Aston Villa v Nottingham Forest Post Match Thread

[john e]

if you played back all our highlights in today's game Ayew would be at the heart of most of them,
He made both goals and looked dangerous the whole game

yet walking out of the ground I was still hearing people saying they weren't convinced by him,
same on here with some, I just don't get it,
He's by far the most influential player we have, he doesn't get it right all the time, but he's one hell of a player for us

[pauliewalnuts]

I agree, he is our best player. He is not infallible, though - he is at times guilty of poor decision making (extra step before shooting, shooting not passing, running into blind alleys).

The two points are not incompatible.

[Tony Erdington]

if you played back all our highlights in today's game Ayew would be at the heart of most of them,
He made both goals and looked dangerous the whole game

yet walking out of the ground I was still hearing people saying they weren't convinced by him,
same on here with some, I just don't get it,
He's by far the most influential player we have, he doesn't get it right all the time, but he's one hell of a player for us

Agree totally, my son said to me as we walked out of the ground, who was your motm, I said straight away Ayew, others looked good but he made us look competitive, at least.

[PaulWinch again]

Ayew is quality. He played really well today and a few blind alleys do not make a bad player.

[adrenachrome]

The atmosphere is always lacking for early kick offs at our place, particularly on Sundays. In the past I have often posted that our more vocal elements appear to need a good drink to get them going which an early kick off time makes difficult. 

It was even worse a few years ago against The Stripeys. The away support can get tanked up on the coach/train.

[aj2k77]

Rudy proving today again that he seems best for us as an impact sub. Kodija looks a decent forward, will score us goals. I'm not sold on the two centre backs, it's early but neither seem very commanding or have any outstanding attributes, just very average, which to be fair is still a big step up from the clowns we've had. Thought Cissokho looks decent at this level and Ayew just needs a goal. The midfield needed one more signing I think, not sure where we are going to cram in Adomah, I would have gone for another centre mid myself.

[Matt Collins]

I agree, he is our best player. He is not infallible, though - he is at times guilty of poor decision making (extra step before shooting, shooting not passing, running into blind alleys).

The two points are not incompatible.

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That's definitely true and criticism of him in that respect is fair enough

But there were plenty on here and elsewhere who wouldn't have even had him in their team today, who would have subbed him off and who were even saying he doesn't add anything

That's just ridiculous

[russon]

The brainless posturing of the modern day footballer cost us today. Cissokho gives it the nose to nose hard man act so we can all see what a tough guy he is, this serves only to rev the recipient up to such an extent that seconds later his testosterone fuelled body is bulldozing through our defence to lay on their equaliser. The onlooking Hutton will have been in awe. They're complete dunderheads the pair of them.

[pauliewalnuts]

It's not about luck to me. Not over 7 matches against mediocre opposition at best.  We have serious problems taking our chances, defending a lead and concentrating in the last 5 minutes of a match.

I didn't expect all problems to be sorted out so soon but I did expect more than one win in 7. RDM needs to sort it out and fast.

Exactly, it's nothing to do with luck which doesn't exist. It's faults that need ironing out or we will keep repeating these results over and over again.

Oh, gotcha.

This is going to be settled by a mistake or a bit of luck isn't it?

;-)

We all know what we mean when we talk about "luck" with regard to football. Prosecuting some semantic argument about whether or not it exists strikes me as a bit pointless.

[Ads]

This is actually worse than last season being terminally shit. We're shovelling sides for large portions. And then we throw it away, either through our only mistake of the game or through stupid naivety.

Honestly, we've not played anybody who borders on the impressive and yet time and again we conspire to chuck it away. Forest were absolutely diabolical and yet they score twice.

I cannot fathom why Jedinak didn't come on. RDM you have cotton wool between your ears.

Sorry that is complete rubbish. You would rather watch us last season where we struggled to cross the halfway line than this season where we have completely dominated teams. The results haven't been great but we need to stay patient and allow the team to gel. It's September 11 and we have 40 league games left. I'm really encouraged with the overall performances and I'm enjoying going to the Villa again. Just don't get the anger from some on here. If we are 16th in February I would understand it. People really need to get a grip and calm down quite frankly.

My patience wore out years ago. I'm tired of us being shite. We're the equivalent of Man City in this league finance wise and the start has been woeful.

I'd take bing utter shite in the only league that counts than being the "we will smash somebody nect week I'm sure" phase we seem to be in. Last season I didn't care. We were so shit I was just numb to it. Couldn't have careless walking out of Old Trafford that we'd been relegated, had seen in coming for months. This season is pissing me off, dropping points to paupers in comparison and it's winding me up.

[ciggiesnbeer]

It's not about luck to me. Not over 7 matches against mediocre opposition at best.  We have serious problems taking our chances, defending a lead and concentrating in the last 5 minutes of a match.

I didn't expect all problems to be sorted out so soon but I did expect more than one win in 7. RDM needs to sort it out and fast.

Maybe luck is the wrong word, but McCormack off the bar at Derby, his effort off the post today, the one that hit Ayew and bounced wide. I just sit there and think 'If that was up the other end it would have bounced in'.

Yup.

[ktvillan]

Is De Laet really an improvement on Hutton?

I'm 55 and have arthritic hips, but I'd be an improvement on Hutton.  I thought De Laet looked steady and showed some nice touches.

[saunders_heroes]

I like De Laet, especially when he's attacking. His crossing was very good today.

[john e]

Is De Laet really an improvement on Hutton?

I'm 55 and have arthritic hips, but I'd be an improvement on Hutton.  I thought De Laet looked steady and showed some nice touches.

He's definitely not as good as Hutton at kicking people

[QuintonVilla]

The only thing Hutton is better at is being bald.