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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #510 on: October 02, 2016, 10:29:13 PM »
Hughton is the guy, promotion with Newcastle and was doing well in Premier before getting unfairly sacked, took Blose to the playoffs, stuttered a bit at Norwich but has done another fantastic job at Brighton.
For me, Hughton is totally meh!
A little bit anonymous, who plods along in the backwaters doing a steady Eddie  job.
Not a lot of passion, and a bit uninspiring.
Very much like RDM.

I honestly think we need a big character, a big voice and a bit of an ego.
Bruce offers that, together with knowledge, experience and most importantly, availability.

I really can't believe I'm saying this, but I'd take Bruce over most, if not all who might be touted.

Offline Matt Collins

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #511 on: October 02, 2016, 10:30:08 PM »
I don't want a wild card. We need to finally get one of these right

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #512 on: October 02, 2016, 10:30:10 PM »
Think they might be impressed with this;
Top 4 divisions travelling fans
1) Aston Villa 5,657
2) QPR 3,500
3) Middlesbrough Approx 3,000
4) Newcastle United 2,587
5) Barnsley 2,413
6) Arsenal 2,402
7) Manchester City Approx 2,300
8) Bournemouth Approx 2,200
9) Chelsea 2,122
10) Liverpool Approx 2,000
11) Southampton Approx 2,000
12) Bradford 1,977
13) Stoke City 1,922
14) Derby County 1,565
15) Nottingham Forest 1,429

Offline steamer

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #513 on: October 02, 2016, 10:36:16 PM »
Tony has two advisors to hopefully give some sage advise.
My preference as said earlier would be to bring in Hodgson on a short term contract until the end of the season.
Get some structure and confidence back, please no unemployed journeymen, (Bruce,etc)
Weigh up the options for next season, depending on where we finish.
If tony has an ambition to be top 5 in X number of years he is probably looking beyond the usual suspects, so why would a young and upcoming manager take on the job as a short term stopgap ?
I can not be bothered to look but I think I saw that RDM has never lasted more than 2 years in a managers job, and we employed him ??

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #514 on: October 02, 2016, 10:36:25 PM »
My view is that Hughton represents our best bet. Ok, so he wasn't great at Norwich, but his work at Newcastle, That lot and Brighton far outweighs it. He's tactically astute, and gets the best from his players, unlike our previous five or six managers. Yes, there will always be dissenters based on the fact that he's managed our local rivals, but I couldn't give a tinker's cuss. Just my view.

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #515 on: October 02, 2016, 10:37:23 PM »
I don't know. To me anyway, the team that went down wouldn't have stayed in the championship playing that way so you've got a squad of bollocks basically before RDM arrived. Yes we've spent some money,but it was needed. time will tell if was wisely, but the fact is it was on good championship players, not the best championship players or the best foreign players because we can't attract them (even the arse foreign players we bought couldn't wait to leave), so basically we've got the shit from last season mixed with hopefully better championship players.

 Hopefully RDM will get the mix right or someone else will but i've had enough of this" best squad in the league" bobbins or "we lost to Preston/A.N.Other how is this possible?!!" posts like we're on a season long tour to visit clubs who are below us somehow.  Makes us look twats imo and deluded twats at that.

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #516 on: October 02, 2016, 10:39:18 PM »
woy  after failing spectacularly with England should be no where near the job, can some one point to his achievements in the English game?

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #517 on: October 02, 2016, 10:39:26 PM »
Hughton is the guy, promotion with Newcastle and was doing well in Premier before getting unfairly sacked, took Blose to the playoffs, stuttered a bit at Norwich but has done another fantastic job at Brighton.

It'd take something very special to prize him away from BHA I reckon. He doesn't seem the kind of person who is in it for the money, but I'm sure he's acutely aware of how quickly fortunes change for managers when they carry the can for so many negative variables during a season. He's certainly a man that I wouldn't hesitate to have to sort out the current shambles here, but it would boil down to the contract on offer & his ambition to manage us. If I were him I'd be staying very much where he is, quite honestly.

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #518 on: October 02, 2016, 10:46:08 PM »
Hughton is the guy, promotion with Newcastle and was doing well in Premier before getting unfairly sacked, took Blose to the playoffs, stuttered a bit at Norwich but has done another fantastic job at Brighton.
For me, Hughton is totally meh!
A little bit anonymous, who plods along in the backwaters doing a steady Eddie  job.
Not a lot of passion, and a bit uninspiring.
Very much like RDM.

I honestly think we need a big character, a big voice and a bit of an ego.
Bruce offers that, together with knowledge, experience and most importantly, availability.

I really can't believe I'm saying this, but I'd take Bruce over most, if not all who might be touted.

Really? I think you completely underestimate the managerial accumen that CH possesses; and to compare him to RDM is so ridiculous it's laughable.

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #519 on: October 02, 2016, 10:53:52 PM »
Dr Steve Peters for me - this team needs a shrink more than it needs a coach at the minute.

None of the usual dinosaurs appeal - hopefully Bruce / Allardyce & co are all on the Telegraph list & we will avoid like the plague.

Whoever comes in has to work with an unbalanced squad until January - too many attackers were purchased & RDM has gone because he tried to make room for too many of them rather than getting - comprehensive group first team and back up players in the grinding roles at centre half / centre mid. 

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #520 on: October 02, 2016, 11:01:01 PM »
Hughton is the guy, promotion with Newcastle and was doing well in Premier before getting unfairly sacked, took Blose to the playoffs, stuttered a bit at Norwich but has done another fantastic job at Brighton.
For me, Hughton is totally meh!
A little bit anonymous, who plods along in the backwaters doing a steady Eddie  job.
Not a lot of passion, and a bit uninspiring.
Very much like RDM.

I honestly think we need a big character, a big voice and a bit of an ego.
Bruce offers that, together with knowledge, experience and most importantly, availability.

I really can't believe I'm saying this, but I'd take Bruce over most, if not all who might be touted.

Really? I think you completely underestimate the managerial accumen that CH possesses; and to compare him to RDM is so ridiculous it's laughable.
If Hughton is so good, why is he not at a top job in the PL or Europe?
He has been around long enough.

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #521 on: October 02, 2016, 11:01:54 PM »
Hughton is the guy, promotion with Newcastle and was doing well in Premier before getting unfairly sacked, took Blose to the playoffs, stuttered a bit at Norwich but has done another fantastic job at Brighton.

It'd take something very special to prize him away from BHA I reckon. He doesn't seem the kind of person who is in it for the money, but I'm sure he's acutely aware of how quickly fortunes change for managers when they carry the can for so many negative variables during a season. He's certainly a man that I wouldn't hesitate to have to sort out the current shambles here, but it would boil down to the contract on offer & his ambition to manage us. If I were him I'd be staying very much where he is, quite honestly.
I'd take him like a shot!
He's got a proven track record at this level and above and is at that stage of his career where the Villa job could really make a name for him. He has tactical nous which none of our last 4/5 managers seem to have ever encountered.
I can understand why he might be reluctant to leave BHA but it's Aston feckin' Villa ffs!


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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #522 on: October 02, 2016, 11:12:13 PM »
Hughton is the guy, promotion with Newcastle and was doing well in Premier before getting unfairly sacked, took Blose to the playoffs, stuttered a bit at Norwich but has done another fantastic job at Brighton.

It'd take something very special to prize him away from BHA I reckon. He doesn't seem the kind of person who is in it for the money, but I'm sure he's acutely aware of how quickly fortunes change for managers when they carry the can for so many negative variables during a season. He's certainly a man that I wouldn't hesitate to have to sort out the current shambles here, but it would boil down to the contract on offer & his ambition to manage us. If I were him I'd be staying very much where he is, quite honestly.
I'd take him like a shot!
He's got a proven track record at this level and above and is at that stage of his career where the Villa job could really make a name for him. He has tactical nous which none of our last 4/5 managers seem to have ever encountered.
I can understand why he might be reluctant to leave BHA but it's Aston feckin' Villa ffs!


He's doing pretty well there atm. He's 11 points ahead of us with probably limited expectations from their fans. Does he REALLY want to take over a squad of players he may not fancy and get crucified if we're not in the play-offs by december because lets face it, a lot of our fans thinks its promotion or bust. I'm not sure after managing Newcastle's expectations he'll fancy that again, especailly where we are

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #523 on: October 02, 2016, 11:16:24 PM »
No British/Irish managers please.

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Re: Next Villa manager
« Reply #524 on: October 02, 2016, 11:20:01 PM »
The papers think he is toast but is it just papers talk?

 


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