 2016, 02:51:06 PM »
Football is a results business.  Tony Xia didn't buy us to look nice, he bought us to win matches, get promoted and earn himself money.  I would expect that, having had his fingers burned hiring someone who may be box office in China, he'll be looking for someone to win us games. 

Offline Jimmy Rimmer

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #772 on: October 03, 2016, 02:51:21 PM »
I'd like to see Tim Sherwood given a go with this squad, the new owner, some money, and Steve Clarke supporting him.

I blame the directors around him last time for the horror show of players he brought in last summer

He's said he's up for it again

Stop.

Could you imagine the abuse Dr. Xia would get if that appointment turned sour.. again?

Yes fair point. Need someone with his passion though. RDM didn't have it. Bruce doesn't have it for me... too passive. No-one else on that list fills me with confidence. Not Warnock. And if McLaren gets it we're a laughing stock

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #773 on: October 03, 2016, 02:54:29 PM »
Who in this division has a better set of fullbacks than De Laet, Bacuna, Hutton one side and Aly and Amavi on the other? Apart from maybe Newcastle, any side in this division would kill to have most of our squad.
De Laet can't play again for the rest of this season. Bacuna and Hutton are very poor players in my opinion. Cissokho is a reasonable defensive left back but not so good going forward. Amavi is very skilful but poor defensively. In my opinion.

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #774 on: October 03, 2016, 02:54:59 PM »
No hard feelings whatsoever Monty.

The poster that suggested Sherwood, however...

Yeah I think we can all agree that anyone seriously suggesting Sherwood needs to take a long hard look in the mirror.

Personally I want them (the club) to decide what we want to be in the long term and then start putting together goals to meet on the way to doing that.  I don't really see how appointing someone like Warnock would fit into that strategy because we know his style is a complete car crash at the next level up.  I understand why some think do whatever to get up and then sort it out is viable but for me it's just extending the transition phase that we've been permanently stuck in.  We need to follow a path from here and if that means taking a risk witht he next appointment and not just jumping on someone who has a promotion or 2 to their name then so be it.

Offline Pete

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #775 on: October 03, 2016, 02:55:16 PM »
I do feel that anyone suggesting Allardyce might be missing something - there is an impending FA investigation into his conduct with a distinct possibility of disciplinary action which could result in a lengthy ban.  Taking on a sacked England manager? Maybe. Taking on a sacked England manager with all that hanging over him? No way.

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #776 on: October 03, 2016, 02:56:53 PM »
I'd like to see Tim Sherwood given a go with this squad, the new owner, some money, and Steve Clarke supporting him.

I blame the directors around him last time for the horror show of players he brought in last summer

He's said he's up for it again

Stop.

Could you imagine the abuse Dr. Xia would get if that appointment turned sour.. again?

Yes fair point. Need someone with his passion though. RDM didn't have it. Bruce doesn't have it for me... too passive. No-one else on that list fills me with confidence. Not Warnock. And if McLaren gets it we're a laughing stock

We need someone with an aptitude for football management.

And that is something that Sherwood doesn't have.

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #777 on: October 03, 2016, 02:59:20 PM »
I do wonder if the club is taking a good look at the Allardyce situation. For me he is a very strong candidate on ability if he is free of any further punishment. That said he is an odious greedy wanker for what he did which we'd get by if he started getting results. I still think outside of that Bruce is the safest option, Wagner the most interesting.

Offline Monty

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #778 on: October 03, 2016, 03:00:13 PM »
Oh I agree that Allardyce can't be appointed now. Bruce is the more serious suggestion of that manager type.

Offline PeterWithesShin

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #779 on: October 03, 2016, 03:00:48 PM »
Who in this division has a better set of fullbacks than De Laet, Bacuna, Hutton one side and Aly and Amavi on the other? Apart from maybe Newcastle, any side in this division would kill to have most of our squad.
De Laet can't play again for the rest of this season. Bacuna and Hutton are very poor players in my opinion. Cissokho is a reasonable defensive left back but not so good going forward. Amavi is very skilful but poor defensively. In my opinion.

I included De Laet as he's still part of the squad. But it's part of my point, we lose him and still have Hutton and Bacuna. No one else at this level has that kind of squad depth. The vast majority of our squad would waltz into anyone else's in this division.

 


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