Tony's Tweets

[saunders_heroes]

It's a job for a player. What was Doug "Villa in the blood" Ellis' excuse while he was doing the tour of the shit and small?

I don't give a monkeys fuck, we were a far more professionally run club under Deadly than anything that has followed. True?

Well said, but there's some who'll forever spit venom at anything Ellis related but go easy on the man who quite frankly turned Villa into a genuine laughing stock then ran away.

Oh turn it in. At Doncaster were you getting twatted by them? At Highbury being embarrassed were you singing "we're just an honest bunch of lads". Praying over whether we could sign Eric Bakke long term? Or have you just forgot?
 Everything about the final days of Ellis smacked of the Lambert times.

The only thing that is incredible is the absence of any objectivity. Lerner was a moron who put his hand in his pocket. Ellis was a moron who put his hand in ours.

Neither were good for the club. One will likely go to his grave regretting that. The other will live forever.

Oh please, you're being laughable! Trying to compare the last days of an ageing Ellis era to what happened under the biggest moron ever to run a football club is quite desperate. Lerner gave us one of the worst teams ever seen in the top division of English football and humiliated this club left right and centre, where as Ellis didn't. I think deep down your defence of Lerner comes from the fact that it took you years to realise you got it totally wrong about the man.
How many years did you defend him before you realised how wrong you were, was it the very last season, or the one before? I can't quite remember.

[Ads]

Definitely. Indemnity costs too.

A personal costs order too. Then a lien on his house when he doesn't cough up in 21 days.

[Richard E]

Am I allowed to think Ellis and Lerner were both sodding useless? It's not either/or.

[four fornicholl]

Crikey. You're so blinkered by your Lerner hatred that you're re-writing history.

The man who dismantled the best side in Europe out of spite, took us down and then was so corner shop the league slowly passed us by.

Our success was down to Taylor, Atikinson and Little, all of whom would have had a better opportunity to take us further had it not been for Ellis.

I said Stride knew a huge amount and implied we'd have benefitted hugely from him with Lerner's money. I've not said what you've blimied at all. So put your straw man away.

Explain how you think paragraph two is true? And 1 and 3 for that matter.

I was talking to SH specifically but you've dumbfounded me there, unless you're asking as if alien to all that has occurred.

Res ipsa loquitur is my pleadings. I'd get summary judgment too. What say ye Richard?

Paragraph 2, Doug recruitments,
Paragraph 1 , spite, I doubt it very much.
Paragraph 3 , pass.

[saunders_heroes]

Am I allowed to think Ellis and Lerner were both sodding useless? It's not either/or.

Of course you are. You can't fool us into believing that Ellis turned us into a laughing stock and destroyed our PL infrastructure though, because that was the other prat.

[Ads]

Who is saying that?

[Clampy]

It's a job for a player. What was Doug "Villa in the blood" Ellis' excuse while he was doing the tour of the shit and small?

I don't give a monkeys fuck, we were a far more professionally run club under Deadly than anything that has followed. True?

Well said, but there's some who'll forever spit venom at anything Ellis related but go easy on the man who quite frankly turned Villa into a genuine laughing stock then ran away.

Why is it ok to 'spit venom' at Lerner but not at Doug? Hardly fair really. I'm almost beginning to think Doug never got us relegated.

[Sexual Ealing]

Am I allowed to think Ellis and Lerner were both sodding useless? It's not either/or.

I'm amazed at how long it's taken for somebody to post this!

[saunders_heroes]

It's a job for a player. What was Doug "Villa in the blood" Ellis' excuse while he was doing the tour of the shit and small?

I don't give a monkeys fuck, we were a far more professionally run club under Deadly than anything that has followed. True?

Well said, but there's some who'll forever spit venom at anything Ellis related but go easy on the man who quite frankly turned Villa into a genuine laughing stock then ran away.

Why is it ok to 'spit venom' at Lerner but not at Doug? Hardly fair really. I'm almost beginning to think Doug never got us relegated.

You can do what you like but one thing you won't be able to do is to try and compare what Lerner did to this club to what Ellis did. We were relegated under Ellis but bounced straight back. He certainly didn't turn this club into a national laughing stock and smash every unwanted record in the meantime. Unless he did and I missed it?

[four fornicholl]

It's a job for a player. What was Doug "Villa in the blood" Ellis' excuse while he was doing the tour of the shit and small?

I don't give a monkeys fuck, we were a far more professionally run club under Deadly than anything that has followed. True?

Well said, but there's some who'll forever spit venom at anything Ellis related but go easy on the man who quite frankly turned Villa into a genuine laughing stock then ran away.

Why is it ok to 'spit venom' at Lerner but not at Doug? Hardly fair really. I'm almost beginning to think Doug never got us relegated.

That was just a blip with a shit manager.

[Clampy]

It's a job for a player. What was Doug "Villa in the blood" Ellis' excuse while he was doing the tour of the shit and small?

I don't give a monkeys fuck, we were a far more professionally run club under Deadly than anything that has followed. True?

Well said, but there's some who'll forever spit venom at anything Ellis related but go easy on the man who quite frankly turned Villa into a genuine laughing stock then ran away.

Why is it ok to 'spit venom' at Lerner but not at Doug? Hardly fair really. I'm almost beginning to think Doug never got us relegated.

That was just a blip with a shit manager.

Which shit manager out of the two do you mean?

[Clampy]

Like Richard said, it's possible to dislike both.

[saunders_heroes]

It's a job for a player. What was Doug "Villa in the blood" Ellis' excuse while he was doing the tour of the shit and small?

I don't give a monkeys fuck, we were a far more professionally run club under Deadly than anything that has followed. True?

Well said, but there's some who'll forever spit venom at anything Ellis related but go easy on the man who quite frankly turned Villa into a genuine laughing stock then ran away.

Why is it ok to 'spit venom' at Lerner but not at Doug? Hardly fair really. I'm almost beginning to think Doug never got us relegated.

That was just a blip with a shit manager.

It's not like we were perennial relegation strugglers under Ellis, something you can't say about Lerner. In fact for most of the time when we had a bad season we'd bounce back and follow it up with a decent one. With Lerner it was abject misery from 2010 onwards. Humiliating stuff.

[four fornicholl]

It's a job for a player. What was Doug "Villa in the blood" Ellis' excuse while he was doing the tour of the shit and small?

I don't give a monkeys fuck, we were a far more professionally run club under Deadly than anything that has followed. True?

Well said, but there's some who'll forever spit venom at anything Ellis related but go easy on the man who quite frankly turned Villa into a genuine laughing stock then ran away.

Why is it ok to 'spit venom' at Lerner but not at Doug? Hardly fair really. I'm almost beginning to think Doug never got us relegated.

That was just a blip with a shit manager.

Which shit manager out of the two do you mean?

You choose,one was far worse than the other.

[Clampy]

It's a job for a player. What was Doug "Villa in the blood" Ellis' excuse while he was doing the tour of the shit and small?

I don't give a monkeys fuck, we were a far more professionally run club under Deadly than anything that has followed. True?

Well said, but there's some who'll forever spit venom at anything Ellis related but go easy on the man who quite frankly turned Villa into a genuine laughing stock then ran away.

Why is it ok to 'spit venom' at Lerner but not at Doug? Hardly fair really. I'm almost beginning to think Doug never got us relegated.

That was just a blip with a shit manager.

Which shit manager out of the two do you mean?

You choose,one was far worse than the other.

No, you choose. You said 'shit manager'.