The "what is wrong with this club" part 259 thread.

[four fornicholl]

I wonder whether the players and staff have fallen under the spell of "We are Aston Villa, Champions of Europe, Greatest team ever" rather than "We are Aston Villa, Champions of fuck all anymore and they need us to get out of this fucking mess"

[Villafirst]

The Lerner disaster still permeates within this club after so many years of inept performances. It'll take a couple of seasons to sort this out. I'm not sure if RDM is the right man. But we have to back him for the time being.

[myf]

Only 5 pages? A thoroughly depressing result for me. Was very optimistic after two recent signings and then saw 1 nil at half time.  totally shocked be ft result. A season defining result I feel. Made even worse by blues and Toon results.

I've just forgotten what it feels like to go into a game assuming we'll take points.

[Chinchilla Bathhouse]

Only 5 pages? A thoroughly depressing result for me. Was very optimistic after two recent signings and then saw 1 nil at half time.  totally shocked be ft result. A season defining result I feel. Made even worse by blues and Toon results.

I've just forgotten what it feels like to go into a game assuming we'll take points.

Season defining?! The fifth game, season defining?! Bloody hell, get a grip. It was a poor result but it's too soon for that sort of melodrama. There's a week left to bring in new players and 41 games to play.

And the Blose and Toon results don't make it worse, they change nothing. Don't let that bunch of buffoons worry you.

[LukeJames]

Who gives a flying fuck about the Blues result? If anything I'd say its a good result for us in the long run anyway.

[pauliewalnuts]

I struggle to think of anything that influences me less than what Small Heath do.

Who gives a fuck?

[Damo70]

Who gives a flying fuck about the Blues result? If anything I'd say its a good result for us in the long run anyway.

Given that I'm assuming most of us haven't abandoned all hope of promotion just yet and I think Norwich are likely to be stronger challengers than Small Heath I totally agree.

[PaulWinch again]

Today was bad and clearly work needs to be done, but let's not get carried away. We've signed a lot of new players, and will sign more, we've got a new owner and new management staff. To say today was 'season defining' is nonsense. We've played 5 games and we have 41 left. The owner is doing what he said when it comes to recruitment and the manager needs time to change the mentality of the squad.
Before today's game I felt we were doing the right things to get this club back on track and we've been trying to get the right people to do that. A bad result, no matter how frustrating it was, doesn't change that.

[pbavfckuwait]

We are a team that cannot carry anybody and at the moment we are carrying, Ayew, Baccuna and Westwood, all players capable to a degree when everything in the garden is rosy, but as soon as the going gets tough, one sulks and the other two disappear, RDM needs to stiffen up resolve and determination of the team and leave those 3 as options off the bench, not starters, very few teams will give us anything in this league, we will have to work for it and earn it.

[pbavfckuwait]

Also f..k the unwashed and the geordie wankers, we need to only worry about AVFC.

[brian green]

I agree completely about the need to not overreact after five games.  That is self evident common sense.  What I am bothered about is the constant theme of second half terror.   It is affecting new players who seem to have caught the habit from last season's players still in the team.  If the games we have lost or drawn had had other flaws it would be easier to believe that unfamiliarity among the players was to blame but the Groundhog Day nature of our capitulations suggests something more deep rooted that has to be addressed immediately.

[jwarry]

We are a team that cannot carry anybody and at the moment we are carrying, Ayew, Baccuna and Westwood, all players capable to a degree when everything in the garden is rosy, but as soon as the going gets tough, one sulks and the other two disappear, RDM needs to stiffen up resolve and determination of the team and leave those 3 as options off the bench, not starters, very few teams will give us anything in this league, we will have to work for it and earn it.

Nail on head

[mr underhill]

we're living under some kind of evil star; unbelievable, strange, but true.

[ozzjim]

I think there are 3 issues. 1 that the new ones and old need a bit of time to gel - which is fixed naturally in a few weeks.

2. That we are simply not getting the breaks. I disagree about us not looking good enough, for 45-60 minutes of each game we have looked the better team and not got the rub. Post, bars, missed chances galore, last season we looked beaten after 10 minutes, this year we look like we are capable but confidence is very, very fragile.

3. A very inexperienced keeper. Lets face it, there is a very good chance we would be on at least 9 points and all talking about a solid enough start if we had a reasonably solid keeper. Marshall from Cardiff, Patillimon, loaning someone out of favour like the Boro number 3 that kept 17 clean sheets last season. Just a safe pair behind the defence. It would calm some of the jitters.

I think we will make the play offs, because we are actually a decent team, with good players at this level, that will sort it out.

[Chris Smith]

The experienced players need to show some leadership to ensure that any notion that we are a soft touch gets nipped in the bud. It is pretty much a new team and as the manager and coaches have also changed I think any suggestion of a hangover from last season are a little tenuous and there is still a long way to go. To put it into perspective, when we have played 3 more games we will have the equivalent of a PL campaign still to go.

A major falling is not turning our periods of dominance into goals, a new striker will obviously be a step in the right direction and so far I think we have bought well this summer. So while I am as pissed off as the rest of you after yesterday I still think we have the basis of a good side for this league.