Aston Villa v Nottingham Forest Post Match Thread

[l_mckay]

So frustrating after playing so well and creating so many chances that as soon as we go ahead we decide to stop playing and let them back into it. Need to start winning and fast or we are going to get left behind.

[PaulWinch again]

26 goal attempts is the most we've had in a game for 6 years.

I think that's very relevant and why those bringing up the one win in 20 are not really making a relevant point. All those games last year we spent most of the time being battered and clinging on. This season we've hammered teams for a half and then let it slip. Today we actually battered a team for pretty much the entire game and they scored a couple of blinders. If we continue this upward trend, then we're going to win a lot of games.

[ciggiesnbeer]

Havent seen it yet, Getting a bit tired of being unlucky I have to say. On the positive side sounds like we dominated again, just conceded late, again. On the other hand when I saw Gardner & Westwood in midfield I assumed defeat, possibly I am being harsh on them.

Any archives out there of last seasons Championship tables? 10 points adrift seems to be getting a little concerning, but possibly not?

On Statto you can view the table week by week. Think being 10 points adrift isn't too big a concern yet, but we need to start posting some wins pretty soon. Interestingly, at this stage of the season the great unwashed were fourth with the same number of points as they have now, and they finished 10th, so there's always hope

edit: Bugger - PWS beat me to it!

Cheers! Thanks again both!

[kipeye]

Bunn 4, De Laet 6, Elphick 7, Chester 6, Cissokho 6, Gardner 5, Westwood 6, Ayew 9, Grealish 7, Kodjia 9, Mccormack 6. Gestede 8

Scores on the doors from me. Thought Kodjia made a real impact and didn't enjoy the result but did enjoy the game. Can't agree with the criticism of RDM on here we should have kicked on after going ahead. If we had sat back and drawn-or lost, I would have said it was just like previous years. Deserved a win.

[not3bad]

Enjoyed the game today. Obviously I'm annoyed we were pegged back but we look great coming forward. Confident things will click and then we'll be a force to be reckoned with, but we need to start taking more of our many chances.

[cdbearsfan]

Bunn 4, De Laet 6, Elphick 7, Chester 6, Cissokho 6, Gardner 5, Westwood 6, Ayew 9, Grealish 7, Kodjia 9, Mccormack 6. Gestede 8

Scores on the doors from me. Thought Kodjia made a real impact and didn't enjoy the result but did enjoy the game. Can't agree with the criticism of RDM on here we should have kicked on after going ahead. If we had sat back and drawn-or lost, I would have said it was just like previous years. Deserved a win.

I thought De Laet, Cissonho and Grealish were all excellent and your scores are too harsh.

Each to their own though.

[Marton]

We didn't loose...if we start with just drawing that line at Villa Park and building on refusing to cave at home.

There was many positives to take from this game. Strikers will kill many opponents this season with just sheer aggressiveness.

Not sure about Ayew though...its something about his body language doesn't strike me as the best way to build a teamspirit.
He has so much talent, it just isn't applied at  winning together with his teammates...it looks like he is trying to win despite them.

[Phil from the upper holte]

Absolutely gutted. Was going mental at 2-1, haven't celebrated like that since the semi-final two seasons ago, just to score two really quickly. And then they score the second of two unstoppable goals and gain the most unlikely point. We'll be ok this season when it does gel but at the moment Huddersfield and Newcastle look a long long way off catching. On another day we'd have scored a few more if not for the woodwork. Is it ok to say despite only one win i'm still  enjoying this season?

I must admit I went ape shit when we scored the second. Unlucky not to win by a distance. We'll come good I know it.

[AvFc4eVeR]

Disappointing, Frustrating, Promising.

Negatives;

Gardner and Westwood cannot be allowed to play together again, neither were anywhere near good enough, if one was replaced with Jedi or Tish then we may have won.

Bunn should have done better with their first, wasn't far away from him at all. Weak.

Aly is so immobile it is unreal, every time he received the ball he froze, made Jacks efforts look in vain at times.

No urgency in our play, needs to move much, much quicker in future.

Shooting. 26 attempts and only 2 goals against them was criminal.

The Holte End; shocking, like a morgue at times, admittedly I was in North Upper and I was louder. It should be a condition of sale of a ticket in the Holte that all fans must sing! Forest made us look like mutes! Embarrassing.

Positives;

Jack is growing into a brilliant player, he is using his skill and ball retention ability to bring others into the game more than previously.

Kodjia had a fantastic debut, his ability and pace was a pleasant surprise, the only thing missing was a goal, it will come.

Ayew is clearly a cut above this level, if RDM can get him to channel his sulks into beating the man in front of him he can be unstoppable in this division.

The front players in general are starting to acclimatise, as others have said with a bit more luck, we are going to give someone a right hiding sooner rather than later.

Fighting back from 1-0 down was very pleasing rather than the usual collapse, this in a team that is in its infancy in terms of fresh faces is very encouraging. Keep it up.

Good substitution bringing on Gestede but we sat back after going 2-1, with four strikers on the pitch we need to find that killer instinct. Or shore things up in the middle as has been said.


Bring on Brentford, where our winning streak begins!

[Matt Collins]

Bunn 4, De Laet 6, Elphick 7, Chester 6, Cissokho 6, Gardner 5, Westwood 6, Ayew 9, Grealish 7, Kodjia 9, Mccormack 6. Gestede 8

Scores on the doors from me. Thought Kodjia made a real impact and didn't enjoy the result but did enjoy the game. Can't agree with the criticism of RDM on here we should have kicked on after going ahead. If we had sat back and drawn-or lost, I would have said it was just like previous years. Deserved a win.

I thought De Laet, Cissonho and Grealish were all excellent and your scores are too harsh.

Each to their own though.

The more I think about it the more positive I am

Gollini 6 (bunn 5)
De laet 7 - really good
Elphick 7 - steady
Chester 6 - good overall but made a mistake for the equaliser
Cissokho 7 - definitely much improved
Westwood 6 - not amazing but I thought decent
Gardner 6 - much better than to date (gestede 7 - must be pushing for a start at home)
Ayew 8 - brilliant second half, good first
McCormack 6 - quite disappointing I thought
Grealish 7 - good first, mixed second
Kodjia 8 - a real threat

[cdbearsfan]

Harsh on McCormack. It's his job to score and that's what he did.

[oswald funkletrumpet]

a mixed bag really, both positives and negatives

the big thing for me is shape

shoehorning 4 attacking players in the side means we are for all intents and purposes playing 4 2 4 with the two being pointy and gardner

for as good as ayew was attacking his cover for the full back in the first half was shocking but in fairness to him he is being played out of position

rdm needs to wise up and quickly

[QuintonVilla]

Why doesn't Grealish shoot? Not saying he should every time but it opened up a few times for him today, one time especially in the second half and he chose to pass and lost the ball.

[Brend'Watkins]

Harsh on McCormack. It's his job to score and that's what he did.

And that is what he should have done in the first half with ample room to do so instead of finding the post. I like having a 'sniffer' if he can sniff when the opportunity comes along. If he can't he's a passenger.

[He wears a magic hat]

So many positives for me that I'm gonna make the bold prediction that come the journey home from Preston we will be sitting in a play off position