Tony's Tweets

[Drummond]

Surely the humiliations since 2010 look worse than 1987 because of the amplification that is mass media coverage and social meeeeeja.

Good point. Nobody really cared when we went down in 1987 except our 15,000 or so regulars. The world knew about it last year.

So all those unwanted club records smashed were just the media making them up?

Does anyone else really give a shit or remember how many games we lose or the scores?

[Clampy]

Yes! I've never said anything different. Doesn't make me believe he was as bad as Lerner was though.

You've never mentioned it before, but it's a start. Now - finishing below Halifax in the league. Good, or bad?

Very bad, Dave, but never have we been as humiliated as we've been since 2010. We've become a laughing stock thanks to old Randy.

And we were probably a laughing stock in 1987 too.

Nah. No matter how much you try and convince yourself otherwise 1987 was nothing, absolutely nothing compared to the humiliations of 2010 onwards.
You know deep down I'm sure you don't even believe that yourself. You're just trying to save face because you got it so so wrong so many times regarding our decline under Lerner.

What exactly did i get wrong?

Just about everything! You backed the club on practically every bit of bullshit they threw at us for years from "young and hungry" to the moneyball shit. The only time you saw anything coming was when it hit you right between the eyes.
Talk about not seeing the wood for the trees!

No, no i didn't. I just didn't come on here and whinge about it every day. Like i've always said, i'll say what i think, not what you think i should.

[saunders_heroes]

Surely the humiliations since 2010 look worse than 1987 because of the amplification that is mass media coverage and social meeeeeja.

Good point. Nobody really cared when we went down in 1987 except our 15,000 or so regulars. The world knew about it last year.

So all those unwanted club records smashed were just the media making them up?

From the best team in European football to relegation fodder inside 4 years was just a blip?

We bounced straight back and stayed there nearly 30 years until Randy weaved his magic.

[PeterWithesShin]

You come across there like you're enjoying gloating and being right that we're so shit while others remained more optimistic. Which doesn't come across well.

That's absolute bollocks. I was as pissed off as anyone, and still pissed off seeing us festering in the Championship. Don't try and make out I'm enjoying Villa in the lower leagues. That's a snide thing to say and you know it.

No it isn't as it's how it comes across. Notice I said "it comes across as" not that you were. But if you don't want constructive criticism i'll leave you to make yourself potentially look bad in future rather than thinking about rewording things so as things aren't misconstrued.

[Clampy]

Surely the humiliations since 2010 look worse than 1987 because of the amplification that is mass media coverage and social meeeeeja.

Good point. Nobody really cared when we went down in 1987 except our 15,000 or so regulars. The world knew about it last year.

So all those unwanted club records smashed were just the media making them up?

From the best team in European football to relegation fodder inside 4 years was just a blip?

We bounced straight back and stayed there nearly 30 years until Randy weaved his magic.

Ok, from 1984 onwards. It's kind of like 2010 onwards.

[PeterWithesShin]

Surely the humiliations since 2010 look worse than 1987 because of the amplification that is mass media coverage and social meeeeeja.

Good point. Nobody really cared when we went down in 1987 except our 15,000 or so regulars. The world knew about it last year.

So all those unwanted club records smashed were just the media making them up?

Does anyone else really give a shit or remember how many games we lose or the scores?

Nope, apart from the odd shocker of a result which will always be remembered. Same as no one really remember that spell under BFR when we couldn't score for months as an example.

[dave.woodhall]

Yes, a blip. It followed a four year decline and only ended when we had the biggest stroke of luck any club could have wished for, but it was only a blip.  Clearly being in division three, finishing below Halifax and losing to Torquay & Southend in the FA Cup first round is not as humiliating as relegation from the Premier League. Silly me for thinking otherwise. 

[saunders_heroes]

Yes! I've never said anything different. Doesn't make me believe he was as bad as Lerner was though.

You've never mentioned it before, but it's a start. Now - finishing below Halifax in the league. Good, or bad?

Very bad, Dave, but never have we been as humiliated as we've been since 2010. We've become a laughing stock thanks to old Randy.

And we were probably a laughing stock in 1987 too.

Nah. No matter how much you try and convince yourself otherwise 1987 was nothing, absolutely nothing compared to the humiliations of 2010 onwards.
You know deep down I'm sure you don't even believe that yourself. You're just trying to save face because you got it so so wrong so many times regarding our decline under Lerner.

What exactly did i get wrong?

Just about everything! You backed the club on practically every bit of bullshit they threw at us for years from "young and hungry" to the moneyball shit. The only time you saw anything coming was when it hit you right between the eyes.
Talk about not seeing the wood for the trees!

No, no i didn't. I just didn't come on here and whinge about it every day. Like i've always said, i'll say what i think, not what you think i should.

Another thing you used to do was prowl the site looking for what you perceived as negative posts and ridicule the poster and imply they were miserys or negative for the sake of it. Meanwhile the club was going to rack and ruin and you could never see it.
Lets face it, Clampy, you've got most things wrong about the Villa.

[saunders_heroes]

Surely the humiliations since 2010 look worse than 1987 because of the amplification that is mass media coverage and social meeeeeja.

Good point. Nobody really cared when we went down in 1987 except our 15,000 or so regulars. The world knew about it last year.

So all those unwanted club records smashed were just the media making them up?

Does anyone else really give a shit or remember how many games we lose or the scores?

Nope, apart from the odd shocker of a result which will always be remembered. Same as no one really remember that spell under BFR when we couldn't score for months as an example.

In a way you're right. Shit results are often forgotten in the grand scheme of things, but boy have we had more than our fair share of humiliations since 2010.

[dave.woodhall]

ed to do was prowl the site looking for what you perceived as negative posts and ridicule the poster and imply they were miserys or negative for the sake of it. Meanwhile the club was going to rack and ruin and you could never see it.
Lets face it, Clampy, you've got most things wrong about the Villa.

Hold it right there. Defend Doug Ellis all you like, but using it as a way to start on another poster isn't going to happen. 

[saunders_heroes]

Yes, a blip. It followed a four year decline and only ended when we had the biggest stroke of luck any club could have wished for, but it was only a blip.  Clearly being in division three, finishing below Halifax and losing to Torquay & Southend in the FA Cup first round is not as humiliating as relegation from the Premier League. Silly me for thinking otherwise. 

And breaking every unwanted club record on the way.

[saunders_heroes]

ed to do was prowl the site looking for what you perceived as negative posts and ridicule the poster and imply they were miserys or negative for the sake of it. Meanwhile the club was going to rack and ruin and you could never see it.
Lets face it, Clampy, you've got most things wrong about the Villa.

Hold it right there. Defend Doug Ellis all you like, but using it as a way to start on another poster isn't going to happen. 

Yes you're right. Sorry Clampy it was a bit spiteful.

[Clampy]

Yes! I've never said anything different. Doesn't make me believe he was as bad as Lerner was though.

You've never mentioned it before, but it's a start. Now - finishing below Halifax in the league. Good, or bad?

Very bad, Dave, but never have we been as humiliated as we've been since 2010. We've become a laughing stock thanks to old Randy.

And we were probably a laughing stock in 1987 too.

Nah. No matter how much you try and convince yourself otherwise 1987 was nothing, absolutely nothing compared to the humiliations of 2010 onwards.
You know deep down I'm sure you don't even believe that yourself. You're just trying to save face because you got it so so wrong so many times regarding our decline under Lerner.

What exactly did i get wrong?

Just about everything! You backed the club on practically every bit of bullshit they threw at us for years from "young and hungry" to the moneyball shit. The only time you saw anything coming was when it hit you right between the eyes.
Talk about not seeing the wood for the trees!

No, no i didn't. I just didn't come on here and whinge about it every day. Like i've always said, i'll say what i think, not what you think i should.

Another thing you used to do was prowl the site looking for what you perceived as negative posts and ridicule the poster and imply they were miserys or negative for the sake of it.

Prowl the site? Oh dear, is that the best thing you cam come up with in an argument about Doug Ellis? Desperate stuff, absolutley desperate.

[dave.woodhall]

Yes, a blip. It followed a four year decline and only ended when we had the biggest stroke of luck any club could have wished for, but it was only a blip.  Clearly being in division three, finishing below Halifax and losing to Torquay & Southend in the FA Cup first round is not as humiliating as relegation from the Premier League. Silly me for thinking otherwise. 

And breaking every unwanted club record on the way.

Like worst-ever league finish you mean? Or quickest relegation after winning the European Cup? Or the only Villa chairman to preside over not one but two relegations?

[Clampy]

ed to do was prowl the site looking for what you perceived as negative posts and ridicule the poster and imply they were miserys or negative for the sake of it. Meanwhile the club was going to rack and ruin and you could never see it.
Lets face it, Clampy, you've got most things wrong about the Villa.

Hold it right there. Defend Doug Ellis all you like, but using it as a way to start on another poster isn't going to happen. 

Yes you're right. Sorry Clampy it was a bit spiteful.

No problem.