The "what is wrong with this club" part 259 thread.

[john e]

Why is every other team, regardless of the level they play at, fitter than us? There is no excuse for it. Have any of you seen a team on the same pitch as us who looked less capable of playing for 95 minutes?

I know it's been going on for years

I thought we had some Italian fitness fella who was supposed to be the top man for getting players into shape ?

[old man villa fan]

Fitness starts in the mind.

[sirlordbaltimore]

Something that's wrong for me (going by our twitter fans) is the seemingly overwhelming desire to replace well performing players with others simply because they're unfashionable

Two classic examples. For me, our best defence by far this season is Bacuna Elphick Chester Cissokho. I never thought i'd utter positives about those two full backs but fair play to them they've both performed very well in the defence so far for me.

And yet all i keep reading is 'bring in Amavi' 'drop Cissokho' etc. Why?

Why would any manager drop players that are performing well? I can't make any logic of it at all.

Is it a coincidence the two games we've fell apart defensively and conceded 3 goals in each Cissokho hasn't been playing?. Maybe it is, but i'm not so sure. Amavi is the glamour left back no doubt, and we all wish him well after that horrific injury. But surely he should earn his place back not just replace someone that's doing fine?

Watch Bristol's second goal and where it all came from. Shocking stuff.

Until Amavi can defend as part of a unit (a pretty standard thing for a defender in my eyes) then i see no reason at all for him to be in the first eleven.

Rant over.

[four fornicholl]

All this tweeting between fans and our good Dr about players, will definitely filter back to players and management too,
which honestly cant be a good thing.

[Matt Collins]

I agree w the above. Cissokho and bacuna have been two of our better players this season. Bacuna in particular has created numberous chances with his crossing.

I've not been a fan of either but you've got to recognise good performances

I wouldn't start Amavi ahead of cissokho at all at the moment. In fact, I might pick de laet ahead of Amavi if cissokho isn't fit, until Amavi gets more game time. He should be playing for the under 23s to get match ready

[four fornicholl]

A deeply disturbing stat doing the rounds on "social media?" at the moment regarding Ibrahimovic and AVFC.
I cant bring myself to post it.

[ChicagoLion]

A deeply disturbing stat doing the rounds on "social media?" at the moment regarding Ibrahimovic and AVFC.
I cant bring myself to post it.

i think we are past feeling any more humiliated by stats mate.

[old man villa fan]

A deeply disturbing stat doing the rounds on "social media?" at the moment regarding Ibrahimovic and AVFC.
I cant bring myself to post it.

What, he has never managed to win the European Cup/Champions League.  Never at the right club at the right time.  Flat-track bully?

[Dave]

A deeply disturbing stat doing the rounds on "social media?" at the moment regarding Ibrahimovic and AVFC.
I cant bring myself to post it.

Something like we lost more league games last season than Ibrahimovic has lost since 2006?

I think that was "doing the rounds" back in May.

[Dave]

A deeply disturbing stat doing the rounds on "social media?" at the moment regarding Ibrahimovic and AVFC.
I cant bring myself to post it.

Something like we lost more league games last season than Ibrahimovic has lost since 2006?

I think that was on here back in May.

[Rudy65]

Something that's wrong for me (going by our twitter fans) is the seemingly overwhelming desire to replace well performing players with others simply because they're unfashionable

Two classic examples. For me, our best defence by far this season is Bacuna Elphick Chester Cissokho. I never thought i'd utter positives about those two full backs but fair play to them they've both performed very well in the defence so far for me.

And yet all i keep reading is 'bring in Amavi' 'drop Cissokho' etc. Why?

Why would any manager drop players that are performing well? I can't make any logic of it at all.

Is it a coincidence the two games we've fell apart defensively and conceded 3 goals in each Cissokho hasn't been playing?. Maybe it is, but i'm not so sure. Amavi is the glamour left back no doubt, and we all wish him well after that horrific injury. But surely he should earn his place back not just replace someone that's doing fine?

Watch Bristol's second goal and where it all came from. Shocking stuff.

Until Amavi can defend as part of a unit (a pretty standard thing for a defender in my eyes) then i see no reason at all for him to be in the first eleven.

Rant over.

I had taken to calling Cissokho, 'Ally Alves' such was his good performance against Rotherham from an attacking sense. Agree with what you say. I would like to see Jack play central furrher forward so Amavi could play left midfield a la Bale perhaps

[Villa in Denmark]

It's probably vastly unfair, and I've only seen the Wednesday and Derby games this season, but I always think Cissokho looks like a right back being asked to play left back, such is his apparent discomfort on the ball.

It was heartening to hear some people talking of improved performances, but he still gives me the heeby jeebies, every time he's on the ball in our half.

[Matt Collins]

On the wider picture, if we win our next two very winnable games at home (forest and Brentford) things will look a lot rosier

That's quite a big if, but it's what we need to aim for and we should be able to do it

[kippaxvilla2]

Well it's all settled down after the window, the owner has calmed down a bit on Twitter, we have 9 new signings, so at last we are starting to click.  Oh hang on.

[SoccerHQ]

We seem to be cursed in matches now as others have said, Forest had what 2 shots on goal and scored twice while we did our usual hitting post/bar/opposition keeper 100 times impression.

The second half was good though and surely we can beat Brentford with that.