Adama Traoré - GONE

[villabear]

Hopefully we can find a buyer before the window shuts. He hasn't played enough to be missed.

I think he'll end up moving about and end up cash rich but nothing to show for it, just like he is on the pitch.

Will be playing in Quatar or China in a couple of years or sooner no doubt.

I was at Palace for his debut and came away thinking he'd got it all. He hasn't.

[brian green]

I have seen in the flesh every minute he played for us.  He was potentially one of the most exciting players I have ever seen in a Villa shirt, certainly the quickest.  Not to have made the most of him is unforgivable on the part of the managers and coaches responsible for bringing him on.  That is what I think, you think what you think about him.  The loss of such potential is entirely consistent with the managerial incompetence of the Lerner era.

[Havencheese]

Undoubtably there is some great talent there. I watched a youtube compilation of some of his runs, passing and the odd goal in the reserves. Most of the runs amounted to nothing but what's noticeable is how excited the kids comments are. Traoré tends towards those flashy types of moments they drool over through playing too much FIFA or PES. The end result is a talented yet very incomplete player who is yet to fit into any system Sherwood, Garde offered (although the words 'Sherwood' and 'system' in the same sentence are dubious) and doesn't look like doing so under Di Matteo. Another young player probably getting ahead of himself in terms of where he's at in his career.

In other words, all fart and no shit.

All fart and no shit implies no end product, but he managed a dozen or so assists over a full season in the Spanish second division, which I doubt is much worse than the Championship, and I'm sure he would've created plenty more chances which didn't get converted.

Of course he'll look better on the Youtube than in an actual match, but that's pretty much the case of any winger who's ever lived.

Youtube clips - just add crap Ibiza. I take them with a grain of salt, Traoré's one however replicated virtually everything I'd seen him do previously in a Villa shirt coming off the bench last season - no end product. I'll give him some grace for injuries but still...

Thankfully our Jack seems to have realised that after a half season in the Prem and a blinder in a Semi Final, he's got to work even harder to back it up. Traoré has one good season at this level but by all reports still yet to come to that realisation.

[VILLA MOLE]

I just hope that he goes very quickly, and we are not left with him for the remainder of the season sulking and moaning

Read also that Hutton and Richards have told RDM that they want away (if true that is the best news I have read in a long time)


yes peas

[mr underhill]

They both need to go but would leave us worryingly short on squad strength so a busy few days ahead. As for Adama the man of glass comes from a shite Barca second string and bombs. Terrible signing on a Balabanesque level.

[Dante Lavelli]

I have seen in the flesh every minute he played for us.  He was potentially one of the most exciting players I have ever seen in a Villa shirt, certainly the quickest.  Not to have made the most of him is unforgivable on the part of the managers and coaches responsible for bringing him on.  That is what I think, you think what you think about him.  The loss of such potential is entirely consistent with the managerial incompetence of the Lerner era.

Agree Brian.  I too went to Palace and his cameo was something else, he looked the real deal.  They just could not handle him, putting two, even three players on him.  From that, to hardly playing is a mystery and suspect that his attitude must play a part.

[brian green]

Mr U, I will have a friendly wager with you, if Traore is not in the team or on the bench of a Champions League club in the next two years, I will buy you and your wife lunch in The Sun in Alnemouth.

[PeterWithe]

They both need to go but would leave us worryingly short on squad strength so a busy few days ahead. As for Adama the man of glass comes from a shite Barca second string and bombs. Terrible signing on a Balabanesque level.

Yes, Hutton leaving would see us needing a right back but I cant think of a situation where I'd be happy to see Richards play again.

[brian green]

Dante, Malandro may have touched on evidence of it but the deep seated problem with him is probably not football related.  The word going the rounds that came to me via a Remi Garde contact was that he keeps bad company and refuses to distance himself from them.

[passitsideways]

Undoubtably there is some great talent there. I watched a youtube compilation of some of his runs, passing and the odd goal in the reserves. Most of the runs amounted to nothing but what's noticeable is how excited the kids comments are. Traoré tends towards those flashy types of moments they drool over through playing too much FIFA or PES. The end result is a talented yet very incomplete player who is yet to fit into any system Sherwood, Garde offered (although the words 'Sherwood' and 'system' in the same sentence are dubious) and doesn't look like doing so under Di Matteo. Another young player probably getting ahead of himself in terms of where he's at in his career.

In other words, all fart and no shit.

All fart and no shit implies no end product, but he managed a dozen or so assists over a full season in the Spanish second division, which I doubt is much worse than the Championship, and I'm sure he would've created plenty more chances which didn't get converted.

Of course he'll look better on the Youtube than in an actual match, but that's pretty much the case of any winger who's ever lived.

Youtube clips - just add crap Ibiza. I take them with a grain of salt, Traoré's one however replicated virtually everything I'd seen him do previously in a Villa shirt coming off the bench last season - no end product. I'll give him some grace for injuries but still...

Thankfully our Jack seems to have realised that after a half season in the Prem and a blinder in a Semi Final, he's got to work even harder to back it up. Traoré has one good season at this level but by all reports still yet to come to that realisation.

Please don't be obtuse. The point I'm making is that an assist is not a Youtube clip, but it's an objective measure of end product, when you accused him of not having any. 14 assists over a season, which is the number I've gotten after a quick Google search, even in the Spanish second division, which is probably still quite decent given how good they are at football generally in Spain these days, is a very decent figure. Who was the last player we had to reach that many - Ashley Young, perhaps?

[PaulTheVillan]

I'm glad he's off. A total waste of time and money.

[Dave]

Why now? He came on at the weekend suggesting both club and player were finally on the same page and ready for him to get a chance to flourish.

Whats the point in having contracts with players if they can decide that they no longer want to stay, but we can't terminate contracts of players that we no longer want here? Really boils my piss.

Because they can decide that they don't want to stay, but that doesn't mean they just up and leave unless we're ok with it.

If it were, Benteke would have gone to Spurs after one season with us.

[mr underhill]

Brian I know we have differing opinions on Adama but I didn't realise you possessed precognitive powers as I am actually on hols this week and staying in Alnmouth!

[aj2k77]

I don't know what people see in him, he has raw pace and strength but looks totally disinterested in playing football as a team game. 

[Malandro]

I have seen in the flesh every minute he played for us.  He was potentially one of the most exciting players I have ever seen in a Villa shirt, certainly the quickest.  Not to have made the most of him is unforgivable on the part of the managers and coaches responsible for bringing him on.  That is what I think, you think what you think about him.  The loss of such potential is entirely consistent with the managerial incompetence of the Lerner era.

All true Brian but as he wants to leave - I'm going to forget him.