Sheffield Wednesday v Aston Villa Post Match Thread

[Phil from the upper holte]

Gardner is so slow. Didn't deserve to lose but didn't deserve to win either. I won't panic yet but must do better

[supertom]

One reason we played better second half too was getting the ball wider and getting crosses in. The fullbacks pushed on a bit more, Bacuna played wider and was probably creating the majority of our chances. If we had fullbacks who could deliver, we'd get more joy.
But we've got to start playing with more width from our midfield and attack. Not just counting on the fullbacks. That goes a long way in this division too.
Grealish on the left with Amavi overlapping would destroy this division.

[taylorsworkrate]

Only just seen the goal but bloody hell thats unlucky even by our standards.

Yeah, really unlucky that Cissokho needlessly played the ball back to Gollini. And really unlucky that Gollini made a right hash of the clearance 

[Villafirst]

Ref bottled the Hutchinson foul on Hutton which was early in the second-half. Those decisions are crucial. Ref was rubbish - Baker should've got a penalty for blatant shirt pulling on that corner. No help at all from shite officials.

[Deano's Mullet]

Gutted. 2nd half really promising but one mistake from otherwise excellent keeper costs us the game. Very frustrating.  Ayew class in parts and selfish prick in others. Gestede needs to put himself about more, did nothing all game up until his header on goal and set up for McComack. Midfield bit of worry, Westwood contributes absolutely nothing. Thought Bacuna wasn't too bad. Elphick looked solid.
First time in ages defeat has actually hurt but that's expectation I guess. Gutted but hopefully Saturday will be better.

[AV89]

Post match analysis on sky was weird compared to the Newcastle v Fulham game. Apparently we don't have players that can scrap etc. and some hyperbole about Di Matteo going to bed and hiding under the covers, our problems from last season continuing despite losing narrowly, creating several chances and should have had a penalty.

Newcastle's loss was simply glossed over as a bad day at the office for the inevitable champions 🤔. They may well be champions at the end of the season (and looking at their spend, squad and manager they probably should be) but it's surprising how they are seemingly getting different treatment already.

We played a lot better than Newcastle did in Friday I think.

[Stu]

Poor first half, much better second. Didn't deserve to lose but annoying to see us lose yet again to a late goal after a cock up. We were skanked though, how one of their players wasn't sent off is beyond me.

This man talks sense.

First half was rubbish - second half we blew them away. We should have had a penalty, Hutchinson should have been sent off, and their goal was from a shite clearance.

If Wednesday are one of the top three sides in this league, then I'm not too worried. We utterly dominated them in the second half.

[supertom]

Ref bottled the Hutchinson foul on Hutton which was early in the second-half. Those decisions are crucial. Ref was rubbish - Baker should've got a penalty for blatant shirt pulling on that corner. No help at all from shite officials.

Hutchinson could have gone several times.
Mind you Gardner had 4-5 fouls which would have been a nailed on yellow in the Prem. Officials are even shitter and more inconsistent at this level than the top flight.

[charleeco7]

Ball could have gone anywhere when Gollini kicks it then a bit of ping pong off Elphick falling straight to them.

[SoccerHQ]

"We'll smash 'em"

Still too many losers in this team. Poor game, poor quality and we desperately need another 4 signings...and some people who can actually play football in midfield.

Until then we're not serious about promotion.

[Stu]

Post match analysis on sky was weird compared to the Newcastle v Fulham game. Apparently we don't have players that can scrap etc. and some hyperbole about Di Matteo going to bed and hiding under the covers, our problems from last season continuing despite losing narrowly, creating several chances and should have had a penalty.

Newcastle's loss was simply glossed over as a bad day at the office for the inevitable champions 🤔. They may well be champions at the end of the season (and looking at their spend, squad and manager they probably should be) but it's surprising how they are seemingly getting different treatment already.

We played a lot better than Newcastle did in Friday I think.

Correct - Newcastle were very, very poor against Fulham. We looked way better than they did.

[Matt Collins]

Did I hear our fans singing "you're fucking shit" to Bacuna when he was trying to get the ball back for a corner?

You did

 He was on the verge of replying with one of his infamous grins and then thought better of it. Dont like him but singing that isnt going to help

Really? Our away fans are great but on the first day of the season that's really not helpful. That sort of atmosphere is one of the biggest threats to us

[taylorsworkrate]

Ball could have gone anywhere when Gollini kicks it then a bit of ping pong off Elphick falling straight to them.

We surely can't bemoan that though, when we've made two awful errors in the lead up to it. Don't deserve luck after doing that.

Where we were unlucky, was their left back not being sent off / giving away a penalty

[SoccerHQ]

Bacuna was one of our best players today I thought. Dunno if that is a good or bad thing!

Gestede was Gestede. Ayew was disappointing and McCormack should've buried that chance in second half. Rest were as you were.

[Steve67]

Maybe RDM needed to see some of these awful players in proper competitive action before judging them properly? Now he can see for himself just how ineffective some of them are and that they need replacing. I still don't think we have found our level and the only way we will avoid further heartache is to buy our way out of it. Jedinak and Kodjia/Hernandez will be a start. For me, I cannot get past the thought process that Bacuna, Westwood, Hutton, Baker, Gestede and Cissokho are not going to take us forward and will only help us bottom out to the level of top 10 championship side.  Why the hell we didn't start with our strongest team is beyond me, unless my first sentence rings true.