Sheffield Wednesday v Aston Villa Post Match Thread

[Risso]

The second half was much better, and is the first time in ages that we have actually dominated a game for a long period of the game.  We just need more quality in midfield, and to replace the absolutely hopeless Cissokho.  Even Bennett can't be as bad as him, he's a worse football player than Gestede, if such a thing is possible.

[Matt Collins]

Two very winnable home games next in the league

Need to set up properly and cut out the mistakes and I'm still optimistic we can win them both. I'm assuming we'll have a couple of players in soon

Wednesday only lost two games at home last season and we should have won that with our chances and given the shit reffing

[PeterWithesShin]

I'd definitely be starting Bennett at Luton, and hopefully have Amavi fit for Rotherham.

[Risso]

I'd definitely be starting Bennett at Luton, and hopefully have Amavi fit for Rotherham.

Same here.

[supertom]

Two very winnable home games next in the league

Need to set up properly and cut out the mistakes and I'm still optimistic we can win them both. I'm assuming we'll have a couple of players in soon

Wednesday only lost two games at home last season and we should have won that with our chances and given the shit reffing

For me the next two league games will tell us more than today, about whether we're heading in the right direction.

[pauliewalnuts]

The second half was much better, and is the first time in ages that we have actually dominated a game for a long period of the game.  We just need more quality in midfield, and to replace the absolutely hopeless Cissokho.  Even Bennett can't be as bad as him, he's a worse football player than Gestede, if such a thing is possible.

I agree entirely.

Worth pointing out also that Wednesday are meant to be one of the best teams in the division.

[Villatillidie25]

Another frustrating afternoon.
First half was awful but, even having said that, Wednesday created very little and actually created more on the break in the second half, which we will probably need to be aware of this season given that you would hope we will be on top in 9 out of 10 matches.

Overall, the full backs were dreadful, especially Cissokho. Elphick and Baker did OK with Elphick looking a real leader. I was quite impressed with Gollini, error aside.

The midfield is where the main issue lies. Westwood is passable at this level and did OK in the second half but Gardner was dreadful and far too slow. You certainly can't play both him and Westwood and, at the moment, Westwood is better (which says it all really).
Bacuna did OK in the second half and will probably prove useful in the squad - we can't get rid of everyone!

Gestede, though, is a complete and utter waste of space. Play ayew, RM, grealish, traore/a new signing up there and we would cause nearly every team problem.

Overall, probably what I expected and signs for optimism but a lot of hard work to do. Playoffs will be a decent season.

Need to buy a right back, centre mid, creative player with pace as a matter of urgency.
Sell kozak, Richards, lescott, Cissokho but I can't believe anyone would want them.

[Nelly]

For me the fact that we don't have decent midfielders was the cause of our issues today. Cissokho shouldn't have played Gollini into trouble but he had no other options on! We were bossed in the first half until their changes and then grew into it but had we some stronger players in midfield we could bring our forwards into it more.

Ayew and Elphick were our standouts while Gardner was very disappointing for me.

Big credit to Sheffield Wednesday who were excellent, as were their fans. That Foristieri was brilliant.

[Whiney MacWhineface]

Considering the barely healed scar tissue, and the fact that wasn't our best side (albeit probably our fittest), that wasn't too bad. Yes Cissokho's attacking is painful, yes Gardner is slower than me, and yes it was a piainful error to change need the goal, but so many comments about Bacuna and Westwood et al. seem to be default positions from last year.

Would have helped if the Ref had sent Hutchinson off as he should have mind

Slot Amalvi, Tshibola in and we will look better.

[phantom limb]

Post match analysis on sky was weird compared to the Newcastle v Fulham game. Apparently we don't have players that can scrap etc. and some hyperbole about Di Matteo going to bed and hiding under the covers, our problems from last season continuing despite losing narrowly, creating several chances and should have had a penalty.

Newcastle's loss was simply glossed over as a bad day at the office for the inevitable champions 🤔. They may well be champions at the end of the season (and looking at their spend, squad and manager they probably should be) but it's surprising how they are seemingly getting different treatment already.

[Matt Collins]

Another frustrating afternoon.
First half was awful but, even having said that, Wednesday created very little and actually created more on the break in the second half, which we will probably need to be aware of this season given that you would hope we will be on top in 9 out of 10 matches.

Overall, the full backs were dreadful, especially Cissokho. Elphick and Baker did OK with Elphick looking a real leader. I was quite impressed with Gollini, error aside.

The midfield is where the main issue lies. Westwood is passable at this level and did OK in the second half but Gardner was dreadful and far too slow. You certainly can't play both him and Westwood and, at the moment, Westwood is better (which says it all really).
Bacuna did OK in the second half and will probably prove useful in the squad - we can't get rid of everyone!

Gestede, though, is a complete and utter waste of space. Play ayew, RM, grealish, traore/a new signing up there and we would cause nearly every team problem.

Overall, probably what I expected and signs for optimism but a lot of hard work to do. Playoffs will be a decent season.

Need to buy a right back, centre mid, creative player with pace as a matter of urgency.
Sell kozak, Richards, lescott, Cissokho but I can't believe anyone would want them.

Agree with every word of that

Though I do think there's a risk the pressure at VP could get onto the players if we're not immediately on it v Rotherham

Could do without the Luton game as that looks like a potential embarrassment to me

[Villafirst]

Terrible performance .......... Back four reasonable ...... Midfield ....was there one? ....Attack ....see midfield

Gardner proved what I fear we knew anyway .....
Amarvi in next week
Need more bite in midfield
Striker still an urgent need

Same Monday morning as normal

No, poor in first half but dominated second half. 0-0 would've been about right on the balance of play. Stupid error self-inflicted.

[Rudy65]

Did I hear our fans singing "you're fucking shit" to Bacuna when he was trying to get the ball back for a corner?

You did

 He was on the verge of replying with one of his infamous grins and then thought better of it. Dont like him but singing that isnt going to help

[charleeco7]

Only just seen the goal but bloody hell thats unlucky even by our standards.

[clash city rocker]

It,s not the hope that kills you but the fuck ups....why oh why do we always gift the opposition a goal...charity Villa should be our name..the opposition don't need to create chances as they know we will come bearing gifts...how do we stop the mistakes....how ?